Sorry, we were unmuted. >> Oh, we were muted. >> That's okay. Um, for open space and we're still waiting to see if somebody will be appointed for an atlarge member. So, we're only we have eight members currently out of the nine. Okay. Um, if you could just take a look
at the agenda, um, you'll see our meeting schedule planned out through November. Um, if we need to meet further on, we'll plan that in early November for January, but we have a lot of proposals to go through and then we'll have people come in and answer questions
and then we need to do our vote for a town meeting. So, >> and I go ahead. Yeah, I was just to add I have the Zoom booked and this room booked for all these dates, >> right? >> So, we we can cancel if we are so
inclined or if you feel like we're in good shape, we don't we can cancel them, but I wanted to make sure they were all >> great. Thank you, John Marie. Appreciate it. >> Um I would like to thank John Marie um for her support and professionalism and help
with all the intake, printing, and the packets for each of us. It's been quite a summer getting everything together. Um, just if everybody could be diligent when you get an email saying that there's stuff to be picked up, if you could pick it up and look at it to make
sure that you have information or you have questions prepared um for the meetings when we have them. And if you have questions that can't wait, please email Doron Marie and we'll try to get everything answered in advance if if need be. Okay. Um, I'd like to have our
conservation agent, Britney, join us now to discuss her application. So, if everybody could pull out that application from your packet, you had a chance to review the packet, but if not, um, this request is sponsored by conservation and will end
with proposed land acquisition for 3.2 2 acres um directly adjacent to the Taylor brake bottom in the yoga court um on Nottingham Drive. And so this parcel is currently um marked and recognized by the National Historic Commission and the
Char Commission and having historic resources and archaeological resources present as well as a wetland resource wetland buffer zone zone and is delineated as ideal habitat for adult marration. which is one of the goals in
the open space interface plan is for us to prioritize parcels that have that for acquisition. It has the potential to to be developed into three single family lots. Um and the appraised value was between that and
1.2 million across two appraisals and the request is for 600. So the negotiated value for a lot is 600,000 and then the 5,000 is just for the conservation restriction recording fees and all that. So
the timeline for this project is for this fall town meeting. Um and that's just based on the desires of the settler for it to be sold quickly. And we have letters and support from the open space committee conservation
historic succulent and the salt works code which is the neighborhood directly a 72 also adjacent to 30 acres of existing conservation on land will help with connectivity and habitat and we have applied for funding um from
three cash and I've applied for a land grant which is a reimbursement grant which can cover up to half of the value um but we won't know about that until just before. >> Um I think that about covers it. Any other questions? >> Debbie, do you want to start? Do you
have any questions? >> No. Nice job. [Music] >> David, >> no questions, but I will note that the historical commission was very enthusiastic about this project. It
helps you extend the effect has a lot of historical value. So >> great thank you Drew. No, I remember we got it from seems like it really doesn't
>> question about the uh the letter from the [Music] >> second concern regarding the driveway portion on the western side. Do you recommend consideration including the western corner of the lot?
>> Yes. As part as as part of the offer to purchase, it's been included. Um, so the agreement that's been signed by the town and the seller, there's been contingencies included in the offer to purchase which include or seller resolving the encroachment shown the driveway. >> So they'll resolve it by eliminating the
owner's person having them go back to the original. >> Okay. So who will own that? the town would own it. >> They would. Okay. >> So, it was not worth subdividing further. >> Yeah. Okay. >> So, we decided to include in the offer
to >> or just have have them resolve it so the town would have to >> where was because that was my question too. Sorry, Joan. Um, so where's the their original driveway entrance? Is it over by Taylor Barranom
Road? >> Okay. which is it does go through. >> Okay. But it is the assessed >> right >> okay so there if it's not >> another access
>> okay okay thank you >> I have another question >> yeah go ahead sorry >> also a couple of references to the archological value of this both for which that was like
approval is there any plan in about >> I'm searching correct >> I'm covering them not currently okay >> um so it's so it would be required to have a conservation restriction on it as all land acquisitions that are funded
through segate funds um so it would if that is to come up in the future I would be put it in the conservation restriction as an approved as long as they don't disturb too much area to be within the conservation
>> yeah okay All right, thanks. >> Thanks, Dr. >> Just a couple of questions. I noticed that the the other funding sources um I I would imagine that the free cash is
will be on this special town meeting agenda as well. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Um and is is that currently a line item anywhere in the capital budget now that you know of? Um I applied to the capital budget portals and so they reviewed the
capital items. My understanding that's so that in the federal budget world but they review them as part of capital as far as pre but what I'm watching with your county meeting is to have the acquisition and all funding a single article. Um so for
the town to approve vote to approve the acquisition and funding through CPA and free cash in a single article. So that's what we're saying. Okay. >> And the ultimate goal would be I've asked for the full amount for from from you all and pass the amount from free
cash. Um in the event that if I get the grant, I would return motion to attend to CCN. >> Oh, that means the land grant the 324,000. Should you receive that? >> I'll be notified of the award pretty much gave me the same week as town
meeting. So I will either know very shortly prior to town meeting or right after. >> Um so if if in fact we're you're successful in acquiring the grant that then would become a reimbursement to the CPA.
>> That's correct. >> Uh and not a reimbursement to the town. >> That's plan for >> Okay. So >> I want to make sure we make a note of that that that is the plan that the reimbursement would be to CPA funds. >> Yes.
>> Not to the general revenue fund of the thing. Okay. >> Yeah. We put that in the motion. >> Yeah. Um so um the the total negotiated cost for the property is what? >> 600.
>> It is 600. Okay. >> Right. Yeah. And the CR Yeah. >> Um and the the owner is in is on board with that number. >> Yes. So the the seller has signed an offer to purchase which is just town
council's way of putting our contingencies in a single document while they prepare the purchase and sales because I didn't have time to get together that whole thing when we wanted to get this on on record. Um so I have that offered to purchase. If you anyone wants to read it, I can provide it. Um,
but it just lists all the contingencies. They need a couple approvals. They need an ANR from the funding. >> So, they will be coming back with it for an ANR. Okay. Um, okay. That's that's all that's all I have.
>> Okay. Great. I'mma questions have already been asked. >> All right. Let me hand this out. take one and hand it down because I don't want to get deep in the weeds with the budget stuff quite yet. But this is the preliminary look at what
we have on hand and what is anticipated to come in. But right now, just focus on the FY26 rever reserves available for appropriation. That top
block. That's money that we have on hand currently, which is the money we'd be using for this article for the fall town meeting. All the stuff below, the FY27 revenue sources and appropriations, that's stuff
we'll talk about, you know, next meeting or when Jen comes to >> talk to but to us about budget. But for the land acquisition, I presume you'd like to know how much money is sitting in the bank right now. And that's that
top two numbers undesated 3,244,342 and open space 1,349,283. >> And would it be it's recommended that we take it out of open space or undesated? Does it matter? Do we just do open space? >> I don't know that it matters. I know
that Jen's >> Yeah, I'm trying to remember the conversation I had with Jen last year in terms of her >> looking to prioritize >> the order in which we grab money, >> which is to use I, if I understand correctly, to use what you have on hand,
then use your estimated revenues. Everything else goes into undesated, which you can spend on anything. >> Right. Right. Right. >> So, it kind of makes sense. um >> do the open space >> to to do the open space because
>> okay >> you can always like we did last year remember we made a 10% allocation to the open space reserve >> you can always do that too at town meeting >> if you don't have projects lined up and
you've got money you can throw it all into undesated or you can throw it into any other pot you want really. >> And from the information I've gleamed, um, I believe 2021 was the last time we had a land acquisition. Was it about
four years ago? >> It would have been >> Yanki Village. >> So, it's been a while. >> Higgins Road. >> Yeah. >> That's right. >> Okay. Yeah. >> And that was 2023, I think.
>> Yeah. I promise >> it's been a few years. >> Any any other questions, commentary for >> Britney? No. Are we ready for a vote or do people
need more time? Oh, we're ready for vote. We're good. Okay. I think the one thing we need to come to agreement on is which pot we want to use. I think that has to
be in the motion if I'm >> right >> not mistaken. >> Yes. >> I mean, we could always change it between now and special time meeting if Jen thinks >> if we're advised, right? >> Yeah. Right. >> We could case and
according to how I heard you talking about it, we would say we'll we'll use the open space money that we have on hand. >> Yeah. This motion today. >> What I would do Yep. to start out and um >> to at least get let her get the wheels going for time
>> to get it on tomorrow and we can we have a meeting next week. We can always amend it, you know. >> Yes. Say >> the articles are due on September 30th, >> but I imagine I would have to edit from the floor anyway if I have a price like
if I get the grant, they'll change the values, right? So, okay. >> Value is not a big deal to change. Okay. solid >> and and that's the thing. There's there's money in the open space reserve
>> right now to be used and when money comes back which it most likely will from either free cash or from um land grant um it will go back into the open space reserve. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> So right now we come out of the million
free. >> Yes. >> Yeah. Any other questions, discussions? If I could have a motion then to allocate the money and any restrictions we want to put on reimbursement back test.
>> Uh the the only other thing we add is the length of time. Um it's typically two or three years that it would have to be executed. Um, but I'm imagining >> it's a it's a rush now. >> So, when you get the letter, it will say probably three years. That's our
average. We'll just keep it at three just in case. >> Standard. >> Oh, yeah. >> It's specifically stated that. [Music] >> Yeah. so that it's impedance.
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Can somebody make a motion? >> Up to second. Okay. Um and >> it will come from open space.
Did you? >> Could I have a second? >> Yeah, we did. >> Oh, sorry. >> Any other discussion? Do we need to put any um language in about reimbursement coming back >> subject?
to >> provide any view to CPA. >> Thank you. >> Thanks, David. Okay. Any discussion on the motion?
We will have a vote. Deb >> I David. >> Hi. >> Drew. >> Paul. >> Hi. >> Hi. >> Judy. Hi. All right. So, thank you. This was great.
>> I will try to get you at least a transcript of the minutes next week so that that can believe it's really true. >> Okay. Okay. Um so check that. >> So that >> so next we're good. Next next on the
agenda is um we have had um four requests from uh organizations chunk departments that have received funds from this committee in the past. >> There's another ticket >> and they have not been used. So we're going to go through each one. Um I'm
going to go through each one and then sort of go back and we can vote each one separately. Yes or no? Um what what we want to do. >> Go ahead. >> I was going to say here's a little table I made.
>> Hopefully it is consistent with what you discovered as well. >> Yep. Okay. So the first the first request is um from the town records preservation retention and management. >> It was awarded in spring of 2021 for
$150,000. it has not been used. Um, and she would really like to even though it's been four years, um, keep it. And I think they're saying that they're going to push to get it done
sooner now rather than waiting another period of time. >> Is this a request by um, >> yes, >> the letter? Yeah. So, all of these just didn't get to use the
money in the appropriate time. As we just stated, it's usually three years they get to use their funds. And these four um groups did not. So, they would like to keep the money rather than us saying, "Oh, your three years is over and we're going to take the money back
and put it back in our funds," which sometimes happens, >> right? So, you know, roll it to the to the next year's appropriation. >> So, that's the first one. The second one is um pay playhouse res preservation
um that was awarded in 2021 for $65,000. The third one is the Yarmouth Historical Commission, a Yarmouth Archaeological Renaissance Reconnaissance Survey. Um they believe that the um staff person
now can help get that going and and moving. they just didn't have the volunteers and the manpower to get it done before, but they would really like to continue it. It's important to their to them. And then Forward at the Rock phase 2 um was awarded in 2023
for $180,000 and that is um homes up off of um Hokam Rock in Dennis for uh adults with disabilities. Um I believe there's already a section the home that has was built a few years ago that they're using and this would be
phase two >> um that they're now ready to um embark upon. So if you want to take a minute to look at what Don Marie uh put in the packet and then we'll go around see questions or I was just going to say I
wonder if that historic archaeological reconnaissance survey would include the parcel. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Oh, okay. Well, there's lots of evidence up there. >> I I have one question. The records
preservation. >> Yes. >> What category did that rest in? historic preservation and that's one of those slippery areas where but it's been kind of vetted through the coalition that
it's it qualifies as historic preservation even though some could claim it's kind of an operating expense. >> It was approved. So, I didn't think about this. Yes, you may.
>> Don't be sorry. Go ahead. >> They've already expired. >> You have to press an exception prior to expiration. Yeah, tech. Yeah, technically they are supposed to request it before it expires. Yes. >> I think uh I think Forward at the Rock
is kind of breaking ground this week or next week. I think the Cape Playhouse is starting up on their project in the next month or so. >> We've been working on it bit by bit. Yeah. I think this is to finish up. I think um
maybe just approach each individually and take a look at the letter and the rationale for why they want the extension, you know, and um you know, for example, I guess starting with Mary,
it seemed and again, you know, I would have to read it over more carefully, but um seems they ran into some problems um because they didn't have anybody at It says review documents currently out in the old water department and so on. Now
they seem to have people in place. Um and this has been going on since when was the first >> 21 >> 21. >> So it's been four years. >> Um I mean if they have people in place then you know I guess you know just speaking
for myself I be in favor of taking her at her word and say yeah they can do this. But, you know, the thing is that it's um disconcerting in a way or disappointing that this money has been tied up for so long and there's a part of me that says, "Well, why don't you
just apply again, you know, because um other folks might come forward and it might be some worthwhile thing that would require would be um benefit from the funds available." Um so, that's one
of the thoughts I had. I mean, I guess I I trust her. She seems like a very nice lady and and she says she has, but >> could it be reflected somehow in the decision that you know what, okay, but don't do this again. Yeah.
>> So, if she applied, she wouldn't be able to apply till 2026 and she would um if approved get her money in town meeting of 2027, >> which is fine, but I'm just saying that's the because we our deadline is our >> Yeah, it's closed. Hold that.
>> What's the uh >> Go ahead. >> Give an extension. What's the time? >> That's up to us, >> right? That would that's a way of disciplining it, right? like is extended for x amount of time here one year I don't I never did it
>> what what's your practice >> has what's has it >> usually it's based on the the request that they've made did she give a >> I think she did she knew >> timeline >> how often does this happen though with the committee
>> uh not really well no I would say maybe one a year >> okay >> um but usually you know that usually the project is already in process. >> It really doesn't happen that frequently that nothing has happened at all. And
>> so we basically have two questions to answer as we go around. Do we do we want to offer any extensions at all or do we want to just tell everybody your time is expired reapply for you know with the deadline of September 2026 for town
meeting of 2027 and let them do it that way or do we go through each one and say okay we'll do this one but not this one we'll do that one and then what's the the third thing I guess is the time limit do we put a one year two-year do they go back to three years because not three years they're out to 2028 and if
they don't use the money Again, it's now 7 8 years that that money's been tied up. So, just things to think about. >> Theoretically, you write a letter to Mary Meslowski and say, "What ex when are you going to be able to do this, >> right?"
>> Before we make a decision, you could do that, >> right? >> Yes. We don't have to vote on these today, right? There's no need to >> I already said a little bit of course, >> but it seems to me that they would have to be um
considered indiv individually. >> Okay. >> We're going to vote on each one. Yes, I had planned to vote on each one individually. I mean, if we have questions like we do for a regular proposal, we can let Don Marie know and have the answers next week and then vote on if we wanted to vote on let's say one
today and the other three we have questions and then look at it for next week. That's that's also fine. >> Okay. >> Sure. >> So, do we want to for let's start with this one then. Do we have questions for the town clerk that we would like her to
answer and then we can vote um next week on it if we want to continue and for how long? So Paul, your questions are does she have the staff? >> Well, she kind of addressed some important >> but how long >> point one is but we added two full-time
employees. So what I'm trying to say is that she's indicated certain things that might give us confidence in terms of ability to get this thing done quickly and maybe within a one year time frame something along that line that's unrealistic and then the other thing is
>> what time frame >> he's also preparing scope of work with the IT department and maybe the IT department is a little more effective than it look two years ago >> maybe there are a couple of things that came out another year >> okay >> okay so we'll find out from her how long
>> yeah just my opinion No, I think in this in this particular case and I think this is different than the others. Um really nothing has been done. Um and I have a question as to preparing a scope of work for what
>> and is that scope of work going to be different than what the original application >> was that was approved >> and is it going to be an RFP that goes out to a consultant for 150,000? So, >> okay. >> Uh maybe Mary could join us.
>> Yeah, >> very good. >> Maybe next or whenever if she could join us that would be >> because other questions might create >> other questions. >> Right. Yeah. >> Okay. >> So, I recommend we hold on this one.
Debbie, questions for the town clerk? >> Nope. >> Right. We'll have her in. David, anything? Okay. >> All right. So, that's good. I will let her know that you'd like her to come and be prepared to answer a couple of questions about the timeline and the
scope of work. >> Next week, >> can you Dr. Can you pull out the original application and get that to us? >> Um because I don't think any of us were on the committee in 2020. >> I wasn't. Probably not. Right.
>> You might have been Could you dig through your records and see if >> Yeah, that was like >> Yeah. Yeah. All right. So, we'll hold her up till >> Okay. >> visits then. Um the second one is the Cape Playhouse.
Also on this one, it looks like their their their deadline was May 2024. Is that >> Well, that's when they anticipated to be done, but the contract >> they ended up I think having more once they started repairing and doing there
were more issues than they anticipated. >> Yeah. >> And um because they have replaced a bunch of the shingles on the outside. They have done a bunch of stuff inside. Um I think I'm guessing and again we can have her come in um Nora as well to come
in and and talk about but from the letter it >> he does give specific dates here >> plan to be commen next month >> within weeks and has even has a completion date >> the end of the year specified. So that's
a little more specific, >> right? >> It looks like they had to do internal repairs for the rigging on the stage versus So they had to get funds for that. That had to be done before they could do some of the other stuff. I think they put in AC >> or something. Yeah.
>> So um which makes a huge difference in the summer. >> Yeah. Um so >> yeah, commence next month and then so we could again we can ask questions. we can have her come in. Um, we can limit
instead of three years, do one year if they're planning to start soon to finish the outside work. >> So, they have to put a hold on the outside work because they have the television. >> Yes. >> That's from what I understand from the letter. Yeah.
Do does the committee is the committee interested in having her come talk next week or do you have enough information here? For me, my intuition is say you have we'll give you an extension of one year. >> Okay. >> Right. So, we need to find out when it
it expired because if it expired a year ago, >> we'll need to make an extension of two years. So, good point. >> Whatever. >> Oh, whatever you could give or you could give it in 2021. So, it expired in 2024. >> So, what giving a date for the
extension, >> right? 2026 or January 30th 20 or March 2026. I don't know. >> Right. I when I write the contracts, I usually Well, I allow usually six months because we do reimbursements. So, you
have to allow them to get the >> Yeah. >> canceled checks back so they can give them to me >> so that we can get them their reimbursement. >> Um, and then I also always plan that there's going to be a three-month delay due to weather. Okay. So,
>> you're right. Yeah. >> Oh, that's right. New England. >> This is the work. It's not just a fantasy world. >> So, if you could say they're anticipating to be complete by December 31st, 2025, you could say an extension till June 30th, >> the end of the fiscal year. That makes
sense. >> Their original um the amount of time provided the original uh application was >> three years. three years >> because um he says our original timeline anticipated started October 23 to
completion in May 2024. Was that within that three year time? >> It would have been because the contract when I you know write the contract and load it into the system if their uh finish date was May of 2024 then I would have added six months onto that. So it
would have been >> December 23. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Something like that. Yeah. >> of 2024. >> Okay. So, I'm not going to do a vote right now, but people are thinking maybe extend them till June 30th, 2026.
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Right now. Okay. >> The next one is the historical commission, the archaeological dig. >> Any um >> Sorry to interrupt. No, go ahead, Judy. But don't do we do we is there some
reason we don't want to take action on this today? >> Oh, we we can. I just wanted to go through them and then we can go back and vote, right? >> In case something else comes up. >> Yep. >> I >> um historical who's is that >> David? David
question. Yeah. As far as I recall, I don't have the minutes available. As far as I recall, the delay around the project was for the town. >> Okay. >> Will yield a lot of important
information. Things like what archaeological sites are available that should be further. Okay. >> So, uh they requested the commission requested through this time in 2027.
>> Okay. Thank you. >> Um questions on this one right now >> on the >> Yeah. Do we want anybody to come in? Are we comfortable with what they're asking for? So um they would be extended
through 2027 which would be two years from now. >> Yeah. Given that that's co >> they and they didn't have the staff. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I I remember putting together >> everybody all set with this particular
proposal. Okay. Um, executive director David Kaplan on the forward, friends of or relatives with autism and related disabilities. >> You know, he's requesting a specific thing. It's kind of good. >> Mhm. I think this is pretty straightforward.
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. The back the back page is like the press release that they put out. >> So they're, you know, >> they're really well organized. They are >> there plenty of funds from other towns
and >> um again they're just it's construction. It's behind >> yes. >> Yeah. Any other We don't need to have him in there. We've got the information. >> Okay.
>> All right. Good. So wonder why Nash was the only town that didn't you notice that clue? beyond our our our role and responsibility. >> So, for the first um request for
extension, town clerk, we'll have Mary come in next week, answer our questions. If you have more questions, um I just ask if you could get them to Dawn Marie by Monday so that Mary can prepare. I there's nothing worse than blindsiding somebody with questions and the
information somewhere else so they have to gather it. So if you have any other questions beyond what we've discussed if you could please forward that to Don Marie that would be greatly appreciated and um we'll have Mary next week. Okay. Agreed. um tape tape playhouse.
Do we feel like we should we could have a vote on that with their um extension to end June 30th, 2026? Their extension. Go ahead, Drew. >> Try to formulate such a motion.
>> Would you like to make a motion? approve an extension for the auod center for the arts until wow if look at this right at the top I hadn't read this before they're requesting an extension
until March 31st 2026 >> we're going to put it to June just to give them extra time for reimbursement >> notice that >> uh I move that we approve an extension request from Cape Cod Center of the Arts until June 30th 2020 26.
>> Thank you. Do I have a second? >> Second. >> Thanks, J. Any further discussion on Cape Cod Center for the Arts? >> Okay, we'll do a roll call. Joan, >> hi. >> Paul, >> hi. >> David, >> I
>> Debbie, I Judy, I can get a seat. It's the It's the little slant in the balcony that that gets everybody every single time when you walk into your chairs. Okay. Um the historical
commission for the archaeological survey grant. Any other questions? Are we ready for a motion on this one? >> Yes. >> Yes, I think we are. >> Can somebody I'd appreciate if somebody would make a motion for this one.
>> Yeah. make a motion that we um approve the request for an extension for the archaeological survey. Um what would it be? >> They have July 27. They would like >> um so what is that appropriate date?
July. You want to go farther than that? >> Do you want to do December? >> Yeah. You want to say December? That' be >> till December 20th. >> December 2027. >> That sounds better. >> Could I have a second, please? Thanks, Drew. Any further discussion?
>> Joanne, >> hi. >> Paul, >> hi. >> Drew, >> David, >> and Judy I. Great. Thank you all very much. Last one is um forward at the rock phase 2. Um they are looking for an
extension to June of 2026, but we would like to do it till December for reimbursement. December. >> Yeah. >> Of 2026 for reimbursement. >> Any other questions on this one? >> We're good. Could I have a motion,
please? >> To move forward on that extension of would you say 12 >> December 20 26? >> 26. >> 26. >> 2026. >> Y. >> Thanks to Could I have a second, please?
>> Thanks, Julie. Any other discussion, questions? Okay. Joanne vote. >> Hi. >> Paul, >> hi. >> R. >> Hi, >> David. >> Debbie and Judy. Thank you all very much. >> Thanks, Britney. >> Thank you.
>> Have a good day. >> Bye, Britney. >> Okay. >> That's gone later. Extension requests are done. >> Y Oh, so we could go back to
>> I was going to We've got um the rest of it, but then we can go through start going through the proposals if we have time. >> Okay. You want to do it that way? >> Yeah. Yep. >> That's okay. >> Just take it because we don't have minutes, so we should have time. Um each
year, um the committee is a member of the community preservation coalition for the state and the each community receives a notice on dues. Our annual membership dues for this year is $4,350.
Um it's a if you don't pay it, you just don't get the benefits of belonging and the information that they provide and the um knowledge and showing you what other towns are doing. The dues is based on what we collect from this each um
real estate tax bill. So if you have higher income, your dues are going to be a little bit higher. There's a whole formula on their website if you're interested. Um, so do we need a vote? Do we pay? We do. Okay. So, questions about
the It's something that's been done >> for years. >> Any questions on paying the dues 4,000? >> Yeah. Always seems like something people want to do here. >> Okay. Could I have a motion to pay the
community preservation coalition dues? >> I make a motion to >> Thank you. >> application I mean dues. Thank you very much. Could I have a second, please? >> Any other further discussion or commentary? All right, we'll take a vote. Deb
Debbie, >> David, >> hi. >> Drew Paul. >> Hi, >> Joey. Hi, >> and Judy. I >> What was the amount again? >> 4,350. >> Does that come out of CPA funding? Yeah. Yeah. The administr
Yeah. Okay. Um, we have just sketch in my notes. Um, we are the town is getting has hired a new community development director. Her
name is Megan Eldridge. She currently is the assistant town administrator in Harwitch for the last 11 years. Debbiey's shaking her head. She must be a dynamo. Yes, >> she is. She's very good. Okay. She's very, very good. And >> she lives in Yarmouth. Yeah. >> Oh, okay.
>> What's her name? >> Uh, Megan. M E G G A N Eldridge >> with an E. >> Double G. >> E L D R E D G E >> with two G's. Yep.
>> Yep. So, she'll start um the end of this month, early October. We're going to invite her to our October 8th meeting to just come meet us and talk for a little bit. Um, so we can get to meet her as well. And I'm sure she'll be attending
meetings and in and out, but I figured the first was a little too soon. >> Yeah. >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Because Karen left um in the spring and she's part-time. Is she still parttime here or is she done?
>> No, yesterday was her last day. Yeah. >> Okay. >> She was working part-time um in the transition over. So, um, but Megan will be invited to our October 8th meeting. So, if you have a question like, is that correct?
>> Well, the new assistant town administrator is going to start on November 3rd. >> So, we do have a separate a separation between those two roles. >> Yeah. >> Um, yeah. She's uh Amy Vuli Vuli who has
been the I think assistant town administrator in Franklin. Um but she lives on the Cape. >> She just got married, I believe. >> And she's I think that's why it's November. She's getting married and going on her honeymoon and then she's gonna >> She is so start here. >> Smart.
>> Good. >> She's gonna I met her. So I, you know, at one of the selections meeting we had my picture taken with her and she's just so nervous, you know, talking to her and everything and she's really on the ball
and can't wait, you know, which is nice. And what I've been told is it's going to be a more traditional um hierarchy than when Bill Scott was here because he kind of had some very specific goals particularly around the
sewer funding and um didn't really necessarily fit the traditional again position job description kind of thing. So, now that we've got substantial progress on the sewer, um Amy will be more traditional, whatever that may
mean. And >> and uh Megan will be, I guess, a traditional comb director, >> whatever that mean. >> Whatever that may mean. >> We'll find out. >> Remember, I came on full-time March of 2020, so
>> it was great meeting everybody then, right? >> Yeah. For five minutes. Okay, we'll see you after it's over. >> All clos that was working on. So the other company begins with now. Um Ravoli. >> Yes.
>> Well, yeah. >> They'll I guess finish their contract and apparently according to select board meeting last night, we're in litigation with them. So that'll drag on for years. But >> would you watch this one with me? Okay. Yeah.
>> Uh but yeah, they'll be done I guess at the end of this year and the next contract was awarded to Dig It. So Raoli will be >> okay >> for the super Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Great. Thanks everybody. Um I'm going to
just do committee member updates and then um it's not quite four. We'll have time to start going over just briefly re not review in any depth but just look at what we have for our 10 proposals and what dollar amount. We're also going to
plan in October to have the finance director come in >> and go through. She'll have a better idea then of monies um what that we have and she's great about telling us again which funds to use, whether we should do undesated or open or split it half and
half, whatever. She's I mean her grasp of that is is great. I found very informative last spring. Um so she'll be invited in October as well. I I don't want to have her too soon. So, probably mid end of October um so that we can get
through the proposals. Once we um review the proposals and we have questions um same thing as with the town clerk, Don Marie will contact whoever whatever the group is. Hey, here are the questions or they would like you to come in and talk to the group. Um and then we'll just do
we'll have specific days where we'll do one, you know, one interview after another with questions that we may have >> about the proposal. So mark up your proposal. You got enough packets. Um mark them up, highlight them, whatever. I use multiple multiple colored
highlighters and pens when I was doing mine. And then I got lost and went, "What was that speculation that?" Um but there's plenty of written notes. So we'll go around and just do uh member updates. Debbie, anything from Rick or
anything in general? >> No, I'm I'm going to be appointed for a year. >> Okay. um they have someone that's um in the medical field that wants to come board and like what's Joyce turned around said you're going to be here every year every
year. So I wouldn't okay the appointment so I'm good. >> Okay great Drew Housing Authority is getting a new member. It's been appointed by Governor Healey. That's going to improve our
functioning from very spotty functioning due to lack of harms >> to good functioning. >> Good. >> Okay. >> That'll be an interesting upgrade in how it operate. >> So, is there a search on for a member or they've got somebody and you just
haven't met them yet? >> Okay. Okay. >> I didn't has been appointed as of yesterday. >> Oh, great. >> Yeah. Good. Okay. But the rest of you all elected, >> uh, three are elected. One is appointed by the state and that
just happened yesterday, >> right? >> And there's there's another member that uh is supposed to be a tenant representative. There's a very complex law on that and we haven't been able to find a tenant
representative quite yet. So there's four active members at the moment. Yeah. >> Great. Okay. David, >> historical commission is is looking for another member or two and um we're busy
with a lot of different um applications. We've got a few of the usual demolition permit >> before us at the moment. And uh on the side of that, we're working hard on
beginning to plan events around the 250th anniversary of Yarmouth independence day. >> Yarmouth declared independence when 20th. We're we're planning on June 20th of
2026 to unveil our revolutionary foreign monument and also sort of have a program there probably in the morning at Thatcher Park up on 6A and then unveil the monument and then move to the uh ancient cemetery and have a ceremony
around the identification of I think some 53 Yarmouth residents whose graves are there who served in the revolution. And there there will be some markers installed by that time to those grave sites and assume a ceremony around those
things. So mark your calendars. >> Yeah, that would be great. >> Great local independence. >> Yeah. >> A week and a half, I guess. >> Well, there's a there's a beautiful new
monument being built, Debbie, by company called Skylight who are a mover and it's going to be a very large granite thing with 50 some odd yarn residents who participated in the revolution. >> Wow. and striking design that's been
presented at meetings. >> We'll see on the top of it a statue of a colonial family preparing for the opening. >> That's cool. >> Totally incredible. I know John Marie went to get the
picture of the of the monument. Yeah. So >> I know um recreation redid that park in in honor of Brett Der. >> Yes. Yeah. Beautiful park. >> Yeah. So that's the front and then that's the back. >> Awesome.
>> This will be in the middle park is a triangle and sharpest point on the north end of the >> by the cemetery >> after the basketball court. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. much credit. >> That is like totally you see this
>> I thought yeah >> beautiful >> and it's a great park. It's used by a lot of people but I think this will this will educate and add so much to the young families that use it because right now you you have the stone up front and you have the you know who it's
designated but not everybody necessarily goes up by 6A. They're at the playground and the basketball court and >> they're on the grass and stuff. So >> yeah, when we dedicated this to Fred, >> you know Fred that? >> Yeah. >> Um was my stone good friend and we we
ordered like these ceramic looked like the old park that was there >> and we gave them to the thatch. We gave them to everybody. I just finished giving Gail stone like 150 of them myself. I said take them. I don't need it. No.
>> So, but good for you. >> It's great. Thank you. >> I've been making a lot of efforts to involve scouts and school kids. So, it'll have a great educational >> I'm the Girl Scout contact.
>> Oh, fantastic. >> So, >> what what is this? >> I think it is Saturday. >> Yeah. Oldfashioned. Yeah, it's a Saturday right there.
>> Do you know what time? >> Probably start at 10 a.m., but we're still working on that. >> Okay. >> Let's see what's going to be. Well, you can't call it by centennial. I know there's a word for centennial. >> Yeah, I'm not going to try to
call it 250th anniversary because we were very involved in that. Yeah, >> great. Anything else or >> That's it. >> Great. Thank you very much, Joanne. >> Uh yeah, so planning board is um uh finally going to land the plane. I hope
um our local comprehensive plan, the final draft is out. It was up for public comment for a month. We then took whatever comments came in. Um and there were some uh really good ones, so we made some adjustments. Uh so this is the final
draft that will be um um presented at the at a public hearing on October 1st, >> which is a week from today. >> A week from today. So there's a public hearing um it'll be the final opportunity
uh before town meeting um to to comment. >> And what time is that? >> At 5:30. >> 5:30. Uh and many of the committees that you represent were very helpful to us early on in terms of um we had meetings with
you. Um uh all of the various committees, the capital budget committee, um uh finance committees as we went through this. So um it's been a a a process where we tried to, you know, engage as many as many parties as we
could. We think we did a a pretty good job of it. Um Kathy Williams, our town planner, was just remarkable. Um there's no other way to describe her. Um true. >> Uh and we had a very big consultant on BSC consultants. Um, and we see a lot of
them at planning board because they do a lot of the surveys and property work and and um, so we see them, but they have also main offices in in Boston and Worcester and their planning arm is what um, helped us with this. So we think
it's a pretty comprehensive document and we're hoping that it'll be successfully approved at time. >> And what does that give us access to in the end? Oh, well, the reason we do it, I mean, that's the that's a that's the you know,
why why do you have a plan? Well, we have a plan to because it's a good thing to do for town leadership and for the citizens of town to have a say in what the direction of development, the direction of of um uh services, the
direction of changes in zoning as an example, where we want to, you know, look forward in the next 10 years. Um but this document also has um a regulatory uh component to it where you re the town
cannot apply for grants. All of these grants that you various groups are working on, you can't apply for it unless you have a local comprehensive plan that's approved by the town and by the Cape Cod Commission. So that's that certification process is a legal one um
and a very important one and it just benefits any application that we put forward um for any kind of degree. So that's the the the one of the uh primary primary benefits and it provides a good um kind of marching orders for the
select board in terms of priorities and the like. So >> and it's and it can be updated and changed and adjusted as we go through it. Um, it's meant to be a fairly dynam dynamic document. >> Is it 10 years? A plan for 10 years >> approximately 10 years.
>> How long is that done? >> Well, the last one we did was in 2013, so we're a little bit behind. Um, and we can blame co on that, >> but we that and that was the that might
have been the second one, but that certainly was the most comprehensive one and it was I don't know if we have the bindings in here, but it it was three binders full. Um, so we've moved down to about 150 pages and >> all right,
>> but the the the juice of it is really at the very end where we've identified um all of these action items in various categories and a time frame and who's responsible for them. Um, and one of the things that keeps this alive is that the
planning board will be reviewing progress on this at least once a year to see where we are on all of these things that we said we're going to do. Are we still are we still looking at them? Have we added? Have we deleted a real man?
>> Yeah. >> Well, thanks to the planning board, too, for that. It's a lot of work. >> So, that's anything else. That would be that's in my that's in my list. >> What do you do with all your spirit?
>> Great. Thank you very much. >> Is there anything else right now before we take a little bit of time to go through the proposals just sort of stand them? >> Yeah, she's great. Yeah, she's been great. applications and issues. There's a lot
of public involvement regarding some of those things and um so I think the committee does it best to adhere to the land m >> stuff around us and um so
I think it's an effective and uh effective committee and a responsible committee as far as >> and she's great to work with. Yeah. Oh, she's >> Yeah. >> I can't even imagine how anybody could be so smart, but you know,
>> true stuff. >> Yes. >> Not to go on about, but there's a lot of complications. Um and and uh she has the answers and if she doesn't have an answer, she'll let you know about it. She'll go get it.
Provide not only you but whoever the applicant is for something or whatever. So we're very very fortunate to have them. >> Yeah. >> In there with us with her. >> Do you have anything else? >> I do not.
>> Okay. Um the minute meeting minutes we we don't have today. will um have them at the next meeting. Don Marie will send them out for your review um from April and June. And if there's nothing else, I would like to just look at briefly
um our proposals that we're going to be going more in depth on this year. >> Yeah, no problem. Y um I appreciate this lovely graph of
you know what's um affordable housing, what's recreation at a glance, >> what Yeah, it's just it's been very helpful. >> Um >> just so we can keep track of Yep. You
can make note Yeah. commentary so that when we do go over that >> it should have been and then attached with that was the uh information on historic preservation >> so I yeah
>> that's it could you make copy that for me >> so if we to start. We'll look at um the Haritch Ecumenical Council for the Homeless, HHCH. Um I do believe this is one that um they they've asked the last couple of years
for if I'm correct. >> More than more than >> Yeah, it's been a while. Okay. So their proposal um is for homes that need repair for income
eligible homeowners. Um they work with the contractors. Um it's a loan. Um the loan is then placed on the house so it can't be sold without repaying it back. it comes off of the price. Um so that
the money gets reinvested back into the fund. Um and reading through um it seems like they have a a a very good process of picking out homeowners that need it. They work with local uh committees and
um town groups to see who might be eligible and and needing work. Um, we'll see any if anybody's select. We're going to go more in depth over the next meeting or two, but they're asking for
300,000 for the house uh housing emergency loan program and then 60,000 to cover a portion of the expenses necessary to actually run the program, the 360 total. Okay. It seems pretty. They've done it
for a bit, so they're pretty. >> Have they always >> I think it's gone up, hasn't it? >> I think it has. >> Let's look at um my master sheet here.
Let's see this 2023. They asked for $120,000. Again, they got slowed down during um CO because nobody wanted to really have people coming and going in their homes. >> And if you remember there, uh Mary Wagan
came in and made some like requests for extensions and uses >> to kind of use up whatever was in the bank. I think she needed an extension for one of their contracts. And then that's why I think 2023 came in
at 120,000 because they had been using up residual funds that hadn't been spent during co >> and yeah we could we could do all of that time that would be something just make a
comparison because I know they're always they always make requests and it all seems to go through pretty useless. >> Yeah. because it's important. >> Okay. >> Go ahead, Joan. One of one of the questions I I'll I'll shoot this your
way when the time comes for them to come in and see us. The repayment of the loan. I'm curious as to how that comes back to us. Um, and how much has been how much has been borrowed and how much has been repaid. >> I think it goes back to their fund
like it goes back to them. It doesn't come back to us as a committee. Does it it goes to them I believe >> and I think because that is a question that I had for Mary Wagan as well >> reimbured to the town of Yarmouth for reinvestment in the program so it goes
back into the their fund um to be used back into West Pharaoh but we don't get our money backs >> they just because it could be 20 or 30 years for this 360 >> um to be repaid >> but I had um talked with Mary And I
because because I was curious too how much has been repaid. Okay. And how was it used? Okay. This is I mean we come up with other
questions and concerns as we go through it over the next week or so. So don't feel like this is your only chance. I just wanted to take a quick peek at some of these. um the Habitat for Humanity of Cape Cod. Um they're looking right
across the street um to put in six um affordable single family homes. It will be across the street in front of Simpkins Field at that point. There's um they bought property there and they're
looking for um $180,858. And it was that land you can see in the additional funding column. Um they got help from the affordable housing trust to buy the land and um you know how Habitat works. They've got lots of labor and material
donations um because that's pretty pretty small request, >> right? a safety team along the way another time. I mean, this is the first time they came.
>> No, the last development they had in Yarmouth was Virginia A over in West Yarmouth. >> Talking maybe >> that was probably they got CP CPA funded the affordable housing trust and the
affordable housing trust is using the money to buy the land. So, I think that's probably where we were talking about it. So right now um it looks like four homes will be set aside for local preference, three for local preference and one for veteran preference.
Um they all will be Yarmouth residents. Um and again we can come up with questions and commentary. Um as we go through this they'll pick um they'll have a drawing
where they'll pick the families and then the families help in the build. >> It's usually a pretty good um >> community project, you know. Oh yeah. Plus where where is the 476?
>> That is well that's in their application. So that from the application >> maybe in their budget. Oh yes, other funding FHLBB grant
for 240,000 construction funding for 111,000 and anonymous donor for 125. Does that come up to >> of their application, David? >> Yeah, it does.
>> 3514. >> That's the affordable housing trust. That's that's an annual um request that they asked and so we gave them money and then they helped Habitat buy the land. They used the money to buy the land. So we're just throwing it in there that
that that's other monies that they're getting either funding from other places to help um establish the project. Yeah. >> I'm just curious. >> I don't think it was all our funds. We can go back though and see what we
gave AHT to where Mary would have the answer. >> Yeah. I don't know where else they get money really. >> Is it all comes from? >> Okay, everybody good for the time being? >> Yep.
>> Okay. Hands of hope. Um, another one that's an annual request. They provide financial assistance to prevent eviction or help secure leases. Um, provide that that income. Um, again,
they've been doing it for quite a while. uh we can have them come in. They're asking for $45,000. Um 35 would be eviction prevention. Um 10,000 for financial assistance for first and last month's rent for
long-term lease and then 500 administration fees um to help out for financial assistance. So 45,000 >> question that always comes up with this one is why don't they ask for more? >> The answer is always because they don't
have enough people, >> right? >> They only have one full-time person. Everybody else is volunteers. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Notice this line where it said over 37% of all hands of hope housing assistance
come from residents. It says this is a 7% increase over last year >> jump down. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So again, we can have them in if we would like more information. Uh
they anticipate 45 Yarmouth residents will receive eviction prevention and assistance for the first and last month's rent in fiscal year 27. Fiscal year 27 starts July 26. >> July 1. Yep. Of 26. Okay.
Anything huge stand out or you can just go? The next one is the affordable um housing trust. Um Mary usually comes in, Mary Wiggins who helps run these programs um will come in and any questions we have, we just um give money
to the trust for them to use and disseminate out. >> Go ahead, Paul. >> It's worthwhile to have her come in because well, >> do we want to have her in next week if she's available or
Does it matter to anybody in what order people come in? Okay. You want to see when she's available? >> And again, if you're going to have specific questions based on looking at the application, if you could get them to John Marie in advance so she can have
the answers for us that day, which probably already has in her head, but >> because I'll just say the first application is straightforward. their annual request for general deposit into their trust fund. >> The second request is to repurpose funds
um that they have sitting in the bank that were used or designated to be used for the afford for the buy down program which is no longer viable because the property values have skyrocketed. It's just not a practical program anymore.
Um, so that's why they're asking to actually repurpose the funds um to include um use and acquisition and construction of mixeduse rental housing. >> So she explained it very thoroughly, but
>> like Lee, I'm on the community housing committee. >> Yeah. >> And there's a lot of activity on Route 28 trying to make this happen mixed use >> thing. So it's eminently sensible. to repurpose the money.
>> And the buy down program, if I have it right in my head, was more um to get houses that could be affordable for the next buyer, but there would be a restriction date on it. Correct. Right. They would pay a certain amount in to get the price down.
>> So then they could Okay. And it's just not feasible anymore. >> Right. Because if the average home is Yeah. $500,000 you buy it down $200,000 still $300,000 is not really that affordable. >> Yeah.
>> Anything big stand out for either one for Mary? >> I mean I'm I'm not expecting questions all the questions today. They'll be as we go along, but just if there's anything big.
Okay. Um the next one is the packet landing from the Department of Natural Resources. >> If I if I go ahead just raise a quick question in terms of um how we want to I
mean in the past I think we've tried to group the housing >> discussions into a couple of meetings. Mhm. >> Um and it's usually driven by when the applicant is available. So um I'm not
sure how we want to go forward with with you. I'm done recalling everybody and seeing who we can who you can get for next week and then you know maybe the following week. So the first >> you want to look at maybe housing first two meetings housing >> the first and the eighth.
>> I tried to keep them together. it. Sometimes it doesn't work because of the the applicants just aren't just >> right. I think it's probably would work because of course Mary is here so she's usually available. >> That's two of them
>> and um she works so closely with HC and Hands of Hope that you know I think that they could get in as well >> alto together and I don't think I don't think it'd be like an overly burdensome meeting >> at all. Um I do think Habitat should
have their their own kind of chunk of time because it is an you know it's an important project. >> Um >> maybe if we could do a Hatch hands of hope and the Affordable Trust on one day and then Habitat on another week. >> Yeah.
>> So it's not >> still thinking of Mary Basowski being the first person. >> Yeah. She we'll have her next week. Yes. No, we'll have her ask her to come in next week and then you know we can whether we do.
>> So that would mean like for 108 you might have um Jen Mullen talking about the finances. >> Yep. >> Uh >> and then do the house >> Megan um Eldridge. >> Yep. >> Introduction
and Habitat. >> Mhm. on the 8th. I mean, Jen could probably come in next week as well. Oh, because Jen one we're doing housing and Mary Muslowski.
>> Um, I'm just thinking about 101 for myself. >> Okay. >> Um, that's the public hearing. >> Oh, you're right. for this. >> Why don't we push it off till the >> 15th >> for housing? >> Yeah, if that's all right because we
could do Mary. >> We can accommodate >> I don't know what other people stand in for either, but um but we could we could think about Mary and and Jen and All right. And um
>> Megan and that might be a good mom intro. Um, I think for Megan in ter just in terms of the the the the financial review that Jen always gives us, kind of the overview of where are the pots of money have, it's always a good baseline,
I think, to start out with. >> That's a good place to start. Yeah. >> Um, let me make sure what um Megan's schedule is for the first because I know that Sarah O'Reilly, the HR director, scheduled her appointments for October one. Um,
>> okay. So, I'll check on that. >> Yeah. >> And if anybody knows any meetings that we're that's on the schedule right now that you will not be here, if you could let Don Marie know or I know ahead of time. So, if we if we get notices that three out of the eight or four out of
the eight won't be there, we'll just we won't have a quorum. So, we'll cancel it in advance. >> Yeah. Okay. It's five needed performance. >> Yeah.
>> Yep. We have We have eight. So, you need one more plus. So, we'd need five and we have our five today. >> All right. We just Why don't we just uh do we want to go just one more to talk
about? It's 12:30. >> Let's give everybody a early night out. Um the Yarmouth Natural Resources. >> Yeah, they want to elevate the driveway because it gets flooded a lot over there. Um elevate the driveway and Yeah,
it was a great Yeah, great information. >> Be on the front page. >> Yeah. Um and then um do some redo some of the pilings and platforms and stuff. Um there's a lot of information in there. I know some of the maps they put in there.
I was like going, "Okay, I need to get out my magnifying glass and see what >> right they're more, you know, just kind of illustrative, but um >> yeah, >> one little um technical note is that
the preservation I think the the best way to fit this into the CPA definitions is that the the park packet landing was built and acquired using CPA funds. And this project is going to help
preserve that park from sea level rise. >> Um because not always is is you know construction of a dock fall under recreation >> but >> but we're trying to protect our investment in
>> Right. Because if you go down there during a moon >> forget it. Yeah. Can you even get down there >> up on that pavilion? I know. And a lot of people, it is amazing when you drive by how many people are just sitting on the pavilion >> or sitting on the benches and just sort
of hanging out. >> I just >> I didn't think of that early on and I'm like, "Oh, there's more people just sort of hanging around." >> Yeah, they do. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> They say place to watch the bridge construction. >> That's right. Yeah. Yes. >> The perimeter.
>> Yeah. Right. Right. >> Any major questions about this one? No, we're good. Okay, we'll call it call it for the day. We can go over the others another time and go more in depth. So again, please
questions in advance if you have them. Um we'll have people coming in the next couple of weeks and then we can go over the rest of them just briefly. The only two well conservation we already did with Britney so it's really um friends
of bass river. Yeah. um for Rick to come in. >> So, he'll be >> Yeah, we'll figure that out. >> Yeah, that can be later on. >> Any other um questions, commentary for today's
meeting? >> I have one thing. >> Go right ahead. We ever going to or you plan to have review of the projects that are kind of out there been kind of a
retrospective on things that are already >> okay >> in the work. >> Yeah, it would be good for the public hearing. We have to talk about when we have our public hearing sometime later this fall. Um that would be good overview time to um
>> yeah just you know one that always comes to my mind if the natural resource is going to do a um survey of town waves of water >> that would be like that. >> Yeah.
>> Yep. They're uh they're going to town on that one. >> Are they? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. There's been uh surveys out and information >> for people to submit which where have you what have you used? What's Yeah. >> Yeah. Over the summer they put a lot of stuff out. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I know. >> Yeah.
>> Okay. Anything else from anyone? Could I have a motion to adjourn? >> I move we adjourn. >> Thank you, Drew. Could I have a second? >> Debbie. >> Joanne. Go ahead. >> Oh, David. Sorry, Dave.
>> Paul. Hi >> Drew, David, Debbie, and Judy. Hi. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Thanks, Marie. You are welcome. You're welcome. That button go. And there it is.