Welcome to the regular meeting of the library building committee. It's January 22nd, 2026 and we are at the South Yarmouth Library tonight. This is a hybrid meeting, so we will do roll call
attendance. Uh Tom Pendleton >> here. >> John Graco here. >> Janetto >> here. Um Judy Connor's Tarver. So we do have four people and we are at quorum and I just saw Dorcas walk in. So Dorcas
McGura here is also present. Uh absent tonight are Sandy Fe and Susan Brid. Thank you everyone. >> And do we have anyone on? >> Nobody's remote yet. Okay. I'm gonna say
yes. Uh Matt will not be here and Jen and Tim also had another commitment. >> So we're going to move right into minutes and we have the minutes of January 8th.
>> I I didn't have anything myself but could I have >> could I have a motion to >> my own comment is spelling of my name. >> Okay. editorial, but that's my number. >> No, no, that's good. It looks I went right over it. Okay.
>> I have a motion that we accept the minutes of January 8th. >> Thank you. >> Second that. >> Thank you, John. All right. >> Okay. >> And she pro she probably has that like she just copies it over so it's always
>> it's consistently inconsistent. >> Yes. Always consistently. It's built multiple different ways. >> Oh, okay. >> All right. Okay. So, we'll get that corrected. And anything else on January 8 minutes?
Okay. And we need a roll call vote on accepting these minutes. And yes, if you can vote on minutes even if you aren't present at a meeting. Um, so Tom. >> Hi, >> Don. Hi Vicky,
>> you can abstain if you're uncomfortable. >> Yeah, because I wasn't here. >> Oh, that's okay. You can abstain. >> Hi. >> Thank you, Dorcas. Um, motion carries. So, move into the >> minutes of the 15th. And I'd like a
motion to accept these, please. >> So, move motion to accept the January 15 minutes. >> Thank you, Tom. I have a second. Okay, John. All right. And I didn't have anything on
these either. >> Did anybody else know? >> My editorial. >> Yes. Okay. >> Okay. >> All right. All right. >> Comment comment to Sandy that John's name needs to be corrected.
Okay. Um, all right. So, we'll do a roll call vote on accepting these with a spelling correction to John's name. >> Okay. Tom, >> hi. >> John, >> hi. >> Vicki,
so you say abstain. >> Okay. And Dorcas. >> Hi. >> Thank you. Motion carries. All right. Lovely. Hi. You chose to join us at the table. Okay. All right. Well, you're welcome if if the spirit moves and you'd like to
change location. >> We don't like All right. So, we're moving into our public comment section. And we have any public comment tonight? >> Not yet.
>> Not yet. After tomorrow. >> Okay. Okay. Thank you. >> All right. So, we do have a bunch of updates that we can be talking about. And
just here on item number four, the newcomers group that meets at the senior center has said that we can have a table that's a table event for us um on March 18th and that would be
uh I don't have the details right in front of me, but I think it's arriving at 5:30 to set up for six o'clock, >> right? And they give you an hour >> and so you can be just be present and hobnob. >> Exactly. >> Uh so I think that that will be
definitely a time for us to have the boards with us. Not these since they seem to be mounted, but the ones at town hall. >> No, we have both. >> Oh, okay. And so we'll need the easels and you know that sort of thing, but we'll when that gets closer, that's
still a bit away. Um but that'll be a nice opportunity. I think the timing is really good, March 18th. Um because we'll be coming up on our presentation to the select board on March 24th. So that'll be a good group of folks to and
then on February 1st, this page break was kind of funny, but that's for the PTO from the middle school and they're having an ice skating event. So, this is actually at the Tony Ken Arena and they
said we have a stable there. So, that'll be kind of fun. Mindy will be there. Um, but she'll be skating. I will not be skating. Um,
what time is that? Uh, >> that's an evening thing, too. Like 6 to 8. It's a Sunday evening. Yeah. >> Is it earlier? >> March 18th. >> I think it's about the same time frame.
Maybe 5:30. But I'll get all of those details out to everyone. >> Great. >> So, you can make commitments for which which fun things you'd like to attend. That one actually sounds like a great deal. I I would like it if we could have
maybe a few extra people at the PTO one because that's the population we keep saying we're missing the parents and so if we have more people available to talk >> um we might be able to do that. I don't
know anybody have their skates all sharpened. >> No. Okay. Um, Rotary was mine and I did not get a a call back from them. And the chamber was
Susan and she did hear back and I'm going to have to pull up her response here. I think it was a similar thing of Uh we could we could come and
have a table. See, >> is that their breakfast or their normal? >> Um well, the chamber is different from Rotary. >> Oh, okay. >> Yeah. >> Well, I'm not finding it, but it's it's still kind of loose. And they and they
were let me see if I can remember this. I think they would give 10 minutes for a presentation and looking at Marchish. >> All right. So, I'm sorry that she wasn't here to
that. Okay. Were there others that we had? Anybody else have any feedback on >> I did reach out to St. Pas women's club. >> Oh yeah. >> They are all booked till after April. So they had no they had no openings for
speakers till after May. >> Oh wow. Active group. Okay. >> Um I'm thinking there was one other >> St. David's have a group. >> I don't know. We didn't specifically
assign anybody to call the churches. So, um, we we kind of generated their names is Richard Banks is the contact person at St. David's. Um, but we didn't have somebody from our work group who was
specifically going to do that. >> Do you have his number? >> I do not. Is it >> Richard Banks? >> Yeah. Do you have it in cookies? I'm sure I can find it. Okay. Yeah. >> Thank you. >> That's where we were married. So
>> I can get an in. >> Although I haven't been there since. >> We don't need. >> All right. I feel like there was one other that we were
Oh, I know the schools. So, I reached out to Tomas, who's the president of the school committee, and he put me to Mark Smith, who's a super, and
he said he does a um a blast to parents every other week. He's doing one tomorrow, but uh so every other week he would be willing to do something. Now we've been working, we
Linda and I and other people have chimed in. Mindy chimed in on that back page. >> So um I think that's with you two right now, right? The edits for that. And once that
gets firmed up, I think then we can start releasing that. My thinking would be um a couple of paragraphs each time. Not to overload people like here's somebody um I I'm talking about through the
schools. I always should have the whole thing, but just to >> or you take a couple questions each time and just post it >> and then have send them out. >> Yeah, >> I think that would be good because it's He said he has a section called community happening.
>> Yeah. >> So that's perfect. >> Even link to it. >> Oh, I'm sure he could. >> You know, he could just say if you have, you know, here are some frequently asked questions. >> Yeah. >> If people are interested in learning more about the project and then I'm sure
he sends it, you know, email so you can probably just link it. >> Yeah. But but within the paragraph, you know, add a couple sentence that are also in the >> you should have some hooks. Yeah. And what? Yeah. And then
>> so when that gets ironed out >> Yeah. >> Um then we can get to him. I wasn't thinking we would have anything ready for tomorrow, but um but I think you know the >> um
>> great. So then maybe snow as a as my excuse to >> then I'll have you back, you know, you review it and Dave Dave do it and then we can you can keep adding to it based on the feedback that you see we get a
lot of questions about, you know, something that maybe is not on there. We can just keep adding, >> right? I think even just working on it, >> we we generated think, oh, maybe we should Right. So that's good. Okay. So
what kind of ballpark today's the 22nd 23rd? So what does that end up being? February 6th or something like that for four months. That's Yeah. So if we could do
that, I think that would be great. And then that would dubtail nicely with getting out to the PTO activity and because that's February 1st. So then it's followed up with something else.
Again, that was the the population that we were told we weren't communicating well with. So um Okay. All right. So, so St. Pas is full.
Mom's going to talk to St. David's. And then, >> so my other goal is this week is to meet with and try to set up a meeting with what was it? Lori Lori. >> Lori.
>> Lori. >> And get on her schedule for the podcast. >> Okay. >> And early early to midFebruary. So my question here is do we want to develop the questions or do we want to allow her giving her the information to
develop the questions? >> Well, she'll have access to this and I think she should be able to get the most out of that. >> Okay. >> When I talk to her, I'll ask her. >> It's really
she gives me the questions early then I can cheat. you have much prepared answers more than happy to you know work on the questions you know >> some introductory questions and then more in depth about the project >> okay
>> and she'll have some questions about what's your favorite silly question >> talk about cookies right now >> so um we were we thinking about doing a couple of podcasts with different
>> we can do that. >> So that that might just be a topic for her like how does she want to break them up? >> Yeah. When I meet with her, I'll ask her, you know, if we do a succession of podcasts, you know, how many and how frequent and do we want to address
different aspects of the program at each podcast? >> Um, >> and can she incorporate >> can she incorporate the information off the boards? I can ask. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Could I be on one of those or is
that gonna be You're welcome. >> Oh, can you be on talk about you know >> you shouldn't be You don't advocate for a yes or no vote. You're just giving information about the project. >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, what I was thinking
was um talking about it in terms of like these are some of the things that this facility would allow us to do, right? These programs, the you know, stuff like that. Um but >> we're actually under the same restrictions you are.
>> Yeah. I just never you know, >> people have different comfort levels. Yes. >> You know, what appears to be proper and what does not and that's why I try to be very careful of those things. Although we're in
in speaking with Richard Simon, I did get some clarification on how far we can go. And it's really it we can go farther than we anticipated in terms of what we can say and not say and how much we can
kind of pull the local community because you were there last Friday, right? Mhm. >> So he talked to the state the attorney general's office on the on the ethics committee and got some feedback and as long as we you know stayed up front you
know who we are and what we're with you we're pretty much free to do quite a bit but I'll get some more information. >> What's the red line advocating for any particular vote >> a vote one way correct? >> Yeah we can't do that. raising money is
really not that much of an issue, but asking for Right. >> Um, >> using different >> I'm sorry employees, but >> they're not allowed. >> Yeah. Sorry, you're
>> great. I really I really um veer toward David's position of you know always wanting it to look like >> we are yeah we are on the up and up and we are doing what we're supposed to be doing because we are doing what we're
supposed to be doing and um and we can advocate for people to come out to vote for sure always um but not what to vote for Uh, all right. Let's see. I I want to
get back to >> Fincom, >> but as far as any more updates on item four, do we have any more updates or commit new upcoming commitments?
I realized in looking at Sandy's minutes because I didn't have it in my own notes that I was supposed to contact the senior center. So that's on my list for this week. I did not approve that. Um so even though the newcomers meets at
the senior center, it's a different slate of activities. Yeah. >> Okay. So moving on to number five. Uh formulating a list of outreach locations. This kind of ties into printing up more trifolds too. where um
so I want to digress to that first. Where are we on the trifold update? Do you happen to know? >> I don't. I can check in with them tomorrow. >> Okay. So,
um let's see. I don't I'm not sure how to explain this exactly, but um until we had Amy. We were kind of floundering around and just like making things happen up at
town hall and then uh several of us were working on some updates and I went uh and sent information to Lori Sullivan which ended up my words an end run around Amy uh because
she's our town rep and and David certainly So those folks can't have everybody in every committee coming at them with information and trying to sort that all out and answer their questions. And I
totally understand that. So it kind of pulled back on that stuff and it's with Amy now. Uh the what I'm not I'm having trouble with the trifold though because I think that was another thing Linda and I worked together on and we sent stuff
to Mindy and Rebecca. So I think it's just sitting there because I didn't even want to send a query out on status. It was just like okay I'm just going to step back until we have our meeting.
>> So it's probably there. We just had info, right? >> Something was um duplicated and something was left out. It wasn't >> they figured that out >> in the timeline. >> In the timeline, we updated and worked online. >> Yeah, I think it is.
>> Okay. So, what we would need is some trifolds printed wherever those are going to come from. And we've been getting like 100 150 at a time. And then those would go to the two the
two libraries need to have them. And then the senior center. Any place else though, folks? Where do you go? You know, where do you see things? >> How about at town hall beers and everything? >> Yeah, those are the three I'm sorry, the
two libraries in town hall. >> First time around, I brought them up to one. Um, >> could we do >> Yeah. I mean, they're voters. We need to get information. >> Yeah. >> Chamber. >> The chamber took them last time, too.
That's right. Yeah. >> Senior Center. Yeah, they they took them. I don't know if they did. Um, and I don't know if they ran out or they used to have like a stand. >> They still do. >> They still had
>> there. Well, I have to make a phone call anyway. So, >> yeah, >> it's hard to figure out other places that are not more business related. Yeah, these are
not that many non-b businessiness related spots that you could actually put fly. >> That's federal, but it can't be done. In the old days, yes, but not anymore. >> I mean, although they do have their bulletin board, but you can put up a
business card, but you can't do anything else. >> I see a lot of business cards. >> All right. Well, we'll have plenty. So, we want to get them out there and then >> I don't have any. >> I'm sorry.
>> Right. So, um, because we just re re-edited them. So, >> yes. So, David will have you'll have those first. Thank you. Um, okay. So, let's move on to six here. And
do we have any other outreach activities that we um are thinking about? because let's see, we talked about having like an information session like we had had before in March. I don't know if that's still a good time for us.
>> I thought we kind of decided that was not >> needed >> needed. Yeah. >> Between between finance and the board of selection, that's basically your information session. That also combined with talking with Bob about when he does
his um >> right >> preview of town meeting. >> When does he do that? >> Um to answer the question um >> I would say that he's probably doing it toward the end of March. I would think
probably it would be our select board meeting on the 24th and then I think after that would be >> and I'm curious how does he do that? How's he does it at your select board meeting or he does it in >> No, he does it in a podcast.
Okay. Okay. >> So you get the seat formed up for him. And do we know well a if we can get a count of how many people listen to the podcast and it's confirmed that we know that because I think that's going to be another key of
are people listening or I think if people listen we want to do more podcast and do more if there's only two people listening or even like Bob if Bob put something in and people listen then it gives you the idea that you may want to do fe followup to get one one thing we
can do is it's yeah and it's it's >> it's on YouTube so >> watch it YouTube and then you can go back and watch it again it's not something that's one time shot >> so we could once we do one kind of point somehow figure out how to point it to
people and say hey go >> you can put it you can link to the podcast on the website too >> that's correct >> so the website could have like the even >> could have a link but it could also have like a little box that has you know the
meeting but I mean the um YouTube conversation right there so people can go right on the page and click on it. >> Okay. So as soon as you do that then just remind Lori that that's what we
would like and then that will be on the project page the library building committee >> page which is linked from the library page. >> Okay. Um can I ask a question? >> Oh god. >> George can I impose ask a question of
you? >> Of course. What is your thought about maybe leaving flyers at the yacht club? >> I think that's right. >> Okay. >> Absolutely. >> And then in talking to Karen on, you know, she's in the knitters group and of other groups and most of the women are
from the Cape. >> Yeah. >> Would would she feel comfortable taking a few flyers and handing them out at her? >> Absolutely. I think our our focus has to be get people out on the 28th of April. >> Okay. That's really has to be our votes.
>> Correct. >> Each one of us, >> we got to get the yes vote out. The no vote can stay home. >> Yes. That's right. Well, you know, the no votes are going to come out. >> I know. >> You know that. >> That's fine. >> So, it's our job, >> the board, and all of us. Yeah. >> To get 10 people to come out and vote yes.
>> Okay. So, when we get >> Yeah. When we get these printed up, I'll make sure that >> Absolutely. >> Okay. Appreciate that. >> Have we ever thought about a town mailing? It don't >> I mean it cost money. >> It costs money. Yeah.
>> Well, if we go in the garden, but some maybe not. >> But we can wait for the water bill or is there another water bill? >> It's quarterly. >> It's quarterly, right? >> It'll probably come out in the end of March. Yeah, >> that's the time.
>> Yeah, because the first one comes out the end of March. you know we have to go through that unless you don't know because we get the we get the things of the scholarship and we get you
know we get other things that come in >> with our bills or what's it the tax bill I don't know tax >> there's always extra stuff in there >> okay >> all right so would that be but that may not be the trifold. That might kick the
postage up too much if we could just do a a single panel one. >> Oh, no. >> But that's a just an editing task, I think. So, how do we find that out? That's the question on the table.
>> You're going to town tax bill. >> Yeah. Or whatever's coming out next. >> I can ask. >> Okay. >> How they do that or who they coordinate with? >> I don't know. you know what the cost is or anything like that.
>> We haven't paid we have not spent any money and at one point Bob had >> Yeah. He gave us the go-ahhead to have some you know those yard signs >> and that was you know to have the QR
code just so people could come up and take a shot at with their camera. to get to the sites, but our sites weren't very good at that time. So, we we didn't really push forward with that, but that was Yeah, it was a little bit huge money,
but I think he has some place. >> Okay, I'll find out. >> All right. >> Thank you so much, Amy. >> And then >> we don't have trifolds for the 24th of this month, which is Saturday.
>> No. What's the 24? >> Chili. >> We could make >> Yeah, we could probably rock. >> Okay. >> Chili, >> but if I could pick them up, you know, tomorrow or tomorrow afternoon, we'll
have I'll make sure they're Thanks. All right, where are we at? Okay, thank you. Okay, so moving on to seven.
So this was future timeline and committee member responsibilities and reviewing all of our upcoming dates. So this had to do with fincom and select board. So let's start with those are two
big bites. >> Oh with FinCom I do you remember Dorcas? I think it was it was going to be right before your meeting and I can't remember exactly was that like the 8 the 17th I think was what Richard said it was St. Pat. Well, we'll have to see if what
happened was the select board had changed their meetings for the 20 for the for March that I hadn't realized and that's why we're now on the 24th instead of the 17th. So, >> when we had talked to Richard, we had talked about putting it on for the 11th. >> 11th. Okay. And um so we might want to
see if they're meeting on the I I would assume they're meeting on the 18th because of the fact that we're getting close to town meeting, but um you know it would be either the 11th >> 11th or the 18th >> or the 18th. >> Are you doing coffee tomorrow? >> No,
>> not tomorrow. >> No, we have the high school gets a half day tomorrow. They get out at 10:30. >> Just the high school. I don't don't ask me why. I have no idea. I have no idea. It's just so weird. I mean, the other middle and elementary
don't get it. Just the high school >> parent conferences. >> Oh, >> do that. >> I was thinking maybe >> they don't I don't know. >> They're usually on Zoom now.
>> The parent conferences do it. The parent conferences are um I'm not sure they have every month they have an hour and a half early release and part of that I think is for >> I bet they just finished their their
first term exam. >> Okay. So I want to make sure every >> Sorry, there's a question when is the board meeting? >> No. So I think that's exactly where I was going. So, I just want to make sure everybody has that date that we're going to select board on 3:24
and not on St. Patrick's Day and we are >> right. We don't want to be there. We weren't >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Because we want to go to final first. >> So, we to do on the 11th or 18th, but I'll talk to Richard. >> Okay. And so, we'll get that if you find
out. You don't need to wait for our next meeting. you just let people know or you can let me know and I'll put it out. >> Um so those are big dates for us and then the other commitments we had.
Um Matt is going to be away the week of March 16 and March 23rd. So, he's not going to be able to be with us for the uh fle meeting.
So, that kind of shifts things around for that presentation. >> America. >> Well, um that's what I wanted to talk to you about because I just found this out. >> He's leaving he's leaving. >> Yeah, he's he's gone the two significant
weeks there. Uh although if we're with Fincom on 311 then he could be with us for that which that might be a a good way to do it if we could see about getting with Richard.
>> Okay. Oh, thank you. >> I would think actually I would agree with you because I think what you would have is you could craft from the questions that you're going to be given by FINCOM pretty much what's probably going to come your way from the select board too.
>> Yes. Yes. And it's just a better sequence, you know, to have that and to have a bigger gap to so we can prep for it. All right. So, I I'll see if I can get Richard to commit to the 11th. Okay. >> Before Matt takes off. >> Okay. I think if I get him now to probably
>> I think we already got his commitment, didn't we? >> Well, he's I didn't hear. It was kind of if I thought the 11th was correct, but I want to verify that. >> That'd be great. And then um >> you go right ahead and do that.
>> I don't have a problem with it. >> Okay. And then um that would be great. And then if Ma could come down, >> somebody's got to come. >> Yeah. >> I'd rather her than I'd rather her than They're all good, but MA
>> Yeah. Well, Marica's been, you know, much more hands-on, especially with the staff. She really knows the program inside out, >> right? >> Okay. >> All right. So, I want to keep up our momentum. It's
really important now. Um, and it's not that we need to have long meetings, but I think we need to have um this kind of regular accountability and keep going. So, >> I do have video questions video back to
even what we talked about with ethics and what >> us and our talent people could say verse public >> because we do have some public people. public people able to express whatever they want to say. >> Yeah. >> And are we better off having more public
people >> than not? I mean, do we want to split it any specific way? >> Less town people, more town people equal. Is there >> in terms of the podcast? >> No. In terms of the video, I think again as I've watched more and more videos,
>> yeah, >> some of the videos the towns put out are mostly library staff. >> Yeah. Some are mostly all public with no town or library staff. So I've seen it both ways. So now it's like which way do
we want to go and and why? Because they they they've hit it with different angles depending upon which library video I watch. >> I think it's helpful with the library staff. They can point out where the
short where the where the challenges are. you know what you have in terms of what you're dealing with here and in West in terms of that aspect. >> But I will say more compelling to me were people that use the library and
tell the shortcomings of the library. >> Do you guys have they you may know some patrons who come in and say >> but that's I think from that would be what I would be asking David and others because that seems more compelling to
me. Okay. hearing whatever age group because they've interviewed even younger people saying that they're children's people, you know, I have to go downstairs and it's not inviting and you know, I look forward to a place that's inviting. How do we reach out?
>> I just I want to stop this conversation though. I want you to go back Yeah. >> and talk about how you got into this, how you how you you did the search and everything. >> Okay. Because you just you just went >> I libraries My main search started with
Massachusetts libraries that have videos to talk about why new library needed. >> Oh my gosh. Okay. >> Wow. And what you get from that is a lot of information. >> Wow. >> Which includes links to library videos.
>> Okay. And so did you like try to stay within the last five years or you They were all >> all in Massachusetts. All from 2020 >> to >> Okay. >> And I haven't even gone through them all.
>> But for you personally hearing the patrons, >> well, whatever. >> The interesting thing because I was going to ask the question, we brought it up. some library staff go
more into an opinion than so I don't know again because we don't know I don't know with each one whether they're part of the town what they part so I I can't really tell I mean one library had to listen to the library was in charge of the facility as well so the facility
was in repair and you heard all the library people talking about what they put into the facility which then leaves their patrons with nothing but they they did say they're in charge of the facility. I think again in Yam Yam's in charge of
the facility. So >> Oh wow. >> So again it's you really need to know what our boundaries are to be able to put together something to stay within our boundaries. So when you're saying opinion though, I mean to say I really
can't I just keep thinking of Joe in that meeting that day when there were so many people out here. Um you know so for Joe to say well you know part of my responsibilities are to attend meetings
with colleagues I don't even know who you're meeting with but uh I have to do that in the middle of an office. And is that an opinion and it's hard to do? You know, >> I mean that's a that's a question. That's a perfect thing because again the
one of the things mentioned where staff are able to do their work and how it's in the middle of a library. >> They talked to a a director that talked about as part of their library checklist, they make sure no one's stuck in the elevator because they've had
people stuck in the elevator. >> Oh my gosh. Wow. I don't think that's opinion. I think that >> I know but you know they can speak to working conditions challenges they see with both their own you know their own job
responsibilities and also challenges that they come across with you know what patrons are looking for and what we're not able to provide >> and then I think you speak to the fact of what um the new design would allow for us to do
>> and you know the differences between you know the the existing libraries and and what the new programs will provide to the town that we don't currently >> I mean we had a perfect example last week which was I came out and Francis
basically they had had a patron call who needed to make a personal had to have a zoom meeting of you know but they needed a space where they could be alone um because of the nature of the thing And she's like, "We didn't really have anywhere to put them, so I put them in
the letter room. I hope that's okay. We don't generally do that, you know, because we don't." I'm like, "Yeah, I mean, we don't really have a space." Somebody, we've had people use the reference room if they're, you know, if what they're doing is like taking a class or something and it doesn't really
matter. But if it's something that's personal and they just need a space that's sort of quiet and and, you know, where they can have a confidential call, that's the only space in the building we have. So that's something that you know people need places like that and it's
not always easy to find an appropriate place to do it. So um and similarly you know we've got Girl Scouts meeting at West now but they're just sitting in the back. It's not like you know so it hasn't been an issue because it's a week night. They're not disruptive in any
way, but that isn't really where we would, you know, we would want them to have a real workspace and not be in the flow of the building. So, I mean, stuff like that. But >> I'll give you one example of what I'm going to call an opinion. I think it's
it's good. But >> one person said, you've heard all the time about build it and they will come. a new library, if you build it, they will come. You don't know what you're missing till you
build it. That's not fact, that's opinion. But that to me was very impactful for me because again, >> people don't realize, and I'm not a believer in building it because you think you're going to become. But I think in the library, you don't know what you don't know until you have
something new. >> And you need someone to be able to do it. >> Yeah. Well, you could back it up with statistics from other libraries, but somebody is really making an opinion because no one will know >> Yeah. >> what will happen to Yam until Yavin
builds it and they come. So that's an opinion. Yeah. Until proven other facts help support it from other libraries. But that's somebody's giving their opinion which I think has to be >> a patron of some somebody else is is
passionate >> past >> able to be able to state it to then give that opinion. I will also say, and this is not an opinion because I met with Andrea
last Friday, um, and she told me basically, I guess we're waiting on one reviewer. So hopefully that means >> we're we're waiting on one reviewer. It's gone through everyone else. So >> um but she did say that
um at least from their perspective there is a great deal of uncertainty about the future of all of this. Um, so it is true that if this doesn't happen, there
is not any reason to believe it's going to happen at any point in the foreseeable future because there's a question of whether there even will be another grant round due to the uncertainty about the state funding. So I do think that at somewhere in all of this somebody needs to make
the point that >> this is kind of an opportunity that >> it will not come again. I mean she said it's we're you know they have a wait list of other projects in this round and it's anybody's guess if there even will
be a building program in five years because of what's going on in the state financially. >> This is the last chance correct last. So, you know, they're not sure. She's not saying that's true. She's saying that >> they're getting a lot of rumblings about
the financial picture and what that's going to mean for state funding on all kinds of programs. And so, >> there's, you know, reason to be >> where what the future will be. That's the opinion I've had for a long time based on the current economic situation,
what's going on in DC and at the state house that, you know, the chances of a program like this continuing at infinitum is probably slim to none. I mean, is this the last round? It could be. It could there be another one? Maybe. But it's very, very iffy because
federal funds have been cut to the state. airgo state funds aren't going to be going out to the towns >> because it's they're just not going to be there. >> So >> my my comment and I agree with you, but I think how they would package it and they think Matt
>> they're never going to say no. >> No, it's going to go from five years to 10 years to 15 years and then 15 years later they go see we never really cut it. It's been 15 years >> or 40% to 15. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, >> unfortunately for all of us, 15 years. I know we're going to be drooling in our
bibs for the most part. But but they'll never >> what you just talked about something that the library board can address publicly >> in what sense >> to make something these ideas uh say
something like this to the public that it's something that needs to be considered. >> Can that is that something that the library can board can do? their advisory. >> Is that extension of advising? >> Sure it is. >> But if we're going to build a library
for 30 years, it's not going to be our library. >> It's going to be the high school kids library. >> So if you're going to get somebody to talk about the library and what they need, it's not us. It's these high school kids >> who say, "This is what I need in a
library in my town." >> Right? encouraging this group to reach out to the high school kids to find some kids who will be passionate about it. Get on camera about it and turn people
around and say this is what I want because I'm going to live here. Not going to say you're all dead, but I'm going to live here. This is going to be my library. >> Yeah, >> this is this is critical. I truly believe whatever you want the library
board to do, we will do. I've already got my 10 people going to come and say yes. I've said this to our library board. They're going to get 10 more people to come on April 28th and say yes. We've made that commitment. >> But I'm telling you, the people will
turn around and look at those young people and say, "This is what we need." I would agree with you because again the the younger people and they had one high school people they had people from five to to 13 multiple different videos and
to me those were the most compelling because those are the that's the future and like everything you said. So it's like >> that's really the to me the ones that rang out but library directors are great but I think to me the compelling ones were the younger ones that were really
>> or even like kids who are first second year college students saying you know here's my college library supplies all this I would love to have this in my town I would love to have this in my town for my siblings or that
that kind of a message too Because you know what you were saying earlier, John, about you know if you don't know you know they don't know this is the library you know this is like eight times as big as my town library when I was growing up
and but I didn't know I hadn't read all the books so you know they they don't know what it can be honest soiety Can you go to guidance counseling in the town and ask if they
can suggest that might be something >> that that's probably a great idea? >> Can we start with the superintendent the principal? >> Talk to the high school librarian. Those are the kids who are high school li. >> Does anybody know the high school librarian?
>> Is there a high school librarian? That's also a good question. Well, I was gonna ask Indy would probably would never >> um Okay. So, Mark Smith has been very um helpful and open to us even back in the
summer when we were doing the info thing. He he put stuff out. So, I think that's um a super idea. Yeah. >> But I think going back to your skaterathon, if we can get permission to talk to people at the skaterathon may
want to share their voice, that's a >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> That's not that >> that's not that far in advance, right? >> So, if we can capture um and again, what is in the video, you get siblings, one that's a a middle school, one that's a high school, and they they attack it
from two different angles. It's, you know, two for the price of one. >> Yeah. in middle school. Although my daughter's a high school math teacher, never wanted to be a middle school math teacher because she said if the
if the kids were anything like me in middle school, I'm not teaching them. >> I become a teacher. So again, one of the things in video is those tween rooms and tween are the toughest people to get into the
libraries because they don't want to do anything. >> But the new libraries seem because of what they are able to attract >> more queens than existing libraries >> because of the technology.
the inviting atmosphere that they have their own space and they're able to not be >> crowded with the space because they're they're able to have their own space in >> independence that they want. >> Yeah. >> They want to be with the little kids, >> right? That's why they're tweened,
right? They don't want to be with the little kids. High school people may not want them. They're on an island. They feel like they're on an island. They don't want to be on an island. So, so I think the technology may be an attraction, but I think the space from adults
>> space from everybody, >> they don't want to be near anybody >> at specific programs. >> Well, yeah. >> All right. So, I'm I'm still kind of reeling from the
is there a question? >> I I think there is. men's book club meeting tonight. We'll meet downstairs. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Turn the book. >> Sure. Um >> Oh, hang on. Let's just make sure. Okay.
So, what else do you need from this group to move forward with the video? Do you want opinions back or >> I I'm I'm in the process of >> capturing everything to be able to have a rough >> okay >> skit or whatever you want to call it then with storyboard
>> story board within people that may be and then those are just going to be suggestions and then reach out as to can we get >> these type of people yada yada and all that that's going to be beyond >> what I know but I can at least
>> put ideas as to who I think we need to say this certain thing or address this issue. >> Okay. So, let's make this um you know a high agenda item for next time and you know if we can be thinking about things
that could um augment or supplement um John's project with the video. >> We should all think about that. >> Yes, please. Okay. Yes. announced. >> So Amy and I had a conversation yesterday and it was about the second
estimate. >> Oh yes. >> I did look into the the contract. It is in Asenos's contract as a possibility if necess. >> Okay. >> I know that you said that there's a
general consensus among the committee that it would be a good idea. Right. >> Um funding is very tight, >> right? >> So I mean I think we could >> manage it but you know it is >> you know we have to see I want to see what else is coming in for the last
couple for the last month >> and you know we can kind of make that decision. >> Okay. >> Um but we have to make it fairly soon. >> Right. Right. Yeah. >> Because >> it would be it would sorry Amy it would be an additional cost or it's just part of what we owe them from the contract?
Well, we have we have money within their contract. Um, however, we've over spent in other areas because there were other studies that were done that we didn't anticipate, >> right? So, I want to kind of reconcile
all those costs >> um and see, you know, if because we have money that we still can spend with Attenture that, you know, within their contract they had a you know, a >> not to exceed
>> not to exceed. >> Um, so there is still some funding within that. So, we could we could use some of that funding for but we also overspend in other areas. So, I want to kind of reconcile those. Okay.
>> And see if I feel comfortable making that recommendation to all of you. >> Right. So, so Jen Jen's point was that just what you just said that they hadn't fulfilled that. I just want to make sure
everybody's followed that. But the town still comes out of the town's piggy bank whether it goes to Accensor within their contract or it goes to um Odello for additional >> additional survey work stuff like that
>> new design. Uh so the po the conversation pro second opinion was to be able to meet the yahab butts. Yeah but did you look at this? Y but did you look at
that? Yeah but who says that estimator really knows what's going on and be able to say well there were two and also the whole idea of a discrepancy between two and being able
to reconcile that before we went >> to town meeting. Um I do think that has some power. >> Um so I'm hoping you can find it. Judy, I I do have a comment based upon looking at the meeting minutes >> and I know it was mentioned, but
>> once I read the 9900 in writing based upon my own estimates that I've given people, >> oh yeah, >> you're not going to do a total independent estimate for 9900. I would never quote my client. 99,00 gives you nothing. So, we really have to then
start looking at >> what are we getting for 9900? Because maybe it's a good question to ask Matt. What's his estimate that cost, >> right? >> Yeah. 9,000. What the other >> That's a good point.
>> We can ask Matt and see what his his estimate on his estimate is, >> right? >> And then >> but at least you know you get an apples. >> If he comes back and says it's bought 40, what are you going to get for nine? Quarter of that. >> Okay. I I'll get in touch with Matt
about that. >> Um unless unless one of you wants to do that. Do you >> I can then that'll help you make your Okay. Anything else? Well, I think we've covered a lot of territory. We're >> good. Yeah.
>> All right. Uh, >> I mean, we're just going to keep our placeholder once a week. >> Yes. >> I just think I would I would much rather just keep up the momentum. Um, keep the meeting short and >> Okay.
>> What What would you like us to do uh for next time? Uh to look at videos and think of like story boards. >> Yeah. anything to support the video project will be great because um personally I just kind of said yay John.
So anything >> I mean I think again what I got out of it was trying to ask myself who the audience is and who's going to do it and and who who whose library is it? I will stay with George
said we will all either be dead or whatever. So it's none of us in 30 years. Yeah. >> Right. >> I don't want to be longevity. >> You can come
in 30 years. No. >> Those are taking you to the library. >> You go. >> Vicky will take us all to the library. She'll be she'll be driving. We get a triple wheelchair. >> The wheelchair van. Okay. All right,
folks. Focus. Okay. Yeah, >> I think that's the part that we really have to think about the audience who we're trying to draw in and Ghana support and maybe the kids will get their parents to go. >> John, I really want to say thank you for
that. It's really huge and I really one really appreciate. >> Yes, I do too. I do too much. Um, >> back to your question. Yes. So, and any places that you think you could
drop off brochures after. We'll have a bunch of them next week. So, you can just like George is saying, >> put them in your bag when you had lunch here. You know, did you know I was on this committee?
You won't believe what we're doing. Um, anything else for the good of the cause? Okay. So, next meeting next week and and we'll push up the video to a higher point and
see what else we can identify. The agenda will look very similar. Okay. Because this is what we're doing. I um I don't know if we're going to have any type of formal response from the BLC in terms of like written comments or anything, but obviously if we do not
talk about that. Okay. >> Put want to put a placeholder. >> Yeah, I suppose. I mean certainly by then given that it's the 29th, I would be rather surprised if we hadn't heard, you know, something because it would only >> be one more work day in a month. So, um
I would imagine we'll have some type of feedback. >> That would be great. >> Okay. Uh so Amy's going to follow up with the mailing question at town hall and talking to Matt about the estimate.
I'm just shoot an email to him about a representative at uh >> select board and let him know. Oh, well after I get your confirmation from >> from Richard
>> from Richard and I'll let him know when that one. >> Okay. >> Any other dates? Lan. >> All right. Thank you all. >> Motion to >> second.