Let's go. >> Okay. >> Welcome everyone to the February 19th meeting, the hybrid meeting of the library building committee. Um, I'd like to call roll at this point. Judy Tarver
>> present. >> John Greco >> here. Uh, Susan Brida >> present. >> Marcus McGarin >> here. >> Sandy Pipe. Seeing that we have a quorum. trying to take yourself. >> Oh, forgot me. My goodness. Tom Pson, I
am here. Um, seeing that we have a quorum, we'll begin the meeting. Um, the first item on the agenda will be approval of the minutes of >> January 29th.
Do we have a motion? >> Second. >> So move. >> Second. Second. Any discussion? >> Judy, you okay? >> I am. >> Okay. All in favor?
minutes have been accepted since we don't have a note taker. We need a note taker. >> Sandy Sandy said she would take minutes from the uh recording. >> From the recording. >> Yep. >> Okay. Thank you. Okay. Next item. Public
comments. We can >> I can um share that I had um someone suggested um for uh just getting information out to more people that we might want to speak to somebody at the cultural center and um I took the
opportunity today to go over and talk with Meg um and asked her what is the process that we would need to use? would be able to do something for collaborate with them in some way. I got a chance to meet Ian. I don't remember his last name, but
he's the new executive director or the acting executive director, >> and he um said they would be happy to help us help the the the um effort and um also would offer the cultural center if wanted to have a meeting or a program
or something like that there for no cost. Okay. Um we you would need to prepare a um whatever you wanted them to put on their um email blast um because they could not give us the addresses because I think they um promised
privacy. Correct. >> So if we provide them you provide them with some write up they'll make sure it goes out to the group and just frame it in the right way that it's information. >> So um and I haven't done anything more on fundraising. I was
>> okay. Thank you. >> I say it might be nice if we get a just a general flyer and information out so that we can share it so it's all um uniform as we reach out to every
place if they're advertising it. Yeah. >> Also one that I wrote Skyler is of many use. Perfect. Yeah, we'll get it done. >> Yeah. And I'm also remember I'm taking that the longer four page fact sheet that we had and condensing that into a
one page one page maybe two sides of one page. Okay. >> That was you know why why now money matters but um but the decision I thought we collectively we're going to wait till we get the funding so we can fill that piece in so that when we have it ready to go it's got everything on
there. >> Okay. >> So we should be getting financials pretty soon. by the end of this month. >> Okay. >> Just to keep us on track schedule, >> we're gonna we're going to be discussing I'm not going to cut you off, Susan, but we're going to be discussing that in outreach, so we can talk about that a
little bit later. >> Um town hall updates. Unfortunately, Amy can't be with us tonight, but she did send me a couple of things. Uh one, she did tell me that the OPM procurement is out and they're awaiting uh responses
from that. And um if we've looked at the website that the communications department put up, she asked that we provide feedback to her or David as soon as possible so they could make any necessary changes. Um, also she sent me
an email and uh forwarded from Sandy Fe um concerning updates to for the capital improvement plan committee prior to annual town meeting. They are planning to meet on March 2nd and 9th to finalize
the CIP prior to the ATM and their presentation to the select board. They would like the LBC to attend an upcoming meeting to discuss the library building projects. March 2 and 9, either one of those dates. So
Judy, you know, we can discuss that or one of us or two, anybody who wants to come, we should just go on March 2nd and March 9th. >> Do you have a time >> on their meeting time? I don't. The only I don't. >> Okay. Is it either or of those going to discuss it? She said either or those
dates is fine. >> Right. >> Right. So that's >> I have a feeling they meet a little earlier. They may meet. >> I don't know, but I we can get that from Sandy and find out and get that out to everybody. So
um >> so how does that work with all of our other dates then? Um with >> Well, March 2nd and March 9th are Mondays. I know that. And fin is the 11th. >> Finom is the 11th and the select board
is the uh 24th. >> Yeah. Okay. So the reason we're meeting with them with capital on March 2 or 9 is so that that gets done before the [clears throat]
>> right. So what >> just to give provide them an update as to where we are and we may we may have fin it may be better to look to shoot for the ninth only because we we'll have a better idea on financials at that point.
>> That's kind of what I was thinking too. >> Okay. So let's leave it I guess we'll leave it at that and we'll we'll shoot for the ninth. >> Okay. >> And we'll notify Sandy and the capital improvement part. Okay. Um, number five,
David's not here, so we're going to skip over number five and go right to six. Update on outreach activities. So, John, you want to talk about the video? >> I think the video is at a point where we really need to know how we're going to produce the
video, who produces it, um, what the mechanics are. I think we have a group that can go over what people may be saying, who the people are, but until we get the the nuts and bolts of who's
going to produce it, who videotaped it, when's all that happen, we're kind of at standstill of who's doing what in terms of actual video production. Would that be the communications department at
the town or do we need to hire an outside video, you know, some sort of videographer? >> Yeah, I I think David said Amy said K's book and I think he was talking about
channel 8 cable [clears throat] what she had suggested. I'm not sure what happened. >> I didn't hear back when I reached out to them after our meeting. So >> you've got to wait >> to the person I knew originally. Yeah. But I heard nothing back. So >> we follow up on them.
>> I'll try again. But yeah. >> Yeah. Thank you. >> Um maybe we want to go maybe you can poke at them too please. You think? >> I I mean if you can give me contact I
have no idea what what they are who they are or anything like that. So >> yeah, I think this is really an Amy question. Um because I think what happens with the television network is
they provide a certain number of hours or certain things that they can provide to the town which then we would fall under that. And whether that's just
radio spots or what it is, I'm not sure what what all that happens. Um, so I think that's that's something for Amy to clarify. And >> do we know you John you had said it's
about 15 minutes worth you think of? >> I think again from what we have drafted it's 10 to 15 minutes. >> That's good. Short is good. Yeah. >> [clears throat] >> And I did mention we do have all the
equipment to do it here. We have the camera. I have the video editing software. But once again, it's if is that overstepping for staff to do? >> No, not at all because this isformational. So as long as
it'sformational, um, that can happen. that also might be something the cultural center could help with because they do have those kinds of capabilities there. Um, they have a studio there. So, I think as far as the
library folks that would be getting authorization to use your time um more than what the content is, I think the content is fine. Uh, so I think this is definitely an Amy question if we can get this to her.
Okay. >> And that doesn't mean we have to meet we have to wait until the next meeting. >> Who should who should we use for video production? >> It's a question of who? >> Who? >> Yeah. >> Really? >> Yeah. >> Let Amy >> let Amy make that decision.
>> Yeah. Okay. >> Yeah. >> Okay. John, anything else? >> I think that's it. I think that's really the next step we know. >> I just want to say thank you to John and his crew for all this work. >> Yeah. Great job.
>> Rotary, Judy, we have any follow up on the Rotary? >> I'm having trouble hearing. >> Oh, so we're asking you now any followup with the Rotary? >> No, you know what happened with that was I had sent out an email. So, um, and I
haven't done anything actively. So, >> Okay. Yeah. >> I should be a member in the next two weeks or so. >> Oh, wow. senior center. You want to any any updates on the senior center?
>> No. Again, I've been grounded, so I haven't done >> All right. Do you want one of us to maybe reach out? >> Uh I I think that Oh, no. You know what? I had actually I had left a message there. Uh that
would have been the end of January with the program person >> and I'm not remembering that name. I got it from the newsletter, the senior center newsletter and that person never got back to me.
>> All right. Thanks, >> Chamber. >> Chamber, we have the date for next Wednesday, right? >> Next Wednesday. Right. >> What time is it? I forget. >> At 3:00, I thought, right? 3:00 in the afternoon and they someone just needs to
let Mary know that someone will be there and who it's going to be so that she can put it on their program. But that that's their >> Wednesday. That's the 25th. >> I think it's Wednesday. I kept I don't know if my phone is 25th because yesterday was the 18th, right? 25th.
>> Judy, you're not available. >> Uh no, actually on the 25th I'm not. >> Okay. I'll check my calendar. I might I I know I've got a bunch of stuff going on the 25th, but I can I'll check my calendar. >> I'm available to provide backup for whoever goes first.
>> Um, >> and who we I'm sorry. And who am I? >> Mary Vilborn and I'll send you her contact information. All right. And I'll send her email address and her phone number. Just let her know and you'll let her know as soon as possible. She wants to print the agenda. >> She wants to print. Okay. So, I'll let her know tomorrow. Okay. Thanks.
>> I told her someone would be there. We just didn't know who. >> Yeah. I'll tell her that somebody will be there and and they'll put us on the agenda. It doesn't matter who shows up. >> Yeah, it's going to be Yeah, very short. Okay, thanks. >> Um, we've already talked about the South Armouth Methodist. That's fine.
>> Um, PTO stuff. Anything on D? I mean, has the skate program been re? >> Yes, it has. But in doing that, we are not getting a table. >> No, we This is a casual event for the PTO. So, we would be able to hand out flyers and talk to anybody that that's
there, but it's not a table with a big >> with it. We can't bring our We can't bring any of the stuff. >> We could probably bring one, but not No, because it's a family. They're there for fun. So, they said we can kind of come >> converse with them and do that, but not necessarily >> would pay with that.
>> Um, it's coming up now. I have to look up the new date. It's not until like the beginning of March, so I have to find out the date again. I have it saved somewhere. >> I think it's in Facebook, so I can email you that. >> Thank you.
>> Um, >> so since Amy or David is not here, the only thing Amy did bring up and David both brought up with me is that we just need to take a look at the website and get the feedback to them as soon as possible. So, if there's anything on what's currently here, we need to let
them know so they can make those changes ASAP. So, >> okay. Specifically, which website are we talking about? The >> the uh >> the building committee's website. >> Yes. Okay. >> The building committee website. Correct. >> Okay.
>> Um Susan H harvesting. I know you talked about that. >> I I have four fifths of it done. We have five bullets. The only thing we're waiting for is the is the financial piece. What I did is I took >> why why now?
>> Money matters. Um, I did site and design and then I forget what they have for but and then I took everything else and made like an addendum like the architect's name, what he's done, >> uh, the history of the funding. Okay, >> that's all in a separate document uh,
that we can either use as a we pass out or >> post it someplace, but the flyer is meant to hand to someone they can walk away with it so they know why we're doing it, why we're doing it now, how much it's going to cost, what it's going to look like. Yeah. >> Um and then I forget I forget what the
fifth Oh, activities like the youth and the reading and all that kind of stuff. So that's that's um that's done. I'm just waiting for the financial piece. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Go ahead. >> I'm trying to get it on one side. >> You want it short and sweet. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. Because people don't want to be digging through it. >> No. And if they want to know who the architect is, they've got the agenda right there, which will be a separate document entirely. um school district parent blast content to Mark Smith.
Do you know that? >> Um I send ours to the school and they parent blast it. I we don't go through Mark. >> So our resource we reach out >> we reach out to the school um secretaries and principles and then they send out the email blast whenever we
need it. So if they had they done >> we would >> yeah for this project we were directed to send it through his office. >> Okay. All right. So anything forward anything from here on out let's send it to Mark's
office. >> Yeah. And so that would include >> Yeah. That would include what Susan's been working on. >> Yeah. >> Thanks. And then on the distribution of trifolds, let's just make sure we keep
getting them to both libraries. We have to print more. We print more. The senior center >> um DPW, I'm not sure. Is there anybody walking through DPW these days, Judy? You think? >> Yeah, actually there are. You know, people come in for all different reasons
and and they have like an entry foyer and they have brochures about other projects that are going on too. Yeah, I did spend time I didn't spend time, but I've spent time on the phone with um um down at St. David's and they're very
um very aware they put the the trifolds in their common room and in the foyer of the church. Uh they're also going to put a blast in their bullet their Sunday bulletin. Um so they don't really have many groups that meet and they're generally small. Also, he thought the
best idea was to let a blast out to the whole church >> and put the trifold out. Yeah. >> So, they've been very, very helpful. >> They're also over at Family Table Collaborative, >> right? >> I went over there and dropped off a bunch of Oh, yes, I did. We have their flyers now here
>> because they're doing a family dinner that as I went over there, it was pretty packed. They do dinner, the um Grand Prix dinner from 4 to >> 10 on Fridays and Saturdays. And there was a good grouping of people
>> once once a month on Thursday. >> Um my wife Pam has dropped them off at the food pantry and I've got a lot of positive feedback and I believe we've dropped them off at the VNA. Um I >> think Christ Church
>> I know that's an active church. I just don't know. Do they have a bulletin board or do they have a bulletin board? >> Well, they do have a bulletin board as you go in. I handed them out at the uh Christmas um
>> which is mobbed. >> Well, it wasn't a lot of takers even though I was handing them out. But that's the last time I had done it. But I didn't check into and [clears throat] we tried to get them um for the
their women's club >> have a guest speaker but they're booked past April. So we would have to be in May which is past the date. So >> but do they want any kind of community bulletin board? Not the not the church one announces masses or anything but somewhere a community I thought they
did. I thought they had a big community bulletin board. >> Yeah. when I go in. >> I don't think so. >> Only several buildings that all the schools.
>> Oh, that one. The one where they do the life center. >> Yeah, there are two of them. Yeah. But I don't see >> um one big piece of news, our podcast. I'll be doing the podcast next Thursday at 10:30 I believe and then it'll go
online and I spoke with Lori over communications. Very nice. >> So that's February 26. >> Yep. And I guess it will go live, right? I mean it'll go out right after that. So anyway, >> make sure you look good.
>> Get up. >> This is what you get. This is what you get. No hair and makeup. No, I got a haircut today. That's it. >> The hair and makeup you have to tag in the children's room. >> Um, >> so any additional updates? Um,
anything. >> Are we scheduling any outreach sessions here or over at town hall? I see that the Madaks one has another outreach session and I'm like, okay, when are we actually going to have one with people again?
at town hall >> either town hall or independently when we did one here and at West Jarmath we had those also. >> So where I'm seeing so much outreach for other projects in the community
and this is all of the rest of it is still in process. Is it time for us to do another inhouse or at town hall outreach session? One of the discussions we had a while ago was that we weren't going to do any more public meetings at at town hall. So
maybe if we wanted to do something at the libraries would be the two last places we could do it. Judy, what do you think we could do? A couple, one here and one over west. >> Yeah, we were pretty much directed by the select board not to do that. And so
if we did them at um the libraries, I think again what we were why why we were procrastinating was to get that final piece of money >> financial information. >> No good. >> What is the status of that? Has anyone
spoken to Matt? >> No, but Matt, I included Matt in tonight's I mean in the email to Matt. I I didn't hear back from him, but I think >> because they did say the end of the month, which is next week, >> which is next week >> and our calendar goes out for next month's our newsletter and everything.
So, I think if we don't get it in those dates ASAP, it's going to be individual ones and not part of the email blast, not part of the new um newsletter. But the other the other issue with that is we have to wait for the second estimate too and then they have to meet
and my understanding was that information that final reconciliation wasn't going to be done until the first week of March. >> Okay. And March 1st is a Sunday. Sunday. >> Yeah. But if we wanted to set it up for the end of the month right before a town meeting, we could >> Why couldn't we just set them up and
then we'll have the financial information once we you know once it comes in. If we set them up for midmon, midmon in March, something like that. >> Exactly. >> We have to post those. Would that be a board meeting or just a general public?
>> Only if we have a potential quorum of attend of members. So, as long as fewer than four of us are at that. >> So, maybe we decide that we just limit the board members to two each at each library. That way we eliminate the
problem. >> Okay. >> And when we did originally so that people weren't talking over each other, I had a magic little bell and wand that they brought with me that I would tap above people's head giving them permission to speak. >> So I don't I don't necessarily feel
that's appropriate for adults. Um but it brought a little fun. But just having something so that we have the in organized which I would happily walk around and pass a mic or do that again. >> That's the hourglass. >> I have one in the children's room. That
pretty has flowers from the 70s. >> So I ask the library staff what's a good time of day to do these >> earlier in the day. you think early or at night so that >> or do we do one in earlier and one later so that we're getting the work
demographic and the evening? >> I mean >> so one mid early morning or mid or early afternoon or what are we what are we talking about? >> Yeah and well and then the other question is we are open on Sundays all the way through March. I know silo used to have the most popular author talks at
that time. So, as we're talking a time, do we want one to be here on a Sunday because it alleviates the work conflicts? Most of the children's activities are on Saturdays throughout the town and Sunday we open up after church
or most church. I know there's some later ones, but same over they're done by there by noon. So, they're just wrapping up as we open. So, would we want to do a Sunday one here? and just thoughts. >> Yeah, I think Sunday's excellent.
>> I think a much better turnout. >> Yeah, I think Sunday's good. People are just looking for something to do in the middle of the week. >> Should it be a formal presentation like where we booked the the room downstairs? I >> think we should at least book the room >> or should it be passive and where we're here as an open house, that kind of
thing. >> Or a combination there. >> A combination. You can do a little presentation can be available afterwards in multiple locations for any follow >> and we could take people afterwards if you would like to see
>> follow us here. We can give them kind of >> a walk around in the spaces that are safe enough. If not, we can open the door and say here's the work conditions in this back room because you can see most of them from that location. And so
that would leave west. Um if we'd want to do that one early or if we want to do that one >> we're doing Sunday >> south. We're going to do south Sunday here. Okay. And I'm going to look at the calendar, find out what days and then I'll send an email to whoever needs those emails and
>> and West will be during the week. >> During the week um >> sometime early morning. >> We could try a Saturday with that. No, we're not No, we're not open on Saturdays yet then. >> Not yet. >> Okay. So, um, >> west traffic
is highest, you know, earlier in the day. >> Maybe do it early afternoon. >> Yeah. Like before 1:00. >> Before lunch at one. Yeah. >> 11:30 so that you we have chance to open the library.
Staff can get settled. We can get the chairs set up. >> Just to get people there for lunch. >> That's okay. So, if you guys will look at the library schedule and send us some dates and then we can maybe by next by next week's meeting we can set a formal
date for those. >> I'll have that all pulled up and >> that would give enough time to put it into the >> the newsletter will go out on >> the next next Thursday 26th. >> Yes. So, we'll have I can get it into Toby. He won't like me, but I can get
that into him for that. Um, if we can get I'll write a blur or I'll write the blur of a program title and then we can get that approved next week too and just move forward with that because that's what he'll need for the newsletter and I'll look up what we posted previously for outreach.
>> Okay. >> Um, wordage. >> Okay. Thank you, Judy. You okay with that? >> Um, I think that sounds good. I I like Joe's comment about when the traffic is because um
that's what we want to do is hit people. So, are we going to use one of Matt's presentations so that we have that kind of like going back to John's question? So, is there like this
>> mean slide present his slide presentation? Oh, and some some one of us is narrating the video and then that's it. If people, you know, meander away, then we greet them and give them brochures. It's going to be a hybrid kind of thing.
>> Can't do it at West. >> We can't do that at West >> um >> video. We don't have the technology. >> We don't have the technology >> there. But >> okay, >> when we're talking about that, I would suggest more of at the beginning of the meeting, we pull up the town page, kind
of like what BBE does with Ancestry and all her other workshops. Pull up the town page and show people how to navigate to those videos to the different web page because I've heard the website the page is still a little confusing. People don't know where to go
for what. Um I know we've improved it, but just taking the time to walk people through it. Oh, are you interested in catching up on the meetings? You would use this link here and kind of make it more of a workshop because we have the we have these out. So, at that this
point in time, I think we're more at the boards and we could put those out and then just show people how to >> how do we show >> here? We could pull it up and do it at Westjarmth. We could have handouts that show the page, >> but it could be a handout of the web
page. We can print those pages and then just I can print it up large poster sized almost. We can do 11 by 14 and I we can hold it up, show it and then say okay when you want this you go here and
do it the same presentation just >> and you know we were going you know at west we can do that but and here we could do both. Yeah, >> because if we have that slideshow with, you know, with the renderings, that's something for people. >> Okay.
>> In the mindset of someone walking in, what are they gonna what why are they here? >> What do they want to know? >> Yeah. >> And fast question. >> Like, how much is going to happen? >> Some of them won't even take their coats off. They'll just sort of walk around. Why am I here? >> I want the status >> and then what are the next steps?
>> Yeah. I mean, if we wanted to, we could go through the meetings and say, well, this was presented at this meeting. we would like you please go and view October 15th's meeting and that way it's not opening a big can of worms or anything but it just directs people to
the information they want. >> Okay. one west I was going to mention you know the church has a lot of activities >> uh during the week if we if the timing is right if we could join >> umation well not necessarily join be at the same
time because people go there they go to that church all >> question they the I forget I think they >> get their newsletter I could get their calendar >> yeah or you can even call them they're very accommodating tell them what we want to do we want to sort of coincide with them because they do have a a lot
of activities there during the weekend. If we could have at the same time, people will be there anyway. >> They might come across the street. >> We want to start we want to start when they're kind of getting out. >> Yeah. >> I say I did have I think I'm up to 60s something conversations in the children's room about the board because
I brought I every program I bring it up. I let people know if they have any questions. So, we got a huge response of questions after the 46 people at Musical Discoveries the other day. Um so, they were very interested in that. I'm going back to Dave and Amy's.
>> Sure. >> I'm gonna say we may be biased. I say I'm biased. I was on the web page today. >> Yeah. >> Other than there's tons of information. >> Yeah. >> And you have to know what you want before you go clicking. >> Yeah. >> It is relatively easy.
>> So then just let them know. >> Yeah. But I but I'm gonna say I'm biased because I know I know everything. If they really want an unbiased opinion, they have to go to somebody >> outside of us. >> Outside. Go back to what Suz was saying. Those people that don't know anything
either have to be taught how to do it or why it but it's a biased comment because I know everything and I can find it and I'm able to manage it really fast. But that's just because of me. But I have no idea who else can do that fast.
>> Not me. because I've been asked I'm like it's all in the meetings and I don't have like a I haven't summarized or which meetings covered what topics. I mean we have all our notes but >> a little summary would be handy when people ask those questions.
>> A similar activity. Yeah. >> You're really going to want to know >> Oh yeah. >> what it going to look like. >> Y >> how much is it going to cost? And really when when it's going to open what's it at this point they're talking construction schedule >> that people ask that question a lot. When would this happen? >> Exactly. When's it going to happen? How much is it going to cost? And what's it
going to look like? They all know it's going to be done by town hall. >> It's also but it's in Matt's presentation, he has a timeline in there. We can it's going to be part of the handout and you can point them to that timeline. >> Yeah. >> That gives them a pretty good idea of
when things will be done. >> The question I get I've gotten more than once is also, you know, will this raise my property taxes? And you know not knowing the answer to that I think I deal with >> sort of politicked it away
52 years and I will tell you it is going to come down to a dollars and cents vote. That's what going to we either sink or swim with that and that's what it's going to be regardless of all the work we do going to vote. >> There was some sort of answer that we could say >> I have I've been giving an answer to
that one >> will affect no more than this much you know this many dollars. I I want to say when we went to yeah when we went to the finance one it was granted that we are the least expensive project in Yarmouth and that I said I cannot give you a
amount but of all the projects going up for we are the least expensive and that's just >> right >> but it's it's still a chunk of chance >> I don't have yeah I didn't have the exact number so that just least gives them >> it's not our responsibility and I
>> they prioritize those projects The fincom says this is going to be number one. And then the board selectman reviews that. >> Yeah. >> So even though we may be very valid, we may be the least expensive, >> it's going to be a dog fight. It will be a dog. Oh, I know. And that's
>> it's going to be tough. And then there are other things that they're going to be we found out last night at planning. There are other things that they're going to bring up that are I think fairly controversial. this whole seasonal communities definition which is a train wreck for this town.
>> Um so there there's going to be lots going on. Um and >> let us not forget the biggest one of all >> water school $3 million over >> and you got million >> and then water will be at the top of the
list always. >> Yeah. >> Because we have a statutory obligation to pay that. we are now involved in that by law and those numbers while they are doing an excellent job controlling that budget. There are some things beyond their control. Uh and at some point you get to the point where you know your
blending capacity vances out >> and we you need to be prepared for that regardless of everything we've done. Um it's it's going to be very very tough. It's the worst year I've seen ever for us to be trying to bring a new project on board. It really is going to be tough. the school thing is a killer and
people are getting fed up with that. >> Um I think what we need we the number is knowable um once we get the cost estimates and then we have the projection for the grant and how much that would cover and then that leaves
the balance and then that determines what a tax rate bump would be. Um, >> if at all. If at all. It would not, you know, >> I'm sorry. >> I'm saying we may not even need a tax bump, but if at all, that's where we
would find out what it is. >> Right. >> Exactly. >> And then um the other thing though is to really communicate this grant that this grant may be drying up and this is kind of lowhanging fruit. You know, it's like
we're all set. We're good to go. It's 40% of the project. And so even if it's going to cost us X dollars on our tax bill, if we do not do this,
this is going to just it's not going to go away. The needs are not going to go away. the needs of the built two buildings are not going to go away. And so there it's not like there's no cost going forward there. There are going to
be significant costs going forward in management of those two buildings. >> Yeah. The other thing you got to let them know is that it's their tax dollars coming back to them to the town. >> Right. Yeah. >> And if if we if it's not approved, then those our tax dollars are going to the
next town. you know, who's on the list, who's on the waiting list. >> You know, I hate to be >> I know that devil's advocate, but really, it will be mandatory spending versus discretionary spending. >> And that's that's, you know, >> we're top on the discretionary spending list, but it's still discretionary
spending. >> And you're talking to a population that is older on fixed income. >> Uh, you know, the residential neighborhoods are already under assault, you know, for all sorts of things diminishing the value of mutil. It's going to be it's a very tough tough environment. Um it it really is going to
be hard upset about that. I think >> it's challenge for challenge >> but we face challenges very long. >> Can I give >> Yeah. >> In the in the last 20 years is the the second largest town that has
not received any construction money from >> the state. The state. >> What's number one? responsible every twothirds of all the other towns have received. >> Did we ask >> in Cape Cod? >> We did we ask and get rejected or just didn't ask?
>> Well, in 2024 we we we did not want to go forward. So other towns >> on the talking about this particular project a library project. >> Okay. >> A library project that had undergone construction. Yamoth is the second other
than Bonsible and Yamoth, every other town, twothirds of them have received construction money to do something with the library. >> I figure I remember Antonia from Hyana said there's a reason why they do theirs
all through fundraising. Barnstable. So I can find out that information again if we need it. But yeah, for some reason they don't go for the state funding and that's a >> but they're doing they're not doing large scale projects like we are there. They're doing big projects but not
>> multi multi-million dollar projects if they're raising >> pro the highest project is um millions. >> That's not brand. >> It's not brand. >> Yes and no. They're adding additions. They're adding different floors. they're
um restructuring the weight on the older part of the building. So, it's kind of like what we would have to do >> if we don't go forward with this grant and how much >> we would have to pay to refurbish something like this to make it
accessible housing. >> Yeah, >> a lot of housing. I also I think we need to link this to what our vision for the community is and that's something that the planning board
has put a lot of uh energy into and you know the overall plan for the town and what do we want our p our town to be and if we do not have resources for families and
younger people. We won't have that population here. That's, you know, what what do we want to be? We want to have um resources that our population can use. And >> that I think that's really important,
too. >> Yeah. But you have to remember the mood that's going to be that night. If in fact there is a $3 million budget discrepancy with the school, the mood's going to be very sour. It's going to be very sour. Uh so, you know, >> you mentioned school.
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. It people are just fed up with the school budget and not being able to move and that spreads out. >> That becomes like a no environment for everything. Um, so but I will go back said if our vision in Yamoth is to
retain people and to get people to come, if you don't pay for your schools, no one's going to want to take their kids to a community that doesn't want to pay for school. So you're going to go down, not up. >> So you have to invest in what you need to invest in or else you have nothing
for people to come. Now again, older older people don't like to hear that, but that's you can't have a vision and then go against the vision, right? I mean, it's the vision. >> You see, Rich Simon is sit with every single person and explain it to them. [laughter] >> Say you can't afford it. >> Yeah.
>> And and how do you argue against that? >> You can't. >> It's really, you know, as I said, if this were any other year, >> we would really have a much better chance, but we were up against a ton of stuff. Um, and water is water is going to take precedent over everything. And that is getting more expensive.
>> Yeah. Anyway, >> but there's there's also that, you know, adage that uh def deferred maintenance is not money saved. >> No, that's true. >> And, you know, a lot of what we're
looking at with these projects has been a history of deferred maintenance. Whether it's, you know, not having gone forward with the sewer project 15 years ago, not having gone forward, >> huge mistake, a massive mistake.
I'm sorry. >> The fact that we didn't that we postponed that the the water project a decade ago was massive mistake. >> Absolutely. And so we've got to get out of that rut of those mistakes. Those mistakes.
>> And also at the more global area, Judy, you know, the decision was made ages ago. We're not going to raise taxes. Well, you know what? Things change. You everything has gotten more expensive. Uh someone's got to have the guts at some point to say, you know, maybe we do have
to look at some and you you're dealing with a population, remember, that's on fixed income. And that's why they made the decision years ago, we're not going to raise taxes and we have been under that thumb now for well over a decade. Not a bad policy, but you can't have everything.
>> It's not sustainable. >> Not certainly not a blueprint for growth. >> No, it's not a party, for society. It's a blueprint for stagnation. >> It's a blueprint for stagnation. And then when you do all the things that we do to, you know, uh to enhance that
stagnation, it's not a blueprint for growth. And it's uh and no one's no one's going to say, "Let's raise taxes because it's >> you can't keep putting band-aids on problems." Nope. And affect them. >> Well, we did raise taxes last year for the fire department. So that there is
there is motivation out there. we have to just kind of tap into it. [clears throat] >> It's how it's presented. >> But anyway, um so we've reached the end. Uh upcoming
meeting dates, we have fin on the 11th. We have the newcomers table on March 18 on March 18th. Uh the select board on the 24th. And then of course our weekly library building meeting next every Thursday
until now until we're done building the library. >> So fin anyone can go to that. Right. You can just walk in. Okay. >> Do we want to pick the date the 2nd or the 9th so that we can get that on our calendars for that other meeting? >> The 9th.
>> Okay. We're gonna go to the ninth. Okay. >> Yeah. >> Because by then we should have all the financials. >> And that's the capital budget. >> That's cap. That's Yeah. capital budget and we'll find out the time on it. >> Okay. >> We'll find out the time on that. >> Okay. And fin. Oh, that's fine.
>> That's five generally with Richard. Yeah. >> Do we have people signed up for the newcomers? I thought one of them. >> Well, we had we had Vicki, but she's no longer here. So, we need um That's planning board night. >> It is planning board night. That's a big
planning board night, too. I think I think I'll be there for that one. That was fun. We got two overlay projects. >> Yeah. I won't be there for the next one, but I'll be there for that. Um, >> so we need >> That's right.
>> That's the 18th. You get an hour, you sit at a table, you hand out the brochures. We could take a poster. Um, you know, so it's it's really just an hour commitment on the >> Judy. In the meeting minutes, it says
Vicki, Judy, Sandy, and John. So, forget >> you, Sandy, and myself. Sandy probably. Is she gonna be available? >> I don't know. And that's really kind of borderline for me, too.
>> Wait a minute. We're Oh, we're saying March 18th. No wonder I'm looking at the wrong place. Okay. Yeah, I'm sure I can do by March 18. >> Okay. >> What time is it? >> Make sure we can get you a wheelchair and wheel you in. And >> it says 5:30. Okay.
>> 5:30. Yeah. You set up for 5:30 and they you're done by 6:30. >> Yeah. >> You're done by 6:30. >> And they do feed you if you like something to eat >> at newcomers. Whoa. >> Yeah, they have food. >> Oh, okay. So, John, you and I should
plan to be there and then we'll we'll just figure out Sy's availability will develop. And Tom, is it worth it to ask Dorcas her opinion on to do with Vicki if Vicki? Yeah.
>> Yeah, I know. But this point at this point, it's probably talking about two months. >> Has she turned in her resignation to you guys? Have you seen >> We've asked her twice. So, we're going to follow up with her, but I thought too that we'd probably just wait till after the town meeting.
>> Yeah. Um, she's a voting majority. So, does that change the number that we need to approve? >> Still four. >> Still four. Okay. >> As I was mentioning, Stephen Singer had been offered to be part of this committee. Um, you you remember Stephen
West Jerem. So, um, he had offered to and for for some reason we went with Vicki instead. So, I'm meeting with him tomorrow and he was interested. He's only available on Wednesdays and Fridays though because he's off tape on those other days. But,
>> yeah. At this point, you're not going to find that they put data point anyone in. >> Yeah. >> By the time they found somebody >> just for future, we need somebody, >> right? >> Okay. So the other way, if she does not come forward with
a written resignation, um according to the town bylaws, if she misses three consecutive meetings, then um we can just make a request that she's not an active member and go forward with a reappoint. Um so by the time we get to the place where town meeting has
occurred, this group will have met three times. And uh and then >> I think this I think tonight is her next week will be her third. >> Yeah. Well, >> is isn't this technically the first though because the other two didn't have a quorum?
>> Correct. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. That's right. >> She wasn't here. [laughter] I just want on the 24th we're going back in front of the board of select because we're got something on that also >> planning
>> I forget what we're doing. Oh the zoning we're going over. Yeah. So we'll be be a big big happy family stay overnight. >> Wow. That's that's got a big agenda. >> Yeah. I don't want to.
>> We were promised we'd be first on the line, >> right? >> Don't look at me. I don't set the agenda. >> The agenda. >> Not anymore. That's Tracy. >> Okay. Motion to adjurnn. Anybody?
>> Do you need a motion to adjurnn? >> Yes. >> Second. >> All in favor? I. >> Good night, everybody. >> Night, Judy. >> Good night.