##VIDEO ID:Y5Nqy9KeWHg## can I go home now we need you to keep us on on our toast Charlie that's what Jim querk keeps telling me God bless him I tell you recording in progress you go good evening welcome to the November 4th Yarmouth Board of Health meeting which I am now calling open uh this is a virtual meeting as has been usual since the pandemic and the public can access this by website instructions and zoom I would like to start this meeting because we are on the eve of a very very important election with the Pledge of Allegiance I pledge allegiance to the flag the United States of America and to the Republic for it stands one nation God indivisible with liberty justice for all thank you going to start with attendance Charlie here Larry here Eric presid and I'm meric Craig I'm the vice chair and I'm sitting in for Hill bosy this evening the first item on the agenda is public comment the open meeting law discour merges public bodies from discussing topics not listed on the agenda so the public may come forth with comments but we are not responding to them at this time is there any anyone in the public wishes to make a public comment anyone outside dialing in no doesn't look it thank you the second agenda item is the current hours of operation for the Yarmouth disposable disposal and recycling area and looks like this is kind of a housekeeping issue it is um assistant assistant Deputy assistant uh deputy director uh Roby White House is here yes good evening yes thank you very much Jay I'm the assist assistant Public Works director for the town of Yarmouth and you're absolutely right this is a housekeeping matter uh several years ago in approximately the time frame of 2004 uh then superintendent Rob angel came before the board of Selectmen and he's not sure if he met with the Board of Health and requested that the hours of operation be changed from 7:30 to 3:30 7 days a week uh there were no questions asked at that time and he assures me that there was documentation however in that time frame there's been a couple of uh changes in managers and we just didn't needed to have that documentation to approve those time change uh so those are the current hours 7:30 to 3:30 7 days a week as far as I know there's not been any issues my request this evening is that you authorize your director of Health to sign a document stating that you agree to those hours and that will be to distributed to the Department of Environmental Protection along with the authorization to operate permit request okay thank you any comments from staff how about the board any questions or comments for Roby I'll entertain a motion I make a motion that we accept the uh proposed uh schedule as written second second thank you Charlie thank you Larry all right um then we have a motion on the table did you get that Mo okay all right all in favor I I I okay it has carried you're all set do you author also authorize Jay to sign a document does that all come yes yes is that all right did we amend it yes yes should have included that okay terrific thanks thank you very much get yeah thanks next on the agenda is Stop and Shop status of the tobacco permit what's happening with that now chairman thank you the uh Stopman shop made a corporate decision uh some months ago and I think I made you aware that they were no longer selling tobacco products Long Pond because there's a pharmacy they weren't selling but this is this would apply to the station AB location um as these permits a calendar as you know December 31st they will expire do anticipate that um they will not be they will not be renewing their license and as you have a cap this will now go from the existing 28 permits down to 27 I did want to make the board also aware that uh applications have already gone out Phil has already put the applications out and um in in typical Phil fashion he's on top of it and six have already come back so um the tobacco applications have been distributed and they're starting to come back but I'll give you a confirmation later uh well actually December you know at the end of December beginning of January to confirm in fact that the the upper the ceiling the cap that you've put in has now been reduced down to 27 permits we fully anticipate that I just want to make you the board aware that that will be a downward adjustment in tobacco permits for the town great okay okay Jay so stop and chub has two stores in Yarmouth so is that one permit for the both stores so Larry the The Long Pond location because it has a pharmacy they're not allowed to sell I see tobacco products this would only apply they only have a permit at their Station app location so it only goes down by one okay okay thank you fourth item agenda is seasonal influenza slco Clinic update and I'm guessing that's Barry yes ma'am thank you very much uh as last Tuesday we held our annual Town um flu and Co shot clinic we had 26 shots covid shots given out 38 high does flu shots and seven regular flu shots um it was a very nice very smooth um process and we'll I pretty sure we're going to continue it um the coming up years we did get with the senior center and found out why there's a low turnout and it's the demographics that we're uh targeting uh QR codes and stuff like that are kind of hard for them to use so we're going to we'll probably still have the QR codes but we're going to have a different um registration Outlet to make it even easier and seamless so the and the senior center is more than happy to help us um put that together for him to help with take over the registration which is very nice um and speaking of Co we just Within in two hours received uh 12 cases of free Co kits so we will have those at all the polling centers tomorrow um some we go them to the churches we have a couple cases upstairs we have a couple cases here in our office too to give out so and this one these kids instead of having just two tests per kit there are five wow five kids per or five tests per kit so families only need to take one or so okay great that's good how are the expiration dates on them did you notice I honestly since we just got them um I'm pretty we just got them in so there I think they the last ones were good through like the expiration date was like late March so these should be around the same so and the ones that I received in the mail um you hit the QR code and it gave a very long list of test kits and it showed the revised expiration date and mine were like April 25 so I think there's none out there that are not valid that's good as long as you're on that list or coming from like the health that's on the QR code on the on the box good to know yeah uh number five stuff a cruiser Charlie's favorite yes Barry you're going to tell us about that yes ma'am thank you very much um the Yarmouth food pantry and the Yarmouth Police Department dep are sponsoring their annual stuffer Cruiser November 9th uh 10:00 a.m. to 2 p.m. I wasn't for sure I thought it was going to be just at the pantry but great news it's going to be at they're going to be at both stop shop locations Shaws and Peterson's so there's going to be four different locations the public can donate uh Goods to they're looking for simple stuff peanut butter and jelly any canned food items whether that's SpaghettiOs or canned veget vegetables canned Meats anything like that um any food items juice boxes pastas cereals oatmeals and one thing important is uh feminine products they they take those feminine products they they accept those two for the for people that don't have access to those um and as always money is always accepted to help them purchase stuff for that they don't have so it's a great cause I think last year they got over 5,000 items um just in that short period of time so it's swing by donate people it's it's a great thing to help the local community the food pantry is all run by volunteers as we know they they've been in here they do wonderful things for the for the community so thank you thank you number six um green burial discussion policy SL regulations this is something we have been talking about for some time I'm glad Mr mcer isn't here this evening because I just don't think we've gotten very far on this well he said he couldn't make it he could this meeting at the last meeting he said he wouldn't be a okay good good okay so Jay kind of fill us in where we are add on this please sure thank you madam chairman um this has gone on now for I think the third meeting now an applicant has come forward first time that I have seen this and I think first time for the board to see this so we're this is uncharted waters bre ground we really are and and and as a result we have to whether we see this uh again or not we have to have a policy in place there needs to be an application has to be thoughtful comprehensive um and and and well vetted and we we've been in that we we're doing that process now working with the we're State dph uh Town Council another player and uh in in this part is our uh water superintendent and from DPW is there is they responsible for the water supply integrity and the um the the of yarmus water supply they have weighed in on this so we're really trying to gather information and tonight in your package what you have is a list of uh about 13 events of 13 conditions that I think need consideration that may not be an exhaustive list you may have more um and I'm just going to because it doesn't show up for the community to see but if if if you don't mind I'm just going to go to some of the considerations that the board is going to have to decide on we would Barry and I will very much give you recommendations I with the chair being absent tonight I I do think this is a take-home this is homework for the board to consider um but will green burials and home burials be allowed in zone two is it approval or sign off from DPW required is a buffer zone required from the boundary zone or the wetlands is there a minimum property size required for home burials what is the allowable location on the plot itself front side back of the dwelling individual plot or family plot are property line setbacks required required distance from the dwelling from a septic system garage shed or pool Define the area of non-disturbance what is the size going to be who's responsible for the ongoing maintenance what type of plot markers are allowed size material is it a butter notification required how certified how's that going to be handled who is responsible for witnessing the burial after I sent this on to the board I said what one I neglected on and Barry and I have talked about this for some time is the cause of death needs to be considered what are the conditions of of the individual um and what was the cause of death that will need I think the board will have to also be part of that now I'm not dropping this on your desk by any means but I think we will gu will help guide to recommend although we Barry and I don't sit on the board we'll help we want to give you some guidance on this we think these are the things that need to be considered for to have a thoughtful and comprehensive policy put in place Town Council says they will also guide and help craft this policy an application would then be put in place um and then move forward I'm not without any Prejudice do we know if M Ross mcg's uh application is going to be approved but we're gain we're gathering information for the board to make an informed decision these are some of the things that I I think that need to be considered and there may be more uh but again tonight tonight without go Madam chair your decision but these are the things that we think that need to be considered and we will certainly if if the board ask for recommendations we will ask we have we have contacted most of the communities on the cape if they allow and many of them don't but what what um what are some of the qualific regulations local regulations chapter 111 section 31 allows the board to make its own regulations aside from State dph uh State yeah dph and D the local board can have a policy like you do with uh well body piercing uh tobacco you have local regulations there is nothing in place right now so we want to get that in make sure that that's in place whether whether we deal with the 114 Mayflower or or the next uh property or or never again but there should be a policy in place as the board has said they want to have a compreh have this studied right right right I'd like to have a policy and a checklist that would make it easy for anyone who is interested in applying for a a green burial to be able to see exactly what we're going to require what the policy is and what the requirements are and help us to see that have all been met um Eric just sent out to the um board a a uh reply from DP because he had been in contact with them and this was a pretty comprehensive reply even mentioned that the town can um Can legislate that there will be no green burials in the town so you mentioned that there are some towns that don't allow it on the cape yeah there there well actually our Municipal Town Cemetery does not allow that no towns there are some towns that have not allowed green that have not allowed green burials yeah I'm just curious which ones have done I'd have to go back into the list on some of them but clearly orene um no howich has uh has several that's been these are larger size I haven't really seen small Lots right no I'm talking about towns that prohibiting them prohibit I can get you a list of that yeah yeah just curious about that um would you like to just talk a little bit about that answer that you got sure I I mean I I opened this up on my way here so I I didn't have a chance to read it too thoroughly but um it was a little bit confusing because it sounded the gist of it was that the the D does not generally involve itself with the home burial process which is a bit contradictory from what we heard last week last meeting yeah um so they seem to be forwarding a lot of the same information that we've already seen um and it it sounds to me like they're really leaving it up to local boards to make the decision that was a gist of what I seem and exactly from whom was this this was from uh Aaron raposo and Ian Jarvis um at the Department of Environmental Protection Aaron reposo is an environmental engineer from the water pollution control division for the cap and Islands okay yeah and so and I apologize that that came through this afternoon so I I think I forwarded it about 4 o'clock you did so yeah maybe that's something we can review in a little more that's just another piece of information and and this handout here that's um Jay that was on the table that that was sent by Town Council and it's it's a guide and it's what we've already had exactly um Eric I I think your words what you said is contradictory it's actually in D regulations that they are part of the approval process the local board yourself play a role and the ultimate approval is done through the uh the legislative Authority or the the board of Select so there's a number of different steps but make no mistake I've had two conversations with the EP at the Lakeville office and and they said we have nothing to consider right now he needs to submit that to us so I I I I don't know if they brought I can't imagine they get too many of these so these individuals maybe have not been involved I don't know if it was the right office or not um but the EP would certainly want to play a role I think you'd want to hear I think the board would want to hear from D of what their decision is on this well from someone at D that can speak authorit L apparently question my understanding was that this gentleman well first of all he he is um he is from the Lakeville office and my understanding was that he would be one of the people reviewing the application but but he saying that they say don't any they don't have any role that's what the email says yeah so there's some sort of review role maybe he not saying it's a a role approval or not right no if the board remembers there was again she was not a subject matter expert by any means but an attorney out on out on the Martha's Vineyard who has handled two of these I guess that gives her some experience right in this and said that in fact the EP would be she actually changed I thought it was the board and then and then D but she kind of reversed that said it should go on to D once that threshold is crossed it would come back to the board so D in my opinion and I if I could May stand corrected they clearly I think the board would want to see their approval in their review so it's my understanding I remember anyway from the from last meeting that Mr mcer was instructed to go ahead and submit to D what he had already exactly right he has then get back to us with their response that's right Madam chairman and I don't know what that time frame is but he has the plot plan he has the surveying work he has the hydrogeological study um with the soil evalu Val ation um so that information he actually he went ahead and proactively I I believe although I didn't see them the abutters he has notification from them what role they play in your decision- making up to the board but he is uh and again that may be part of the policy that you you enact later on um but he has taken steps I don't have any I I hav any confirmation that he has done that I but I certainly as he submitted the paperwork but I do know with certainty have no information back from the EP so um he Mr MCC does not know about what we just heard about also from um Lori with the water department and that's that zone two is causing a concern for them because that that's what the property's in although the burial site is not within zone two is that correct Barry that's correct but for instance when we do any kind of septic um information like if somebody wants to add a bedroom if it's any part of their property is in a Zone 2 the whole entire property is considered in a Zone 2 that's how we deal with septic so how you want to deal with the green burial on this you can say either all the property is or if the burial site's not that's up to the decision for the board but that's generally how when Jay and I make decisions on septic okay we tall or or none and you and is there some sort of regulatory background for that I mean do we have that ability to say this section of zone two is excluded from this particular application for a burial we can you can put it in your policy it's and it's through the water department also that just for regulation of the amount of I I know it's different with bedrooms and with a body but we when it's been deemed a zone two if one corner of your lot is in a zone two the whole property is deemed right CU with that buffer zone I there's and I I know that Mr gillo Right Said is there any chance for you know excluding that piece of the property from the zone two didn't he he he did he what he's saying is in fact and I think Eric has said this in a in an email to me but but the plot itself is not in zone 2 it doesn't it actually doesn't work that way the address like we do with the flood zone I asked the Building Commissioner how does the flood zone the 100 year and five 500 year if a property is in the flood zone it's consider it's it's 10% it it doesn't matter it doesn't have to be 100% in total or partial it's in the flood zone um but you did hear from the water superintendent uh that their consultant has said and I'm I'm not going to read the whole email I think you have a concerned about the guidance states that viruses and microorganisms can live for many years after a burial so theoretically microorganisms could be pulled into our W into our wells and she went on to say that I would be in favor of adding that restriction to the bylaw the the aqua for protection district bylaw that we have in town that green burials would in fact or home burials would not be allowed in zone two now they don't have that right now but she is stating that if if that's the case and I know Hillard had requested to some more information about that consultant in terms of the credentials and qualifications yeah bios from that and I've and I've passed that on I received that today and I've passed that on to to Lori the water superintendent and to Simply say we need some background if we're going to be dealing with science and data let's have we need to be able to back that up and uh I haven't heard that was just today that I send that back okay so I ask a question of what um um uh What uh APD is it says we would like to prohibit green burials in the APD for protection district okay I is and additionally and D is supposed to be looking at the and it's it's in your pack that you that you have received it's the flood zone the 100500 year and this this is in that flood zone as well right we just want to make sure we have guidelines in place that that are consistent and there's a standardization Mary's talked about this for some time we have to have a set policy at standard so that every applicant um has a it knows what the rules are right we do this in so many other ways in public health we have to make sure that and these are guidelines to protect in this case is protecting the environment and and also our public water supply yeah I may be opening a can of worms here but um in my career as a veterinarian I can't count the number of times we've actually euthanized horses and dropped them into the ground we're totally unaware of any regulations to that effect yeah so that I don't know if that's just opening a can of worms or uh something that I've had to deal with as a veterinarian and I think goes on on a regular basis all over the cape yeah that something we even want to get into or is that uh I know left I I would caution the board putting putting putting animals on the say you know this is a sacred process um I well but from a perspective of the pathology water department it's the same criteria right in other words we're talking about viruses and microorganisms that potentially could contaminate the I'm I'm not trying to Advocate that that be the case but I think as a board of health we're rather than looking at the sacred aspect of it we're looking at the health aspect of it and it would be the same all the same biology and Physiology that these organisms if I might add they're all sapres they're not typically pathogenic organisms unless they're um unless the U human or animal is exposed in huge quantities these are organisms that live ubiquitous ly in the environment um so my senses are not an issue but right it is something that goes on U on without any concern without any without any regulation that I'm aware of because I think I would be aware of it then you know typically what we do is have a back ho come in and dig a hole probably six or eight feet deep and we drop the horse in and that would be the end of it you know and that goes on continuously I was part of it I I owned a horse in my 20s I know exactly was part of that process absolutely it does them buried in my six yeah I do understand I don't what is I think there's eight dogs I don't know if Larry it's it's a very valid point I don't know if we could regulate that what's I don't even know if we we want could even open the yeah right no no I know what you're saying wor well my my point is that we're not dealing with toxic weight I mean we're not dealing with atomic wastes here right you know so right I mean we do have to formulate a guidelines but it's it's not it's the normal flora that a body has that that it's a normal natural process and what are the things maybe is if I can uh hopefully we'll get the background of the consultant and and what they're basing their findings on and perhaps they can zoom into the next meeting to so that you hear firsthand and then answer questions that you might have for what that what that might look like um Mary yourself and Hillard may have some information regarding the cause of death whether just thinking certain medicines and things that might be leeching leech into the into the groundwater that may be another consideration what the board would say well the if a certain causes of death would exclude an individual from being buried um outside of a vault or you know Green burial things of that nature the other part I want to just let the board know while I can while I'm thinking of it Town Council cautioned uh sent an email to caution the board of being too restrictive on markers in that because their first amendment rights involved there and they would help guide in that process so um I think there's some latitude that that they could make that perhaps Town Council or the other the law firm could could guide the board on on what is allowable for a uh for a marker of a uh of a graef should you move forward and allow this yeah Barry brought up a good point about zone two and the property if any part of it is in zone two so that certainly would give us a a you know would would give us some guidelines even in this case if I mean we would have to either what would be like issue a precedent or we would if if this if we approve this particular case then we'd have to make make concessions or possibly make concessions going forward and L those are called conditions and the board and the board has done this on different they they they'll issue a permit with conditions um and and that happens all to be determined what this policy might look like variances or or uh or conditions that are put on to that um to that permit that that might be uh that might be something that the board wants to consider on the um from the list that Jay has provided us with are there any other considerations you can think of that are not listed here that we might want to make sure we know about because we kind of had a surprise with the maybe a fee maybe what a fee like a like a fe okay what else anything else I had uh in my notes put a shroud or casket type I don't know if that's something that needs to be MH outlined here but I Envision a section with some basic definitions of what is a green burial what is a home burial what is a casket what are the types that would be standard for a a home burial our policies usually have that so yes definitely for this one because it is such a unusual subject interestingly that is outlined in D's regulations what is what is actually allowed we can copy we can we don't have to up with you know recreate something but those with the Wicker and the UN untreated wood and the things of that nature those those are all defined and it's in D's regulations so I suppose if it's in D's regulations it doesn't need to be necessarily listed in ours well it does because well we have to say in ours that we meet all of the state requirements so I think I would list all of the EPS also because that would that would help people from having to just try to go and do what we've been doing which has really been I think peace meal in terms of trying to figure out what what's required anything else that anyone can think of that needs to be addressed no think what did you say about a fee if there there might be a fee yeah would we consider a fee for the application oh I wouldn't well they dealt with they dealt with enough crap already why charge them for it right well this is just a list of things that we might consider what about someone who wants to be buried with their horse I know that happened once up in Maine yeah I mean the hor from my from what I in my previous research um a human cannot be married in an animal cemetery and a animal can't be buried in a human Cemetery I when I found when I was researching ashes like what to do with ashes and that that came up so interesting now what's done in that case typically if an owner really requests to be buried with their animal it's surreptitiously done at their interment with the ashes of the pet with the ashes okay that's usually how it works I have never heard of it not right happening right but that is a fairly common request I know yeah yeah read it init is quite a bit anything else Jay anything else that's come up this was not a to-do list but things to be considered and the one that I'd say the cause of death is the one I listed also what you're saying um and and then what I'm going to be looking to do is to really Define because I think it may change because we have you you you have an immediate applicant right in front of you and um I think it's important that that water consultant because that's that's a that's a hard stop is what there's what they the information that they've given us is is stopping regardless of what D says are the water supplier for the town of Yarmouth is saying we we would like to prohibit this right so does that go across the board do they want that uh you know CommunityWide are they saying we don't want you to even consider this I you know regardless of the conditions regardless of the location or the size of the lot and what have you the the depth to water and if we're allowed to make any exceptions right what what that might look like I I really think the next and again this just had come to me but I really think the uh again prompting by Hiller to say let let's get the consultant not just in a bio but also to have an exchange of information for the board to have um and I think with that information it may give you better direction as to what this looks like yeah the other issue uh as far as the um water superintendent goes she kind of generalizes about the viruses and microorganisms but there really aren't any specifics and I think you alluded to um Hill's request that we get a little more information because I think she might have overstated the significance of those organisms in in in this case Larry maybe right I I think she is relying on the water consultant so with that information I would probably ask Lori perhaps Jeff but probably Lori and the water consultant where she gleaned that information from and just transcribed it to us to the board so um I think we again we've talked to Funeral Directors other communities attorneys uh this is just one more place to make sure that we have a cohesive and comprehensive policy was understanding that the funeral directors have a conflicting interest in this whole process as well they do yes but with good information the board will make good decisions so that we want to put that in front of you and then you have some decisions to make so then we've added um cause of death markers fee or not um um whether we can make an exception to a Zone 2 um the casket the body preparation definitions and all of this of course is premised on hearing some more from the water consultant because like you said little more information yeah they say no more zone two n none in zone two then that dictates the the current applications right um decision and but it does not leave us off the hook for getting a policy for the next one that comes in Madam chair I think there isn't the urgency I do feel a sense of urgency in respect to to Ross to to get this together but you're right if if zone two and and the board were to say listen we're not we're not move we're going to be we're going to be consistent with what the superintendent believes and the consultant believes um then you're right then application would would not move forward but this process Barry and I will still be working on this right and I I would suggest that um you know um Eric had already offered to help with it that you have a a smaller group of people working on it so that maybe you can bring to us a draft policy and and we can then look at that okay um I think that it's not very doable to actually work on it in a meeting unless it's a smaller work group so if you guys could get kind of what you would like for an answer to each one of those questions and then bring them to us and we can kind of consolidate them and go from there some of this just somewhat shaping the size of the lot like the size of the Lot 0. 2 or 0.5 1.5 five acres what that minimum might look like that we can give a recommendation but that's the board's decision on on those you give a recommendation and tell us what it's based on I have no idea what size lot I mean just wouldn't have it right right we can handle that the same way we handle septic you know sometimes we can give a variance there's certain conditions that's you know and yeah and doesn't have to be cut in stone Mary did you add the significance of the the viruses in the microorganisms yes uhu I think we probably need to get a little bit more information on specifics because I'm sure there's some real specifics as to what organisms are involved in a decomposition of of a body right whether or not they would be detrimental to Public Health and the water consultant since he cited those are the one is the one that can at least tell us what he has yeah bed out where that information came from right and and In fairness to both Lori and the consultant I gave a very general could you give me some guidance on this so I you don't see detail here here but it wasn't even requested so please know that was a very generic answer and we'll drill down to the information that the Board needs great a lot to it yeah and it was important to know that to hear that because that's well said dying was easy Jay what number nine says Define area of n disturbance what what is that in reference to so around the lot itself so the you're going to say the lot size is is a certain square footage and then not to disturb around that say like and I had to put it in the same in even an analogy but around a septic system there's setbacks in there areas that can't be disturbed so the lot there would be the the lot size itself and that will be defined and then an area outside of that that cannot be disturbed and that has to be defined as well okay right so they're not put a pool on top of right right right right right so maybe there's a better terminology in our policy but that's and we use that in uh zoning we use that in uh the building side of of uh inspectional services so I I just thought that was applicable makes sense any other comments on this topic for now so for the next meeting if we could just have anyway the bones skeleton of a policy and and some of the areas that we need to give you input on but like I said some of the technical things I'd prefer we get some recommendations from you because you're the experts in those kinds of things and okay okay that all right Jay we talked it I appreciate the guidance it gives me some direction and uh I'm going to be in touch with Lori and uh I can't say the water can but I'll be in touch with Lori and I'll coordinate for the for the meeting and actually that meeting is on the 8 if that works for everyone and Jay I'll you may have seen it already but I'll send you the town of Wendell they they have some information on this okay which I don't know if you've seen yet in your research but that doesn't seen Westwoods I haven't seen wends I don't I don't know that I've seen that yeah they have a nice checklist and they kind of outlin the some of the responsibilities of the parties involved so they they share Port of Health responsibilities and then applicant responsibilities which we may decide to change some of those but it might be a no helpful pull up on yeah this where's Wendel I I still I still haven't figured out where is it in Massachusetts it I'm only kidding I just that they I can't I don't know that I've yeah yeah there's a western part of the state somewhere a rural area I think yeah yeah lot of horses thank you appreciate that no thank you um yeah yeah sure sure okay um let's take a look at the minutes from um the last meeting which was October 21st 24 well done any uh comments or Corrections yeah I have to uh congratulate Mo for that thorough job she does for the reporting all these minutes because absolutely brought back all those I mean I couldn't have remembered all those things great the way you just put it all you know the all the discussion between Charlie and Jay put it down clearly and it was really just great I guess You' like to make a motion to accept I do is there a second second okay um you decide Mo which one it was and we'll take a vote all in favor of accepting the minutes of October 21st I I I thank you so they are accepted uh the next next item eight is new and old business how did the dolphin Dash go uh it was very well attended I think just over 120 um participants nice um I got to catch up with Bruce a little bit I I stuck with him for about a mile so yeah um you mean he went ahead of you well he towards the end I had to work to catch up with him but uh no it was that was it was ahead it was it was a nice event um good good well attended and uh you know it was it was a beautiful morning to be out there so thank you for listing it on the on the Ton's website right any other old business no just I would just let the board know that Hillard had put out the opioid by by Community by municipality I thought was good information is certainly something that we will we'll be looking for and it gives us a data point in time so we can then see and I I I attend the yac meetings we have the opioid remediation dollars uh and again it's it's datadriven decision-making so that we understand what what what what is confronting us and you you know it was a week ago we saw although I don't have all the reports on that but tragically two two individuals died on a on a beach here in in town and we don't know but there certainly those things raise a concern that we as public health we need to be aware of working with law enforcement and they'll will release those that kind of information but make no mistake their substance abuse is a is a real challenge in not only just in Yarmouth across the whole cape in a community Youth and there's no there's no demographic that is that isn't touched by this so uh it's important that we have this information right we we have um not a whole lot of decrease from 2016 to 2023 Statewide and for Yarmouth uh looks like we had a few years 20 and 21 that were above the seven or eight point um we're back down to seven so right but Seven's too many uh any other old business so the hell of it I'd like to see how many people died to alcohol at the same time y i I don't know that they separate that out because it could be motor vehicle could be suicide yeah there's a lot of failure kill somebody else yeah probably again way too many way too many any new business just a reminder that tomorrow's a anyone watching tomorrow's a voting day right absolutely to encourage individuals we forget yeah I know huh right just there you know um in the other part hopefully uh Halloween went went was certainly safe here in town a lot of uh there were a lot of a lot of different events nonprofits uh at the town There's a number of different things that happened at the library and and Beyond the senior center lot of nice events um and it just it's a sense of community that we had and on Halloween so that was nice beautiful warm night yes so that was that was wonderful hope you all at your own residence had a enjoy an enjoyable evening Eric is there anything you want to suggest oh um so at one point in time we had our meetings at 5:00 and I think we had moved them to 5:30 to accommodate a member who's no longer part of the board so just curious if anyone would like want to move them back to five consider doing it at 5:00 so we could get home to our families a little bit earlier my my only concern with that is that uh rack meeting starts at 4 it's not always over by five but I would say late lately most often it is so what meeting is that the Wastewater resources advisory committee I'm the representative from the board to that meeting so and those are on the same days same days yes and we've talked about it but it's still gets back to the same day so um I have no objection to that anybody else object to that sounds like a plan you like to make a motion to that effect sure I move that we uh schedule our future Board of Health meetings to occur at 5:00 p.m. instead of 5:30 second second Charlie second it all in favor I I I and I assume the staff is okay with that because one has here absolutely we're in favor of that saving the town money too ah hey that's it's a good thing are we going to see any kickbacks from that well the department is your microphone on any other new business okay go vote if you haven't already please okay um I'll entertain a motion for the meeting to be adjourned make a motion to get out of Dodge all right Charlie thank you second second second Eric all in favor hi good night thank you all thank you guys