Now, I haven't Yeah, I had a couple other questions on that, too. Yeah, I don't know the answers off the top of my head, or at least not to all of them, or I would have responded. Recording in progress. Thought you knew everything. Uh, good evening and welcome to the May
21st, 2025 Yarmouth Planning Board meeting. I am Joanne Crowley, chair. The public is always welcome to attend our meetings in person or via alternative public access provided on the town of Yarmouth website. Our meetings are generally held on the first and third
Wednesdays of the month, but additional meetings are added when needed. I'll begin by taking roll call. Susan Brida, Deedra Gaquin here. Will Rubenstein Jim Sabin here? Peter Slovak here. Ken Smith
here. Joanne Crowley present. Seeing we have a quorum, I'll now call the meeting uh to order. And I would ask that you join me in the pre ready to pledge. Madam I I'll make a note that Mr. Rubenstein has entered.
Ready to pledge enter. Sorry. Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and
justice for all. I'm sorry. Sorry, I meant what you So, the first item on our agenda this evening is the uh continuing discussion with regard to our the development of our local comprehensive plan. Uh this evening uh we will have some updates and
we'll have some discussion on the LCP draft 2 which were in which was in our packets uh that Kathy provided to us uh this week. Um I think Kathy, you're going to give us maybe an update on the mixeduse studies as well or Sure. if you if if that's appropriate. We're also
going to um look at the schedule and timeline that Kathy has been working with uh our consultants with and then uh there will be some discussion with regard to the timing of the special town meeting in the fall. So I'll pass it on
to you Kath. Um been working with Jeff Bag from BSC Group and they've really taken comments I think that you guys had from the first draft and really worked to incorporate them and simplify it a little bit into the second draft. I realize that this information was only given to you on
Monday and there's it's still a lot of information to digest. A large sections of it are actually the action items which you've already gone through and we really don't need to to revisit. Um but we can talk a little bit more about the schedule, but I think maybe just talking with Jeff, getting him on
um to just give a brief overview of where he stands and what additional things he might need to do and then ask you guys kind of some general comments that you have. We're hoping that we can do something that we did as we did similarly before where you guys got the copy and then you provided comments back to me and then I forwarded them to Jeff
for inclusion. Jeff, can you hear us? Yes, I can. Hi, good evening. Can you hear me? Okay. Yeah, we can. Good evening. Thanks for being with us. Yep. Thanks for being there. And um I I definitely wanted to thank uh Kathy in
particular for her hard work on this and um sort of the tag team that Kathy and Joanne did to present it to the select board. Really important kind of steps that that the town is taking um to shepherd this through. So um you know Kathy provided us with the presentation
that um went to the select board and and then the follow-up email with and we're we're working through some of those comments. We're we're almost done with incorporating those comments from the select board into this version. Uh but that's really valuable and it's great to just have the select board getting those
continuous updates. Um I think it was either Kathy or Joan said, you know, getting them involved now is is going to be really beneficial in the long run rather than them coming in later um and asking for changes when it's, you know, closer to town meeting. It'll be harder
to incorporate some of them. Um, I apologize for not being able to get the draft sooner, but I think as Kathy said, what we would hope to do is kind of go over um, tonight sort of the structure. We restructured the the document. If there's anything that you've gleaned so
far that you want to share with with me or Kathy tonight, that that would be great. But I think um, if we could get comments by May 30th, um, I think that would be helpful for us in terms of a timeline, which I'll go over a little bit later. um if that's reasonable kind
of to have you all um thumb through it and make make comments would be really helpful. I think um I'm just I have kind of have a couple introductory notes and then I'm happy to share my screen and kind of go over the way the document set up. But um I think one of the key
requests probably not the first time I've asked this, but I think you know one of the really important things that you guys can help us with is if there's something missing. Um the way it's structured now is that there's recent actions by the town and where wherever
we can we're trying to um briefly describe those and provide a link or a summary of th those items and it's really the things that are sort of globally impactful to the town. Um there is this impossibility which we will face
with this document which is listing every single project. um you know and I think we talked about that as a group but I think one example is like with the community preservation act you know I think they do so much and they fund so many different types of projects and I think that's one example where we want
to capture the essence of the the importance of what CPA is doing and maybe there's an overall dollar figure that we can refer to on money that's been spent on CPA and various projects but we have to kind of resist the the temptation to list out all the CPA projects that were funded especially
because we're not just looking at one year, we're looking back like 10. So things like that. Um and then obviously words, the way this is written is really important. Um so we'll take feedback on that. But I did want to capture I think what Joanne said or no, it was Kathy who
said that the key issues um are pretty much the same as the document that's been worked and sent around with the plan board and others. So um that's important to know. And then the action items, we've we've kind of bifurcated
them off to to the targeted action plan. Um, so the they look a little different, but the text hasn't really actually changed too much on those. So I just wanted to say, you know, that we should be mindful that if we're going through those, we're we're wordsmithing things
that you guys have already looked at. Um, so it's really kind of the core of the structure of this that we're looking to get the feedback on. Then the housing chapter and the capital facilities um the capital facilities chapter those are you're seeing those
for the first time. So those are consider those were kind of like first drafts and just in speaking with Kathy I think we're we're probably going to want to work through those. Um the housing chapter one of the things that we'll talk about briefly is just some of the data alignment. You know we're referring
to the the housing production plan. um which is a core document but within it it refers to data from 2020 and 2021 and here we are you know in 2025 so we want to potentially pull through data
that we can update to today um so like I think Kathy's example was like the median income we can probably showcase that in terms of 2025 we want to refer back to the housing production plan which has a different date for that data but we don't want to disrupt
the value of the housing production plan and all those findings and resources that were based on that timeline. The capital facilities chapter is going to need some some additional tuning. And I think what we're looking to do is try to
align the the town's existing efforts on this on the CIP to kind of refine a list of projects that are in the SIP and then align them with the projects that are coming through in the in the LCP. And that's an exercise that we're we're going to
double down on over the next couple weeks cuz that's a those two chapters are things that we want to get um a second draft completed before it goes to the Cape Cod Commission. And we'll we'll talk about that um when we talk about the timeline. Two two last things is just
the executive summary. My my understanding the best way to approach the executive summary is it it kind of comes at the end. Um we have a we have a sort of a placeholder. we have a draft going and we can continue to add to that, but I I think it will come
together a little bit later. Um, and I think, you know, I I don't think that the executive summary is critical for the draft plan to to go off to the Cape Cod Commission. Um, but we can have that conversation in a little while when we talk about schedule.
And then the last thing, um, we probably will be back filling a few of these sections with some statistics or data and trying to figure out where we could identify the a trend. Um, the town did a lot of work on this as part of the
vision process. And so there are a few places where we're holding placeholders for where we want to insert kind of that critical data source or the trend. And so we just didn't quite get there this draft with that. Um, so I think with that I guess I would
take questions now or or should I just kind of show show the document. Um, I think take any guidance you might have here. Kath, how would you like to I think you can go over the structure and then you guys can talk about your any initial comments you might have and then of
course we can then talk about the schedule. Okay, great. And you know for anyone watching at home or I don't know if there's people in the room but this this was included in the planning boards packet. So this this version is is available for people to look at and it's
it's embedded in that agenda. Just today I I kind of started draft 3 just for today to start if if there's any feedback I get directly during the meeting. I'm going to try to you know capture it. Um and of course I found a couple like typos and things just right
after I sent it. But um in terms of this these two pages, the kind of layout is the table of contents and I just highlighted um under natural systems and water resources, we kind of made a structural change here that I just
wanted to highlight. Um in the earlier versions and in that key issues document, um water resources was one just one topic and one goal. And what we really see is a value to kind of carve these up a little bit and underwater
resources create three three different subjects, three different topics. Um and through the feedback from the select board, we're going to put waste water up first. Um water supply, you know, um is a really critical topic unto itself. And
so carving it off creates a separate goal and separate action items. And it makes by doing this it made um the rest of the document a little um run a little smooth a little more smoothly and then fresh and saltwater. So I just want to kind of highlight that structural change. The rest of this table of
contents has largely stayed intact um until we get to chapter 4. That was a chapter that this the the document that you guys have. That'll be the first time you've seen kind of a summary of housing. Um and I'll talk about that in a minute when we're thumbming through. And then the capital infrastructure
facilities um is a draft one chapter. Um and then on under chapter 8 appendices I just I just wanted to continue to make a note that we will try to put together a glossery of terms. I
think this request came up by the select board and I think it's very good and reasonable. I think it's going to take some time to figure out which terms we um include in that, but it is going to be something that we we agree makes sense um to
add. So, the document has no graphics, no pictures, and kind of just minimal formatting. And we think that this is probably the best um way to transfer the information back and forth for now. Um, and I think if the planning board's agreeable, this is probably the way that
we would transmit it to the Cape Cod Commission for their review of the first draft, just because once we get into formatting, um, every time there's a change, it kind of has a ripple effect through through formatting. And so, um, just wanted to make that point. Um, here
the note is that the section will continue to be edited. I think, you know, we kind of have some basic information. We have a community overview, and then we have these key themes. when you're reviewing it, feel free to add comments or suggestions or thoughts
on the executive summary, but I just wanted to make sure I noted that it's kind of a it's kind of a living portion of the of the LCP that we're going to keep chipping away at. Um, and then sorry, the second note here is just that we we talked about infographics and we had some at the
first community meeting and I think the executive summary, you know, I think we pegged it as maybe ended up ending up being like 10 pages and I think it can be an easyto read kind of overview and summary of of the LCP. And this is where
infographics will be really helpful um and beneficial to you know the members of the public who want to really kind of get that snapshot. Chapter one is the community vision and Jeff Jeff if I could if I could just uh um pause for a second. Um I think some
members of the board would just like uh to jump in here for a second. Great. Sorry. Mr. Rubenstein. Thank you. Hi Jeff. Thank you again for all the work you're doing. Just to make the next part of our conversation easier, when you share your screen, could you do it maybe single page and make it bigger? Um, both
for us watching on a screen here and also for the future viewers. Um, because the quad view is really nice, but you can get lost in where you're actually talking about. Um, and that leads me to my next point, which is I assume at some point you're going to put page numbers
in the actual table of contents, but you haven't done that yet because we don't have all the pages done. Yeah. Yeah, we will definitely do that. That would be um critical and I it'll be hyperl once once we get this kind of version situated. We'll have it as a PDF and we can kind of hyperlink to the section
that you're interested in. Yeah, of course. I'm but even for and you look this is tricky because there's nobody walking this planet except for Kathy and maybe Madam Chair who know this document better than you do at this current stage. The challenge is you're not
giving it to, you know, civilians um who don't know it as well, even though we know it decently well. So, if at all possible, the navigating here is really key as we're trying to just be efficient with our time and giving you timely review um to the extent that it's
possible to get a table of contents with page numbers sooner rather than later will just help everybody. But again, that's just a request. It's not certainly not a demand. Um, the second thing is you mentioned and I think you're right to break out the water
resource. Um, I'm looking at I'm looking at the table of contents under chapter 3 natural systems. I totally understand wastewater management and water supply, but when I read the words fresh and saltwater, I just like I went it just makes it's just out of context. I know
what you're trying to say, but it doesn't feel like a topic heading to me. It's missing a word. It's just written strangely either maybe you're trying to say fresh and saltwater resources and I know you don't want to be redundant but it just
it just kind of it's just a little bit of a needle scratch and that's not a that's not a bad thing because it got my attention but I just wanted to mention it because it just doesn't flow pun intended. Okay. Um, I think that was just really what I
wanted to say just about the table of contents and I apologize if this is too nitpicky, but I am again very much uh respectful of all the time and effort that you've put into this and will continue to. Thank you, Madam Chair. You're welcome. Well, I I think uh your
comments are are are great for the table comments. Again, what I think um Kathy and Jeff and I have thought about as the best way to process individual comments will be we're going to take this home. We're going to understand it better
tonight. Um and anything that's a 10,000 foot flyover that we see, you know, we really need to adjust. It's not the words, it's not the content. Um uh it it's more or or how it's organized. We need to get that back to Kathy and Jeff
this evening to the degree we can. But individual comments um the expectation that I have and Kathy and Jeff have is that we will look this over carefully and provide all of those comments directly back to Kath. Um and then they will begin to incorporate all of those.
And you would like that in writing as opposed to tonight in this format. Okay, Madam Chair, that makes sense. and and I will try as as best I can not to do my silly nitpicking to Will. Um I take the word silly out. I don't think
it's I don't think it's bad. I for me um but I would I I I did have um I may have lost my train of thought here. Um, oh no. If the executive summary, Jeff, is really not really
pertinent until we're done or we're at the end stages. Why don't we just leave it blank? Can we Why does the Cape Cod Commission need to see it? I don't think they do.
I think it's because they don't want to read the whole document. No. cuz cuz he's we're not going to have an executive summary until we're very done. So let's why not let's just not worry about it. Did we lose an invisible ink I think is what Madam Chair is saying. Yeah. Did we
lose Jeff? I'm not here. Can you hear me? Now we Yeah. Yes. I'm here. Yeah, I'm listening. Um I think it's if if that's your preference, we can take it out. I would like to keep a version going so that we can make notes and
identify things that should live there. But for the for the Cape Cod Commission, I don't see a problem with removing it um for that purpose. Okay, great. Anyone else? Um yeah, and I'll take any feedback. I I I I just I think just
getting into the grammar and word might be a little challenging to do as a group in this meeting, but I think if there's structural questions or issues or if there's something glaringly wrong in particular, you can tell me that. And then missing is also, you know, that's the task at hand.
Um, I am happy. I'm fine with all this discussion, too. So, um, I have no concerns with that. I I shifted over to the growth policy. This is a onepage view. This is about as big as I can get it, I think. And if they'll see it tonight, is this um sufficient or is it
It's better than the quad view. Thank you, Jeff. And what page is that? I just just to follow along. Page nine. Page nine. Thank you. I'll try to match it with the screen here if I can. That's the last thing I'm trying to do is make you do more work here, Kathy. Madam Chair, can I go back to page eight for a
quick second? Sure. And I I think maybe I'm out of line because I think you want me to give you this in writing, but um when I look at the the bullets, some of the things that we're saying here are some of the things that we tend to get most criticized for.
Communicates effectively and transparently. If there's nothing I've heard more about in the town in the last six months is how lousy we are at communicating. Uh has a businessfriendly approach balanced with community goals and interests. If there's another thing I've heard complaints about is that
we're not businessfriendly. And the last one is has modernized library facilities. Our library was built in the 1800s. This is our vision, right? But this this is what we want. I think this is pulled directly from the vision plan, Jim. Yeah, I understand that. Well, it's the thing
that has already been printed and put put out into the world. This is what we want to have. I understand that. Never mind. I I'll send you my notes. Never mind. I'll send you my notes. Yeah. And we did keep it in. It's it's verbatim of what of the vision plan
that's been kind of adopted by the town. I think it's a I think the important thing, Jim, is that it's the it's the aspirational goal. It's the thing that it's the things that the town wants to achieve. and then everything here on out from here on out in the LCP is intended
to try to accomplish those things. So, it is that forward um looking vision. But, um if you have additional comments, we'd be I'd be happy to hear them. Yeah, I'll send them along. I I I think I think Jim with with regard to that, I think just a simple I'm just doing this
really quickly and I know we're not going to editorialize tonight, but a simple thing might be as a great place to live. Uh, Yarmouth is a town that wants to improve or strives as a great place to work, a town um strives to
whatever we can we can, you know, so we make it look like it is truly a vision and a goal, right? There's a way to do that. That's kind of where I I can completely understand someone you're looking at it from someone who's maybe not been involved in the vision process and we're making statements
about who we are right now. That's not the case. Yeah. Right. Good point. Okay, Jeff, back to you. Okay. Yep. And so, um, page nine is where I was going to start the growth policy. So, again, this is probably something that will change a little bit more, but this is based on
the community input that we've get gotten so far and based on the review, you know, of the planning board and bringing this to the select board. Um, and so this was kind of drafted previously, but I think, you know, there there's always the opportunity to kind of keep looking at it. Um again, but
this has been kind of written, you know, together as a group. This was drafted um over the past couple months. Um I did add and this and this this is page 10 in the version that you have. I I just added this this afternoon. This was um so the the image
the graphic is not in your packet, but this was what we presented at the second community meeting. This is part of what we'll start to see in this chapter 2, the community goals. Um, and I've just made the placeholder that, you know,
identifying the community goals, um, suit the local needs, but also consistent with the goals of the regional policy plan. That's that's the directive from the Cape Cod Commission. So, that's the that's the objective of this chapter is just to show that the community goals are aligned with the
Cape Cod Commission goals. And this was the early graphic that we started to put together for that. Um, so I wanted to put something in there because we have had this discussion a little bit about this. Jeeoff, I'd just like to go back to u the growth policy and again I'm sorry to
revisit this but as I read it again we don't mention anything about Yarmouth Port and Yarmouth Port has its own little commercial district. I mean we we
we have a major uh uh uh uh health provider up there now, Urology Associates, right, which the planning board was very involved in getting that make that happen. Um we have some professional parks where is and some
others on Willow Street. Um I'd like to try to work in some language that talks about Yarmouthport. Maybe not that it's a place where there can be growth, but that there can be um some attention paid to further
development and redevelopment. There's literally a 6A re there is a 6A uh improvement corridor study program for the street. It's the village village center. Well, I just meant maybe there's a way to mention that because that clearly won't be done by the time this
is done. Well, it's in here. It's in this. Oh, I know. I just meant maybe this could be irrelevant. Yeah, I'm just thinking it is a commercial corridor with with ins and restaurants. Um, again the bank um the professional park and
it's like a mini commercial post office that I go to frequently. Um, well that's technically Oh, that one. Oh, I'm thinking of Come. Oh, ma'am. Not that one. Not that one. The one I go to historic sites. It's it's where many of our historic So I'm I'm just throwing
that out there that I I want to be sensitive to that part of town in terms of we should be looking at what kind of a growth policy we think maybe that segment of town uh might be different they it is different than the other parts of town. Yeah, we can we can look
at that. There was there was good there was very good conversation about um 6A yarm board um at the second community meeting and I think not to not to put words there yet but it was like really preserve the unique characteristics of
of you know that section. So I think that's kind of the growth policy is intended to kind of you want to preserve and enhance but it's not necessarily like grow it immensely. So I think we can put some words there and I think it it is important to acknowledge that area. Right. That's perfect. And again,
I think there's opportunity, you know, as you take this home, you know, read it reading it before bedtime. Um, adding adding other things into that's the whole point of this version is I think we're at the point where we can start to kind of like add add elements back in um
where they're appropriate. So, I think that that makes sense to me. And the only other thing I would add to that is the old Kings Highway Commission and its relationship to everything north of 6A. I I don't think we pay enough
attention six above six. I'm sorry. Thank you. um do do we need to pay any more attention to their um their requirements and their regulations and how that may we don't we don't really talk much
about it at all. Well, we mention it in our in our historic districts. I guess with the growth policy, this is kind of where do you want to see not just tiny little growth, but real growth. Yeah. And I think that really is route 28. I mean, and then the last sentence is as our community grows and evolves, ensure
the protections of historic and cultural resources, promote resiliency and stewardship and so we're talking about we want to maintain our historic. I'm a little concerned how people on 6A might view if we're like seeing we want to see a lot of growth in your commercial corridor along 6A. They don't. No, but
historic preservation and enhance because there's enhancement enhancements. Specifically mention Yarmathport then. I mean, we we're listing neighborhoods that are in South Yarmouth and West Yarmouth. Maybe we mention specifically, you know, ensure the protection of historic. I I don't
know. It's just a suggestion. Somewhere I think Yarmouth Port's going to feel left out. Y I agree. Which they want to be. Well, as far as I mean, as far as in my personal experience, I I would think that the general perception of the the north side of the town is um we like it
just the way it is. Don't don't fix it. Well, except for the 6A improvements that they also would like. If we recall the Davenport project, simply creating 14 houses and that's not anywhere near the village of the Howlets
in a whole area. So I I I mean there's really no place to for well there might be but economic growth along the 6A car. So I think really the only idea is you know preservation and and promotion of historic features. I think the growth
might be and one of the comments that came up was you know having top of shop housing over some of those existing commercial allowing that as an option. Um which it it is allowed now with one you can have one but um okay if you go back to that desire to have a history
museum most likely somebody who wants to create a history museum in the town is going to want to put it on the north side. That's our historic side of town. So that's why Bass River is very historic as well. Well, you and I agree to that, but I'm sure the people on the north side don't. It's also where the Revolutionary War monument is going.
Well, for valid reasons. They had the muster field. Of course, I'm just saying, right? Yes. It's a chicken in the egg. So, maybe just simply making comment that alluding to the fact that the north side is historic and preservation is is that really kind of
is part of economic growth. If you think about it, it is we preserve it. You know, lots of people go on history tours and want to see, you know, the sisters and and the little plaques on the walls and and we want the ins all those beautiful inns to stay there and be
healthy and be successful. If you look at it that way, historic preservation is economic development. Okay. Uh sorry for the interruption, Jeff. Apologize. It's good discussion and I think we'll, you know, put together some
continue to think about the feedback that you want to offer in the growth policy and obviously we'll talk to Kathy and then we'll there'll be another chance to review all this and so this is not this is not the final version but I think it's a good opportunity and I don't I don't actually think there's that many more sections that are sort of
this sort of subjective um elements so you know we can I think we can keep moving through but I would appreciate any thoughts other thoughts you have on the growth policy as we move forward um the community goals we talked about So the structure right now is just set up where in in the first version um we laid
it out landscape. Um we talked months ago about changing the um orientation of the document to portrait. Um, one thing that we haven't really figured out yet is if we're want to do two columns or just one kind of like regular column of
text, we're gonna we're going to shove that for a little bit longer just to make sure that we can get through sort of the content that the board wants to see and then getting the draft to the to the Cape Cod Commission. And then I think we'll revisit kind of this whether we want to have two columns. But what's
my point here is that um the way the document the LCP in general will flow is we really see like full you know full pages or half pages of images um depending on whether it's a chapter or a section that'll be the way you know
along with color coding to kind of get the reader to to be able to find their way through the document. Um, we had taken a shot at that in the first version, um, and it was working okay. But I think this next version, you know, we're really gonna like chapter 3 is the
longest chapter of the whole, um, document. Um, so we'll have this kind of clear introductory page that tells you you're in chapter 3 and then within it as you go through the different um, systems, we'll have we'll be using page breaks, photos, and other ways to kind
of break it up. Um, but in my opinion, it breaks up a lot better now than it did before. Um, so we have an introduction. I did notice that in the version that I sent, so I'm on page 12. Um, there was just a missing sentence. The chapter is broken down into three
sections of natural built and community systems. And just to give the reader that overview of what chapter 3 encompasses, so this is kind of just kind of standard language. Um what we did want to say um is that we did create
the chapter with the goal of being easy to read as a summary and introduction to complex matters. Um you know this is residents and business owners and town officials and town members will use it as a guide. Um wherever possible we're going to use links to give to get people
to more detailed information plans and assessments. Um, so we're kind of just trying to preview that for for the readers that, you know, maybe just picked this up for the first time. Then as we go into the systems, so this page will be, you know, able to be
identified. This will introduce the natural systems. Um, so we I do have a placeholder here for inserting some baseline data and trends that will cover some of the some of the statistics that we want to capture here. And then as you see the again the big
change that we we wanted to make or propose to make is with water resources um breaking it down into the three subjects I mentioned. But so with wastewater and all the preceding sections we're we're really seeking to
kind of give um a concise but helpful overview sort of a summary. Um, this is background information or introductory information in the section that can be helpful for readers to get the glimpse of what they're going to what they're
going to look at. And then for the key issues, this is pretty much the language that the board has passed around and circulated amongst different groups. Um, I pulled it through so it lands here in this section, the key issues. And then for each of the
preceding you know elements that we kind of will go through then we created this recent actions by the town related to whatever the subject is. So this is where you'll see more concise um attempts to kind of capture like just
the facts kind of to summarize some of the recent actions that really that really are impactful to the the town overall. And so for for this section, the the comprehensive wastewater management plan is really this this
guiding document. Some of these will have some of these will have links. This one should have a link to it. We can link to the information that's available on the town's website to get people right to the more detailed information. But this is a summary. you know, this is four paragraphs to to try to describe,
you know, two two decades worth of work and kind of to kind of talk about how, you know, looking ahead, there's going to be many more phases or more decades after that or decades after that. And that comes through in the action plan for sure. But this this was the way that we think we can get a much more concise
document. Um, and then to kind of show you kind of where we go like with water supply, we take the opportunity to kind of talk about the drinking water supply in these three introductory paragraphs. And this is this is the hard part is that we want to give the reader just
enough information but not make it overwhelming so that they don't continue to read. Um, so this is this is where if you have input, Kathy Kathy spent a lot of time helping kind of craft these sections. Um, so just please know that, you know, she's she's been able to get
through most of this document with me. And then we pulled through the the key issues. And so again, not to be too repetitive, but these key issues have been identified, kind of reviewed, Wordsmith, um, you guys went through the exercise to change the wording and format of all this. And so that's pulled
through. And then we get into the recent actions um, about water supply. And so you can see here um this really probably should be on its own page page break kind of pull it down to the next page but this is POS the water conservation
policy and then the water system master plan. So, in red text on my screen that I'm sharing, I added this. Um, as I was prepping, I realized that this wasn't in there, and it should have been, but in 2019, the town completed a water system master plan. And so, with the link to
this document, it it pro it provides you that Kleinfelder report, which has the extremely detailed information about the water um supply system, the water facilities, and all the future oriented action items that are embedded in there. And so that's in the version I'm sharing
on my screen. It's not in your version yet that you have in front of you. And then finally, the fresh freshwater and saltwater systems, if you will. You know, this is is kind of the the structure that allowed us to pull this out, identify the key issues and the
recent actions by the town um related to kind of those water systems. Previous to this um it was one goal um grouped together with one long set of actions and I think this really um is demonstrated in in the targeted action
plan is the to separate these out. They're they're really distinct issues and all three are pretty important uh enough to be kind of discussed separately. So from here I I don't know that I'll go word by word but we have wetlands and wildlife plant habitat.
It's the same structure. Open space falls under the natural systems and and I'm so I'm on page 22. So here we're really we're showcasing the Parker's River Landing Project, the open space plan. It the
tendency would be to keep going and add more and more projects. Um but so many are summarized in the open space and rec plan that we would really want to get people to point it directly to that document. Um, we did kind of capture the last paragraph under this section is
that um, kind of a summary since 2015 of some of the really key acquisitions and projects that have been completed for open space. Again, this LCP is not the it's not the in-depth kind of um, review of that, but it's a showcase to kind of
show the key ones. And then the last piece of the national systems is the cultural resiliency. So here I am highlighting, so I'm on page 24. from highlighting that we want to insert a couple really important sort of baseline data and statistics here. Um, we started to kind of capture that with the the
stuff from the 2017 hazard mitigation plan. You know, the town's in the process of updating that. So, we want to figure out what we can pull from the new plan versus the old plan. The key issues again are are you've seen those and then
really the recent actions. This is a good opportunity. This is a good example page for us to showcase all the hard work that the town has done. So the community resilience, you know, starting in 2019, the climate change vulnerability assessment in 2023, the
lowlying road study um between 2021 and 2024, and then the action grant for kind of the Route 28 South area. Um here's the housing housing mitig housing mitigation plan. And then we crammed in kind of the 10-year dredging and beach
nourishment permit. And so that is a good showcase of all these really important projects, each of which has detailed information available for people who really want to dive in. And that's kind of the structure that we are trying to to maintain for the rest of
the document. And so build systems, we would imagine a halfpage photograph some way for the reader to know that they're shifting. And so we can use colors and and some of the um icons that we had from the first plan. So there we should
be able to highlight for the for the reader that this is shifting to build systems with a kind of a description based on the Cape Cod Commission um regional policy plan. And then um this section I'm sure the group is going to want to review and make make comments
and edits on, but we didn't really have a land use discussion in the first version. So, in in the first paragraph is where we want to kind of capture um basic information about the population, but then take a quick um trip down
memory lane. We're going back 12,000 years and and kind of trying to summarize that tremendous tremendously long period of time briefly um because there's a lot of information available about this, but we want to kind of just put something in the LCP that helps
people kind of flash back. And then what I was finding um from putting this together is and I'm kind of shifting between page 28 and 29 um but 1999 through 2012. It it's it's a long time
ago, but those are core pieces of zoning that the town put in place that really have um kind of situated the land use that you're seeing today. And as you all know many of these we we we might want to be looking at these again you know as
Route 28 all the improvements are happening with the sewer and all those other the you know the the mass DOT tip project. I think the goal and all the action items are really looking at you know these again in 2025 and beyond to find out if they're providing the things
that the town wants. But it is really important to anchor the land use section in those um in those actions. And then we're highlighting the key issues and then the recent actions by the town. So you know the the growth
incentive zone, the seasonal employee housing, we we talked about putting it here or talked about putting it in housing. Um but it's here right now. U the mixed use analysis, the Madakis project is here. Um, and there could be others, but these were the highle ones
that really are related as a land use um, in the community design. So, transportation and connectivity, it's it's it's a lot of the same. I think here we we have some baseline um, data we want to in insert about tourism traffic volumes and
trends, but the key issues have been vetted. um doesn't mean there's not room for changes on those, but I do want to just keep saying that those have been done those you guys have looked at that a couple times. And then the the the key actions. So here we're we're trying to
start to identify that this document will be published in the end of 2025, but we're looking ahead a little bit. So in 2026 is the projected completion of part parts of the rails trail. Um this and then we're kind of going backwards down the number line here to 2025 is the
station a corridor study. Um 2025 is also the Bass River Bridge project. Um and the Route 6A um corridor improvements even though they're not completed. Um they've been well underway and we're linking to kind of the web page that the town has available which
you know in theory should be updated. So even as we publish the PDF of the LCP, you know, at the end of the year, as long as that web page is maintained, people can still access that information. The vision zero, so that's a the Cape Cod Commission project. Um,
we are adding some information about the regional transit authority. I think there's not a lot of information, you know, available in terms of planning efforts for public transportation, but this is something that is currently happening. It's talking about the 15 Cape Towns and and talking about public,
you know, public transportation. So, 2023, the mass DOT held their 25% design year. That's the most up-to-date information we really have about the 28 project. And then the the airport master
plan. So, climate mitigation and energy um similar. I don't think I'll read through this. I think this is where, you know, I think I would shift to the board kind of taking time to review some of this. Um page 36 is waste management. So we're identifying the committee um the
residential waste drop off and then we um I can see actually I'm on page 36. I can see that we um will have this regional commercial transfer station information to add. um that is obviously not right there,
but it will be. So, I I was looking Kathy for some information about that. I think um I would like to ask for a little bit of help finding, you know, the the most relevant place to source some of that information. I tried to and I didn't find anything. Maybe um that's something we can work with Roby White
House on. She's our assistant DPW director, so Okay. Yeah, that'd be great. And I in all honesty I I remember seeing a presentation from from director KBY um about the waste about the transfer station some somewhere in my research maybe it was 2023 or 2024 and I
was trying to find that at least as a it was a presentation to the select board and I think that there is a at least a way to get kind of that generalized piece of information to fill this to fill this section from that um presentation example recent actions
there in in some of these there are not a ton of recent actions and I think that's okay. Um, but I think the waste management one is is an example where it's just not there's just not that long list like there is for land use. Um, and you'll see that as you go through the
document. And then shifting again, we put it in purple um will be colorcoded. We'll have an image here and we'll will help people realize that they're shifting to the community systems um which is really the culture, people and economic activity of the area. And that's the way that the Cape Cod
Commission kind of broadly defines this. And um the first kind of subsection is the character and cultural heritage. And Kathy helped me with this section. Um because we this was an area that we made a pretty big change from
the first draft. Um, and what what we were finding in that first draft, we were kind of had a section on the fire department and we talked about the types of work, the type of work that the fire department does and and the number of employees they have and the police department and the police force and the
libraries and what we see in other LCPs that have been certified by the commission is that that's that they're not doing that. um this section is really not it doesn't need to be this deep inventory of all the municipal sort
of services and that might bleed into the next section actually I I I apologize I think I'm getting ahead of myself that's actually town services so here um Kathy helped me kind of frame this in terms of the cultural and historic elements um we we talk about the tourism res uh preservation fund
because that is really instrumental that was a really important thing um in the typ of projects that it it funds really feeds into this cultural section. The key issues, again, there's there's three that have been identified thus far. I'm not sure that we'll end up
with just three, but I think those are the three that have been kind of vetted and bounced around. And then kind of starting with today, the 2025 at the town common feasibility study, which was just funded by your town meeting, the public arts committee, the revolutionary war monument. Um, I added in some of the
festivals as a as a observer of Yarmouth, you know, looking at the seaside festival and and the the sand sculpture and many others that Kathy was really putting in there. You know, those are emblematic of the cultural activities that are happening. And we really think that this is a good place
to to put them there to kind of showcase that these are actions that the town is taking or supporting that help create the character um that you have. And so it's not a perfect fit, but I think it is important to kind of think about those types of things. And here's CPA
and the historical commission. So I know a section that um will be a little bit of a work in progress is the economy. We did try to pull sort of standardized, you know, census data to put in here. Um but I'm not I'm not quite sure it's
where you would all want it to be. We are flagging um let's see I'm on page 43 and I am flagging insert additional baseline data and trends aligned with the 2020 data sheet. So the the data sheets that were produced for the visioning plan
actually had a pretty good sort of bulleted list of some of of of it's kind of a mix of data and trends and so I think we want to resurrect some of that and put it in here. Um, we just didn't get to finish that before we gave you the draft. I'm scrolling back up.
Actually, no. Sorry. Now I'm getting making everyone sick. Going down to page 44. This was one thing I just wanted to highlight for the planning board and it's related to the data sheets and trends. So, right now the the chapter is
set up so we've identified key issues and those have come from a variety of sources. Those are the interviews with businesses and stakeholders. There's also the community input and your your direct input. Some of the issues are very similar to the trends that were
identified in that data sheet and starting to kind of decipher the difference between a data point and a trend, you know, is something that the economy section really highlights, you know, that we we need to sharpen a pencil on that a little bit. But I think
the example um is um the the bullet that describes the heavy reliance on seasonal tourism with limited high quality diverse round round year- round jobs. So that's perfectly identified as a key issue. It was also identified as a trend
in that in that data sheet. And so I think here I I wanted to just preview that we might want to add under the key issues a way to kind of identify a trend as a as one of the issues. And I haven't figured it out exactly how to put those
words together, but I think it'll fit better than calling out a whole another section that just has a bolded headline of trends. Um the economy section was really where I struggled with deciphering what's a trend and what's data and a key issue. So, um, as you're
going through this, if you have thoughts, I would appreciate them and we can, you know, keep talking with Kathy about how to structure that. And so, I'm kind of thumbing through um to page 46. Madaks shows up
here um under economy and it showed up under land use and it's going to probably show up under housing. And so I think our our task is to make sure that the description, the paragraph describing Madakis is tailored for each of those sections, but it is the type of
project that that does kind of run through all these different chapters. And kind of getting to the tail end of this, town services is where I was getting ahead of myself before. Town services is the section where we were making it more of an inventory of
all the town services. And in looking at the LCPs that have been approved, it's really not there. There's actually not a lot none of them actually have kind of like this description of the fire department or police department and library. And it really just kind of jumps right in. And so, you know, as the
plane board reviews this, I think that's the that's the that's the pattern we want to follow. Um especially given the the number of key issues that have been identified under these kind of subheadings. So general government, public safety, health services,
libraries, senior age friendly services, education and learning. So these are well-crafted issues that then um you know they correspond to the action the action items a little bit later. But
what we're doing with um this this next section is where um like this for example, my understanding is the vote happened. Um we will describe the proposition 2 and a half for additional funding for for fire department staff
and then the next item is the fire department strategic plan. So instead of inventorying the fire department and trying to describe it, we we want to refer directly. We want we want people to see the fire department strategic plan which has all that information. So
um the police department doesn't have that um but it does have some of the information. The recently completed facility condition assessment is going to be a really critical document that um we're referring to here that outlines all the improvements necessary for all the town buildings. Um and then the
library strategic plan. The um Dennis Armouth Regional School District is in the process of creating a strategic plan. So we want to instead of cataloging it all at the beginning, we want to refer people to those those plans which you know tremendous amount of time and effort have been put into
those recreation and entertainment. Um just going through that you know golf is a is a is a work in progress. I think we want to flush that out a little bit more. And I think here I'm going to stop for a moment just before I shift into housing and just find out if I lost everybody or if I'm silly if I'm hit
mute on accident or something. No, we're still here, Jeff. Still here, Jeff. Keep it keep it going. Okay, great. So, um I will go back to screen share. I'm going to end up on page 53 for for the housing section.
So again, this is the first time you guys are going to see a draft. And even when Kathy was looking at it, I I I do think there's going to be things that you all will want to add and things that we want to massage through the way this chapter reads, but I did change it up a
little bit from the first version. Um, we're really trying to showcase the housing production plan. Um, but we don't, and it was directions from the Cape Cod Commission. We don't want to just take everything from the housing production plan and publish it in the
LCP. Um, they don't want that. We don't want that and the community probably doesn't want that either. So, trying to position the housing production plan as this overarching document, it's really important. However, as some of you probably know, it doesn't really cover market rate housing. it doesn't it
doesn't really give the town direction on on um you know goals and actions for all the other types of housing issues that you have. So one of the things we we do want to do is acknowledge that there is uh a fair amount of hard work
that's been done at the Cape Cod Commission to look at housing across the region. And so this was one document that as we're going through this um the it's 2023 it's it's pretty recent and it's the housing needs and analysis for
for the Cape and this is where it helps really identify some of the really critical trends that we're seeing and the issues um in terms of Yarmouth specifically. Obviously we all know that it's not just Yarmouth but um the the it's becoming increasingly unaffordable
for residents. So that's that's one of those sort of trends. Um shortage of both rental and home ownership. Um the percentage of housing units that are um designated as affordable is 5%. You know, we're all trying to achieve the
10% goal. Um expecting a decline in the number of um uh year- round homes is a trend that Yarmouth is experiencing, but it's Capewide. So just that kind of that introductory set the stage you know in
the media and everywhere else you know it's a housing crisis and if the plane board wants to further identify that um this would be a good time in your review is to capture whether we want to identify you know the national trend and the Cape Cod trend of this being a
housing crisis that we're that we're facing. And then what I attempted to do was to kind of start to just um pull out some of the key data points. So population and population trends, housing costs, and this is where we had
a little bit um of some questions about the data that we'll that we should be using, whether we should be using the 2021 and 20 data that's in the housing production plan or kind of provide this 2025 update. But we
wanna we want to keep referring to the 2024 housing production plan um and the data that it has because it's it's a deeper dive. That was the intensive document. You know, that was the intensive research that was done. So, we don't want to lose lose track of
that. We're not we're not able to update all the pieces of data that were gathered as part of the housing production plan. So there may be some discussion points here talking about the housing stock, talking about the affordable housing inventory and then kind of talking about the key issues
that you as a group have identified related to housing when this crosses between uh market rate and affordable housing. Um, and I'm not sure Kathy if this was actually the best
time to do it, but at some point this a quick discussion of the seasonal um community designation. you know, it is it does seem relevant and important to identify even though the town was not automatically included um because it's a
topic of conversation because there are strategies and um potential opportunities uh for those communities to combat some of the impacts. Um right now it's really just a placeholder in here, but um I'm trying to glean
information where I can. you know, you have your ongoing study on the short-term rentals with the UMass Donahue Institute. I don't I didn't have access to a lot of information for this for this version, but I think making sure that we can incorporate that here
um would be valuable. the housing trust. Um trying to acknowledge the affordable homes act and especially the accessory dwelling unit work that you guys have worked on the way the law changed and then of course the housing production plan and then we and then I did repeat
kind of the seasonal employee housing zoning bylaw here. So that's kind of a real crash course on the housing section. Madam chair. Yes. Can I just ask a couple questions? What? Kathy, when is that study on short-term rentals from the Donnie Institute going to
expect it to be completed? They're trying to do their interviews now. I thought it was supposed to be completed by the fall. By the fall. So, that won't help this document truly because I guess Jeeoff, where I'm going with it is Provincetown's already done the exact
same study a year and a half ago that we're doing now in Yarmouth. Okay. Is there any of that information I may glean from that study that would be helpful within this because housing to me is probably one of the number one crisis, you know, along everything else that's going on. But, you know, having
people have a place to live and affordability is huge in this town. Yeah, I think we can either do that or maybe, you know, it's a it's a conversation that maybe Kathy can help with this, but we won't really we won't be publishing. So, we have it like
August, and this is the timeline that I'm going to get to in a minute. Um, as the planning board prepares for the public hearing on the LCP, let's say that's August 20th, a couple weeks before that, if if there could be a way to get an update from that study, um, if
they have any kind of early findings that they're seeing or or important data points, we we would probably want to take that last ditch effort to incorporate that in um to the point that they're at. and then and then look at the action items and just make sure that, you know, we're referring to
implementing, you know, the recommendations of the short-term rental um, you know, project as it's completed. I I just don't know, you know, if we should go to Provincetown to find that or if we can kind of talk to the Donahue Institute about kind of if they have
findings we can incorporate at this stage or whatever stage they're at. I think one of the things that we're going to have and we had the same problem with the open space and wreck plan. It's like projects are still moving in the background as we're trying to solidify things and we're not going to always catch up. Um I think we have
an action item that basically says complete that study uh and con and basically implement you know evaluate implementation of the recommendations made to minimize cost blah blah blah blah. So there's an action item to that and then we're talking about we're doing
the study. How much detail you're able to include will be a function as Jeff said how far along we are and when can we incorporate it but at some point it needs to be pencils down and this is the information that we have. I wouldn't go to Ptown for it. I think we're doing our own individual study. Let's just see what comes out of it. But we've
mentioned it so people are aware of it and we have an action item related to implementation. Okay. Would this not be would would this not be the location of some of what has happened lately on Route 28? We talked about this before. The number of units we've created, the number of hotels have been converted
into housing units. I mean, I've I've tried to scan this quickly. I don't know if it's here somewhere, but I mean, that's the most recent data we have, number of units that have been converted to housing on Route 28, right? I mean, we have two motel that are 100% workforce housing. Possibly another
hotel is going to be 35% workforce housing. I mean this is all relevant data. I mean going so much has happened in the last 5 years looking at 2021 data is is not helpful. So and and to reference it more
than we have to in place of that type of data that we have now. I think the housing production plan highlighted a problem but now we need to to take it and say in 2024 at least because we have the full statistical information for 2024. this is what it costs median and
then this is what you would need to make because when I read this you'd need to make $109,000 family household income. I'm like that's not true. You'd need to make a lot more money to buy a house today. So, we we do need to and I don't think that's extensive amount of updating, but I do think we need to reference more
current data on median income and and household um the costs of of median household uh excuse me, median home costs and then what you would need to earn as a household in order to to um be able to purchase that. I think that
information is relatively easy to find and put in there and and probably Deerra can probably get it in 2.2 nconds. I definitely anything that's census data I can get it in. Uh I I can I'll look for whatever needs updating. Yeah,
deer's our statistical analysis expert. Yeah, I think it's great. I think it's a good discussion. It's a good time to have it. I I think Peter, you did I did have a note that you I think it came from you and it was carried in my notes about putting an update of like the number of units created especially along
with 28. Okay. Um, I do I do agree it's where it belongs and I I want it I want to include it. We just were going back and forth with we're kind of like in the throws of that inventory on room 28 right now. Um, so I can make a note for the next version that we should come up
with some kind of way to summarize the number of units, especially the units that were not um the the units that were not mentioned in the um housing production plan that maybe came after that and to capture the number of units that have been produced at least a summary version of that. So I did have that in my notes. I think that came
through the your comments on the first version and I know I've seen the number of units maybe at one of the housing committee meetings that I've been at. So I know we can probably find that pretty easily. Housing assistance corp has got all that in. Just a phone call to hack
will probably be able to give you it in about two minutes. Yeah. Jeff, I I I uh in relation to what Peter was talking about um in this category, we we have had in
the last couple of years um some significant requests from um hotel owners. So, it's it's not an action by the town, it's an action by our business owners to help themselves with seasonal workforce housing. And they've come
before the ZBA and we've said yes. We've I I don't think there's a an an instance where we've said no. Um but these are actions that were were allow you know the commercial the commercial partners
we have came forward and asked they're trying to help solve this problem too. I guess that's my point and there have been recent actions uh uh Peter had mentioned at least two that we know that are 100% and a recent one that's I think coming up tomorrow or was last week last
week for another 35%. Um, so these are actions that motel owners are taking um to to help the seasonal workforce and I think there must be I'd like to find a way to get them in this category of recent actions however we want to
categorize them um as you know the town then approved them but the actual impetus for it came from the from the commercial sector. Yeah, I think I think if if I could get a little help getting those and and you know just
kind of being able to lodge them in like the ZBA decisions, I think I think that's the way to it would just be a simple paragraph of you know recent ZBA decisions blah blah blah. Exactly. And I think that is the town action I think is like you know in whether it was 2025 or 2024 the zoning board of appeals
approved you know two or three special permits to to you know increase the number of seats. I think that's the way we can do it in a section. Um, I think that's important. So, I appreciate that. That's the kind of stuff I think as you guys are going through this. I think those are the types of comments that this is a great time to be able to to
capture some of that stuff and and add it in. Great. Um, I feel like I'm talking a lot, but I'm going to keep going. We're going to go to capital infrastructure. Usually my job, Jeff. I like listening to you better, Kathy,
than me. Um, so again, this is the first draft. It's it's similar to the housing section where I'm sure um you as board members and residents can can help um massage this a little bit. But I think what what I tried to do is take a shot at an
introduction um using the FY26 budget. The the town has a tremendous amount of information available online. It's very transpar transparent. It should be applauded no matter what. But for to kind of distill it enough for a lay person to who's going to the LCP, we
want to try to I I really was trying to capture the essence of a municipal budget and um you know, I think people do that for a job. So I do see the opportunity for some infographics here. Um the the SIP in the budget actually
has a couple really nice pie charts um that that break down the overall municipal expenditures by topic and it's just going to take time whether we want to incorporate the exact graphics that the town has or kind of see if we can gussy them up a little bit. But I think this is an opportunity to educate people
briefly about the municipal budget. Not not just the capital um the capital plan but just the budget in general. you know, it's one of the only places where we would actually talk about um how all this stuff gets funded over time, which
is which is the budget. So, it's it's a work in progress, but I mean, I'm trying to identify what the town has available in terms of like capital program and capital budget and kind of give the summary. Um I do think that there is like this trend like a theme um in the
FY26 budget. Um the the four bullets that are highlighted here is um a rolling stock plan. Um reducing the the use of free cash um completing which sounds like it it's been done at least the first level of this facilities plan
the facilities assessment and then kind of this guidance document. These are the themes that are you know identified right now in terms of the capital planning efforts and I just wanted to kind of carry that through. we can provide links to the to the budget planning committees web page which has
just an overwhelming uh amount of information available. It's all there and then kind of the key issues which have been pulled through the previous discussions and then really kind of taking this first walk through um recent actions. And so really kind of top of
mind um it sounds like it just was provided and finished is this first the first phase of the facility condition assessment. Um, you know, I think in in it in the in the summary, it says that there may be more there may be more detailed assessments for individual
buildings um to really identify the additional steps and costs, but this seems like a very critical document for the town to have available for the capital improvement plan moving forward. So definitely highlighting that the the
school district their five and 10 year capital improvement plan um a little bit elusive a little bit difficult to find that document. I'm pretty sure as we get towards the middle and end of this we should be able to refer someone to where that stuff exists but I know it's been
discussed. Um and then the the guidance document which again I think I think it is important in this section um because it identifies the bullets on this page. I'm on page 61 really identifies some of the purpose and intent of having this um
capital improvement process and have it transparent and have the departments chipping in and have it have it really forward thinking and it's these bullets here that describe it. Um, and then where we left off was um the description of how the
identified um capital improvement projects align and support the projects that you're identifying in the LCP. And so that's that's where we are we are at right now. And um it was today, I'll be honest. Um you know, requesting some information from Kathy and the assistant
town administrator to get access to those spreadsheets. There's one that's projects by category, which I think will allow us to kind of um sort of sift through. It's a very long list of projects, but for example, like the rolling stock has an itemized list of
every vehicle. And what I think we're going to try to do is just condense that to identify rolling stock as the capital improvement, you know, item and then talk about, you know, where it relates to the to the LCP. So, is this greening
the fleet? Is this making, you know, providing more electric vehicles and kind of going through the building facilities assessment and aligning it with the LCP? Um, we haven't done that yet. So, that's going to be the next phase. And as we talk about the timeline, this is our this is our
immediate next step. As you guys are going through the document for for things we missed, we're going to be um coming up with the second draft of the of the of this capital facilities um chapter um pretty much in short order. It's our it's our top priority moving
ahead. So then um kind of the last the last piece of what I'm going to talk about tonight is the targeted action plan. So, um, I do envision a a cover page, you know, something for the reader to know we're we're shifting gears here within targeted action plan. Um, I did talk I did kind of pull in some
introductory language. This can certainly change. Um, but it's really, you know, the way that the Cape Cod Commission is expecting the targeted action plan to come to come forward. And so that's this placeholder language here.
And then what we do with the targeted action plan is we take the topic the the system the natural systems and we have water resources and we have wastewater management. And so where this gets to be very useful is we can pretty much see um
the goal for wastewater which you've already identified is continue with the implementation of the Yarmouth wastewater program and then the action items. And so this is it right now. It's it's it's currently six action items and this is from that document that Kathy's been very helpful kind of walking around
and everyone a lot of people have seen it and in one almost like one page you can see the targeted action plan for wastewater and it's really kind of distilling the the work that's been done. So now we're shifting to water
supply. And so the goal, you know, shakes out as attain a sustainable supply of high quality drinking water to meet our community needs. And that was this was once one goal and we've pulled it out, teased it out into three. And then the actions. So this this has a lot
to do with PAS. Um the the second action item which we've talked about already is really determining the future drinking water supply demand. So you have that 2019 plan and there are some questions and effort to be done to make sure that it can um be suitable for for new growth
moving forward. So I won't do this with all of them, but basically here's fresh water and saltwater systems and the action items associated. And so we're down to, you know, a page and a half. And once we get into formatting, we're going to see we're going to make this
look nicer for people to kind of see how the actions are laying out. But right now, this this whole section um with the work of Kathy and others, this this is pulled through from that working document, the key issue document that's been sent around um except it's kind of
set up so that as we move through this, the targeted action plan um I'm going to jump to um the built system. So here page 72. So the goal is identified for community design and land use and then
the actions are here. And then what we can do is under transportation and connectivity. We have the goal and action items here. And so this really starts to take shape as the targeted action plans that you would see. You know, we were looking at the town of Sandwich um in the town of Brewster's
LCP and this is going to get us that targeted action plan that's easier for people to to go to the the topic that they're interested in seeing and see the targeted action plan. And so, um I think I'm going to end here
um just with a note on Yes, I'm going to end here just with a note on the targeted action plan. you have seen those actions a few times. So, as you want to change the verbiage and smithing, just just be cognizant that you you've done that twice already. Um,
it will need work and I'll take suggestions and Kathy and I can kind of work through it. But the the board and others have kind of worked through that and I just kind of pulled those tech those text items through. Um, so I could take questions or I could kind of
quickly show the schedule which Kathy and I were talking about. We took the tail end of our overarching schedule and and kind of made it more um uh more zoomed in. We have more touch points to to talk about with the board. It's going to be busy over the next couple months.
So, I don't know. Jeeoff, I think I'd like to just do questions and then we can jump to the timetable. Okay. Um any questions, comments? Um I I have a couple. Uh, and they're I I think they're at the 10,000 foot
flyover. Um, and I mentioned this to Kathy uh earlier. Um, the the language here I think um overall just we just need to be careful about who the author is. Is this going
to be a first person or third person report? In some places we use the words we and our and in other places it's you know it's the facts ma'am. So I just want to be consistent. Um I'm not sure where the board would like to go. I
think the the kind of our we thing um is is I'm comfortable with. Um it's uh something that I think commonly we use in our documents when we speak about planning board actions. Um, but I
noticed that kind of overall kind of it because I know you're pulling from various documents, Jeff. Um, and and I appreciate that. But I think at at some final look, it we need to identify the voice. Um, and and uh I I I would look
for any comments uh from the board on that. Um, the other thing generally uh uh again at 10,000 ft footnotes. Uh are we gonna have footnotes or not? Um there are some in some places there are. I uh
personally I don't I don't want I don't think we want to have footnotes. Um I would I I defer to the town planner of course. Um but those are you know some of the um uh smaller items but I think as we go
through it we need to we just need to think about it. Um and the other thing uh generally on the definition the introductory definition of the systems um the three systems in two cases we do refer to the Cape Cod Commission uh but
the first one on natural uh we didn't so I just like to again if we're going to com if we're going to indoctrinate some Cape Cod Commission language here as to why these things are called systems to begin with we didn't choose that that's
uh that's a format that's been given to us. Um I'd just like to have that kind of consistency um uh throughout. Um otherwise I think it's a it's it's a draft that's moving along really well. Um and I know a lot of work has been put
into it and our job now is to uh for us to go through this very carefully and get our comments to Kathy um and to you Jeff. But I want to I want to thank you for the you know the very quick turnaround on all this. Um this is an awful lot to start to put together. Um
so so thank you for that and uh any other comments uh from the board. Madam Chair, if I may. Um I agree with your your comments with regards to consistency. Sometimes when I'm reading different chapters I feel like different people have written different they have
parts of this. Um, some of it is very flowery, if you will. You know, uh, we have beautiful green flowing lawns on our golf course. Come on. Um, I don't I don't want you to go back and and rewrite the the whole thing. But I I
think trying to make it feel like it's been written by 10 people or or one pe person is something we need to decide. And do we really need all these flowery adjectives throughout this thing? you know um that well go go through it and mark them up.
So those are the types of but again the whole idea that I would like that the whole thing read as though it was written by one and not a comm and clearly has been written by a committee but um how we try to structure some of that. This is more talking to Jeff if
there's something you can just think about when he's putting this uh the we and I's and they all kind of flows as one not like five books. That's all. I'll give my rest of my stuff like anyone
else. Okay. When is the I just want to review the We'll go through the timetable. So, why don't we do the timetable? Yeah. And just one one quick question. If if the board has any um opposition to the um the we and our
approach. Um I I appreciate that, Joan. I I think if we can get some clarity on that if the board is okay with going with we and our um we can we can kind of make that consistent is a great time to do that and I would like to do that before we send the draft to the KPAC commission. So I guess does anyone have
an objection to that approach because that will allow us to to make sure that that that kind of tense is in there. I just think pick it one way or the other and and make be consistent throughout. If we use we an hour that's fine with me. I don't care what you do, but it I think it just needs to be consistent
throughout the the document. It's a community document. So, I think we and our I have a tendency to write that way because it's our town. It's not my town. It's not Madam Chair. Is it is that is that consistent? I can't remember with what Sandwich and Brewster just did because they've gotten theirs passed
recently. Jeff, do you know? I don't know off the top of my head if I'm assuming that it is. That also makes sense in terms of just doing the dance with the Cape Cod Commission. Not to mention the fact that
it's more appropriate to begin with. Yeah. Yep. And uh just one to respond to Jim. I think it's important and we did try to take out the flowery. We just tried to stick to the fact. So if the golf one is the hold over, that was a work in progress. I please flag anything that you feel like still has that sense.
Uh we did try hard. I I tried hard to make sure that we were reducing that. I will say a little bit is is identified in other plans. A lot some of the towns have the open space north plan. Yeah. Or in and the other LCPs that we were looking at some of some of them are have
not skipped that uh flowery uh approach. But we I did try to really minimize it. But if you see a section, please flag it because I I think it's important to kind of take as much of that out as as is um feasible. I I saw very few. I think the biggest thing I've ever seen in this
that I have an issue with is under salt water and I'll get this to them is ponds and cranberry bogs are not salt water. Um so we just need to relocate those in on page 18. But that's the biggest thing that I saw in this entire report. So I
think you're doing okay. Yep. Thank you. So are we okay with the we an hour? I am a big nod. Okay. Great. Um one other question and this is um I'll direct it to Mr. Smith with with regard to the capital plan. Ken um the presentation to
the select board. Yes. Must have had a PowerPoint presentation that summarized and and had um do Jeff have you had access to that? It's all on the web page. I've looked at a couple. I mean it
is chair. Yeah. The um as madam chair pointed out I am on the capital budget committee and that PowerPoint is on the CIP website. Okay. And as as a summary document, th those presentations to the board typically can do some of the
summaries that it sounds like you're trying to do. Um, and they're usually pretty detailed if I I if I if I recall, it is probably a 10,000 foot view mostly on the summary, but there is some detail that it gets into because, you know, it
was a presentation to the select board, but also a living working document too that we're going to keep modifying. But I really think from the standpoint of the capital budget, um Jeff, your team really has hit on, you know, what we're
trying to get done, it really is laying out a budget for the future. That makes sense. And that's really what it's all about. And and the web version of that, if I recall, Ken, you can click on an individual project and then you get all the detail you want for each individual project on the web version. So that's
why it's so nice as a starting point. Exactly. Yeah. it would end up being too much information for this document be as big as the whole as big as the whole the whole CI document's about 50 pages in itself. So, okay. Yeah, I I got stuck
into the the uh the rabbit hole the other day. It is a tremendous amount of information. It's all there and it's very easy to find a lot of information and I think just finding the right amount to distill and pull through. Um it was really kind of today that I kind
of saw the um the grouping by project. I I sort of saw that I think that's that's the key for what we want to put forward into the LCP is not necessarily going through the you know the 39 types of vehicles that may come forward in the next 10 years but it's just the idea of
rolling stock and the idea of um infrastructure and just finding a way to show the topical area and the dollar amount that's going to be invested over the next 10 years and then compare it to the LCP kind of action items. And so,
um, pretty soon we'll be we'll be providing another draft of that. And and Ken, I appreciate that you're on that committee. Maybe maybe you're the first person we can talk to about that. Sure. Madam Chair, just one more since now that we've gone down this rabbit hole for one second just to add to it. On the
I flip to page 60 on the DY school district, there is a CIP plan that the school district has developed, a five and 10year plan. So you had talked, you know, right above the link for facility conditions. Well, there is a linkable
plan that the school has put together. So just something that I know you had said you're having trouble getting it getting it. I know it exists because I've seen it. So Okay. Um somebody from the school should be able to provide that and I'm surprised it's it's not online
and it may be it. I don't want to discredit if they have it online and I couldn't find it. Um, but I will I'll look again and if I have trouble, I I'll we'll kind of reach out and figure something out. Sure. I appreciate that. Anything. So, as you're reviewing those, anything like that will be very helpful
to make comments on. Um, okay. And so, talked about the schedule quite a bit already, but um now you should be seeing just a word doc table. Um, at the top is May 21st. That's tonight. Um, I am really trying to acknowledge that we
have draft two of the existing conditions, but really it's draft one of the housing and capital facilities. Um, we're hoping that it's reasonable to ask for for comments by May 30th. Um, and on the right on the far right, I tried to denote where the planning board might
have a meeting and that's for your purpose, but also for our purpose to kind of understand how many how many meets we can potentially attend or not attend and kind of get through all this. This is really draft. Kathy and I were putting this together today, so it's subject to change and it's subject to
your input, but I just wanted to kind of give you the overall sense. Um, June 4th, you know, we're we're slated to attend uh your meeting to talk about the mix analysis and I think we'll be there with Union Studios and that's kind of the sub project, but it it does connect
to the LCP. And then um I I mentioned this to Kathy. I think this is probably the hardest um deadline that in our in the timeline, this is going to be the hardest deadline for BSC to meet, but after kind of back engineering some of
these dates, I I've kind of identified June 11th as a target um for kind of us, the royal we to have a draft of the LCP that everyone's comfortable sending to the to the Cape Cod Commission for their
for an initial review. Um, and Kathy can add to this, but when we met with them, they welcomed it. Um, they invited um a draft to to see where the town's at. They they did offer to see sections. Um, but I think in this case where we are at
is we're pretty close to being able to provide them with a with a draft, maybe maybe without the executive summary, you know, no graphics, but to give them um a draft. And the asterisk here um is at the bottom of the table. Um they said a
full a full you know document which this is long. It's going to be the first time that they're seeing it all could require 3 to four weeks for for the for their staff to go through and provide comments and edits or suggestions. Um right now we're being a little optimistic and we're we're we're
kind of looking at three weeks to get feedback from the commission. Um so that might be something to discuss, but I did want to just mention that. So, if if we could get something to them by on June 11th, it allows us to let at least 3
weeks go by and then we would be um talking about July 9th. I know I'm skipping one date, but it would be July 9th would be potentially a supplemental meeting for the board to review kind of the draft and any comments from the
Capecock Commission. And um the goal would be to to try to be releasing a draft of the LCP for public comment on or about July 14th. Um and I think what we talked about was trying to get a
draft out there for 3 to four weeks and I think right now this is timed out at four weeks where the draft would be available. um the note on the right which we can talk about but you know we can talk about it later as well but town website
email other outreach that robocall you know ways to get that word out that that draft's available um and then kind of concurrent to this you know I think the the program would be to release the draft for the public
um and then try to arrive at a select board meeting around that time and I think um Kathy I think you pencil this in, right? So, maybe July 22nd. Um, so the draft will be out to the public. There could be a conversation with the select board for them to see the draft, make
sure that they know it's out in the public comment and help them spread the word that it's out and available for for commenting. And then the way that the plan board schedule is, I'm trying to I I was trying to be sensitive to keeping to your normal schedule, but Kathy
suggested that or Kathy mentioned that some of these would be supplemental meetings, but August 6th would be a regular meeting of the planning board. And while we might still have the the the report out for public comment, it was a regularly scheduled board meeting that we felt like we could come and we
could at least look at any comments that we're receiving, understand the nature and size and scale and scope of the comments that are coming from the public. And just because it was a regularly scheduled meeting, we could have that conversation on the 6th and then kind of closing the public comment
on or about August 11th. Um, and the reason why this timeline starts to get pretty tight is because we talked about having a planning board public hearing, you know, which is required um on August 20th. And so by this timeline, if we
close comments on the 11th, you know, we're not anticipating a total rewrite. We're anticipating comments, suggestions, and some edits that we think we could probably incorporate in a couple days. And then the planning board would have that full version for for August 20th, the the version that is out
for the public hearing. Um and then just some town meeting notes. Um this is um helpful from Kathy. I think this is still subject to some some discussion possibly some date changes by this by the select board, but this is based on last year.
This is just these are tentative, but there would be the draft warrant language would be, you know, on or about August 26th. And so my understanding is that the the warrant language would be for town meeting to review and adopt the local comprehensive plan, but I don't
know that we need to have the entire comprehensive plan in the warrant. Um so then um we would be kind of targeting September 17th thereabouts for a final draft of the LCP to be in in with the
planning board a couple days ahead. You all seen it throughout the summer, but presumably that would be there would be some kind of vote for the planning board to send that to town meeting. This is just a rough this is my understanding of how it could work. I'm sure it's subject to some variability here. But then
September 23rd, if we are kind of running this tentative timeline, would be the final draft warrant. The draft warrant gets executed in early October. And then I had kind of penciled in November 4th. Um the second the two asterisks there are a suggestion from
Kathy is maybe ex pushing out the special town meeting the special fall town meeting to to a little bit later in November. Um and I don't know the whe how that works and whether that's an option but essentially town meeting is the last step. So town meeting, you
know, there'd be a presentation and and a vote for for the community to adopt the master plan, sorry, the local comprehensive plan and and literally probably the next day, we would be poised to send it to the Cape Cod Commission with the information that town meeting adopted it
and we just kind of are holding December um as a timeline for the Cape Cod Commission to hold their public hearing and to hopefully vote to certify it. So really kind of a condensed timeline from here on out. And I just figured Kathy and I kind of talked about presenting
this to the planning board for discussion tonight. So I think that's that for now. Um if unless there's comments or questions, I think the only comment I would have is we had the special fall town meeting on the 19th of November
last year. Why can't we have it on the 18th of November this year? those two extra weeks or three extra weeks because lots of times we would have it in the last Tuesday in October, all that extra time. So maybe one of the things I was saying is if it's a consensus of the board to send a letter to the select board from the planning board asking
them to, you know, have special town meeting on November 18th, it will allow you additional time with the blah blah blah blah. And then don't forget we have some zoning that we need to be addressing at the same time. Um, that would be my only comment. Yeah. Any any
comments on that? Kathy would like to go forward with that as soon as she can. So I think we have consensus, Kathy, that that extra two weeks would be good for us and for Jeff. So So I'll just work for the plan. I'll just work up a little memo to the planning board or to the select board from the planning board.
I'll run it by you and then I'll submit that. Sounds good. Just a quick question on the June 11th submission. Um is is that a hard and fast date for them? Is that required or is that something we picked? That's something I think we picked by backing into it um by trying
to have the full draft released on the July 14th and and it's three to four weeks for them to I think they said they'd like at least two but prefer three if it's a full full draft because they have to send it to a bunch of different people within their groups times and it might people might
be on vacation sections get reviewed by different departments of the commission madam chair. Okay, I didn't realize that. Okay. And will that have u pictures graphs? It sounds like it won't. My my suggestion might be if we know we want to insert something, it might be good to say insert graphic of
or just so that they know what type of place we would be including to make sure that we hit everything that they might want to see even if it's not directly in there at the moment. Okay. Okay. Correct. And can I just add two things? I mean maybe there's maybe we
can circle back and whether it's a if it's a chart or a graph that is portraying data maybe we want to focus on getting that in but it wouldn't be like photos and you know half page spreads and it would not be that level of formatting at that at that stage. But
maybe if if we're if there's important data um that we want to try to make sure is in there, that that could be an effort that we could try to get as much data into that version, but it won't be like formatted so that it looks real nice and fancy. Um, and then just my
other point was the the goal of pushing that up that it's June 11th would be to give the Cape Town Commission the time to review it because I think it's going to put the town it's going to put the plan in the in the best position to have that commission review before we release
it to the public just in case the Cape Cod Commission and they might come come back with with important suggestions or changes that we like we need to incorporate and we would have the slightest amount of time, but we would have time to make that incorporated change in the version that gets sent out
to the to the public. Um, and then just the last part of this is we're we're trying to put it out for four weeks if there's some kind of detrimental crunch of time like maybe 3 weeks out for public comment um would be one way to make up that difference. And I don't
know like if if three weeks is enough um the difference between 3 weeks and four weeks, I don't know. I I put in four weeks because I think that's what the select board had talked about, but 30 days is a standard for the select board. I think they would be upset if it's less than 30. Okay. Okay. Great. Okay.
I don't have anything else unless unless there's other questions. Any other questions for Jeff before um Go Kath. Um, so you're going to be coming back on June 4th for your analysis on the Route
28. Um, are we going to coordinate maybe next week on that or not? Yes. Okay. Yes, we should. Um, we had we had targeted the 30th as the date for the deliverable, right? Um,
so that we we will need that time, but I think that's going to be our target is to get um the deliverable to you by the 30th, but if if we could talk offline and and just have an opportunity to talk midweek, maybe next week. I think that would be good just to get an I'm not
exactly sure where how much work you've done, where you stand. Might be good to have a quick review before the final deliverable on on Friday. Yes, absolutely. That's always helpful. All right, sounds good. Any anything else? All right. Thank you, Jeff. Thank you, Jeff. Thank you, Jeff. Thank you all.
Appreciate it a lot. Did you want me to give a quick update on the mixed use? Sure. I mean, obviously, we just did the Jeff part. Um, but we're going to be having a meeting, staff's going to have a meeting with Union Studios um next Tuesday where they're going to be
presenting some of their ideas for their renderings in preparation for the June 4th meeting. So that is something that's moving forward and we are working towards putting together some type of panel discussion group um with some questions
so that sometime in June uh we can have that meeting with hopefully it'll be we've sent out inquiries to Paul Nitswiki at the regional Cape Chamber as well as Mary Vilbon at the local chamber. Um Jay Grandandy who's been working with us also has a good suggestion of like um maybe reaching out
and I think you guys mentioned it too reaching out to some of the developers uh who did like Harage Port or Dennisport and finding out who they are and seeing if maybe they can come and if they can't comment maybe quizzing them on and getting doing like an interview on the phone of and ask asking them some
of the questions on how they've made those particular projects work uh for them. So we are working on that financial aspect with the 25th being the final report publication. Anything else on the plan Kathy? I think we covered we got we got all four of
them. Okay. Um next item on our agenda this evening is uh Madaki's update. I got stuff. I think all of the information including down all the land use teams down to the
one my understanding should be on the website by no later than Friday. Um so that's going to be all the giant information. Um the muck is giving a presentation um to the select board on June 3
um where they're going to basically give a a status of you know the project to date the results from the different land use teams uh and then also talk about the public engagement. I don't think that the muck has really had any chance to fully digest any of that or come up
with any um particular thoughts on it, but they're going to be presenting to the select board where everybody stands and all the great work that all the land use teams did. There's a lot of really good ideas. They kind of went back and forth and it's great information, but we're also at the same time working on a
survey that's being done that go out to the general public. So kind of vetting some of these ideas that were camodies and also allowing opportunities for other options if you had another option that you might want to suggest just to make sure that we're touching all the bases and we're not just oh we've thought of this and we're not even going
to think about that. A lot of them I think pro will probably find that they have been thought about and they were dismissed for a particular reason and we can identify that. Uh and then also um kind of having that general workshop where we'd be presenting these ideas like um the individual ideas in in one
particular place would be on July 15th. It would be type of workshop. Hopefully that will be uh here in um the hearing room. We're not exactly sure the format of that and how far along we're going to be, but maybe having some general conceptual ideas of what what we're looking at. So lots of things are going on in
the muck. are going to be very busy this summer just digesting a lot of that information and then seeing how it might lay out on the plans. Madam Chair, may I ask a follow-up question? Um, Mr. Scott has tendered his resignation and I was wondering who is now running point and how long what are there any changes that
you anticipate in the process? I don't know. Good answer. Okay. Okay. We'll see. Okay. Uh any any muck updates that anyone else might have uh that they've
learned on their own or at committee meetings? Okay, great. Um so the next item is some minutes. Kathy, thank you for pulling together all the prior meeting minutes. Um so may I have a motion to accept the minutes of April
16th, 2025? So move you. It was me. Second second. Peter's got it. Taylor. Abstain. Uh, may I have a motion to accept the
minutes of April 30th? So moved. 16. Second. 30th. Sorry, April 30th. I'm sorry. Who? Moved by me. Second. All in favor? I. May I have a motion to accept the
minutes of May 7th? So moved. Second. All in favor? I I thank you. Uh any committee updates? I have one that's sort of related. It has to do with what's Yes, I have a small update
on the sewer project. Um North Main Street and Station Avenue work. Uh 28 will be open, but there's no turns onto North Main Street, as some of us know. Uh so you're supposed to use Pond Street to Wood Street to North Main, but
businesses are still open. I just want to give you a quick update, please. Since I live there. Yes, ma'am. North Main Street is open. Okay. Well, it's paved. Yeah, they paved it. Wonderful. Because that's the update today. Well, okay. Well, that's the up the email I got was yesterday. So, maybe they were just being overly Well, I was wondering
why there were so many cars on street. Yeah. Is that a Is that a I retract Can I retract my update? Okay, you can. Um, he has no update. No, no, no. I do have some update. There's two other areas. No, wait. There's other parts of our town that are experiencing construction. Madam Chair, I'm not sure if you've noticed. Um, in terms of the Route 28
water service work, uh, one lane where possible or detours. But no, good news. No work on Friday and I'm assuming no work on Monday. That means four days of freedom. Um, the same thing at 28 of Frank Baker. no work on Friday, so get
excited or Monday. Um, and I allegedly, and I don't know this, but I believe it to be true, the Southshore Drive, the Parker River Beach parking lot is now open 24/7. Oh, so the Piping PL would get there. Well, okay, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim. Um, and then something related to
that, Madam Chair, just as a quick followup. I'm not sure if you or Kathy watch the select board meeting. There was an executive session to discuss the pump station and I didn't forget to finish watching the select board meeting. Did they make did the did we get some smoke to come out of the uh top of town hall and what color was it? Um
and did they say anything about the location of the pump station and whether it's been negotiated. All right. Well, I guess I'll have to find out in my next rack meeting, Madam Chair, but I it was on the agenda. I don't know if anybody noticed. It was very exciting. Thank you, Madam Chair. Thank you, Will.
Anyone else? And I'm very happy for you on a personal level. Sorry. Housing. Um the uh community housing gave approval for the first stage of the 1121 Route 28 Habitat for Humanity development. Nice.
Street. Right. And I brought a little plan because I thought you'd probably want to see it. Yeah. Thank you. Great. So it's And it's uh I didn't bring all the house. Is that enough? I think it's okay. Okay, we'll share. You can share. You have one and we'll share. Hasn't
changed, has it? She probably has. You got one of these guys. You go. That's cool. And I fig you had one of these there. You know, there are two I think two onebedroom, two twobedroom, and two threebedroom. You got to turn it. that
one house that faces onto Route 28 is being specially designed so that the back of the house will look pretty on Route 28. And um I thought this was going to be nine units. No, six. No, it's six. Is that a
sign out? It's probably because of the sign out front. What it was when it was a VCOD project, it was nine condos in three. Okay, that's why I'm getting the nine. So that's why you're getting the nine. Interesting. Yeah. Okay. And they're very cute and uh cool. They're nice. So, I guess that has to go through
a lot more uh approvals and whatever. And the other interesting point was that the housing authority did not get any bids on the May 7th deadline for the Forest Road property. Intriguing. What
does that mean for the process, Dearra? I don't know. Okay. Neither do I. Yeah. Okay. Interesting. intriguing. Nobody's bid. Could the town have bid on it? That mean nobody wants to go through that grief and aggravation. There's only about a hundred things that could go
there. Okay. Thank you for that. I did not know that. Madam Chair, I would like to tell you that I uh would have an update that everybody in town is listening to the fact that they could get a plank at the boardwalk, but based upon the results of
town meeting uh town elections yesterday, I don't think anybody in town is even awake or paying attention. Um, so, um, and I hope they were, but unfortunately, um, less than 8% of the people in town bothered to actually show up and vote
and act blue wins. Um, so, but anyway, in the meantime, you can still get a plank. $350 for an individual, $450 for a nonprofit, and $550 for a business. Uh, that's the only thing I have for my committee updates, but I do
have a board member update, a comment. um based upon our meeting last week uh where we spoke with regards to the lobster issue and a gentleman from the Justice Institute, Ari, I forgot his
last name, um has forwarded to myself and to Kathy some uh information with regards to some potential bylaw amendments that I'm sure she'll share with the committee sometime when we get to that level on the agenda. I think it's July I think or and so if you're
watching Ari, we're going to work on it, but it's going to take us a little while to get to that. But he did send us some information that requested and Kathy when we get to that point, we'll share that with the board. I did get in writing the um the comments from attorney Pini. You
did provide those. Madam Chair, I have one board member item. Yes. Um, I unfortunately saw the notification today that the town is looking for a new library director. And I would like to thank Jane Kaine for all of her years of service and also when I scrolled through the employment listings
of the town of Yarmmouth. My goodness, Madam Chair, we are we are looking for some wonderful people to serve the town at all levels and including the assistant town administrator, uh the health department director, the department of community development, and
and some very fine people at, let's just say, less salaried positions than that. So, I do hope there are some fine people out there that would like to work for the town. Not to mention, of course, passing of the vote for hiring four new firefighters, right? Which hopefully won't be that difficult. But I do want to thank Jane as somebody that was able
to serve on the library planning committee for a couple of years. And now that the town is moving towards a new centralized library, Madam Chair, um I am very excited for her and thank her for her hard work. Okay. I have I have one board item then
maybe I uh maybe I just haven't logged on to the town website in a while but there's a YouTube video regarding zoning. Yes, it was a YouTube video. Yeah, it got no I got a notification about it today. Yeah, so I saw it. Did
you watch it? Like who gave it? And was Kathy own it? Who gave it though? The video you did. You did zoning. Um and it's It's cartoon-like. Oh, I didn't see it. Okay. I didn't see it.
It's cartoon-like. Uh, I thought it could be a little bit more sophisticated. Uh, but it wasn't specifically about home occupations. Um, and here we go. Why zoning matters. Oh my goodness.
Madam Chair, do you believe that's in reference to all the press the town is getting recently? I believe it is. The Herald article last week, last Thursday I think it was, did not show the town in a great light. It did say the planning board. It's doing their job well, but
that did, you know, over the Mr. Tali situation. So I I I didn't see the Herald. So they reported on our meeting last week. They did. They followed up on our meeting. Yeah, because they had covered it before. I know. Believe it was Thursday. What was it? The ZBA.
Yeah. Yeah. So we came out okay. We we we came out and quoted Will a few times. What? Yeah, we were quoted. Lovely. Yes. Well, I I said everything I said. It was good stuff. Oh, okay. You said no, you reiterated. I said the
Boston Herald because I don't pay them, so I can't. Actually, what they reported, I think, was was important. You It was re reiterated to the uh audience. Yeah. That we are willing to work with them, but it's going to take time. Oh, okay. That's exactly That is exactly what it said. Will Oh, cool.
Well, yeah. I mean, that's good. That's good. There's Yeah, you can't get it up now. Um, for the I wouldn't play. So, okay. All right. It's up. Um, it's all of a minute long and it's it's it's
Well, you can see you can see. Did you know about the video, Kathy? No. I knew that they were working on some language. I thought it was just like a document. I didn't know it was done. I'm sure our fine new communications director made something wonderful. Just it's it's very
simplified and cartoonike. I thought it was going to be lots of information, but I guess not. It's very minimal. I just can't get it to make noise. Sorry. Probably no volume. You just got to read fast comes along. So, yeah. Let let we
can just let it run. I guess did it have any noise? It had Yeah, they would be reading. Oh, pretty much problems happen. When problems happen, go to your mailbox. Oh, dear Lord. Write your first step. See Kathy. So, on
the right is is the petitioner and on the left I mean on the right is the building commissioner and on the left is the petitioner. Oh my god. Very nice. All white men. [Laughter] All women still care. They're all women.
All the petitions, all the complainants are women. That's not person. That's not white. Home occupations. Wow. What's allowed? Types of o Okay, I got it. What's allowed? What's not printing press? What is that? Make bread print. Parking. So, this is about you can't
have people coming and going. You can't have toxic, you know, chemicals. Um, I have so much to say about this, Madam Chair, but perhaps not in a public meeting. Please not. Then it's city hall. It's not town hall. Yeah. Um, we
got myself in trouble. Is a telephone number. Lead you to believe that perhaps this was something that was produced elsewhere and perhaps slapped perhaps we slapped the town's name on it. Interesting that it implied that only women have home occupations. Worse. I don't work. Thank you, General. Yeah.
Anyway, um I it was it was about us, so I thought it was appropriate to bring it up. I I would have liked that our town planner might have had a fingerprint on it, but apparently No, I did read a a um
an outline of like how might you go? I just thought it was going to be a document that was going to be like learn more about it. I didn't know it was going to be a video, that's all. Okay. So, I chair, may I make a recommendation? We invite the town communication director to sit have a chat with us some point. Mhm. I think
that's a I think that's a good idea. Uh we'll find a place on this on the calendar this summer. Great. We'll get her in. We will not be having anything else on the calendar this summer. Just for five minutes. Here's my calendar for the summer. Really?
Exactly. Oh, is that you? Oh jeez, Jim. He said, "Oh, and you wrote your name on it." Oh, look at it. No, no, no, no, no. Zoom. Maybe this is I'm going to be in Newf Finland. I And I just got Starlink, so I think it'll work. I'm going to be in Newfoundland.
Internet in Canada. How long? The entire month of July. We have internet up there. Oh, good for you. I do watch a hockey. Okay, let's uh moving on. Uh nothing else in chair. I did receive a correspondence from um Mr. Gallagher who
came and spoke uh with regards to the vote issue thanking us for uh taking the opportunity to listen to him and looks forward to hearing from us in the future. Thank you. I I did as well. A very nice letter. Uh uh upcoming meetings June 4th. Do you
want me to give any staff updates? Oh, I'm sorry, Kathy. Updates jumped right ahead. I The regional policy plan is being updated. Um, and I sent you the power. Yeah, I don't think it's the You don't need to have quite that face. Sorry. I think
we're going to be Can you say that one more time? I think we're going to be okay. I just want to hear it. Can you say it one more time? Because I The regional policy plan update everybody. Um, so we they had a they're having a bunch of stakeholder meetings kind of going through some of their proposed amendments and their um recommendations.
I went to a meeting on on Monday. I did get the PowerPoint and I sent it all to you guys individually. I don't think anything is too drastic um as far as changing of the goals or the objectives that would be, you know, impacting us in the work that we're
doing here. They do have some different recommendations that you might want to look at and see if you are interested in commenting on. They were going to try and get together some type of financing and and kind of funding um team together about housing, which I think is a good
idea. kind of meshes a little bit with what we're trying to do with our mixed use. Um, but the idea is that they would have a 60-day they use this stakeholder input, finalize it, their draft or 60-day um, review this summer and then hopefully adopt it by the fall. Um, I
don't they're not going to really be changing too much things with activity centers um, and that type of thing, but they are looking at up um, their thresholds. So, I think if you have comments and I sent the link on where to send comments to in the email, um, send
send comments about let's let's if there's certain things that we want to do, let's increase the threshold so people don't have to go through DRRI. So, if you're looking for, you know, some some rental housing of a certain size or something, make that be something that doesn't have to go through a DRRi. We're lucky a lot of our
housing projects um were part of the growth incentive zone um so that they didn't like the Yarmouth Commons, Yarmouth Gardens didn't have to deal with that. So, um, that information is in your mailbox waiting to be reviewed when you get home. Um, I did have a conversation today with with Paul Chawy,
um, who is the our director of information technology about the app and hallelujah, Madam Chair, and the town website. H double hallelujah. So, um, I guess the problem with the app is really is Apple, please. Uh well,
this is what I'm this is I think it's true. Um that they've been trying and and I guess there's certain things that have to happen for Apple to basically accept your app that gets written to put be put on their app store. Um and that's taking a long time. So they're looking at doing it another way and doing it
through a Civic Plus app. A lot of other communities have it done that way. So they're hoping to move forward and have something in the works in 8 to 10 weeks instead of us having waited what eight months or something for Apple to do to do something about it. same token they're also looking at with civic plus
uh improvements to the website so they would and he says well what you know if anybody has any ideas about what's wrong with because I told him we have a local comprehensive action make it mobile friendly that's what's wrong with it mobile friendly a step well there's that and then I think there's just the town website is people like you can't find
anything I have difficulty finding stuff and and I and make it mobile friendly even if it's difficult make it mobile friendly at least it'll be mobile friendly app first they're doing the mo they're doing the app mobile friendly part first, but he asked if anybody had any comments about the town website and things that they could do to make it better. And I got his his card. So, any
of you, he would be more than happy to hear from you. And and you got to take one, Will. You've been most I'm just going to schedule a very pleasant meeting with him and I'm going to I'm going to show him what I go through. I'm going to show him what I go through when I try to interact with the website. He's all on board with the app. It's it's
what can be done with the town website when people log in to the website. So, if you have any comments or ideas, I know that Peter probably your number one comment is put current information up. Well, and there's so many. I mean, if you Google planning board meeting minutes, you'll get you'll get the 2018 link. Things like that that he would
love to know that are no longer relevant or I know you had sent me an email with a lot of those things. So, please h help us help help the town and any things that you have. And I also did mention the thing about how have someone do some beta testing and some, you know, once you're making some changes, let's investigate and see if that's
sufficient. Um, and then the last one is um that pro the waste to water project that's being done by the division of natural resources is moving forward and they're having two public meetings. One is going to be on May 29th from 4:00 to 5:30 here in the
hearing room and also June 10th um from 6:00 to 7:30 here in the hearing room. And apparently they also have a survey u we I don't know how to didn't give a link to it but we I got some flyers over there. So for people out there, I'm sure it's on the DNR website somewhere. Um
they have a survey with regard to ways to water and then a couple public meetings on it. So that project is moving forward. That's like one of those things that you got to update if we can in the LCP because people are making a lot of great progress as we're moving forward. And that's it. I'm I'm I'm glad you um had me pause
at staff update. Uh Peter, you and I are going to be meeting with uh the consultants from Donahghue Institute next Wednesday uh to talk about short-term rentals. They wanted to interview a couple of uh planning board members. So um I I have some of the
history from when we started this way back when, why we why we had to have it uh because there was no language originally in in our zoning for it. Um, and Kathy, I know Peter has already reached out to you in terms of what's the overlay. I know there's a buildup of
the taxes. There's I think it's 14.45%. Yeah. At the end, you know, at the bottom line. Yeah. Yeah. I I I've always um I'm going to go back and dig through some of my other the background that we had going to town meeting. Um so, we'll
try to represent the board as best we can. That's great. Thank you for doing that. Yeah. Is there is there an RFP for what they're doing? So I understand what their goal is. There's a scope you send that to me. It would be interesting also, Madam Chair, given what Deerra mentioned is
somehow if we could figure out what is what becomes of this project if there were no bids. Oh, who do we who do we talk to about it? I assume it's someone in your department, Kathy, but it might be helpful. Well, no. I mean, it's run through Oh, no. It's Yarmouth Housing Authority. So sorry. I guess we'll have
to wait for that puff of smoke. And when when we were walking out of the meeting, someone asked Drew Krauss, who is the housing authority person, what's going to happen? And he said, I don't know. He said, "We're going to have a meeting this week, but you know, so they must
dear, if you do hear anything, would you please certainly tell us?" only because you know sometimes people ask us I don't know if anybody else has been asked but someone asked me not too long ago and I did say well it's a housing authority project but yet it feels like it's everybody's project because everybody I
mean it's come up at the sewer committee meeting it's come up in a lot of different places. Yeah. So interesting times. Thank you. You might not be too wrong if you say nothing in my lifetime. That's probably a very Now now Jim
Okay. uh meetings, upcoming meetings, June 4th, June 18th, June 25th. So, you'll be here for all of them, right? No, Jim. I won't be here for June 4th. Goodness. And then I won't be here
in July. July and the August. I return August 5th. So, I may or may not be here August 6th. But again, if I have the ability to zoom, I will participate remotely. Let you see puffins and icebergs and stuff like that. That's okay. driving up that. Yeah. Taking our
RV. Nice. Just as a reminder, I won't be able to attend on June 25th. It's the first night of camp, right? I think you had told us that. Okay. Um, any other business? Anyone wants to cover? Okay. May I have a motion to adjurnn? So move.
Second. All in favor? I. Thank you all.