Bety Matt could have waved all that. Is there anything other than the parking you think of? >> Recording in progress. >> Good evening and welcome to the April 15th, 2026 Yarmouth Planning Board meeting. I'm Jorian Crowley, the chair. Public is welcome to attend in person
this evening or via alternative public access provided on the notice of meeting available on the town of Yamoth website. I'd like to conduct roll call. Susan Brida, >> present. >> Deedra Gaquin, >> present. >> Tom Pendleton, >> present. >> Will Rubenstein,
>> Peter Slovac, >> here. >> Ken Smith, >> present. >> Joan Crowley, present. Seeing that we have a quorum present, I'll now call the meeting to order. Please join me in the pledge of allegiance. To the flag of the United States of
America and to the republic for it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all. >> Thank you. The first item on our agenda this evening is uh approval not required ANR
plan 2936D owner Davenport realy trust property location 6 and8 Miracle Wayport Mass Assessor Map 125 parcels 39.1 and 39.2 to R40 zoning district. The ANR
application adjusts the lot line between 6 and 8 Miracle Way to provide adequ adequate rear lot setback for six Miracle Way. Representing the owner Davenport Realy Trust is Mr. Robert Rei
of JM O'Reilly Associates. >> Welcome. >> Good evening. Thank you, chair. Good evening members of the board. Again, Bob Rey, engineer with JM O'Reilly and Associates, as the chair mentioned, representing Davenport Realy Trust. Um, pretty simple ANR plan we're submitting
here. Uh, it's a proposed alteration, as you can see on the plan to the property line between the rear of lot one and the septic panhandle portion of lot two. Uh, just created by a bulkhead that was kind of put in the wrong spot and looking to adjust the property line as opposed to moving the whole bulkhead. Uh we've got
a septic easement in place in order to make sure there's no issue with the force main uh running out of space within that septic panhandle, but uh no issues with frontage, no issues with changing the minimum lot areas or anything like that. U be happy to answer any questions the board members have on this one?
>> Like to go to the planner memo from Kathy. Any comments? >> I have no no concerns. It was just a a snafu and rather than having to move something or get um relief from the zoning board of appeals, it made sense to make this minor change to the lot line. Members of the board, any questions?
It looks like it was just a you needed to to create a pop out for the bulkhead. Uh when the cement went in, it was just a little bit closer than maybe it should have been or something. >> That's right. They just missed it on this one. >> Okay. Um >> won't miss it on any of the other houses.
Uh, may I have a motion then to endorse ANR Plan 2936D prepared by JM O'Reilly and Associates, Inc. dated April 1, 2026. >> So move second.
>> Any further discussion? All in favor? >> Madam Chair, I'm going to recuse myself from this vote. >> Yes, you may. Um, absolutely. So, one recusal. I'm just going to note that Ken recused himself. >> Yeah.
>> Okay. Okay. We're good. Thanks so much. >> Sure. >> Do you need my co my paper copy Kathy signed? >> Okay. >> It's okay. >> You know the tax day. >> Yeah. That's been quite a day. It hasn't
ended yet. I'll be up till midnight. Oh, we go. >> Thanks for coming, Bob. Appreciate it. Uh, next item on our agenda is uh, VCOD site plan review number 2025-1
Bay Ridge Realy Limited Liability Corporation LLC. Applicant owners are Bay Ridge Realy LLC >> um, Dennis Kirkado. Property location is 645, Route 28 and 14 Applebe Road, West
Yarmouth, Cesor Map 32, parcels 136 and 37. Zoning districts VCOD, VC1, R25, B2 Road, RO A, and HMOD1.
The applicant proposes to demolish the former restaurant building and construct a two-story mixeduse building, including 11 apartments and approximately 2400 square ft of commercial space and related site improvements utilizing
zoning bylaw section 414 village center overlays district VCOD VC1. uh representing the applicant um are uh from Baxter Nye Engineering and Survey. If you could introduce yourself, I'd appreciate that.
>> Good evening. My name is John Lavell from Baxter Nai Engineering and uh with me, I believe attending remotely is architect Bob Buon and Dennis Ccado from Beeridge Realy I believe is also attending remotely.
>> Okay. >> Yep. I'm here if you can hear me. >> Yes, we can hear you. Thank you. >> Yes. So, the applicant is proposing to demolish uh the existing building on the site. There's um former restaurant. It's
been vacant for a number of years. Um and he's proposing to redevelop the property with a multi-use building um with 11 multif family apartment units and uh
commercial space in front. Um probably going to be retail and restaurant space. So the the parcel is 0.94 acres currently. Um we know that there's going to be a taking by Mass Highway. They're
going to lose about 3,100 or so square feet of property um in the front there. The prop project was designed uh under existing conditions. So the the front setback is a 15 foot
minimum and 25 foot maximum, but we have the front setback about 26 feet. And we're going to need um special permit or variance from the the board of appeals in order to locate the building where it is. But it makes sense
because of the taking that's coming and they're going to put a sidewalk in front there. So we wanted the building a little bit further back. Um the parking is going uh in the rear side of the site. Um the curb cut on
Route 28 is proposed to be closed with a new curb cut proposed off Applebee Road. Um there there will be screening landscaping. Um a lot of trees and shrubs are proposed to go in. There's an
existing gas service uh that exists there off Applebe road that we're going to try to use that. We're going to put it in a new water service off Applebee Road. Um fire service as well off Applebe and a new sewer connection off
Applebee Road. Um as you know, sewer just went by that site just recently. Um and Digit Construction actually is using this site as a staging area for some of their materials and equipment for the the sewers. Um so with the proposed
redevelopment um we we're going to have a decrease in imperous area. Um and we also have required tree canopy. The required screening per zoning um has been laid out in the plan.
Um, there was a portion of the front area that was previously thought to be a patio. Um, but that's going to be a landscaped area. We will need to update our landscaping plan to put some plantings
in the the corner area of the retaining wall right adjacent to the patio. >> Kathy, can you just point out where the patio might be seen but >> okay >> we need to add some plantings there which we will take care of prior to
building permit application >> they're going to eliminate the patio was that eliminate the patio >> no just screaming >> it was just >> you can't no one can hear you have to talk >> there was a portion that rectangular
area right there was thought to be a patio area um based on the architectural plan, but that is not patio. That's going to be a landscaped area and we're going to provide plantings in there. >> Yeah, it's just if it was patio, it was going to be in this in the front yard
set back to Applebee. So, you just need to be clear that it's not part of the patio. So, they could just put some plants in there. Um, so utilities will include underground electric uh with a new transformer located out by Apple V Road,
underground gas, underground water, sewer. Um, and there will be three light poles placed on the site. Um, and storm water. Um, this site lies in a flood zone. Um, but
all the storm water is going to drain to the south. uh to a settlement for bay where the storm water will be treated for water quality and then it will run into underground uh cult infiltration chambers >> uh on the parking partly under the
parking lot. Um but you know you there'll be a there's zero offsite flow under the proposed condition. Um, so we're, you know, handling all the storm water generated by the pavement and the sidewalks. Um,
there will be two handicapped accessible parking spaces. So, um, handicapped persons can go to either on sidewalks to either side to the west of the building or the or the east side. Uh, there'll be a dumpster that will be
screened with shrubs as well as fencing um, kind of toward the rear of the parking lot. And we this project went before the design review committee and we've incorporated their comments into the new plans. We
also went to site plan review and have modified the plans to include their comments. So we're sitting before you looking for your approval for this uh village center overlay district one project.
>> Thank you. Can Bob go over the architecture? >> Uh, yes. Bob Bob is here. He's going to go over the materials. >> Yep, absolutely. U, thank you for having me. Um, have been stated before already. What we're looking at is a mixeduse uh,
commercial building with 11 total residential units, 10 onebedroom, one two-bedroom unit. Um, the one-bedroom units are 750 ft. The single two-bedroom unit is about 1,250 ft. We have four of the units uh that are
going to be affordable units. Uh the retail space will be front-facing onto Route 28. And both of those spaces are approximately about 1,000 square feet of leasable space. Um the building is going to be about 32 and a half ft from the
first floor elevation up to the highest ridge. Uh material-wise, uh it's going to basically end up having a traditional traditional New England appearance. Uh cedar shakes, uh will be a Cape Cod gray color as you can see there. Uh the
clapboards are going to be uh painted Sherwin Williams peppercorn color. Yep. Uh that was some uh question I guess that arose from uh comments yesterday that we had resolved from Dennis there. So we have that peppercorn color. The
roof shingles are going to be certaintied landmark weathered wood. Yep. And the trim on the outside will be a white PVC. Uh the exterior doors and windows are also going to be white uh with white frames and grills. The balconies that they're that are
shown on the plans will have a white composite post and railings with an aluminum metal cable rail. Uh decking on there will be a composite light gray color. any stone or accents or retaining walls on the site will use a traditional
New England field stone with varying tones of grays uh gold and earthy colors. Um there's railings that are proposed above those retaining walls in some areas just due to the height of them. So on those we'll also have a just
a white composite railing element uh to provide the required height for those. Uh, age gutters and downspokes will be a white aluminum. And then lastly, signs that'll be on the building will be a white PVC with black lettering.
And I think that covers everything that I had on my end of things as far as architecturally to cover. Um, the light fixtures. You want to talk about the light fixtures at all or >> that would be great. >> Uh, I really don't know. I'm sorry. I don't know too much about the light fixtures that they were selected by
Dennis himself. So, um, again, they're just very traditional New England light fixtures. Yeah. The lantern look like that. Black matte finish. Uh, yep. Wall washing lights that would, um, sort of light any signage and stuff like that that would be placed on the building.
Um, and also just to light the entrances of the building. And then we also have some pole lights, the three pole lights on the building. Yeah, there you go. As well. So those would be on the parking lot.
There's one towards the east side, the west side, and then the south side of the parking. Yeah, those are the three play fixtures that are on the uh the property. >> These be single. These would be single.
This is just a double shown, >> right? Yeah. Three single head light poles are required. Yep. Any questions from the board or Kathy, you want to run through any questions you might have? Are you a planner memo? >> No, I think they've covered everything
that I had uh of concern. Um there's a couple things with the site plan review that I did mention and um the phototric plan is a little bit off. It just needs to be redone. It's not a big deal. I'm sure they can accommodate it to make sure that they're meeting the uh required foot candles at the property
line. Uh and I just highlighted that the um maximum height is um 15 feet. So for that um shepherd's hook, it's from the bottom of the light fixture to the finished grade is the can't be more than 15 feet. Um >> yes, by ask Kathy if you don't mind if I
actually I've sent that information along to the person that did the photoometric and I'm waiting to hear back from them. So hopefully we can have that taken care of pretty soon. Yeah, just just before you submit it to the um to the ZBA application just so that the building commissioner knows that you're meeting that or if you're not, you might
would need to seek relief for that. I'm sure you'll be able to meet it. Um heights, the weird thing in the VCOD is the heights of the plants at planting are actually specified. So, it's good to not just have the the caliber, but actually the minimum height at planting uh on the planting plan. Uh we talked
about the patio. It was just a clarification thing of making sure that that was not going to end up scooching into patio in the future, but if they're going to plant it, that sounds awesome. Um, storm water, um, the engineering department's going to sign off on that as part of your building permit process, but it sounds like you've done what you
need to do. The only comment I had was that there was no long-term storm water operation maintenance plan. Uh, that needs to be incorporated so that um, we're showing that that's all the utilities are being properly maintained. I did reach out to the fire department and they're happy with the access that's provided and as shown. Um so just taking
these things into consideration, not expecting them to answer everything by by this meeting. I do have some planner um suggestion with regard to um approval of it with regard to some a couple conditions. Uh obviously one of them is what they're going to do anyway, but they want the two parcels shall be
legally combined. Um providing four affordable units in compliance with the zoning bylaw 412. Um and the grant agreement between the affordable housing trust and Bay Ridge realy they're only required to provide two affordable units but um through through that grant agreement with getting some funding I
think it's $450,000 they agreed to two additional so this project will have four affordable units um and there those were identified the ones were identified on the um the floor plans and then just provide a long-term stormwater operation maintenance plan um to the engineering
department and then implement it by whoever you identify as your responsible party you're going to do all these things anyway. I just didn't see it in the application. Um, and then noting the plant legend, putting in the minimum height, and then dealing with the phototric plan and having that submitted prior to um, the zoning board of of
appeals and just emphasizing that we don't give any relief here um, for site plan review. Um, all relief is sought through the zoning board of appeals. So, I think they've done an excellent job. They've been very receptive to comments and making changes. Uh, I think it's going to be a great project. Any
any questions or comments from the board? Uh Tom, we'll start with you. No, >> I think it's a wonderful project. Um you've answered the questions. I had questions about lighting. Um I do have a little It's a 20 seat restaurant. Is that what is that what's planned? >> Yes.
>> Is that more of just a cafe or is that just a a small >> They're not sure exactly, but I mean 20 seats is is not that large. It's could be a coffee shop. >> Okay. >> Could be a pizza shop, you know. small type restaurant. >> No, I'm fine. It looks great. Thank you.
>> You sure? >> I think it looks great also and I had some interest in the size of the restaurant and the number of parking spaces and it all it all looks just great. Yeah. So, >> Susan M. >> Just just make sure I irrigation system
in the entire site. Correct. >> Yes. >> Okay. Um the signage even though a sign for the restaurant is going to be a white sign with black lettering on the side of the building. Nothing freestanding. Um I'm not sure about the sign. I mean we
are showing a sign a a a monument sign um in the in the front of the building, >> right? >> Um but uh you know obviously it would have to go back before the the town whatever sign they want to put out there. But um we are showing a monument sign in in front.
>> In addition to that picture, there'd be another sign. Is that what you're saying? >> Yes. >> Okay. >> It would be freestanding and building, >> but it would still be white with black lettering. You're not going to put up a backlick sign or anything, are you? >> Okay, good. I want that on the record. Um it I read somewhere it's going to be elevated. The foundation is going to be
elevated. Is that going to be how is that going to be camouflaged? >> Um well, through grading partly. I mean they'll they'll have a you know a bit of exposed concrete but the grade is up around the building >> but you're not going to have stilts or anything. No. Okay. So but whatever is
elevated will be somehow camouflaged with plantings or grading itself. >> Right. Okay. >> You know it'll be be a slab on grade you know with the floor raised to above the flood elevation >> minimum level. >> Okay. And then the the picture that north picture you these the stone wall
that's veneer correct. That's gonna be stone veneer. >> Correct. Okay. We have pictures of that if you'd like to see it. >> No, I love the idea. I think it was going to look great. Um, and then >> that's it. That's all I wanted to know. >> Mr. Slovak. >> No, we we saw it at design review. We
liked it through this. >> Yeah, we like it now. It's uh it's so much better than than what's there. It's going to take care of one of our biggest eyes 28. So, >> stop calling it the Chinese restaurant. >> That's right. >> Right. So, so it's >> until it's built. Thank you.
>> Uh I I I just have one question on on the parking. Is there going to be any opportunity? I know the lot is separated from the building, but for EV chargers. >> Um >> maybe
>> they could add those probably in front of the building to keep the electrical run shorter. Um but there isn't a requirement for that. No, there is not yet. So, >> um you know, a couple spaces could be easily converted because they're really
close to the building there. Um and they could add those in the future if they wanted to >> if and it would I'm sure it would be at the at the uh at the kind of the landlord tenant relationship uh would govern that. But given the price of gas
and that EV sales are now going up, um I I think it should be a consideration for any kind of new residential development if possible, >> right? >> And I know it's not required, >> right? But it's easily convertible, I guess, is the answer there,
>> Miss Ba. >> Yeah. If they and I like the idea of EV charges. The only thing is I I I would be hesitant because it looks so lovely now. I don't want to see a whole bunch of EV chargers in front of that building. So the place looks like a parking lot >> right now. It looks lovely. So if they do them and they decide to do them, be sensitive to
>> the look you've got right now on Route 28, which is we're desperate to have something that looks decent. >> Not tampering with that and and if you decide to do them, have them in a location that is >> Yeah. But there there are a couple of spaces that are close to talking about
in the back close not in the front. Close to where the where the bike storage there's no room in front. >> It's just a consideration, Kathy. I do believe the energy the stretch energy code requires it to be EV capable maybe so something to think about whatever
obviously you guys know the code better um but there may be some requirements with regard to that but that's a different set of rules >> otherwise it looks great >> yeah uh and and my final comment is thank you so much this is a wonderful
project for our corridor um as you know the town has just gone through a lengthy process of adopting a local comprehensive plan. And this corridor we spent a lot of time on wanting to find ways to make it more attractive, make it
more livable, make it more um um profitable quite frankly for the developers. And this is an example of a project that does exactly that. Um and it provides housing afford four units of affordable housing. It's it's an
absolutely perfect mix um in my opinion and we're very grateful for you coming forward um you and and uh and the owners and the hard work of the architects and the engineering. We really appreciate it. Thank you. >> Thank you very much. >> Thank you so much.
>> Thank you, >> Kathy. Are these are these 80% AMI units? >> Yes. Yeah. So, with that, um, may I have a motion to approve VCOD
SPR number 2025-1 for 645 Main Street redevelopment at 645 Route 28 and 14 Applebee Road for a mixeduse development with 11W dwelling
units and two commercial spaces. as presented at the planning board meeting this evening and in accordance with plans and materials that you've already submitted subject to the following conditions. One, the two parcels shall be legally combined. So, you'll be back
here for an ANR I I presume. Number two, provide four affordable units in compliance with zoning bylaw 412 and the grant agreement between you and the Yarmouth uh the owner and the Yarmouth Municipal Affordable Housing
Trust and Bay Ridge LLC. Three, a long-term storm water operations and maintenance plan shall be provided to the engineering department and shall be implemented by the identified responsible party. Number
four, plant legend shall note shall denote the minimum height above finish grade required for trees and shrubs at the time of planting per section 414.8.9.6. Number five, as part of the zoning board
of appeals application, please submit a revised photometric plan showing foot candles at the property lines adhering to section 414.8.10. All light sighting and building mounted lighting shall be decorative style and
shall not cause glare. Site lighting shall not exceed 15 feet in height above the finish grade. Number six, any relief required shall be sought through the zoning board of appeals. >> So moved. >> Second.
>> Any further discussion? >> All in favor? >> I >> I >> Thank you for coming. >> So I'm going to write up >> for approving. >> Thank you so much. >> I'm going to write up a little. It's not a form like a decision and I will um I need to get Joanne to sign it and then
we clock it in with the town clerk. There's no appeal period or anything like that. Um and then I'll send that off to you guys. Thank you very much. >> You was easy. 6 o'clock. >> Yeah. >> Got all our business items done. >> It's a nice looking building. >> Thanks, John.
>> It's always easy when the plan was good. >> That's right. >> Exactly. >> They worked Kathy quite a bit right before >> they were very receptive. um very open to to discussions. I always think it helps um when it's a little bit of a team effort. I think the affordable housing trust giving some money towards
it. Um and I think that's why Yarmouth Commons and Yarmouth Gardens the architecture looks really nice in that you kind of have a little bit of skin in the game is kind of a more of a team effort here to to make it all happen. So >> that location is really a good location that has a lot of potential. >> Oh yeah. Right next to the Parker's
River Landing crossing Captain Pack. So you're getting critical mass of people coming east >> right next to the park. It's going to be great. >> Yeah, >> it's a great location. >> It's been the sorry building for too many years. So >> Chinese restaurant. There was always a chron
>> Chinese restaurant. Neither would have existed for, you know, two decades. >> Right. As long as I've been here. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Number three on our agenda this this evening is Madakis utilization committee update. >> Yes. Um we're meeting tomorrow night uh
in in room A at at six o'clock. Um we're going to be looking at the three concept designs that they have worked up. They've um embellished them quite a bit um to kind of identify it's kind of the same thing we talked about the three options that we had talked about at the last meeting. Um so they're starting to look really really good. Um we haven't
had a full draft copy of the final report to look at. Um they're still feverishly working on it. So there may be the need to have another supplemental meeting sometime between the 16th and before we meet with the select board which has been scheduled for May 12th.
Um so they're making a lot of progress. So hopefully um it will go well tomorrow night. Meeting minutes. Uh may I have a motion to approve the April 1st, 2026 minutes? So >> second.
>> Any discussion? All in favor? >> I >> Kathy, any board of appeals or agenda updates from board of board zoning board of appeals? >> I think just what I had sent out to you that they did approve the Taco Bell with some conditions.
>> That'll be interesting to see. >> I would love to see their traffic study. That's all I'll say. I They say that they did one and it's not going to increase any traffic flow. One station I have. >> How How can we send that? I I that's why I said I'd love to read it.
>> My recommendation was for them to have a peer review of the traffic study and they did not take >> that's a terrible intersection as it is right now at that Taco Bell. It's just going to be >> between the Dunkin Donuts across the street and now adding a Taco Bell. >> The benefit is they don't serve
breakfast, right? >> That's huge. If they were serving breakfast, it would be pandirium. U but they do need to work with the engineering with regard to having a um a safe cross >> lighting at the crosswalks right >> that's a bad intersection to be used
>> uh committee updates anything >> library >> sure >> we had uh Susan do you do you want to do this or >> no you can do it um so we had two um public uh three public sessions one last
week at the senior was there. Thank you for coming. >> Susan was there. >> Mr. Whitenower gave a a little um update on the financial situation and how it can be worked out favorably to the town and to the taxpayer. We had an open
house at both South and West and they were all reasonably attended and had some very good, you know, tough questions but good questions and a lot of support. So, >> yeah, we're moving forward. >> Great. It's great. >> Uh we did have a housing community
housing committee meeting two days ago and a lot of the discussion was about the same projects like the one that we just had here came up and the others were the wood road which is moving along the habitat for humanity and um just
updates on 645 and 811 which we've talked about here. Uh the most uh probably the most interesting news is that the housing authority is meeting again this month with to the goal of receiving an engineering study to
discuss the water issues at the forest road location. And um those are the major issues that we talked about. >> Anything here? Uh, Mr. Chair,
>> Madam Chair, uh, yeah, we had a great meeting with RACK uh, last Monday. Um, just to kind of update everyone where we're at. I'll start on Social Drive. The main U has been completed. So, they
have 10 stubs to put in and they'll basically be done with um, everything in the roadway. They have work to do on the pump station down near Pine Grove. And then there's paving work to be done to fix up um Southshore Drive. Their goal
and they feel that they can meet it is to be out and out of the way except for the pump station by May 28th, which is wonderful. >> Um >> got a bunch of beaches down there. >> They got a bunch of beaches down there. Absolutely. So that's all good news on Southshore Drive. 28. Um, let me So,
pump station near the park, the new park, the re the riverview park is um coming along. That's actually going to be a stick built building. So, it's not going to be completed until early 2027. Um, but as far as the road work goes,
they're moving along. They're up to what I'll call Great Island Plaza now and crossing over and going to continue down 28. They feel they can get close to West Yamouth Road before they have to pull off for the summer. They have filed with the state. They need to be off for
Memorial Day weekend, but they filed for an extension to be able to work until school gets out so they can get as far as they can on 28. Um they realize they're going to have to be offered 28 for the summertime. Uh but they're actually working with the town
to have a plan to be working on some of the side roads. For example, running the force main down um I never get the name of that road. Right by Great Island Plaza that runs down Higgins Craw Wind Winsow Grey. Thank you. went run down Winsow Gay to Joshua Baker and then down
what's it our beautus or whatever it is there to run across the bog to con finish up that force man there and have that done because keep in mind in the fall they want to keep going as far as they can from West Jamoth Road heading
towards the town the Bronx line with a goal to be to the Bronx line by the fall of 2027 which is a pretty ambitious goal to get that far. Um, and also keeping in mind that the uh the treatment plant on Buck
Island Road, the plan date for opening is spring, early spring or late winter I should say of 2028 and they're working and they're trying to close that schedule because initially it was supposed to be done by September of 27
and they had pushed it off to early or late winter of of 28 and now they're trying to work back to get back as close as they can to that September. They won't get back to September, but they'd like to see if weather's favorable and everything else to get as close to that
original September date to have that plant online. So, they're a lot of, you know, ladies and gentlemen, working very hard to get this done. So, keep it going. >> Okay. >> Are they going to pave 28 where they've
>> they're gonna they're going to continue to do um spot paving along 28 >> for the summer >> for the summer to make the road hopefully more passable than it is today. Um but it's you know as everyone knows it's not just Yarmouth going to Barnstable going to Dennis it's
everywhere you go is the roads are in pretty sorry shape so there's going to be a lot of work in a very short amount of time for paving >> um Mike as the CPC met today to just review
uh the plan for town meeting for our articles. I did not attend but that was uh the meeting today. We've got uh several articles I think seven articles >> uh for town meeting. So um and we were just going over presentation materials.
U so um uh any other board member updates? Okay. um our next meetings. Kathy, we've got town meeting coming up next, right? >> Can do can I say some stuff on staff? >> Sure, of course. Oh, staff update. Sorry.
>> That's okay. I usually don't have anything, but um >> so busy scrambling meeting, I forget to identify. >> I have some I have some returns to file. I'm in a I'm in I'm in a rush. >> Oh, sorry. Um,
>> just so everyone knows, we we um Joanne and I coordinated on um a few those few slides that are going to be at the um you know time meeting we met today with staff to kind of go over that. So I think that's going to go very smoothly. We're at the end so people are going to be tired. Hopefully it's very quick >> or even there
>> or even there. Yeah. >> Yeah. We'll have three people there. We'll all vote. Um, and then I just wanted to let you know that um, I had talked a little bit while ago of continuing with all of the work and finding some additional funding and hiring a consultant with regard to uh, all of those great recommendations that came out of the mixeduse analysis. So,
I'm working on a memo to the affordable housing trust asking that we can use that $25,000. I think they're going to be meeting next Tuesday to talk about that. And then I also talked to uh Megan Eldridge, director of community development, and she thought that there was also some tourism, revenue preservation, economic development
project money that we could ask for that so we can kind of try and put that all together into a package uh for request for proposals to continue with that work. I'm trying to figure out what we might be doing and what that scope might be. Um and then we'll certainly talk about that as we move forward. But that's not something I've forgotten
about even though we have all these other things that we're working on. that it takes a while to develop the scope, go out, get proposals, review the proposals, and hire a consultant. I just didn't want that to languish for uh for too long. So, I am working on that. >> Okay. Thank you, Kathy.
Uh so, our upcoming meetings uh town meeting uh on April 28th. Uh and then we have our two meetings in May, the 6th and the 20th. Anything on the agenda, Kath, for those? I think I'd like to start, you know, getting into
the weeds of some of the um zoning amendments and start talking about that. Um I'm meeting with um Mary Wagan and Megan tomorrow to talk about some things, but I also had some questions, some follow-up questions. I wanted to coordinate with Mary with regard to how
these attainable housing units would be who would be monitoring these, who would be regulating these and see how it works for affordable housing because I'd hate to see it be that complicated for for the attainable housing. So, I have some questions there. Um, but that's kind of what I was think like to at least start those discussions and get some first
ideas talking. >> What What about amending our ADU or or accessory? Yeah, that department. >> Yeah, the ADUs. I think we probably need to put something in there for the merged lots. Uh, and then short-term rentals.
Um, I have some ideas on that. Um I think that maybe we might want to talk a little bit about whether we want to um look at BCODs with regard to the minimum front yard setback. I know we're trying to bandaid it here.
Um but maybe that actually needs to be changed. I want to I would prefer to do it all holistically, but I certainly don't want somebody building as close as 15 feet right now when we know that they're going to be taking it. Unless you have an 80 foot wide rightway, then be 15 ft. and that's basically from Old
Maine further. So, lots of lots of things to talk about. Um and our our concern, you know, continuing concern with the number of parking spaces association associated with rental units
um or or condominiums um in the VCODS >> um uh you know the it is what it is because it's and they're meeting their requirements but we all have expressed I think some concerns about it not being
enough. So I agree. Anyone else here? >> So, so we had the the studies that were done, the mixeduse studies, and are we waiting to have another you'd mentioned first, Kathy, another study done before
we can actually maybe look at what some of the recommendations were to >> No, I want I want to get into the into some of the the details of it. I'd like to have hire a consultant to help us modify our design standards, right? >> I want to act. That's that's the goal is to have them actually do that. I think
we also want to have a lot of discussions and maybe a consultant can help us with one of the other things that we're talking they were talking about is not not necessarily setting heights in our on our commercial district but setting the maximum number of stories. >> There's certain places where we allow four stories. Do we want to set a
minimum lot size that allows for four stories? There's a lot of questions that came out of that very detailed uh assessment of the VCOD that Horesley Whitten did at that's kind of like the back appended appendix of that report um that I've just been going through. There's there's a lot of information in
there and things to think about. Um I certainly don't want to not have any densities or not have any heights, you know, but we need to we need to balance it a little bit more and not be quite so difficult and specific. Uh and again streamlining that was the other thing streamlining the permitting. What can we
do to to get that less involved? I and I know Mark does as a staff find it difficult to guide people on these because they're so detailed and they're so specific and so many did they meet this? Did they meet too much? We need to simplify all of that. And that's what I would like to have a consultant help us
do. >> Great. Uh but on on the so May 6 then May 20th don't have anything specific in terms of >> I don't have any business items. >> No. Okay. Okay. Great. Um so therefore
may have a moment a motion to adjurnn. >> So moved. >> Second. >> Any discussion? >> All in favor? >> I. All right.