recording in progress. All right. Uh, welcome everybody to the Yarmouth Conservation Commission meeting. This is the Yarmouth Conservation Commission meeting, May 1st, 2025. Uh, our first order of business is a notice of intent. uh Crawford Lamb
Adela for Will Rubenstein Elisha's Pond uh proposed treatment of invasive hydrillaa through chemical physical means within Elisha's pond a great pond. Hello, I'm Angela Tanner. I'm here from Crawford Land Management representing the applicant and here with
me is Nick Crawford from Crawford Land Management and we also have Andy Sedaris and Will Rubenstein with us and we are here um for Alicia's Pond which is a 10.3 acre freshwater pond 20t deep at
its deepest point. The southern end is bordered by the Alicia's Pond Recreational Area which is owned by the town of Yarmouth. There are multiple residential properties on the western and northern sides. And then camp Windgate Kirkland is on the east which
is where Will Rubenstein is here representing. Um, Camp Windinggate is a summer camp for kids and among other things, it focuses heavily on aquatic activities like swimming and non-motorized boats and um, mo many of the other
residents also use the pond for those types of activities. The pond currently has a population of hydrillaa verticilada um, an invasive species which has been increasing rapidly over the past few years and it raises safety concerns for the swimmers and boers. And
there's also concern that it's overtaking the native aquatic species and making the pond less hospitable for wildlife and um potentially making the water more susceptible to harmful bacterial blooms. We estimate that a little over half of the pond is invaded
with populations mostly in the shallowest areas, which is the the knuckle up to the north that you see, and then um down to the south where the um the edges and where the camp winding gate swim area
is. And hydrillaa is a federally listed aquatic invasive species. treating and removing it from the pond will not only improve quality for wildlife and recreation, but it will also help keep it spread from spreading to other water
bodies. Um, and right now there's it's not yet widespread on the Cape, although there are a few other ponds that are currently being treated based on um so in order to determine how we should treat the pond,
we consulted a representative with Massachusetts Department of Conservation and Recreation and we followed their rap rapid response plan and we also looked at several other ponds on Cape Cod in Barnstable that are currently being
treated for hydrillaa. Based on their recommendations, we are proposing to chemically treat Alicia's pond with fluoridone, which is a systemic chemical that has been used extensively in the US for hydrillaa and
other species. Um, one of the reasons it's recommended is because it's been in use for almost 40 years. The EPA has tested it and determined it doesn't accumulate in animal tissue, is safe for swimming, fishing, and other aquatic activities. It's a systemic herbicide,
which means it will kill the entire plant. Um, using other contact herbicides that just attack the foliage might help reduce the spread, but it won't help reduce the population of the hydrillaa. And we also don't recommend
solely mechanical removal on its own because pulling up live vegetation won't remove the tubers that are um at the bottom of the plant and uh it can also spread by fragmentation. So moving the plant while it's live is actually going
to make it spread. Uh fluidone doesn't affect animals or humans, but it can affect other vegetation. Um, however, low doses of the chemical can treat the hydrillaa and still allow other plant populations to bounce
back. The pond is within natural heritage and endangered species programs mapped priority habitat and estimated habitat and we've submitted the information to NHSP and are waiting for a decision from them.
We worked with consultants from SCP Pro which manufactures Sonar 1. That's um the form of fluoridone we're proposing to use. It's also being used in the Barnstable ponds. It can be applied in a slowrelease pellet form and it's
recommended that this is done three times over the course of the summer. Once in early summer, once in midsummer and once in late summer. The first treatment is the highest ratio of fluoridone which is around 20 parts per billion which is still at the very
lowest end of of the recommended um applications. The second and third applications would be subsequently lower doses. The fluidone levels will be tested two weeks after each treatment. vegetation surveys done before the
initial treatment and after final treatments each year to determine success rates and al also allow us to potentially adjust the treatment strategy. The application will be done from a lightweight johnboat launched from the swimming area at camp windgate
and will use a pelletized spreader to spread the pellets. The johnboat will be thoroughly cleaned before it is moved off site. The water testing and vegetation surveys will be done from canoes or kayaks provided by the camp which can stay on location so that they won't spread the
hydrillaa. And um I think I think that basically sums up. Do you have anything to add, Nick? No. Basically, we just want to put back put
the pond back to its natural state. Okay. Uh thank you. Uh questions from the board. I do. Sure. Two questions. What um so you're you're saying this has been used and may and
I'm hearing also actively being used uh in ponds on the Cape. And so it's sort of evidence-based in that sense. So what kind of data are you receiving from them? Do you do you have um you know the
the number of of applications they've made? Have you um you know what are their metrics and are you using their metrics? Um and what is you know what's the length of all how long have they historically been doing this chemical
application? So, they've been doing um the treatments for quite a while. I think the initial application might have been early 2000s. Um and it is showing a reduction. I don't know exactly what the numbers are.
Most of the ponds that are being treated are much bigger than Alicia's pond, but from what we have learned is that this plant will probably never be fully eradicated. um it it can be mostly eradicated and controlled so that the
pond can also still function but it will probably never completely disappear. So ongoing maintenance is often I'm more concerned about the adverse effects um you know whether it's affecting the the aquatic species vegetation things like
that. Do you have data on that on on whether or not there has been any adverse effects in the Not that I'm aware of. I mean, we could probably provide some more information on that if you're looking for specifics, but there's more than just saying, well, they're using it here, so we should use it here. I know you must have more
information. It's my understanding that it has been successful and it's not affecting native vegetation ne any more negatively than the hydrillaa itself, which is negatively affecting the vegetation. Yeah. And the uh the parts per billion that it's applied at is 16
to 20. and it has the ability to go all the way up to 90 parts per billion. So it's at the very lowest threshold of um hydrilla is able to be affected at the very lowest threshold. So it like
Angela said it does allow the native vegetation um to persist remain and um even come back afterwards. So my last question based on all of that, there's there's a statement in in
um the proposed management approach is sort of concerning to me because it it says if hydrillaa growth is substantial within the camp windgate Kirkland's designated swim area, okay, that area manual removal may be conducted. So, why
are you choosing to do manual there versus chemical? Only after the plant has been treated and is dead. Um, we wouldn't propose to go in and rip out the live vegetation. Um, but after you have the floating debris everywhere, um,
it might be advisable to remove some of that also to help the oxygen levels of the pond. Okay. It doesn't read that way. It looks like you're going to a different Okay. application versus you know, hand removing the dead. Um,
okay. I mean, we can adjust our language if that helps. Okay. Anybody else? Uh, are you familiar with uh and is the state of Massachusetts even familiar with the phosphorus reduction methods
that are starting to be researched? Have you l looked into that which has uh totally different kind of approach? It takes the you know sits on the bottom so it's sort of longlasting but just like you
will have to retreat they have to retreat that also. Are you familiar with that or I don't think so. So, I do know that the sonar one is slow release and it is a pellet that sits on the bottom and releases slowly over time, which is why the subsequent treatments are less
parts per billion than the first one. Um, as we're just trying to maintain the desired parts per billion throughout the entire treatment process. I don't know about the um phosphorus reduction. Yeah, it
essentially takes it out of circulation. So that it also does the same thing but you have to retreat. So you at this point don't have an idea of how much retreating you might have to do. Not necess Oh after the first year not
necessarily we would and that's why the project is monitored. So the entire treatment program is based on um the surface acres and the average
depth of the pond. So after our first treatment and then two weeks later after our first test of the levels of uh fluoridone in the water, we'll know whether or not um all the sample points that we've taken in the transsects
across the pond gave us a good representation of the average water depth. Um so from there the second treatment may or may not be adjusted based on reaching the desired parts per
billion. So, if we're below 16 parts per billion after the first treatment, by reason of um deduction and working the formula backwards, we'll know what the average depth and surface
area of the pond is so that we can um adequately adjust the second treatment. Well, I'm also concerned about um Britney's a number of items. I'd like to hear her position on these and how
much uh essentially a lack of detail on your pres on your uh proposal is what I would characterize. You want to Yeah, I did. I submitted um a list of questions of too close to the hearing
date for them to be able to prepare a response for this hearing. Um but by the next hearing hoping to have some answers on those. Most of them most of the questions are regarding additional details on on the application strategy which you have provided. Um and especially serving details prior and
post treatment for monitoring. We need metrics what you're measuring the um metrics for native species as well as the hydrillaa if the tubers how you're measuring tubers if you're doing other uh vegetative sampling. Um we just need a lot more information on the surveying
details for the pre and post monitoring as well as any other metrics you're measuring. Um and more details on the monitoring points you described that you have four and for a five acre area. I'm not sure if four is enough. How big are these plot sizes or transexs? just just
more details in general. I can clarify that. Um we're go we can submit an updated diagram that shows those are meant to be areas not points. Okay. Um so what we had thought was per area there would be multiple points. Five right now is what we have included in
our kind of cost analysis. Okay. Five per area. Great. Yeah. And um some other ones you've addressed already. And then some of the other questions were about how the dead vegetation will be removed after treatment. What is the disposal
strategy for the dead vegetation? We have answers to most of those if you want us to respond to those today. Yeah, if you I mean offhand if you have them that's great and then you can submit them afterward as well. Okay. Do you want us to run through the list? Sure.
Okay. So the first question was on whether um you did answer the first question um and the second one. Okay. So just the ones we really haven't heard of at the monitoring. So for the surveying of the
hydrillaa and vegetation equipment is weighted survey tape measure ngene widemouth lab quality bottles. A drone will be taking photographs because it's easy to see um during certain times of the year. A rake and shovel, soil core,
trimble survey equipment. We um will survey with using GIS to record the locations and um the survey will include density per square foot, growth stage, tuber, vegetative plant, flowering, health,
stunted versus poor or healthy, and photo documentation when feasible. And um the monitoring points, I think I just talked about we were going to do five per area. Um, and it might we might adjust that to more if
needed, but at least five. And other metrics that we would be monitoring, we're going to be testing for fluoridone levels and that would also include basic metrics like nitrogen, available nitrogen, pH,
um, what are safety measures that we are including. And we intend to incorporate signage and um notifications to the neighbors, the the butters of the pond on when the testing is going or when the treatments are happening as well as the
restrictions for irrigation because the even though it's safe for humans and drinking, it does affect vegetation. So they can't irrigate plants while the pond is being treated. Um the application dosage I think we talked about already. It's 20
parts per billion and then re reduces for the second and third. Um we also talked about the hand removal and the disposal strategy is to bag it and it will go to a transfer station not
a um composting facility. And um cleaning we um had sent to Britney and we will we will send hard copies to everybody else. We have a um outline guideline from
protectyouwaters.net which has general basically preventing the spread of hydrillaa and it has detailed information about how to clean. So we're following that. Basically using hot hot water is the main recommendation.
Great. Thank you. I had a question um on the the hand removal. Um I believe you said you were only removing it in the swimming area or are you going to be doing it across the whole? The main area that it would be removed for sure if it's there
during the swimming season would be Camp Windgate, but we would like to be able to permit it for the whole pond because there are a lot of other residents using the pond and they may also want to be able to swim in their, you know, areas as well. Thank you. That was my concern.
Yeah. Um, I also I know we're waiting on the NHGSP comment letter, but I was wondering if you knew what those what the species species is. I don't think we do, Andy. We don't have that information. Um, sure. It's a sand pond
plane community. Yeah, I would assume it's of some vegetation. Yeah. So, they're probably going to have some comments. Yeah. So, I guess my comment would be um whether whether or not this uh herbicide is going to have an impact on potentially that
listed species as well, right? And obviously that would be our concern as well. So, once we find out what it is, hopefully we can figure out how that will work. I mean, it may be something that is also threatened by the hydrillaa itself. So, it's going to be hard to
determine until we know what it is. Okay. Thank you. Anybody else? Britney, anything else? Um my only other comment right now before we get more deeply into it um with NHSP comment is um for your monitoring procedure. If
you're only if you're taking all of your monitoring metrics for the vegetation from a boat, I would fear that you're missing other vegetation that's at a different level in the water. Um, so it might be valuable to have some at least where someone's in the water snorkeling to see all of the vegetation in the
water table at different depths. Um, depending on what's there, it's could be fun. Volunteer. That's all for now. Thank you. Okay. Uh, anybody in the audience have any comments, questions on this project? Anybody on Zoom? raise your
hand digitally. I see none. U if you could you just if you're going to make a comment, go up to the podium into the microphone. Up here Oh, there's a microphone on the side for
comments. if you would just state your name for the record, please. Uh, Michael Watts. I'm just wondering about the potential of using grass carp in addition to the chemical procedures uh for Elijah's pawn. It um is actually not allowed in
the state of Massachusetts at this time. Okay. Thank you. I just have one question. Yep. So, is this an entirely private pond? It's owned by the camp and also it's a it we believe it's um No, it's a great
pond. It's a great pond. Great pond. Okay. Yeah, it's state but the but the people in the camp and also maybe a few other folks are funding this entire endeavor. Yeah. Okay. Thank you.
Okay. Okay. So, unless there's any further questions from the audience or the board, uh we are waiting on natural heritage uh comments. So, we can't do anything to close that at this point. Uh I would suggest then uh we entertain a
motion to continue to the 15th. Yes. And to review the additional information they provide. I'm sorry. And to review the additional information that they provide on the details. Yes. So, we'll we'll have that we'll we'll
have at least at least two weeks to review that and you'll be sending that information in uh written form, right? Um if you could do that within the next week, that would be good. So, we have it at least a little bit of time to review that. Um would is somebody like to make
a motion to continue to May 15th? So, moved. There a second. All those in favor? Opposed? Carries unanimously. All right. We'll see you in two weeks. Thank you. Thank you.
All right. Next order of business, the review of protocol for SE83-2431. Uh this Greater Island Highland Homeowners Association Great Island Road reviewing a thresholds and replacement protocol for geoteexile bags. Mr. Chairman, I'd like to recuse myself
from this. All right. So noted. Uh right. Hi. Hi. Um, for the record, my name is Lesie Fields with the Woods Hole Group. Um, also here in the audience, we have um Malcolm Kent and Craig Fleming
from Great Island. Um, where would you like this up now or is this the next one? You can actually go to slide four. It might help. I hadn't thought I would have any slides for this discussion, but um but that might help. Um, so as as the commissioners may or
may not remember, Great Island had a lot of storm damage back in 2023. We came in under an emergency order and put in some geoexile bags to protect the edge edge of the road with had sand cover on top of them and um
came in for after the fact order of conditions. We got that order of conditions from you guys and that order said that well well first of all let me if you look at the figure the top figure we put those geoteexiles in two areas a south area that was about 110 ft long
and a north area that was 810 ft long. So the order of conditions that you gave great island said um that we want you to replace those geoexiles in the southern area with a fiber roll array and then we want you to come back with a protocol
that would sort of dictate when you're going to replace those northern geoexiles. Um we did the two pictures on the bottom show um that in March of this year we did replace the geoteexiles in the
southern area with um a fiber roll array and covered it with sand and planted it. Um Crawford Land Management actually did the work. They were here right before us. They did a great job. Looks beautiful. Um and then we submitted a protocol for replacing the bags in the north section. So that's what I'm
talking about at this point. Um and that protocol includes um if we see tears in four or more consecutive bags that are 24 in long or greater or if we see that four
consecutive bags have lost at least half or more of their sandfill. That would be a trigger for replacing a section of that um geoteexile array. And we are saying that we will replace at least 50% or 50 ft of
um the array if if those triggers are met. Um and all the other conditions that were in the order of conditions that required us to meet on site with the conservation commission before we do anything. That's still, you know, we would still adhere to that. Um and then
we would provide a report to the commission after this section is replaced. um just with pictures and photographs and letting you know you know construction details and how much sand we used to to cover the fiber rolls for the yeah fiber rolls. I will say that we
have put sand on the existing geoteexile array just once when they did the dredging of that Sweetheart Creek. We did put some sand on top. Um they weren't completely exposed. Just a small area of the geoteexiles were exposed. Um, but we haven't had any exposure since then or a need to put any more
sand on on the geoexiles since then. So, that's that's our recommendation for the protocol for replacing the geoteexiles. Okay. Uh, did anybody from the ward have any questions? Britney, any questions,
comments? No. Thank you. You're welcome. All right. Uh, so you just need a probably just a vote to approve a motion to approve the protocol. All right. Do I have a motion to approve the protocol? Is there a second? Second.
Uh, choose. I'll give it to I'll give it to Jack. How's that? My feelings are hurt. You get to do it enough though. All those in favor? I opposed. varies unanimously. All right. Uh, next order
of business is another sorry, a continued notice of intent for S83-2464 Great Island Homeowners Association, Great Island Road proposed fiber roll array and nourishment over 3,400 linear feet of coastal dune barrier beaches coastal beach and land
sub coastal storm flowage. Okay, still here. Um Lesie Fields with Woodsole Group representing Great Island Homeowners Association. Um so this this application that's before you tonight is something that came out of the feasibility study
that we did for Great Island. I know that at least Britney has a copy of that study. I don't know if the commissioners have been given a copy or it's long. I'm sure you haven't had a chance to look at it, but I hope that you do get a chance to look at it and assume in the near future. Um, but one of the recommendations we made was to do just
what this this notice of intent has in it. And it's basically to um to I'm calling it a proactive notice of intent. So um we're filing for permission to install fiber rolls along
the edge of the road um when a certain threshold is triggered. And that threshold is if the dune is eroded to within five feet of the road. Um Britney, you can actually skip to the like. Here we go. Okay. Um so we're only
going to do this on an as needed basis moving forward in the future. Um again, if the dune erodess to within 5 ft of the road, um we have identified 3,400 linear feet
over which we would like to have this order of conditions apply to. And that's areas that have, I believe, 75 ft or less of dune width right now. So areas that had wider dunes than that, we did not include in this notice of intent,
but it's all the areas that are shown in red on this graphic. The areas that are shown in yellow are the areas I just talked about it a minute ago where we have either fiber rolls or the geoteexiles that will eventually be replaced if the tri if the triggers are met. Um again we're proposing the same
sort of notification to the conservation commission as in the other order of conditions that we would um you know notify the commission for an on-site if we see these triggers are met, agree upon a length of beach that we're going to install these fiber rolls. Um, and
then once they're installed, we'll have post construction as built photographs and a and a memo describing what was done. Um, here's a description or a picture of the actual design and cross-section. So, we've got a four tiered fiber roll array. Um, the top
roll is about at the same elevation as the road. Um, on top and and those are anchored with uh duck bells and cables. Then on top of that, we've got a dune uh with beach compatible material. The back side of the dune has a two to one slope.
The seawward side is 4:1. Most of the work is occurring in the coastal dune. A little bit of the the nurse is sort of going down on the beach and we've obviously got construction access on the beach. So that's a temporary impact down there. Um next
[Music] slide is really just resource area impact. So, if the whole thing is built, uh, we will be impacting 13,700 ft of dune. Um, 48,12 ft of beach. Some of that beach
impact is permanent from the placement of sand. Other is just temporary from construction access. And then a much larger impact to barrier beach, estimated habitat of rare wildlife and land sub coast storm flowage. That's about
92,633 square feet. That includes um staging areas on the the what is that the west north side of the road where you know they need to store equipment as they're working to replace the to install the fiber
rolls. Um, and we are what, you know, we're hoping to be able to to have an order of conditions that will last 5 years that will allow us to do this work and to maintain these and to come back and nourish the tops of the fiber rolls if needed up to three times a year with
up to 4,000 cubic yards of beach compatible material. Um the reason we're asking for three to five years is that some of the other recommendations in the feasibility study um you know the the homeowners association is deciding on how to
implement and which ones to implement. Once they decide that it's going to take time to design, permit and build. So we are expecting it will take up to three to five years for them to you know sort of start acting on some of these other alternatives. In the meantime, we feel
like they need protection for this road when and if that dune erodess back to within five feet of the road. We do have a letter from Natural Heritage saying it's a no take situation provided we follow time of year restrictions. Um so no work between April 1st and August
31st when the birds might be there. And that's basically it. I've got you the plans here sort of the areas where we're asking for permission to be able to put these fiber rolls. um when the trigger is met those are shown in yellow and the areas in or those are shown in red and the areas in
yellow are the areas where the existing uh shore protection is is present. Okay. Just the bookkeeping thing. We opened this but we never took any testimony. Right. That's correct. So I just want to So I'm
just wondering about quorum. That's all. Um questions from the commission. Yeah. I have a couple. Um, so you said uh if it 75 ft of less, what's the closest area now within that
uh 3,400 linear feet? Right to the right adjacent to this the south area where we installed the fiber rolls. It's it's it's probably right at five feet right now. Okay. And in the previous
presentation, you talked about a minimum amount of uh of beach that you would do. Is there a minimum amount? So, let's say this area, you're just going to do that area or you going to extend it? That's a really good question. I think it's something that we have to decide on at the time depending on, you know, what
what the extent of erosion is. Um and and it's sort of also a consideration of, you know, mobilizing equipment and and materials. Um, so I think that's something that, you know, if the commission would allow, we could decide upon that at the time that we that we
move forward with implementing one of these. I don't think it would be any smaller than than 50 ft. Okay. I think that's it for now. Thank you. Okay. Anybody else? Um, that section maybe that's a way of
showing it. I'm having a hard time understanding the within five feet and um number one, where did the five feet um come from? Uh that's like the trigger. Yeah, the that's the trigger. Okay, I'll let you finish a question.
Yeah. And just I just wanted to kind of see that on that section like what where where's the point of So I see the roadway. So what you're saying is that if there's erosion within five feet that will be
implemented but um well let me get just my first question. Where did the five feet come from? Um it's just what we thought would be sort of a critical number. So, if we've got only 5t of dune left and then
we have another storm, then um there's a high likelihood that that 5t of dune is going to be gone and there's a a good chance that there's going to be damage to the road. So, we're trying to prevent that. Five feet is safe enough. I mean, it's that's that was our estimate. Yes. Yeah. Based on, you know, other
measurements of other site, you know, parts of the the beach out there. Just doesn't seem like a lot. It's not much. Yeah. It's not much. Okay. Thank you. Okay. Anybody else? Jack just uh going through the
some odd hundred pages. Um they saw I couldn't find much information at all on duration once you talked about you know obviously once the road is or the dunes even are
underwater one foot two feet five whatever but I couldn't find duration. So is there a what's the typical if you get a 100 year storm what's the duration of the water sitting on top of that road?
That is a very good question and I do not have an answer off the top of my head. We do have that data back inside the model that we've developed for the whole state at Woodsole Group. Um like I didn't look through the model. Yeah. No, no, I don't expect you to. Um
um so I can't really I can't really answer that. I I will say that that this particular application is not really geared towards preventing flooding of the road. It's geared towards preventing erosion and damage of the road. It my question is
really for the next phase for the feasibility study. Yeah. Yeah. um you know and th those alternatives that we came up with in the feasibility study are geared towards both sort of minimizing flooding you know maximizing use of the road as much as you can and minimizing erosion. So there were
looking at both sort of you know risks in that study but I if you want I can I can pull that information up and be ready to describe that next time we come back whenever you come back on your next phase. Okay, we'll do I'll be ready to answer that. But also, I'd throw in a
suggestion for doom buggies, but that's because I'm from Southern California. So, and you need transportation in emergency. We talked about that, did you? Yeah. That's all. Okay. Anybody? Uh Paul?
Yeah. I just um I know you've been here many times. The whole group has. And I I just want to mention the fact that I I think we appreciate all of the effort, all of the thought, all of the expertise that has gone into maintaining and um addressing this
um beautiful area. And um I just want to make sure you know we're thankful for all the work that you you've done. All right. Well, thank you very much. Thank these gentlemen back here. They're they're responsible as well. Of course. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Anybody
else? Britney, I had a question similar along the same lines as Jack. It's so you've clarified that this is just to pretty much ensure that the roadway continues to be usable so it's not severely damaged, right?
Correct. Um because I was just having trouble understanding how these fiber rolls at the same elevation of the roadway would increase resilience much to sea level rise and um our increased coastal storms. So is the idea generally
that all of this sand is sacrificial? You're renourishing every three times of winter. You're really just trying to get by squeak by these last five years. Um cuz I unless you can explain how it's increasing the resilience because I'm not understanding that portion. It's
increasing the resilience by by um minimizing the potential for the road to be damaged from erosion. It's not increasing resilience to flooding. Flooding. So we're we're continuing to expect over topping and wash over. Yes. Of this area. For now. Yes. Until
something else is implemented. Yes. And so we'll continue with the emergency plan of plowing that sand out and piling it back up every time it's washed over. Okay. And I don't I mean we are asking for the ability to put sand over these
fibbrals three times a year. We certainly won't do it if we don't need to. It's just to keep them covered so they're not exposed to that UV light. Okay. Thank you. Question. Uh I'm thinking of the future feasibility study. How long you you
asking for a fiveyear for this? Is it going to be five years before we have a something coming to to us for a more permanent solution? I can't answer that because I'm not in control of that. But um I would hope that we you know that that something would be before this
board well before 5 years because if they want to get something built within 5 years they've got to they got to have a you know they got to start the permitting process long before that. Okay. Thank you. Sorry I do have one more question. Um did you consider implementing in
addition to the this array any sort of sand fencing in underneath or on top of this for um sand accretion? We didn't but we could that's that's like the only sort of dune um strengthening projects I've seen in
the past. This is sort of new to me but I think natural heritage might have concerns about that. Um just just my thought. Yeah. Um that's a good point. We didn't propose that. Um in the I know in the higher energy spots
in Turo and Wellle, they have like the sturdy the sturdy sturdy drift fence. Yeah. Underneath. Yeah. Um Yeah. And we did we did have sand fencing on the back side of the geoexiles, you know, right next to the road, but I don't think that does as
much for building sand on that side. So, um, you know, maybe it's something we can ask Natural Heritage about and see if they would be a minimal to that. And, um, if so, we could just come back in for a modification or something if
that's something we think would benefit the system. I'm not a coastal engineer. It's just something I've seen before. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Just one more question. Um, yeah. I don't want to beat a dead horse and I I haven't looked at this before. You know, I know you've
been working on this for years or whatever, but if I just need to understand what what's the a priority here? Is it the road? The road is the priority. Correct. Not the dunes. Yeah, Elliot, they like the dunes, too. And and we we all like the dunes. We
want to we want to maintain the dunes, but this is the only means of access to this island. Correct. and and for you know there's several Yervon residents and there's also you know emergency response that we've got to Yeah. So it's a beautiful road I need to understand that but Okay. Yeah. So it's protection
of the road so that we can maintain access for the residents who live out there. So the dunes are secondary to the road. I'm I'm reluctant to say that, but um that the dunes are, you know, if we can maintain the dunes and and
um you know, make them be as healthy as they can be, then we can provide protection for the road. Okay. I just wanted to understand what the objective. Thank you. I would just chime in with Ellie that the dunes are
eroding here. It's not like we have healthy dunes that they're going in and trying to change things. They're they're disappearing. So, they're they're trying to beef them up in places only where it's needed. Obviously, on the areas closest to the entrance, they've got
these big dunes that they're doing well. They're not going to touch those unless they need to. Okay. And we do have natural heritage comment or we do. Yeah, we do. Yeah. Okay. Uh, anybody in Oh, sorry. Do you have anything else? No, that's all. Thank you. Uh, anybody in the audience?
Anybody on [Music] Zoom? Any further discussion among the board? Uh if not, would somebody like to make a motion to approve the project with special
conditions incorporating natural heritage comment as well? So moved. Second. All those in favor? I opposed. Chairman votes nay. Right, Aries. Thank you very much.
Can you Who um was that David and Jack? David and Jack. What am I doing? Just sign and pass it on down. All right. Uh, next order
of next order of business is another continued notice of of intent for SC83-2475 Keith and Clarefelt and 61 Baker Road proposed garage driveway in the in the buffer zone to a bordering vegetated wetland. Karen. Good evening, Mr. Chairman,
members. For the record, my name is Kieran Healey. I'm a land surveyor group representing the owners of the property, Keith and Cla Felton. Um, I was here a couple of weeks ago with this project and we had discussed uh some potential modifications. So, I went back out to the site with my client and we were able
to do a few things that I think will help the situation. Um the first thing we were able to do was to rotate the building and um by rotating the building we were able to save the two two of the trees on the rear side that 12 in
cedar southwest corner located the driveway just a bit on the um north side. We were filling in the entire existing driveway and pushing the new driveway further from the wetlands. By utilizing the existing
driveway, we're able to save that nice 14inch tree that's there, which is the largest one of all the ones that was to be removed. So, I think it's even though we're a little bit closer to the wetland, by saving that tree, I think it's substantial. And um I'm hoping the
board would feel the same that the what we're taking is a lot less than by saving that tree. Um, I've also uh proposed 10 new trees um as we go further back um along the property. We had talked about infilling
that little strip in the private road. Um I talked to my clients about it and they were perfectly fine with us doing that. Um apparently the the little bit of a pathway there isn't so much used by the neighbors as I was led to believe, but more used for access for cutting the
lawn on the back side of the property. So, the owner is more than willing to let that be filled in and uh just take a different route to get to the back of his property. Um I had an email from um Whitney a little bit earlier talking about the size of the hazelnuts. Um and
I did confirm that as well. We can't purchase those at 2 in. Um they come smaller. So, as a result, we can either utilize those and smaller or we can modify it to be um something larger like a white pine or an oak that's in the
area right now. We don't have a problem with that. Glad to um take the commission suggestions on that and uh hopefully that answers most of the questions we had. Glad to answer. Okay. Thanks, Kieran. Yeah, I would uh I
would definitely u turn um as well. Uh change the uh change hazelnut for uh white pine. Okay. So, we were proposing five hazelnut between the two different types. Are we okay with five white pine? Yep. Yeah. Because and
we're looking at two two inch or greater caliper, right? If that typically put in Okay. Yeah. If the homeowners are in love with hazelnut, they can put in the mitigation area if they wanted. Okay. And they did. I mean, these are plants that came from
the homeowner, so it was okay. We might switch those out for some of the uh the shrubs that we're proposing. Yeah. In that area. Thank you. I fine on that and gladly bring that back to him. Yeah, that's fine. Um that's all I have. Anybody else?
Anything else? Britney, anything else? Yeah, the other um portion of my comment was just to take a closer look at the spacing for the sizing you have. um they're just way too far apart for one gallons um when you submit the revised mitigation plan. That's all. Thank you. Thing is I check
the size of these once they grow out and that's what prompted my spacing. Um even though when they're initially purchased they're smaller and there's a lot of space between them but in a few years time when they're fully grown then they're going to be intertwined with each other. That's why the spacing I
understand that. Um, I mean the industry standard though is like for sweet pepper bush it's it's four to five feet on center for a three gallon and you have eight feet for a one gallon. It's just what's shown in the Barnstable County suggested spacing list
and that's what we we usually go by to make all the calculations easy to make sure that we have enough coverage. Um, but if you're swapping some of these out for the hazelnut, it might work out. Yeah, I'll have a quick look at that. Okay, thank you. Okay. Uh, anybody else? Anybody in the
audience? Anybody on Zoom? Any further discussion? No. Somebody like to make a motion to approve the project with special conditions. Move. Jack. Oh, sorry. Is there a
second? Second. All those in favor? Opposed? No. No. was pending receipt of the plan, revised plan showing the swaps, right? I'm sorry. Oh, you want a you want a uh a
revised plan for the white pines and the Yes. I expect to submit a revised plan. Yeah. I'm I'm sorry. I was I was already I was already going to the next uh hearing. I'm sorry. So, 61. Did you vote the AA? I'm just so excited to get to to
move something through here, Kieran. All right. So, with the revised plan, vacation tomorrow, so you won't see me for weeks, so you have to hook it. Nice. All right. Well, we'll we'll have less headaches than that way through for sure. I'll see you on George Street when you get back.
Um, so is everybody okay with that with the revised plan addition? Yeah. All right. Um, that's it, right? Thanks. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thanks, Karen. not sign that. All right. Next order of business
is a new notice of intent for SE83-2476 James Morris for Marsh Point proposed porch and entry addition in the buffer zones to Salt Marsh and Coastal Bank. You have green cards. You can take them right to Ed if you don't mind. Thank
you, Dan. Good evening, Chairman Hoops, members of the commission. Uh my name is Dan Ojula. I'm a land surveyor and also a civil engineer with Down Cape Engineering in Yarmouthport. Um and uh we're helping um the folks out here um Morris with the
for Marsh Point. It's I think a a um a nice little project. Um you have um fairly new regulations on mitigation and those have kicked in. Uh so uh sort of a um a nice win for the commission and and
also a nice addition for the owner. We've got um currently um you may recall there was some some fragmitees removal and so forth on the site and they're doing a little upper level addition which didn't touch the ground out front but they'd like to do a little porch in the front. It's a small amount of
footprint. Uh we're dealing with um a technical resource area. The most landwood is a is a is a coastal bank. You look at where the flood zone comes in and if it's over 10% uh where that flood zone hits it's it's called a coastal u bank because it's thought to
contain the flood waters more than just be inundated by them. Um if it's steeper than a four to one it runs up the hill according to the technical bulletin but in this case that's not the situation. Um and so it's coincident with the flood zone. So this uh the basement of this
place would flood uh during a very large storm event. Um there is some clay in the area and and they've got a wet basement now. So if you notice they have a little sump pump which you know it's generally crystal clear water that comes out of the ground but that is um needs
to be pumped once in a while. The soils up in this area this neck of the woods are a little bit tough. There's clay and they don't infiltrate particularly well. Um but we're certainly going to do the best we can. septic system out front had a big soil removal that punched through to the cleaner sand and in that manner
functions okay. Uh the site uh again we've got coastal storm flowage the flood zone u AE14 a little bit seawward there's a VE16 uh and then the coastal bank um there's a a whites brook but we're uh that's a
long ways out so we're more than 200 feet from that. The uh rivers of course have an inner and outer repairarian zone. We're not in nhesp prior priority or estimated habitat. So, um the porch is um is uh again that technical
resource area. It's within the developed dwelling and so forth, but we're 14 ft from that with the little porch, but again, it's it's landward of all the other development on the site, so it's it's pretty dimminimous. Um it's a full 57.9 from the salt marsh.
um when you do the calculations um the um uh multiplication factor, you end up with 800 square foot of of shrubs are proposed by regulation. And so that's what we're doing. We're pulling up lawn that's down along the salt marsh and
planting it with um native vegetation um salt tolerant um and um we're protecting the uh the disturbance up above with some silk fence. Um, no adverse effects to the salt marsh
are expected. Uh, that work limit line will remain in place until the work is complete and the site is stabilized. Um, coastal storm flowage. Again, it's very hard to impact that. Uh, especially when you've got a, you know, fairly sharply rising bank and
there's no fill. You generally don't worry about fill in a coastal environment because the basin is so big. It's very, very hard to affect the flood waters with with especially a small amount of fill. uh and no fill is proposed and the coastal bank again will continue to
operate as it has been because there's no changes to the slopes power on my computer. with everything else. Okay. So, you're gonna have to give me a Sure. Okay. That was exciting. That needs my home, too. What's going
on? I don't know. Street. Yeah, they're working down on Should be done by now. Yeah, car might hit a pole. We're live. I shouldn't be. That was dark. We're in the basement. No emergency lighting. Yeah, there's a
couple little red lights. That's what phones are for. No generator. I didn't take a picture of the I can say it's not happening West John because my generator didn't go on. So good point. The exit sign should have
stayed on. My phone's on SOS, but I don't know if I have signal down here anyway. Okay, here's Are we back on? I'm not sure. I'll wait for lost the zoom, but you lose the
recording. Okay, now I guess it's up to you. We can give it a minute for the Zoom. Yeah, I think we can continue for Zoom. Okay. Because we don't know that started on Zoom. I
don't know if anybody was out there comments. That was quick. Thanks, Liam. All right, I think we're back. So, in [Laughter] conclusion again, for the record, Dan Ogdula from Downkeep Engineering. We had
a brief recording in progress. That was just the Dan Ojula from Downkeep Engineering. I I didn't uh we stopped talking during the power outage and we're back now. But um we were just going through um the project narrative and some of the impacts uh or lack thereof on the salt marsh, the land
subject to coastal storm flowage in the coastal bank. Um the homeowners are environmentally conscious. Uh they have a rain barrel to collect some of the runoff which they use to irrigate the plants. You don't see those too often. And they um they do some composting, I believe. But um uh some of the uh there
weren't any comments from D. Uh but uh Britney did mention that um she noticed some of the downspouts were heading back towards the the salt marsh. Um and so uh we could look at incorporating those that the driveway is got a high point up
at the street and so no run road runoff comes down and it's a pvious gravel surface so you'll get some pretty good infiltration from that. I think the sump pump may discharge, but I believe there's an exception. It certainly it's perfectly clean water that comes out of that once in a while. A little bit of
run driveway runoff, but I I think it's a dimminimous matter because it's it's a pvious gravel driveway with a cobble edge that catches most of it. Um, we could uh certainly incorporate some some uh down gradient gravel drip edge against the uh southwest corner and
southeast corner of the building to help uh capture some of that runoff. Um, it'll be a little bit limited on the infiltration, but better that probably than transporting it closer to the marsh as it is now. So, we'll be happy to revise the plan to show a little gravel drip edge against the south side and um,
of course, the north side as well as noted on the plan. under note number six that the roof runoff and the drip lines to be directed to stone trenches. Um we had kind of intended that for be the front but um I think that based on
Britney's comment we would happy to be add that to the south as well. Um, again, I think it's a a small increase. Uh, it's at 44 square foot um um or in the in the 50 to 100. We're
adding 199. Again, it's 0 to 50 because it's a um the coastal bank is way up near the front of the house, but uh so that times 4 is 796. So, it's a very aggressive multiplication factor. You guys are getting rid of a lot of lawn, getting some nice plantings there along
the salt marsh. I think it's a it's a nice win-win. Be glad to answer any questions if you do have Thanks. Questions from the ward. Anything? Oh, I do. Sorry. Um, can can
we show the plan up there again? Y, it's not on the big Oh, the small would Oh. Um, I was just interested in the 50 foot buffer and if that is delineated on your
plan. I I didn't it's way up there because the coastal bank is over here. Coastal bank uh at the flood zone. So 50 feet from that is is up here. And you can see it's it's labeled in that area
there. 50 foot off top of coastal bank. So um again the coastal bank in this area it's a dry resource area. It's very stable. It's not eroding but it technically is a coastal bank. I think the more sensitive resour resource areas is a salt marsh and as I stated I think
we're about 58 feet away from that. So a little more uh reasonable with respect to the more sensitive resource area in this case. Why is a variance um a variance is sought from Yarmouth wetland regulation for work within the 50-foot buffer to
the coastal bank? Yeah. So again um anytime what what you guys do is you like to have an undisturbed 50-ft buffer. So you put that in there. So uh we are working within the 50 even though it doesn't you know we're there's a lot of house closer to the bank. We're
adding a very small porch there. So um technically that's accurate. We're in the 0 to 50 of that coastal bank. We wouldn't be asking for it if the coastal bank was down near the salt marsh, but Okay. This is the hand we're dealt. Okay. I see. Now it's all sort of
switched in between. Yeah. What's What's the work going on now? Um it's doesn't disturb the ground. So, um they typically wouldn't require filing, but they're putting a small dormer on the front. Uh like in this area here, it's a very small dormer. So that's what they
signed off a building just throw building per Thank you. All right. Anybody other any other questions? Anything? Yeah, I guess um I guess what I was looking at was the
sump pump because it it just goes into in this little pipe underneath the driveway that empties straight into this little ditch which is delineated as part of the salt marsh. Um I'm not super concerned actually about this. Okay. Um
because there's plenty of distance and there's no sign of erosion. Okay. If obviously one occurs, but obviously if you're pumping ground water, there's nowhere to put a dry well or anything. So yeah, I guess it's just the sun pump. Do you have any thoughts
on that? Some pumps. I would leave some pumps alone. Uh they're because they are pumping ground water. It's not TSS. No, no pollutants. It's basically drinking water. I mean, some some pump water is is usually unless there's, you know, unless they're draining a basement
that's filled with, you know, oil or whatever, but um it's some pumps are usually and they go straight looking as something that doesn't contribute any kind of pollutant. So, I'm not worried about pollutant. It just looks like
they're actively trying to slow this down. There's a there's a little bucket on the edge of this pipe that's repaired in some way. It looks like they're trying to slow that water down and it looks like it is making a little bit of a an impact on the salt marsh. Um I guess the speed at which it's pumped
entirely depends on the ground level groundwater levels. I just wasn't sure if there was any way that could be improved, but it may not, which is fine. We could certainly have them uh put a little bit better flow diffuser on that. It's It's kind of cobbled together right
now and it would distribute it out a little bit more evenly so it would make sure it wouldn't erode the the That sounds lovely. Flow diffuser to do that. Flow diffuser and have it actually uh connected rather than it's kind of cobbled together now. How quick I mean
how much is it actually pumping? right now, but every once, you know, on a wet spring, it'll probably go, you know, I mean, I I've I don't know if you're aware of the one over over on the harstable harbor side, but yes, you
are. You are you are intimately. So, it's certainly not that I I'm not I'm not worried about if you put the if you put the diffuser on like that and and fix it correctly, I think it's perfectly fine then. Great. Uh there's nobody in the a anyway. Anything else?
Uh if there's nobody on the audience there, anybody on Zoom? Uh if not, would somebody Do we decide on the revised plan then or No, we're we're good without it. I don't need a plan. Okay. Um would somebody like to make a motion to approve the project
with special conditions? I will. There's a second. All those in favor? I opposed. Carries unanimously. Right. Next order of business. Another notice of intent for SED3-2478 Thomas and Paul Moran Moran.
Uh 20 mil lane proposed additions patio and new septic system in the buffer zones to a BBW and Coastal Bank. Good evening. Um for the record, Chairman Hoops, my name is Dan Ojula. a land surveyor and a civil engineer with Down Cape Engineering in Yarmouthport
and um here on behalf of the new owner uh of 20 mil Lane who is Thomas Moran Thomas had been looking for home in the area this became available and uh he's looking to you know do some modest upgrades that the the house is um a
little bit older and the spaces were a little bit fragmented so he's working with um with Jimmy Bose's Bayside and they come up with a nice plan to expand it a little bit. Um it's not in a um a nitrogen sensitive area. Um there's a
good distance to the septic system to the uh wetlands. There's no variances required. It's high and dry. There is some silt loom in the area. Uh you got to punch through that to get into the better sand. There's a couple layers of sand and silt and then at the bottom it was all beautiful clean coarse sand all
the way down um you know 14 15 ft with no groundwater. Uh we're high and dry on the on the back side there resource areas um distantly there's a little creek we're outside of the repairarian zone to that you can see the uh outer
repairarian zone just nicks onto the property barely. Um we're looking at a again a technical coastal bank um where it's not particularly steep u with the exception perhaps where the driveway is. It's it's a pretty well- definfined bank. There's probably some historic
fill in there many many years ago. But then the the the rest of the slope is um is around 15 11 18%. It's well under the 25% runup slope, but it is steep enough to create
a technical coastal bank. Um, seawward of that, there's a um there's a a a small BVW. This area has uh also like we see in the soil log, some clay where the water oozes out. It creates a little freshwater bordering vegetative wetland
of the salt marsh. Um Brad Hall had done some delineations for us actually next door uh many years ago. boy took off from his line and we delineated and uh Britney checked out uh the flags nice well- definfined wetland the uh this
time of year uh you get the skunk cabbage that form a nice line where that is it's a nice topographical rise up we did some holes and checked it out and um again that's that's seawword of the coastal bank so the most uh conservative
or the the um the coastal bank delineation we we looked at the 50 and the 100 again we looked your regulations uh which do require quite a bit of mitigation these days. Uh the 0 to 50 there's no increase. Uh so that's the good news. There is um an old stone wall
with a lawn that goes up to uh it uh in the area of closest to the wetland and uh in those areas we're looking at um um a good opportunity to to pull up some lawn and plant some mitigation. So your
regulations work very nicely. Um the 50 to 100 um we've broke it out to building gravel drive and patio totaling about 988 square foot of increase uh in that area multiply the factor is two. So you're
looking at 1976 square foot and we're proposing about 2,000 square foot of uh pulling up lawn and planting uh native species. Um we um u initially had some creeping juniper in there. We uh swap swapped that out
with some honey some some good uh low growing huckleberry sod, which uh uh Cape Coastal Nursery does does uh source that out off Cape, but they can roll that out and provides a nice little habitat for the bunnies and and various
flora and fauna. The b bees love the flowers. Uh there's also a bunch of sweet pepper bush and some northern arrowwood. Um and uh so we'll we'll we'll recreate a nice uh buffer there along the stone wall and out into the
lawn uh to uh help protect the um the uh the bank, the the freshwater wetland and then the river beyond at the salt marsh. So um I think it's a nice project. It's a there is one extra bedroom. Uh he just it's just the size of the house. I think
it'll be just him and his wife. But in any event, four bedrooms, pretty modest uh considering this the area and the the size of the lot. No variances whatsoever way way away from the wetland, way outside your jurisdiction.
Uh and no, um variances whatsoever required for that. Um so it's a little addition on the south, a little addition on the north, a little bit larger, and then some patio, you know, some room out the back. It does enjoy uh you know views out over um the uh salt marsh
because you're up kind of high. So it'll be a nice nice property, even nicer property once the additions are done. Um we did uh carefully take all the roof runoff. You can see it's carefully drawn from the southeast corner and the southwest corner. That little dash line
is the roof drains. We've run it all the way around and out front to do deep dry wells where we'll punch through um the uh clay and and infiltrate all that. Uh Britney uh acutely noticed that there's some right now some some erosion coming off the south end of the building uh
because it's fairly steep near the driveway. So, this will cure that because we're taking all the roof run off and piping it underground and infiltrating it outside the 100 foot buffer. Um so, that will be cured. Um, there's a couple of trees within the work limit line that'll be hanging over
the house. So, those will be taken out, but again, you've got 800 square foot of of new uh lawn being pulled up with nice mitigation plants to compensate for a little bit of hardscape and the loss of a couple of trees. Um, there's some nice specimen trees up near the house that'll
remain. Be glad to answer any questions if you have them. Thank you. Okay, questions from the board. Just a question and a comment. Um, there's no disturbance to the existing stone wall, correct? That's correct.
Yep. That'll just stay there. It will be probably masked a little bit by the plantings eventually, but um, you know, it'll still be there. So, as far as mitigation, from my own knowledge, this if we were to score from a A to F, that
that's like an A, isn't it? that a minus maybe I don't know it just I just think it I know the c you're g you know you're subject to the calculation but in all seriousness um just based on the number of plants and the type of plants and the area you know you're putting back what
will look nicer than what is there now look nicer but um that that as well that's not the priority but it just seems like it's it's an it's a nice application of mitigation yeah I think the uh I I would agree the uh the reg, you know, it's it's u you
know um it's a lot. You guys are gaining a lot by it. It's it's it's a win-win. Uh you know, the the owner gets what he wants, but he does give up quite a bit of green grass lawn and so you get rid of the pesticides, you get rid of the fertilizer, it's better for the environment, it's better for the floor and fauna, and um it's it's what you
folks like to see and it's a I think, like I say, a win-win. Thank you. Anybody else? I missed the trees proposed for removal on the plan. Which ones are they? Just
right next to the addition. There's a couple of trees that are going to be hanging over the addition within the work limit line there. Um so those those two that are going to be hanging over. Yeah, those I don't think those will make it. The insurance company will have us take them down. Okay. Again, they're in the outer. They're not marked for
removal or noted anywhere that they will be removed. You know, I would almost say because I I did catch that and this is in response to the creeping juniper comments. So verbally. No, come on. I took them off
for you. What I'm going to propose is like perhaps uh perhaps you don't have to take those trees out. You could trim them trim them off a little bit. Uh, and if the insurance company does decide that they want to uh say no, no, we can't
uh we can't cover and they're they're willing to send a letter for that. I then I would be willing to see it take the trees out obviously. U but I'm wondering if there's any way they could actually just trim it out. Trim the trim the uh over the the overhanging branches
or the ones that would would be overhanging. Yeah, it looks like they're they're listing a little bit um towards the the building. Uh as trees do, you know, they always try and go over your house because there's a lot of light and air there. But yeah, we'll take a look at it. If there's a way to do it, we'll
absolutely do that. Um um and uh you know, as long as we can prune them back hard so they're not a danger to his sleeping at night. Could you note it on the draw? Could you show them on the drawing? Yeah. Well, they're on the drawing already. So, I think if you just make a note that uh trees to be limbmed
up but not um not not cut uh except if arborist or insurance company requires then that would be okay. Yeah. And if they end up requiring it, you can submit an admin review. Yeah. For approval. And the only other comments I had is that there's two
um spots where the previous owner, whoever lived there, um had been dumping. if when the mitigation plantings go in um some of this debris can be h actually might be pretty tough to remove but there's a pile of leaves that I think you're proposing mitigation
plantings in this in this area um and we'll just make a note it it goes on automatically but no dumping in the mitigation area and no vista pruning um but there are a lot of invasive vines along this edge um I would allow cutting
of vines between the stonewall and the mitigation plants. Yeah, if you could note that as a special condition, we would appreciate or we can certainly come back if if there's a but yeah, because we don't want them to overtake and and they will try to do you put that normally you put that into a special
condition. Special condition. Yeah, if that if the board would be okay with that, I think that would be a very wise move because um that way uh we can keep them in check. That's all. Thank you. Okay. Uh again,
nobody in the audience. Anybody on Zoom for this one? Some board? Would somebody like to make a motion to approve the project with a plan revision just with a note about the
trees at the Northwest the Northwest um addition? Move that. So moved. Second. I'm making all sorts of mistakes here. All right.
Uh all those in favor opposed carries unanimously. Excellent. Thank you for your time. I'll stick around for some of the COC's. No. All right. Uh, next order of business,
request for certificates of compliance. Uh, we've got two eas992 Clifford Vetron, 9 Flakeyard Lane and SE83-2374 Joseph Kennedy 331 Union Street. Uh, do I have a motion to issue
both certificates of compliance for SE83-1992, SE83-2374? So moved. All those in favor? Second. Sorry. Is there a second? No. All those in favor? I opposed. Carries unanimously.
David, Jack. No, it was David and Jack. Yeah, Jack. Yeah. I got to remember which one I'm doing here. Oh, you've got I'll do I'll do these eventually. So 992 is good.
Right. Yeah. 237 2374. And next order of business is uh let's see it's another certificate of compliance for SE83-2138 uh Clifford Betron 9 Flakeyard
Lane. Uh we just have some mitigation issues that need to be corrected. Yeah. So, I did a site inspection and um in the asbel plan, it shows a very there there's 60 square ft of additional um
cover in the form of two small decks on either side of the existing garage. One has a rinsing station and this area on the right side is underplanted. Uh the mitigation plan just called for much more cover in that area and there are
several specimens that have died. Um, so we would I would recommend that the board require the dead specimens be replanted and at least some additional coverage on this right side, which is pretty bare for a mitigation planting area right now. This is that right side. There's
about five plants here, whereas the mitigation planting plan had about 14 plants. Okay. So Dan, you want to uh can you get get some plants in there and then come on back? Yep, that's uh that sounds very appropriate. You know, um you know, it's
uh when we were out there, it wasn't entirely sure that they were dead yet. It hadn't come, you know, another another week or so. So, absolutely, we'll replace the um replace the dead ones. We'll add some new ones on the right. Um so, that would be um per plan.
And then um we'll get the boat out of there, too. You said he had a a kayak or a boat in there. Yeah, that's on the right side. There's just this boat back here in the mitigation area. It could there's plenty of space they could put it behind or inside or on the lawn. Um
try uh for what a month. Is that enough or do you want more time before they um I would say um probably six weeks would be better. Okay. So get them in the 19th. June 19th. No, we have no
meeting on June 19th. Uh Junth, wasn't it? That town hall is closed. Uh how would be are we going to meet on July 3rd? Indeed. Okay. Well, if we have a quorum, well, we'll give you a request if we're the only one
on. How's that? Well, we're going to go continue. We're going to aim for July 3rd. Uh that sound good? Yeah, it's fine. and and as you may recall, he's in with an active order to do work out front. So, we'll be back in front of you. Uh and you'll have plenty more
bites of the apple, but we'll put that on for July 3rd, and we'll make sure he gets everything done by then. And um off we'll go. Okay. So, do I have a motion to continue this COC request till July 3rd? So, moved. A second. Second.
All those in favor? I opposed unanimously. do that. And then uh the last one is a certificate of compliance for SE83-2148
uh Great Island Ocean Club Powers Lane. And we have a continuence request for this. Yes. Untum till July 17th. July 17th. I have a motion to continue to
July 17th. So moved. Second. All those in favor? I opposed. Carries unanimously. Thank you for your time. Right. Thanks, Dan. All right. Moving on to other business.
Uh we have approval of meeting minutes. Uh, I understand that we may actually be able to approve the minutes for December 6th, 2024 if we have a quorum of those who were actually here, which was did not include me. Yes, we do. For
Bradford, that was I think the four of us were here. Yeah. Yes. So far ago, I don't remember. That's the one on a That was a Friday morning. That was the Friday morning. Friday morning when I was here. Yeah, I was here. ready. Okay. So, you
had one, two, three, four. Okay. So, you could do it now. So, would somebody like to make a motion to approve that one for December 6th? I've read them. I'll move them. Nice. I'll second. All right. All those in favor? Opposed? Stand uh
carries unanimously. Uh with a zero four. It's four to zero, right? Uh me and Bradford are abstain or are not the voting and was not on the board. Was not here yet. So
and then do I have a motion to uh approve the minutes for April 17th, 2025. So moved. Second. Is there a second? Thank you. All those in favor? Opposed? Carries unanimously.
All right. Um, any other business that's not reasonably anticipated? Thought Paul did a good job yesterday getting those votes in. Go Paul that one down. We have to sign the need to sign. Oh, is this okay? I
thought it was something I wasn't at. Sorry. I'll I'll echo what I sent in in the email. Um at the annual town meeting, the Chase Brook Park was awarded just under $1.2 million through the CPA and capital budget. Um which is extremely exciting. We expect to bid out
in the fall for construction starting late winter this 2025. Well, you know what? I'm going to ask you, but you don't have to answer. I don't have the answer for the Riverwalk Park. So, everybody, this one coming through the nine flakeyard.
Uh, just sign the top the top uh sheet. Do not sign the bottom. All right. Anything else? If not, uh, would somebody like to like to make a motion to adjurnn? So moved. Is there a second?
I'll second. All those in favor? I opposed. Carries unanimously. We stand adjourned at 620.