The chair opens the October 20th, 2025 meeting of the community housing committee. Um, first order of business. >> You want you want to open by roll call vote? >> Open by roll call vote. So, um, we'll start with Pal
>> here. >> Lee >> here. >> Myra >> here. >> Greg >> here. >> Drew >> here. >> John here. Dedra >> here. Okay. Um
committee uh committee business minutes. >> None. >> Okay. Um so we have um >> Megan Eldridge. >> Megan Eldridge who's the new director of community development here and we'll let
you introduce yourself and go from there. >> Okay. Well, thank you, Mr. Chair. My name is Megan Eldridge. I'm the new director of community development. I uh started about three weeks ago, so I'm still getting used to all of the boards
and committees that um staff overseas and and helps out and I am here to bounce ideas off of or assist you in any way you need. I came from the town of Harwitch. I was the assistant town administrator there prior to this. and
Harwitch had an affordable housing trust and a housing committee that was not fully constituted. So, um, unfortunate, but I'm very excited to be a part of a town that has a working and and, uh,
accessible housing committee. And anything you need from me, just let me know. And you have a great great Mary. >> We do. >> We do. We do have a great Mary. >> Great Mary. >> Um, any questions for me? Right.
>> Uh, no questions, but welcome aboard. >> Thank you very much. >> And I I met you the other day. I sat next to you with the community preservation committee. >> You did? Yes. >> Welcome. >> Thank you so much. >> Welcome. >> I'm going to stick around for a little while to see what you're see. And I have
to scoot out around 2:30. >> All right. >> Okay. >> Thank you. >> All right. Um, Habitat for Humanity neighborhood at 1121 Route 28 South Yarmouth update and discussion.
>> Sure. So, um, staff will give you a quick update. Um, we, uh, reviewed that project in May. Uh, the chair signed the letter of support today. Once that LIP application um is ready, you'll sign that as well.
Uh, the chair will sign that as well. Um, you're the town's local housing partnership committee. So, uh, these local initiative program chapter 40Bs have to come through you. Um, so that's why there's two spots we need John to to
sign. Um, the presentation to the select board will be on November 4th. um their meetings start, you know, I think six depending on how many items there are and where you are in the agenda, but I'll keep you updated. It'd
be great if some of if you're available on the fourth if you can attend. Um Habitat will probably come, you know, with about three staff people, but it's always good if if we're there as well. Um and >> the select board hasn't seen that at all
yet. They should be a little bit aware of it just because the trust helped them helped Habitat with the purchase of the property. But this will be the first formal presentation uh to the select board. And just like this committee, the select board need to
sign off on it to give it that local initiative status. So it'll be a formal presentation to the select board and a place for them to sign on the application. So, um, the trust did help them with those funds. Myra sits on the trust. Our
town administrator Bob Written Hour sits on the trust and so doesn't select board member Mark Forest. So, um hopefully um it'll go fine. >> Okay. Um Metaky's utilization project um
update and discussion. >> Yep. So, I went to a very fascinating meeting last week. As you know, they've done some public outreach. They did surveys. They they had these um pods. They had the housing pod that you
participated in. Um we made recommendations to the Madaki utilization committee. Um there was a community workshop that you part some of you participated in. So now uh the Madakis utilization committee is taking all of that information and working with
the town planner and is it BSC? I think it's Thank you. Um the BSC group um to come up with some suggested bubble they call them bubble >> bubble diagrams. Okay. >> A bubble diagram is
>> it's kind of like not exactly what's going where but kind of like this is would be the area for a school. This would be the area for housing. This would be an area for, you know, recreation. >> Not in any specifics. >> No. >> So, I mean, just >> But is it like like the bubble is like
an area within the property, >> an area for possibly a private uh public partnership for, you know, some uh sports complex, >> that kind of stuff. >> So, that's going that's going along. and
last meeting, you know, they've been been discussing this for a while and they started to take votes. So, it was a very interesting meeting to be at. Um, and I have to compliment BSC um and uh the town planner for really kind of getting them to make uh votes
that would give direction and were clear. >> So, um I think they're going to go to the select board soon. They're going to have another kind of like I think of another round of bubble plants >> kind of like, oh, is it? Oh, good. So,
and then they're going to bring these draft bubble diagrams to the select board on the fourth and get some feedback from the select board as to whether they're going in the right direction. And um you know, kind of before BSC
starts to spend a lot of engineering time on the plans, they want to make sure they're going in the right direction. Um, so it looks like right now there's kind of like three. There's three. There's kind of one uh with uh
the the housing that was your preferred housing. >> I think with the school and recreation and some type of I think that was it. I don't think that one had the private part uh private public. >> That's right. One of them didn't have that.
>> All right. And then one is more focused on that public private >> a little bit of housing >> where is housing falling in the hierarchy >> always a lot well and the first one I think it's kind of equal right um then
there's another one would which would be an area for housing but not quite the density we were thinking of um and then one just housing on chicky >> housing only on chickade is the >> really no other housing on the >> Yeah.
>> Well, that's that's bad. >> So, they spoke a lot about it. They spoke a lot about it. It was it was very interesting. Um and they are, you know, now it's time for them to make those decisions. They they have been charged with, you know, bringing those
recommendations forward. >> What kind of housing are they looking at it on Chickity? >> Just those lots, >> those single family lots that we were talking about, >> not apartments, houses, right? We're probably only talking about eight or 10 units of housing now. >> Is that? >> Yeah.
>> But those would be for sale, correct? For >> Well, it's a it's very interesting because I I think I might have misunderstood the chair, but I have a different idea now. So, you know, um I think that could be a a way to raise
funds for other things on the site that you can't easily raise funds for. >> If they're if they're sold, >> if they were Yeah. If they were sold, those lots would be worth a little bit and they can go towards something else that's the town needs money for in the site. >> But when they when they're talking about
sales, they're talking about a not necessarily affordable, but workforce for for folks that not market. >> It would be market. But I think what the chair Sharon Wymer was thinking of was >> to build on those and actually rent them
out >> as as the right as the way to generate funds. >> So I mean there's some there's some potential there. >> Be the landlord of the of the >> that's what I recall her original plan. >> We would keep the ownership. We would hire somebody to to be the property
manager. >> Okay. So you generate funds and that's good because those funds will then be used to do what? >> Something else on the site. Whatever something else on the site >> something interesting. This is this is the first plan I ever worked on where a
lot of things were kind of driven by the financial feasibility first. >> You know what I mean? Like a lot of things were like well if you do this you get this you unlock this finances or if you do this you can generate taxes or
you know >> it's very interesting. I >> remember uh the our former uh assistant town administrator kept saying well if you build subsidized housing that or if you build housing that will attract money >> that will unlock
>> will unlock money. What happened to that concept? still on there. That part of the plan is still on there. >> So with the three schemes >> and at least one of them, >> one has virtually no housing. How much housing are are in the other two schemes? Well, so let's say that the the
the one that they accepted the proposal from the housing pod, that would be about 60 to 72 units depending on if you you know it was like 62 apartments or 60 apartments plus two
small cluster subdivisions of six each, right? >> So that would be about maximum 72 units. It'd be 60 apartments and six detached homes. Six of them we we just penciled in Habitat and six of them we just
penciled in municipal employees, rental units for municipal employees. And then to the other side, right, it would just be the lots on Chickity. >> It would just be what? >> The lots on Chickity. >> Right. >> Right. And then kind of in the middle
would be an area of six to eight acres for housing, but but much lower density >> like the duplexes. >> Remember the duplex idea? It was we were so happy about but you know it's it's something to think about. So they'll
bring it to the select board and we'll see what the select if the select board have any comments. They might say great keep going or they might give them completely different direction. So, >> I want to go on record of saying I'm quite disappointed.
>> I I second that. >> Well, I mean that first one with the 62 units, is that what you said? >> Mhm. I don't define that as disappointing, but it sounds like there's I have no idea of knowing what they're really what
they themselves consider their real preferences, you know, >> like it's one of those uh plans just window dressing to have well, we want to have three plans. So, we'll we'll pretend that this is a viable that we want this. I have no idea.
>> I think I think you're you hit the nail on the head. I think the one with the with with more housing is window dressing. >> I don't know. >> From what I've seen through this whole process, the priority of housing has gotten lesser and lesser and lesser in
the eyes of the the folks that are making these decisions. And that's fine that they're the ones who make the decisions. We only make recommendations. But that's the direction I see it going in. And and it's I think it's sad. >> I'd rather say it's right. They have the It's all on the up and up, but it it's
not fun. >> Yeah. Yeah. I'm I'm I just don't like I don't I don't like the results. It's almost like a game. We you know, maybe we didn't score enough points or whatever, but um so I understand um that and and they're they're the experts, not me. So, but I would have liked to have
seen and hopefully >> I'm not into the expert thing either. >> Hopefully hopefully there there will be um at least some housing there. Uh >> anyway, >> there you have it. >> How about the folk? Maybe you want to
invite them to >> any any comments from um those remotely in uh >> Yeah, Lee has her hand up as a matter of fact. Yeah, >> we your your her volume is way down.
>> Yeah, we can't hear you, Lee. >> Can you hear me better now? A little bit. >> A little bit, but not real good. >> I'm disappointed that returning back to the discussion of duplexes. >> Did you hear that? >> Yes, >> I heard it.
>> You're disappointed. Uh the discussion has gone back to duplexes. >> Correct. >> Well, why don't I why don't I let um you you know, the town administrator know about your comments, >> right? Mhm.
>> And um see if he would like to pass those on to the select board >> before the meeting. No reason to not tell, you know what I mean? Not to let them know. Um and we don't want it to be a surprise on
November 4th, right? So, >> okay. Um, next item, proposed uh chapter 40B development at 897 Route 28 update and discussion. >> That's the laundrymat bill uh area,
>> right? So, it's >> public I've heard a lot of negative comments about the current plan. Yeah. >> Just no parking, no green areas for children, things like that. Yeah. >> And the architecture is
>> Yeah. The arch Yeah. Um, >> so I think a lot of those comments that um you've you've heard kind of in line with the comments that this committee put forward um that likewise the planning board put forward and the select board put forward
um and submitted to the ZBA. The um public, if I have my dates right, the public hearing was open on the 25th of September and it was continued to November 13th, 2025. the project proponent is kind of modifying the plans based on some
comments they've received from the ZBA. Um, and the affordable housing trust did meet with the project proponent, I think it's last week, last week. And and again, the main comments that people are are submitting to the ZBA, they were
brought up at that meeting um to see if the Affordable Housing Trust could partner with the owner of the property, the project proponents, and see if they could help in some way um have the development go into, you know, the direction that we want to see Route
28, which of course is mixeduse housing. kind of like developments to scale, parking, walkableness, and uh you know, an affordable housing component. So, we'll see how that goes.
Um you know, they can say whatever they want, and then you know, once they're in that public hearing with the ZBA, they can say whatever they want. So, it's their project. So, but at least um I think they know that we're willing to
work with them to improve it. So, You don't have any more comments on that, do you, Megan? >> Comment. Uh, >> no. I think you got got the gist of the affordable housing trust meeting. They Kathy Williams was there, town planner,
and really gave her opinion on what what the project should look like. Um, not having these three block buildings, but having pitched roofs and >> some um modulations in the building, so they're not just blocks. Um, the developers seemed open-minded about
that. Um, they presented a plan that looked different from the one I believe you you had seen previously. Um, putting putting something up up at the the Route 28 side with possible mixeduse
commercial on the bottom, housing on the top. So, it is one of their proposals. Whether they choose to go with that one or not is to be seen. Yeah. >> You're welcome. >> Okay.
>> Oh, did I tell you that? All right. Yes. November 13th is the next date and I would at least tune in um you know >> the next date for >> the So the the public hearing was opened on September 25th and it was continued
to November 13th. So they got comments from the ZBA and they said that they would look at modifying the plans to address those comments. So of course they need time to work with their engineer and their architects D. So um
it's it's planned to be on the November 13th uh agenda for the ZBA. So, if I see that agenda, I'll I'll forward it to you guys so you'll know. How's
that? >> Okay. Do we have any comments from the Zoom side? >> Okay. >> No comments. >> Sorry. >> No comments. >> Okay.
>> Um reports and actions. Uh chair's report. I don't have anything uh home consortium >> uh home consortium. So I was unable to attend the last meeting. I do apologize. Um I did however send this uh notice of
funding availability to Mary. I don't know if you were at the meeting and you already had it Mary, but I thought I'd send it along anyway. Um but they did, as I said, they did announce this and um they also announced that they have funding for a couple of
different programs. Um one is the home program and they have funding for $600,000 for a single program only. Secondly is a home ARP program fund for $575,000.
Again, that's one program only. So, that money is out there. Um, the next meeting um is Thursday, November 20th, 9:00 am Zoom, and I do plan on attending that one. >> Okay. Uh, Yarmouth Housing Authority.
>> Um, the Yarmouth Housing Authority, Mr. Bar here to my right, has been appointed by the uh governor to be a member of the housing authority board. >> Congratulations. >> So, we're carrying on a new configuration now. when we met with the
uh mass housing partnership, the quai government organization that advises us on our project for the so-called forest road property and uh we are she had some suggestions for tweaking our RFP and
she's going to uh be working on some stuff along those lines and we're going to carry on in that way. That's my update unless she wanted to add anything. >> So about the housing authority. Um I I think that the town administrator's
office has some comments. >> Good. Yes. >> RFP. >> Yeah. >> Would you be willing to carry those back? >> Sure. Yeah. >> Okay. All right. So I'll I'll let >> You mean you're going to hand me a written
>> hand them to me or something? Oh, I know that there's comments, >> you know, and I I know that >> um I know there's comments. I know the select board would like to workshop with the housing authority about that. Maybe we could uh I don't know what John
thinks but maybe between the >> uh among the board we could uh create our create a subcommittee to work with the uh to meet with the >> select board group to workshop it or
something. >> Let's float that idea. >> Doesn't have to be at a formal select board. >> I'll bring that to the town side. You guys bring that to the housing authority side. be better actually not in a formal right setting. >> Is that possible to have a >> informal >> non
>> workshop is is like what >> you you it's my opinion and I'd have to double check with town administrator's office is my opinion is that you can >> you can split off subcommittees to do some work >> that are nonquorum subcommittees
>> that so as a concept that appeals to me. So >> I think that would be the better way to do it. But if you could check with your >> right >> with with your staff to see if that's acceptable. We don't want to violate open meeting law. >> Right. >> No. No.
>> All right. Good. >> These are just notions and thoughts. They're not >> right. >> Right. >> Okay. Uh, next item. Affordable housing trust. >> Hold on. I got to write that down.
I'm sorry. So, okay, the trust. So, we're um we're very active and and Myra, chime in if you want to add anything. Um we're very active right now in preserving those um established affordable homes that are expiring use.
They're coming up for sale. So the trust has been very active in setting aside and expending funds that at the resale of our affordable homes that were that were created in the 80s and the 90s right when they come up for sale now just to make sure that we buy them down
to an affordable um amount. So that's what's been going on. And also um I just wanted to announce Myra um our IT department now has a podcast studio
and we wanted to do some work on documenting 640 the redevelopment of 645 Route 28. So Myra, we we might be able to do it. >> Awesome. >> Just wait till you see it. I they had
the door open today and it it was really cool. I got like >> What project is that? I'm sorry. >> So 645 Route 28. Um it's it's owned by Bay Ridge and the gentleman the developer is
Dennis Ccado and I know him from from other towns doing a little bit of affordable housing and they thought that they would need the ready renter lottery service. It turns out we negotiated uh that was the one that the Department of Mental
Health was going to rent all but one unit. Did I tell you guys that? >> Chinese the old Chinese restaurant. >> No, it's um >> it's across from Captain Parker's. >> No, it's in it's in Barnstable. It's in >> I'm talking No, I'm talking about 645 Route 28. >> So anyways, that's who Dennis Cocado is.
It's a long >> Okay, you got >> I'm taking the long way. I'm taking the long way. Okay. So, the developer, Dennis Cocado, he comes in with a chapter 40B proposal for 645. It's the ch old Chinese food restaurant. >> That's what I thought. Yeah. >> Yeah. And he came in with a proposal for
uh chapter 40B. It wasn't horrible, but it wasn't what we were looking for. So, he partnered with the trust to to not go chapter 40B, but use our local zoning. And so, it's going to be mixed use. Instead of 23 apartments, it's going to
be 11. Four affordable and two commercial uh units with enough housing. I mean uh with enough parking. That was the big deal was getting enough parking and some good site design. It's on the corner of Route 28 in Applebee.
So, it's a good story. >> Okay. Um planning board. uh planning board. We've been very busy getting the final uh comprehensive plan, putting in all the comments that we've gotten in the last month or so of open open for
discussion and we'll be presenting it to the select board. I think it's next week and that and the zoning changes that we've been working on will be uh put on the town meeting November 17th. and uh that's what we've spent
most of our time on and uh also lots of discussion of the uh 40B897 Route 28. And at our last meeting, we reviewed an interesting state document where the state has
uh this new concept of seasonal communities and its certain requirements and permissions if you qualify as a seasonal community. And under their definition,
we don't because it's got to be 35% defined as seasonal households and ours is 33%. So we're just under their limit, but we looked at the document and decided that we had no comments. This is
right now it's at the state level. They're looking for comments about the process. And I really don't I don't know if you've seen it, Mary. It's a very >> it didn't it nothing really stood out to me. So these are the these are the reg state regulations for seasonal communities and I really didn't see
anything and mostly because we don't qualify. >> We don't qualify but there is a movement around to change that and say all of Barnstable County qualifies. If they did that then we would have to decide if we wanted to accept the qualification. And
like you, I didn't see I don't understand the housing programs well enough, but uh there are certain things that would be required and certain things that would be permitted. And uh and then they also were making an emphasis on uh housing for artists and
municipal employees, neither of which was well defined. A lot of things in this document were not well defined, but the planning board decided not to make any comments. And it's just something to know that it's out there and it might come back. >> So, we've been talking about seasonal
housing for what since I've been on this board two years now, I think. What are the benefits of being a seasonal housing community, >> but that's what I found it's hard to figure out from this document >> if there are any >> if there are any. And >> are there any detriments to it?
So, I think I think I think what they they're seeing as a benefit is that you can do some zoning >> for things like yearround home ownership units. >> So, you can't do that right now. You can't you can zone, but you can't
control the type of ownership that goes in it unless it's deed restricted affordable. Yeah. >> So, I didn't I really didn't see the need to do zoning for that because usually the obstacle to that is the funding. >> Yeah. >> So, anyways, um
>> you don't know what the benefits or detriments are. The detriment could be that you you to be a seasonal community, you have to go to town meeting and town meeting needs to say, "Yes, we want to be a seasonal community and then we need to adopt this kind of zoning." And the
zoning, one of the zoning requirements is that you accept tiny homes. >> So that that's kind of going down that pathway that we went down before with ADUs, >> right? >> Yeah. Right. Yeah.
>> So, so I maybe the maybe town meeting in Yarmouth will say this is a great idea but that it might be it might spark those discussions similar discussions as >> there must be an official definition of tiny home then right yeah there was >> which I don't know what it is memory
motel rooms are not included in the listing of homes right and that that qualify for the 35% >> that's what I wanted to look into because >> because those are tiny homes >> those those >> motel rooms, right? >> I I really don't think that the definition is clearly the best
definition they could come up with given existing databases, but it really doesn't cover some of the uh the seasonality of of our towns. I don't think it's easily covering the six months in Florida people, right?
>> I think it's not capturing a lot of our seasonality. And so, but if if it ever becomes a real thing, I'd love to dig into the data and come up with some of that stuff. But >> my house my street's a ghost town in the winter. Okay. Because >> half the half the half the street is has
gone. Uh >> so so is mine. >> Yeah. >> And a lot of those people are going to be counted as year-round residents and they're not really. So it's an interesting >> people that just leave their houses empty. Yeah. >> Right. For the winter, >> but they vote here. >> Their tax address. I get it.
>> Right. So, >> the thing about the empty homes isn't really accounted for. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Good report. Busy busy board. >> Community preservation committee.
>> Lee, do you want me to do the report? >> Yes, please. Because I was at I was not at the housing feed. Can you boost the volume in any way, Lee? >> I'm trying to talk right into the microphone. That's a little better. It's much better. Okay. So, um the community
uh preservation committee reviewed five housing applications. There was a request for $180,000 from Habitat for Humanity for the uh development on Route 28. Um, HCH help put in a request for
$360,000 for a home ownership repair program. That would be continuing what they do now. Uh, Hands of Hope put in um I think it was $55,000. >> That's right. I remember that. >> It is >> 45. There's another 10 that came.
>> Right. They're going to bring in 10,000 of their own money >> and the CPC request is 45,000. So that's for rental assistance that was extremely well received by the community
preservation committee and um the cap on an assistance was $2500 >> and the um the the committee asked if that could be raised to $5,000
thus doubling um you know the uh request um to 90,000. So, Hands of Hope is thinking about that um because they just the rents are so high that you can't help somebody if your cap is for
assistance is 2500. Um and if you are providing first and last month's rent to get somebody into a new unit, you need $5,000 minimum. So, they're thinking about that. Um, the Affordable Housing Trust put in for a request for $200,000
for general deposit and have asked, they have this uh buy down money, $1.71 million from all the years they asked for buyown money. Um, kind of um it's just sitting there. We've put out RFP
after RFP. The market is just too it's too expensive to buy down single family homes right now to make them affordable. So, we're hoping to add at town meeting, add a use to that fund, those funds to allow for redevelopment on Route 28 into
mixed juice um developments with an affordable housing component. So, um that's what I have for you for the CPC. >> Okay. Department of Community Development, we met the new director. Um do you have
anything on Ready Renter? Yeah, the Ready Renter lottery program is holding a lottery right now for two two-bedroom units at 232 Upper County Road in Dennis. We do get paid for providing those lottery services. So, it's a way to generate money for the program. And
also, we're thinking of um we're finalizing um the last bit of documents for um 626 Main Street, which is the improper Bostononian, that site for the improper improper Bostononian. And that's in I think it's Dennisport.
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And I I think there's six affordable units. I think there's 24 units in total. It's fascinating because um you know when you look at it from uh
Main Street, it looks like a small house almost, but it goes back. >> Huge. Yeah, >> it goes back. And the architecture is really great. It's owned by an architect and uh so it's it it looks really good. I think people are going to be
comfortable with the density there. So >> will the outside kind of h have be an homage to the old uh nightclub? >> No, I kind of I love that architecture of that building. Yeah, it was really cool. Uh so >> yeah, I'll have to I'll have to email
you the the the little elevations I have. >> Yeah, send it to all of us if you >> Yeah. Yeah. So it was in actually the benchmarking work. >> Oh >> uh that BSC brought up. >> Interesting. >> Yeah. They and uh yeah 626 Main Street.
So I will forward that. >> Um Mary, quick question on the ready renter. >> So every once in a while I'll hear an um part of like the news on one of the uh local radio stations and they mention call Mary Wagan. Does your does your
phone ring off the hook? I I not not that bad. Um we do get inquiries and I'm more than happy to talk to people. Most people have figured out to email me because then I can email back the PDF real quick. The other thing is people
have found the Massachusetts Housing Navigator. So they sign up. It's a it's a portal that the state funds. It's not owned by the state, but it's the Massachusetts Housing Navigator. They have a great
tech team there. You I send my flyer, they put it up. It has to be up there for 60 days. All new lotteryies have to be up there for 60 days and then it rolls over into like the weight list. You know what I mean? The property still
stays up there. So what happens is they if you go on that website, you go to the bottom and throw in your email for email notifications and people are getting every two to three weeks something from the navigator telling them, oh this
lottery, this weight list. So it's really helped with respect to foot traffic and phone calls and emails to me. >> Yeah. There's also information in the library I noticed. >> Yes. Yep. when I go to the library, there's always some information on housing right at the checkout counter.
>> Nice. >> So, it hasn't been that bad, but people are welcome to call and um >> I just know when I hear the ad, I go, "Oh, poor Mir." >> No, it used to be it used to be back in the day, right? Like even like like a
little bit before COVID, it was un I would dread putting that ad in the paper and sending out the press release because that'd be like that's all I would do all day. But it just seems that people are using their email more effectively and using that website because I post the application right
there as a PDF. And then Housing Assistance Corporation, boy, they have a portal that you can apply directly from their website. They don't even use paper anymore. >> They they'll accept paper, of course, but they're really they're really
amazing. It's it's like self-s serve affordable housing. It's great. Okay. >> Okay. Upcoming meetings. >> So, I wanted to know if you wanted to meet on the tw the 10th. It's in between. It's a it's the day before
Veterans Day. Um the 17th is TOW meeting. Um and the 10th is very bad for me. So, I want to take the day off. So, >> so if it's not the 10th, what's the other what what would be the alternative? Well, the 17th you have
town meeting and then the next week is Thanksgiving. So, I'm wondering if you want to take I think you can take November off. I think you can >> Okay, >> it's okay with me. >> How can you argue against such a cool idea skipping >> skipping November the entire month or just the meeting?
>> Automatically appeals to me, >> right? Because right, you have other things you could we November 4th is the board of selectman meeting. That's going to be >> a big deal. And then if you wanted to, you could go to the Z. I mean, if you really miss housing stuff, you can go to the ZBA on the 13th. And of course, town
meeting on the 17th. So, >> Oh, no meeting in November. >> No, I would love that. >> What would be the meeting date in December then? >> Um, >> December would be the 8th. >> I can do the eth.
>> You want you want to check with the people on on the uh Yeah, that's >> Yeah. Lee and Myra and Palm. Is December 8th good for you guys? >> Yes. >> Okay.
>> Did hear Lee say >> and we'll return to our uh regular time 3 p.m. >> Okay. >> December 8th, 3 p.m. >> All right. >> Thank you. >> I got to go down and see my mom. >> Do we need to vote on that? >> No, the chair can just cancel it.
>> Okay. >> Yeah. And >> wow, you have power. >> You are a very powerful man. That's power. >> All right, let's try. Do I have a motion? >> Absolute know. What's the expression? Uh >> I move we adjourn this meeting and discuss power after. >> I second it.
>> Okay, we have a a motion and a second. Uh roll call vote. Pal >> I. >> Lee >> I. >> Myra >> I. >> Greg >> I. >> Drew >> I. >> John yes. Dedra >> I. >> Okay.