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recording in progress. >> Okay. Good evening. We're at the Thursday, July 2nd, Conservation Commission meeting. Um we're both um live and we have a few people on Zoom.

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Um and we're going to begin right away. So, we have a Request for determination or applicability from John Awitz. Shunes. I hope I said that close. >> Yes. >> Come up to the table here if you would. 10 Gardener Lane proposed addition in

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land subject to coal storm flooding. If you could just give us a quick background to what you want to do and we will ask you any questions if we have any. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Go ahead. So, it's a 12,200 square foot ranch,

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and we're looking to add uh an 8 foot by 14t addition to the right front of the ranch to get to give us a little bit more room. It's not an extra bedroom. Um it's to give us some space inside to do

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to build a second bathroom. And the land that it's built on, if you had a chance to look at the front yard, it is a level yard. There you go. Um, so it's between the two right flags there. Yes, it's

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going to come out that 8 feet 14 feet wide. >> And it we show it in the proposed plan there. >> You don't need to take down any trees. >> No. >> Okay.

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Anybody have any questions? >> Paul, you have any questions? >> No. Um, can I >> just a comment on this narrative? Could we have like a letter head or some point of reference? Um, date, anything.

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The >> the RDAs are prepared usually by the homeowner. >> Oh. >> Oh, I'm not looking at you to do it. I just Well, where the applicant just, you know, it have a >> title page mean? >> Yeah. Just so we know what it's talking about. That's all. >> Okay. >> Okay. Thanks.

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>> Okay. Uh, do I have a motion to recommend with a negative two? >> So move. >> Second. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I >> There you go. >> Quick and easy. Can I >> ask a question? Does this mean it's okay? Because I need to get a >> good >> a negative is a good thing.

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>> Okay. >> So, I can apply to the zoning board. I'm past you guys. I don't need any further paper or >> Yeah. So, you can apply to the ZBA and um your building permit will automatically flag me and I'll approve it. >> Thank you very much. Okay, thank you.

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Um, next one is SE831390 BSC group for Joseph Leer 20 perch pond. Wait a minute. I have to sign this. Give me one minute. Okay, now we're ready. >> Good evening, Mr. Chairman, members. For

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the record, my name is Kieran Healey. I'm a land surveyor with the BSC Group representing the owners of number 20 Perch Pond. Uh we were in a couple of weeks ago for a um filing on this and we got approval from the commission. There was an outstanding

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um order conditions from 1997 um that we are now requesting a certificate of compliance for. The order at that time was for the construction of the dwelling and driveway and associated um construction with the building itself. We um located the house as part

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of our previous filing. So we took an overlay from the 1997 plan and um the plan we did ourselves a few months ago. And in general, the house is the same width, but the current house location is

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approximately 10 ft further back from the coastline or from the pond line than what was approved back in 1997. >> There are some there is a deck that is much closer that was not constructed but was permitted and there are a few other small differences where there was a

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patio down at the bottom which wasn't permitted but it is not as far out as what the previous deck allowed them to be. So, in all in all, we think it's less of an intrusion into the wetland buffer. I will ask for the certificate of compliance.

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>> You have any questions? >> I meant to ask you last time, Britney. I apologize. >> Do you have anything for this? >> No. I recommend issuance of the COC. >> Okay. All right. U So, we're going to issue a COC if we vote on it. Can I have

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a motion to issue, Jeff? Second. >> Second. >> Second. Um Ellie. Okay. All in favor? Hi. >> Hi. >> Okay. >> All right. Next one. Um, get to my notes.

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>> Okay. This is um SE83-25 31 DSC group for Steven Catz 703 Route 28 proposed excuse me redevelopment and land subject to coastal storm flood riverfront area and buffer zone to a coastal bank. I think

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this is a continued notice of intent. We have discussed this and you were just going to tell us a couple of things you've done since. >> Again, Mr. Chairman, for the record, my name is Kieran Healey. from a land surveyor with the BSC group representing the owner of the property, Mr. Katz. Um,

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a few items came up at the last meeting that the commission wanted us to discuss. Um, one of them being a, um, planting mitigation plan um, and how we were going to deal with the invasives along the top of the bank that has been submitted to the commission for review.

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Um, another item was the uh clearing along in between certain areas to allow the existing access to the um river for the inhabitants of the town of Yamat that have such rights. Um, another item

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was to show exactly where the limits of our lawn edged and where the limit of the um the area that was going to be maintained by the client, the area that was going to be possibly maintained by the town of Yamat if they choose to uh utilize the

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easement that's there. Um, we are proposing plantings on in within one of the easements, but I think it's an enhancement of the area and we're not going to get in the way of the town's people from enjoying that easement. Uh, one of the other times, one of the other

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items was Miss Tony had asked about uh, one of our area calculations and we had submitted a plan with a very specific red line basically limit identifying the area that we saw as riverfront disturbance. You'll see it right there on the plan. And that is all area that

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within the red that is area that is disturbed with with some form of hardscape black top building of um something built that's not natural. Um what else we got? Um we have you know we have talked to the owner and the owner

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has been cleaning up and removing items. Um it has decreased considerably since the last time I was in here a couple of weeks ago and he is continuously working on the project. Other than that, I'd be glad to answer any questions that you may have. Okay. >> A little bit more detail. Anybody have questions?

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>> Um I I don't know if Britney's going to mention it, but we the soil analysis is is on the there's soil analysis on the document. So there isn't you didn't mention, but there isn't any I don't think we're going to require any soil analysis letter. >> Yeah. Yeah.

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>> Christian's on our board commission and he's an expert on >> Yeah. >> on this and he recommended to do that. >> Yeah. >> Good. >> Anybody else? Jack? >> Yeah. Just um you talk about cutings that maybe you're not taking them off or

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you left it as maybe maybe not taking cutings off of a property. >> The the dispos the um invasive material you're talking about, the invasive plant matter. >> The invasives will be removed. I'm sorry if it was unclear. The invas invasives

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will be removed from the site. We're not going to cut them and leave them now. So, >> except for the I think it says that you'll you'll chip the woody like the autumn olive and the the trees. It says you'll chip them for the paths.

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>> Anybody else? N >> um let's see. You did that. You did that. Um we just want to make sure that you have once a year mowing and uh only and uh

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the it's a right 30 foot foot buffer. Is that where >> Yeah. So the only thing that you didn't provide that we asked for um thank you for separating the separate seed mixes out of the different areas. Um assuming this restoration mix in the 35 ft buffer

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wouldn't be mowed like a lawn. Um >> right. It wouldn't be lo on a regular basis. It' be mowed. Yeah, >> twice a year depending on what >> recommend a special condition limiting it to twice twice a year >> and uh of course no irrigation and no fertilizer. >> Um

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>> could we have temporary irrigation? >> Yeah, temporary irrigation is allowed for the establishment. >> Um and yeah, I'm glad to see that it's being cleaned up. I guess the health department got involved a little bit in that. That was great. So, anything else,

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Britney? >> No, that's all I have. Thank you. >> Anybody in the audience? Anybody online? Raise your hand if you want to make a comment or question. >> Don't see anybody. Okay, we are Is this the one we're

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waiting for? >> Yeah. >> NH NHSP. Um, so >> no, >> that's the next one. >> That's the next one. Okay. Okay. Yes. You told me you're here for two. You lied.

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Okay. Um, okay. So, this is uh Anybody want to make a motion to accept? Jack >> special conditions. >> Second. >> Paul. >> All in favor? >> I. Anybody oppose? Obviously not. Thank you.

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>> Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you, members. >> That's the next one. Next one. SC 83 2443 BSC group for Odessa Capital and Thomas and Linda Fallon 286 LC proposed new dwelling with

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ADU and septic in land subject to coastal storm flood and NHSP habitat and >> oh we have to sign >> glad you're here. Lot of 703 paperwork here. Okay.

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Okay, now we're ready. >> Good evening, Mr. Chairman. For the record, my name is Kieran Healey. I'm a land surveyor with the BSC Group representing the purchases of the property um Odesk Capital. Um we were here before you a couple of weeks ago and we discussed the project. There were

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some items that the um commission wanted us to modify on the plan. Um, one of them being the access way from South Sea Avenue to the toe of the slope. Um, we have proposed that at loose crush stone for that first section and then once it

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starts to get to the hill to get up into the garage, we've proposed pelvis pavement um to allow vehicles to get up easier. Um, we also increased the size of the swailes on the westerly side so that it will run longer along the property line um of the property to the

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west. Um, we also um proposed uh trees. You'll notice a line on the bottom of my plan. Um, we don't have enough space to add a huge mo trees. there is some space in the property and this is the one with the national heritage endangered species

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when we got approval from them back in 2019. Um they had discussed not planting any trees or not planting anything outside the southern limit and that's pretty much the same limit as we have. The fence that you'll see on the northeast side is the same fence

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location that we had approved by the NH back in 2019. So, as a result, we're kind of limited in the space of where we can place plant trees. We are proposing seven pitch pines and we are proposing six black oaks on the property. So, it's those are

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all been added since our meeting um two weeks ago. Um we also were able to pull in the work limit line and reduce some of the um pine trees that were going to be removed on the um southeast corner. So, um other than that, I'd be glad to

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answer any questions. We've attempted to uh answer everything that the commission had required. >> Um anybody >> just the southeast corner which which ones are rem there was a lot of marks. I wasn't sure which >> basically you can see where the walk

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limit line which is the bold dash line. There's some to the um southeast of that line which are going to be removed basically three pines. >> Okay. And the ones inside it, um, they hit the toe of the slope and they're just too close to the building for us to keep those ones, but we are keeping the

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the one we are eliminating the ones to the left of that line and trying to keep the ones to the right of that line. >> Um, so I see one remaining. I'm confused. >> There's actually three remaining three separate. They're very close together. They're pitch. >> Okay.

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All right. Can we ask? >> No, I know. I just >> Nothing Paul. >> Um, so waiting for NHSP, but we did talk about uh approving pending the report.

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Um, Britney, you want to add anything? >> Yeah, we got a um a late breaking comment from an abutter that we sent to you today. They requested that the swale be expanded to the edge of the property line. Um it is best practice to contain all storm water on site. Do you think

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that the swale that you've designed is sufficient to do that? >> Um we do. The reason being is that the slope is greater on that side where we put the swale but on the as you go to the east it begins to peter out and the slope just slows down if you will. It's less steep. So we don't expect water to

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flood onto the neighbor's property which was their concern. But we did put it where the uh slope is steepest to capture anything that might come in that area. >> Okay. So, you think that this slope is planned to just be vegetated with grass and then these two trees at the bottom. You think that that's enough to contain

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the storm water on site? >> Yes. >> Okay. Um my only other comment would be that um the trees go in at our standard size 1.5 caliber inches. Um as a special condition, I'd recommend including that.

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And um it also give you freedom to switch out pitch pines for any other native trees with approval by the commission. Um sometimes they don't survive very well because of their roots being planted. But >> thank you. >> With that, I would recommend issuance

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pending NHSP comment with those special conditions. >> Anybody in the audience have anything to ask or say? Anybody on Zoom? raise your hand. Okay. Can I hear a motion to accept

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pending NHSP report which uh then will have final approval by the administrator? >> Yeah. >> Okay. Second call. Have all in favor? >> I. >> Okay. Thank you.

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>> Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you, members. >> Enjoy your weekend. >> Thanks for the trees. Okay. >> All right. >> Okay. Um, >> thank you.

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>> Next one is SE832539, excuse me. Shorefront consulting for Barry and Judy Lass, Seven Tide Lane. proposed reconstruction of a seaw wall and riverfront area land under the ocean and land subject to coastal storm flooding.

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>> Yes, thank you. For the record, Mark Burgess of Shorefront Consulting representing the lasses for this bulkhead replacement project. U this one's simple bulkhead replacement, same height, same location, no expansion, no difference.

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Just replacing the wood with vinyl and uh walk away. would be my presentation. >> That may be a record for you. >> I know >> this is a simple one. >> Okay. Well, now you got to wait for me for a second. Okay.

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>> How many people have been to the site? >> I I didn't get out there. >> Um Okay. Um anybody have any questions? >> Nope. >> Just clarity on what happens behind um

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should point the uh where the gravel is there. >> Where the gravel? >> Yeah. What does that >> all gets back excavated? >> Okay. >> You have to relieve the pressure on the wall to be able to remove it. >> And then you in sections you take out the wood, put in the vinyl hopefully in the same day. No more than you can do in

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the same day. And then they will back fill that back up. >> That's a perfect example of a wood a wood timber wall failing with the gravel uh sink holes there. >> Yeah, the sink holes. Um the design buries those anchors so they won't be exposed. That's a hazard.

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>> And you have no concern about the sink holes or in the sink holes don't concern you. >> Well, not not just yet. I mean, I've seen a lot worse than that. So, but this is in the process of failing. >> I wouldn't say that it's a mouse trap or it's imminent, but this is a good time

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to get it done. >> You can only fill it, you know, you can go after and fill it with gravel year after year, but So, it's an active failure. >> Pretty hard to >> pretty hard to look at underneath there,

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of course, and see what's really there. >> Well, if you dare to go on the floats, you look >> there's that >> floats are pretty rickety. I think that's my picture. >> Oh, it's my picture. I went down there. >> Adventurous >> probably. So you see is there any

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possibility of surprises that >> there's always a possibility of surprise more when you dig up behind because you never know what was there put in there you might find Jimmy Hawa or something who knows >> but no generally if the sheeting went down and you're going in the same spot

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the new sheeting should go right right down. >> So I haven't had I've had very very few instances of replacements where they've hit obstructions. a nice clean job. >> Why aren't we planting rather than have stones?

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>> I know. Um, so we didn't offer mitigation because this isn't anything new. Nothing's changing. We're just maintaining what's there. So what's intended is to put a two-ft gravel buffer back. Now, this is a low site, so plantings again at a certain

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height will get get flooded and may or may not survive. But we just had planned to put it back the way it was originally done. The stone's likely to um dissipate if there's flooding >> stone. >> Yeah, >> it sinks. It won't it won't go anywhere.

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>> Okay. >> And I do specify um that the grade behind the wall was 6 in lower than the top of the sheeting and that helps um things from floating away. >> Okay. Anybody else?

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Britney? >> Yeah, I think there always should be an attempt to improve the site. Um it's not in our regulations right now, but it is generally been past policy to plant a buffer when we replace walls. Um I would definitely recommend we add that directly to our regulations to have a standard wall. So we are as these get

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replaced, we are periodically improving the waterway with vegetative buffers instead of just putting back the gravel. That's not a preferred alternative at the time. Um so yeah, if they want to do a twoft grass or a vegetated buffer instead, that would be appreciated, but

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Okay. And are we still pending a uh stamped plan? >> Yes, we need a stamped plan. >> This one? >> Yeah. You gave us a draft plan. >> Oh, for the Oh, that's right. Okay. I'm sorry. That slipped my mind. Um, yes,

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Britney pointed out that the gravel buffer wasn't shown in the plan, so I had provided a draft revision to her pending and pending this meeting. So everything if everything's cool then we'll get you a stamped original. >> Anybody in the audience comments,

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questions? >> DMF comments were regular? >> Yeah, DMF had their standard comments really. >> Nothing spectacular. >> No time of year restrictions, but all those will be included.

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>> Anybody on Zoom? There's only one person left. Nope. Okay. Um, one thing. Yeah, just for the record, I was out to that property. I said it wasn't, but I saw my picture, so I guess

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I was. >> Those your feet. Sorry. >> Like, this isn't a manicured lawn. It's It's as much of a Cape Cod lawn. They don't do anything to >> I guess. Have we done the the the um this

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mitigation elsewhere, Britney? >> Yeah. >> What what were the plantings used or >> Yeah, there are plenty of salt tolerant vegetated um native plants that would survive. >> Absolutely. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> We we'd appreciate if you talk to your

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client about plantings. So, >> promise I will I will ask. >> Yeah. Instead of backfilling gravel, I mean, but >> look prettier. Yeah. Well, if they if they wanted to replace two feet of gravel with with some plants, >> everybody wins. >> Yeah, >> I will certainly ask them.

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>> Appreciate that. >> I'm not sure how they're how long they're around as far as you can see. The lawn is not watered or anything. >> Well, we're in Yarmouth. We're not supposed to be watered anyway. We have a drought and uh nobody's supposed to be watering anything. >> Anything. Huh?

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>> N um water vegetables and flowers. water by hand but not by >> irrigation. >> So how what do you just a question what do you guys do about temporary irrigation then for for new >> they could do drip lawns

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>> allowed >> that is allowed yeah >> you have to do that but then otherwise no >> no lawn watering is allowed >> in spite of when you drive around see these green lawns and I drive walk around and see people still doing it but

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>> we need to do a better job of getting it out so Um, pending a stamp plan. Um, would you like to make a motion? >> Could we add possible plantings? Just for the record, just to kind of intrigued by that. So, >> yeah.

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>> Yeah. >> I mean, are you requesting plantings or are you requiring plantings? >> Can't require. >> I mean, you want an improvement to the area, but >> I promise I will ask them. >> Okay. Wood vigor.

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>> Woodfiger. >> All right. So moved. Is that Did you ask a motion? Okay. I'll move. >> Second. All in favor? >> I >> I opposed. >> Okay.

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Keep on saying this is tidy, not tidy. >> The other two are continuences. So you >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> We're going to take those at the same time. >> Okay. So the next two SE83 2534 14 Compass Drive and SE832540

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143 Mayflower Terrace needs to be continued to 716. Do I hear a motion to do so? So move Jack second. Paul all in favor. >> Okay, that was a quick one. All right, thank you.

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All right, moving to number eight. Um can I ask a question? >> Yeah. >> So on these um it doesn't concern specific that specific application but generally speaking in these um seaw wall um

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retrofits replacements you had mentioned at one point Britney that we could ask for like a second opinion on the impact of what this is doing. >> Could could I request that or how does that happen? >> Yeah, absolutely. The commission could

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vote on any on that at any application. We >> specific application. >> Yeah, we're waiting for one actually for one of Mark's projects at 166 Blue Rock Road that you'll have for our next meeting. >> So, you'll kind of get a gist of what >> Oh, okay. >> what it's like, what what he gives you. >> Um >> Okay.

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>> So, would it be better to do it before they come in front of us or do we have to wait till they come in front of us? >> No, you can do it at any once we have a full application. >> Okay. >> Um it just depends on Yeah. >> Okay. Okay, thank you. All

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>> right, next one is SE8325 42 Merrill for ABL Realy Trust Nicola Nicola and Andrea Mariano for 17 Thornton Brook Road. I can read proposed raise and replace of a dwelling in

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Riverfront area and a buffer zone to BVW. >> Good evening. I'm Paul Power representing the uh owner 17 Thornon Brook Road for a uh demolition and uh a new build on a the exact footprint of the existing

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home. >> Um are you with Merrill Engineers? >> No, I'm I'm the contractor. >> All right. Um well, I have a question. How we had we're a little confused about what trees are staying.

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So, I came in to talk to Joe earlier today and um my concern when I walked the property again today was um on the corner of the back um four season room. I'm worried about the overdig

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um tree to the right in the right hand corner. >> Yeah. Um I'm concerned about the roots with the overdig. How much overdig do you need? >> Generally like four feet, but um you might not be able to get the four feet.

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Could also do a one-sided core. >> Okay. So, it's a 12in oak. I think I remember that tree. Or maybe I have a photo. But >> again, Britney. >> Um so, but the the other ones you're able to protect. >> Yes. >> These other ones. Okay. So, for that

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just 12-in tree, then um we just require replacement elsewhere on the site. Probably since it's a 12-in oak, probably two or three um native trees, they can go away close to the buffer. >> Remember correctly, that was a big

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property, right? >> Yeah. So, I'll just >> um Okay. And so I'll just um recommend to the commission like earlier a 1.5 caliber per inch um native oak and three of them to replace that one. If you end

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up not needing to remove it, >> okay, >> don't need to do that. Um >> do we need to get a just a small >> a revision with the X on that tree or a note? >> Yeah. And uh but we could still approve it pending sending

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>> if that's the only small. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Anybody have a question? Okay. Um, >> oh, I do. Sorry. >> That's okay. >> No, I was looking at my notes. Sorry. There was a lot of talk or notes about the existing septic system and at one

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point it had the grade uh is the grade of that known or not? It was a little bit disconcerning. >> I'd have to I'd have to talk to them. >> It's okay. I was just it it will be verified when you start escavating but it kind because things are tying.

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>> Yeah. >> Okay. That's all. >> Okay. Good question. Anybody else? Do you have anything else, Britney? >> Um no, just another typical special condition because the whole site's in the riverfront area. Um our current

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regulations don't allow permanent irrigation or fertilizers within the riverfront area. So that will be included as a special condition. That's all. And I would recommend issuance pending the revised plan showing the tree removal >> and the new and where the new trees are going.

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>> And yeah, the location of new trees. >> Very nice application. It's very professional. The notice of intent. >> Very pretty area, too. >> Very impressed. >> That's why the homeowner is choosing to rebuild. >> Yeah. Do I hear a motion to accept with

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special conditions and pending a um revised um planning plant to Britney? >> So move Jack. Second. >> Second. >> Second. All in favor? >> Okay. Thank you. Thank you very much. I

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also agree with um with Ellie. It was really a nice to be able to look at >> you. >> Nice application for a nice yard. manif. >> Yeah. Okay.

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>> All right. Uh that goes here that one. Um >> next one. Um I will a um continue. Right. Okay. So, next one

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is um Cape Cod Engineering for Lisa Garcia and Miriam Keeler 689 Willow Street after the fact filing for patio and riverfront area land subject to coastal storm flooding and a buffer zone to a BVW. They ask for a continuence to

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760. Can I hear a motion to continue? >> Move. Paul second. >> Jack. Okay. All in favor? >> I. >> Okay. So now we get down to the last two. Wow.

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>> All right. We hope uh SE83 244 Cape Down Cape Engineering for Karen and Wayne Roberts 42 mil lane proposed additions in land and patio and land subject for coastal storm flooding and buffer zones to BVW and salt marsh. And

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this is again 42 Mil Lane. Good evening, uh, chair, members of the commission. For the record, Dan Ojula with Down Cape Engineering. I'm a land surveyor and civil engineer and, uh, uh, helping the Roberts out with a modest addition at their home uh, beautiful

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area, Mil Lane, there in Yarmouthport. Very scenic. Um the um um affecting the area there's land subject to coastal storm flowage and then um a gentle gentle slope so no banks but we're looking at a salt marsh with a um a thin

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veneer of wetland. Um Britney had uh Brad Hall go out there and uh do some augers and uh at that time we adjusted the plan a little more than a week ago to um to move the the little fringe wetland up upgrading of the salt marsh.

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At first he had just done the salt marsh probably a little bit conservatively and uh and then um so we adjusted that did the augur holes. Um the um impact was negligible. were outside of the 50 with the work. Uh and um the 50 to100 was

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basically the same. So small additions um and you get a nice little amount of mitigation there. So we're pulling up lawn putting down a good amount of mitigation. Um and uh the calculations are all broken out per your per your request existing proposed net change and

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the proposed mitigation. Um so looking at uh about 910 square foot of mitigation um for the small amount of structures that are that are going in about 455 in the

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5 to100 and um that's 149 um minor structures and and things like that. So that change is easily compensated for by the 910 square foot of mitigation. Um that would be about it. It's a pretty clean site. Be

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glad to answer any questions if you have them. >> Okay. Anybody questions? >> Go ahead. >> Me? Okay. Um, hi. Sorry if this information is somewhere else other than what I have physically here, but um

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where will the runoff from the I assume there's a new roof of some sort? Is it just where would that run off? >> Sure. So um to mitigate against that we're proposed gutters and downspouts uh to a dry well. Um the dry well is shown in the front yard. It's outside of the

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50 by a small amount. >> There's a dry. >> Um so yeah, if you're looking at the plan here that it's called out there. We did give the option for French drains uh on as as the note uh mentioned on note five um because some people like to run

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a a French drain which is a lot of leeching area instead. But we show a drywill. I think that's probably preferred. >> Okay. And just two more. What What material will the patio be made from? Is it um will be permeable? The patio?

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>> Um I do not know. I mean, we counted as hardcape. Um >> yes. >> Um if you'd like. Um you know, we can certainly do open joint pavers to help infiltrate some if that's >> Yeah, I think dry laid would be preferred.

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>> Dry. I think that should be fine. >> Okay. And then lastly, um I I guess I don't foresee much, but the um the construction equipment will I mean obviously remain outside the protected areas, and you're cognizant of all that,

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I'm sure. >> Yeah, the work limit line will will be a nice uh you know, clarification on where where where they can and cannot disturb. And they're pretty modest little additions, so that that should work well. Yeah, I was more curious about access.

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It's like how do you get around that? >> It's a little tight, but there's lawn there and and yeah, it's uh they'll have to >> walk around that little wall that's there. But yeah, >> beautiful area >> and that wall is remaining. >> Yeah.

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>> Um my only comment was uh when we went out there, there were several areas where they're dumping leaves, >> grass clippings in the wetland. Yeah, you be we'll be happy to clean that up >> clean that up and and uh not do that again. >> Yeah, I think that some of that's in the

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mitigation area, so that'll be taken care of eventually, but we'll certainly note to them to uh run to the dump instead of the that leaving them there. Yep. >> Anybody else? >> That was my only com. >> Okay.

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>> Didn't mean to steal it from you. >> No, that's fine. Want to emphasize it. You have anything, Britney? >> Um, no, that was all there was. Yeah, the dumping in the three or four spots has to be cleaned up and um that would

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be preferred prior to the start of work if we can get photos that that's been done before the work begins. Um, and if they could store I think there was some odds and ends back behind the shed if they could store them in the shed or outside of the the 50 foot buffer just

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because it is an area that will that's well inundated occasionally. Um, but other than that, I' I'd recommend issuance with special conditions, >> including um Oh, we're in the riparian. No irrigation and fertilizer in the

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riparian area. >> Anybody in the audience? Anybody online? >> I don't see anybody. Can I have a motion to accept uh with special conditions um and proof before any work is done that the

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dumpings have been cleaned up? >> So moved. >> Second. Somebody >> second. >> Okay. All in favor? >> I >> All right. Look at this. I even remember to sign it. >> So far so good.

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All right. Next one is SE832546 Downcape Engineering for Allen and Julia Shaw Cross 60 Ice House Road proposed shed in the buffer zone for BBW.

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Let me just get that out before you start. How small this pile right now we're ready. Good evening. Dan Oila, surveyor and civil engineer with Down Cape Engineering in Yarmouthport. Um and uh this one is uh as you note on the site

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plan in the original application started out as a garage and a shed and uh the owners changed their mind and so it's it's reduced to just simply a very small shed right now. So just about an RDA type filing but because it's close uh we

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figured we should leave it as a NOI. you've got your that way you can do the mitigation uh calculations and um you can see on the June 23rd 26 we reduced the project to just a shed um you know it's 10 by6 shed so it's under the 200

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that uh doesn't need much u but and it's up uh elevation 15 or so the flood zone um is minimal up where the house is uh it's long pond area so fresh water not not a huge

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chance of flooding there. Um the mitigation I think is a win for for for the town. Um we're proposing to offset that shed which is outside of the 50 with pulling up lawn and putting in 363 square foot of plantings. Uh Andrew Gerley, who's a landscape architect that

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worked with us, um works with us, uh has stamped a plan and u that's also updated June 23rd, 26 um which uh shows how that lawn will be removed and and putting in

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four ink berries, five sweet pepper bush, and four high bush blueberries. So good for the pollinators, good for the buffer, and uh all you're getting on the downside is a small shed in a lawn area. So, easy easy easy approval. I think be glad to answer any questions you have.

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>> Okay. Um, anybody have any questions on this? >> Britney, you have anything you want to add? >> Yeah, just our only question when we were on site was just this for visualization of where the shed was going because they were not where the shed was proposed. Just curious

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>> somebody playing with blocks in there. >> Yeah, I that's new to me. I think that was Yeah, probably just somebody thinking about ID. Yeah. >> Okay. All right. >> We'll make sure they only do what's what's allowed the 10 x 16. >> Yeah.

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>> And no irrigation in the 50 that. >> Anything else, Britney? >> If you're requiring that of everybody and is that um is that um >> it's in our regulations, >> Reg? Yeah. U and it doesn't matter

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whether you have um drip line or not or is it >> um it's just permanent irrigation for lawns. >> So even even a drip system would be unacceptable which is hard. >> Would you drip a lawn? >> You can do them um if you do a lot of

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them but uh it's kind of a a workaround. I guess you'd have to do a grid of them. Um okay. >> Well, you're talking about a lawn in the town right now. So just If you could do drip irrigation is a lot more efficient because you're not blowing it in the air >> lawns

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>> for a lawn. So that's the that's the >> no irrigation, no watering of lawns, hand watering or anything. >> There's a um at the um and I haven't seen it myself, but the only good lawn at the uh septic treatment center is the one uh drip irrigation field is growing

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beautifully and uh so that's kind of a win-win, but uh I suppose that would be a special exception. >> So is it right over my septic? Yes, that makes sense. >> Don't tell the health department that. >> Um, yeah, I hadn't considered that as an option, but right now it's just broad in

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the regulations, just no permanent irrigation. Um, obviously a lot of the systems are in place and in use. Um, so we're just trying to regulate all our new projects and see how that works.

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>> Okay. Anybody online have anything to ask or say? Okay, I don't see anybody. So, um, do I hear a motion? Check my notes. Motion to accept. Um,

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>> yeah. So, moved. It's a nice mitigation project. >> Second. Second, Jack. All in favor? >> Okay. >> All right. Excellent. Appreciate your time and have a great fourth. Thank you. Okay, I remember the 200th and now we

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got the two 250th. So, >> they'll be around for another one of those, but >> we don't need that. We don't need that. We don't need that. Okay. Um, I signed it. Yep.

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Um, >> car washing address like washing your car. Is that in another reg? >> It says no. All non-essential water use is banned except for this list of things. Um, which that's

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>> which is allowed. >> Yeah, this is all allowed. >> But car washing is not included. >> You can you can handwater your plants. >> Yes. Yeah. your garden. If it says um >> vegetables and flowers, >> yeah, vegetables, but it does it require

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hand watering of vegetables. >> No, it says hand watering or um sorry, watering of ornamentals and flower gardens with drip irrigation, handheld or watering cans is allowed >> or how about but then um it says specifically something about vegetable

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gardens. I think item C. >> Okay. For the production of food including vegetable gardens. Yeah. So that's an exception. So you can have a timer on your irrigation. >> You could have an oscillating sprinkler, for example. >> Yeah, it appears that way. >> Oh, good.

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>> Don't touch your >> huh? >> Don't touch your lawn. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So for clarity, all lawn watering is prohibited at all times unless it falls into one of these exceptions under the mass D non-essential water use exceptions because we're in a

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significant drought. I know Barnstable's doing it, but are other towns in the Cape following this? Aren't they also in a level two? >> Yeah, the whole Cape is >> right. So, are I just curious more than >> I don't know how to >> I don't want to keep keep shadow. I

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don't know about this. big howitches. >> It seems like every town's doing it a little differently, but they are statewide regulations, so they they shouldn't be in theory any different from each other, but um it seems that they may have differing levels of enforcement, >> right? And I went around my normal walk

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yesterday and there were 22 houses who were obviously watering >> delegation. But you know it's the part of the problem is uh communication too. I mean some people are not here. They were told Wednesdays is fine and yesterday was

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Wednesday. So that could be it too. Anyway, um can I hear a motion to you have anything else? >> Yeah, we have minutes. >> No, we don't. >> No. What's wrong with them? >> Nothing's wrong. >> Not on the agenda. >> Just didn't make the agenda.

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>> We'll we'll vote on it next time. >> I'm sorry. Why not? >> Because it's not on the agenda. >> Well, okay. It says any >> not reasonably anticipated. >> Well, but that is anticipated. Just not ready yet.

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>> All right. Okay. Um two things of minutes. Not unusual for us to have. >> Yeah. >> Two minutes. >> Can I just ask why Willow Street was continued? >> They request >> just requested. Okay. >> They want a full board. I told them we might have a quorum issue and they said

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they want three. They and they're allowed to continue for >> Okay. Do I have a motion to adjurnn? >> So move.