There's something I can do. >> No. >> No. >> Liam, I don't know if you can bring Joyce in, but she's here now. >> Looks like she's in. >> Can you hear us, Joyce? >> She's muted. >> I know you're muted. You got to unmute. There you go.
>> Yes. >> All right. Perfect. You're on the secret cam. So, >> okay. Just hold tight for a minute, Joyce. >> Good evening everybody and welcome to the Yarmmer Select Board meeting of October 21st, 2025. Uh we are going to go into executive session first to
return to public session. I'm going to read uh the motion. The Arma Select Board will consider going into executive session pursuant to Mass General Law Chapter 3A section 21 A3 to discuss to discuss strategy with respect to collective bargaining with the steel
work steel workers highway local 13507-01 and the steel workers sanitation local 13507-09 which if held in open session may have a detrimental effect on the bargaining w
on the bargaining of the public body in if the chair so declares, which I do declare. So, I'd like to take a motion to go into executive session. I'm having a hard time speaking tonight. Um, all those in favor. >> Yes. Thank you.
>> Dorcas McGarin. I >> Argo. I >> I We'll be in executive session. Well, she's not there, I don't think, so she's muted. >> We'll be in executive session. >> Stopped. Okay. There you go.
Good evening everybody and we are back >> in progress. >> We are back uh in public session. Now I'll ask you all to please join me in the pledge of allegiance. >> I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic
for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Thank you. We're going to begin with announcements. Um, anybody on the board have any announcements this evening?
>> I just wanted to remind everyone of the uh fall cleanup day. This is in place of the one that got rained out last spring. um if you show up out in front of town hall at 8:30 or just before just after
um with your own caffeine because you know who can judge everyone takes it differently. Um you'll be given a route and some um some tools to do the cleanup route and you'll also have a protein bar to keep you going. >> And that's November Saturday. >> November 1st. It's a Saturday 8:30
>> the day after Halloween. So don't overdo on Halloween. Liz, do you have any announcements? >> I do not. >> Dorcas, >> I do not. >> Bob, >> we do have in your packet that on Saturday, October 25, the Yamoth
Recreation Department will be conducting its Halloween spooktacular at the Madakis Middle School. Wear your best costume. And at 4 pm they're going to do the um hallway trick-or-treating, face painting, craft games, and have a a
movie at 5:00 pm. So come on out to the Halloween spooktacular on October 25. Excellent. Thank you. All right, we will move into public comment. I see uh on Mr. Garin. Good evening, Mr. Garin. How
are you? Thanks for joining us. >> Yes, >> good evening. Thank you. During the September 9th, 2025 Yarmouth Select Board meeting, Senator Seir advocated for implementing the Aspen, Colorado model of deed restrictions and luxury transfer taxes in order to
increase the Cape's affordable housing supply. A quick internet s search reveals, however, the Aspen, Colorado plan faces many challenges that have prevented it from providing adequate affordable housing for its workforce. As a result, for the following reasons, the Colorado plan is not a good model for
Darmouth to follow. According to a summary of articles by the Aspen Times, Aspenjournalism.org, and Coloradobiz.com, affordable housing demand in Aspen continues to far exceed the housing supply, and workers still drive long distances outside of Aspen and Pitkin
County where Aspen is located to work there. Coloradoobbiz.com reports in a July 28th, 2025 article that 60% of Pipkins County county's workforce reside outside of the county and over 20% drive
over 50 miles away on a daily basis. Furthermore, Aspen imposes deed restrictions on 70% that's 70 over twothirds of the full-time occupied homes within its boundaries which are managed by the Aspen Pittin County
Housing Authority established in 1978 which is one of the largest of its kind in North America. This housing authority manages the sale of most of these deed restricted units and buyers must qualify based on income and other criteria before participating in a lottery for
ownership because Yarmouth plan to mandate deed restrictions and create h a housing authority to manage the sale of 70% or more of the homes in Yarmouth. The Yarmouth planning board has worked long and hard drafting its 10-year plan which its representatives will preview
with this board later tonight. I don't believe the planning board has included deed restrictions, a housing authority, and luxury transfer taxes in its 10-year plan to revitalize Yarmouth and Route 28. A Cape Cot Chamber of Commerce estimates on its website that 37 to 40%
of houses on the Cape are secondary homes. Apparently, 12% of these homes are rented on a short-term basis, according to a recent Ocean 104 radio news report. Therefore, about 25% of the homes on Cape Cod are either not primary houses or not rented during the year.
Presumably, these secondary homeowners vacation in Yarmouth at their second home during the year. Some may plan to retire there and others may be snowbirds, you know, who spend the winter in warmer states. Assuming that Yarmouth's housing numbers are similar to the chamber's Capewide estimates, how
will this board implement mandated deed restrictions as well as a housing authority that will manage the sale of all houses in Yarmouth? Plus, Senator Sears suggested Yarmouth should levy higher property taxes on secondary homeowners. How will Yarmouth equitably impose different property taxes uh for
primary and secondary homeowners? This the luxury transfer tax also makes no sense because Aspen and Yarmouth are extremely different vacation spots and no one can agree on what a luxury tax is. Even Senator Seir told this board he doesn't know. Will each Cape Town have different a different definition. Uh
what will Yarmouth luxury transfer tax be dedicated to? Compare with Yarmouth. Aspen has a year-round economy. While famous for its ski slopes in the winter, Aspen is also a popular tourist attraction in the summer. Thus, Aspen's employers can afford to pay a higher wage to those who work but don't live in
Aspen. According to the Chambers website, the Cape has a seasonal tourist economy of three months, June, July, and August. Seasonal businesses in Yarmouth closed for the winter. Aspen's median single family home price is $13 million. Yarmouths is $65,000.
Clearly, Aspen's and Yarmouth's median home prices are in different universes. Finally, the Cape Cod Times positively reported on October 16th that the Cape's population is projected to decline over 17% in the coming years due to an aging population. If the Cape's population is
declining, why I rush to impose deed restrictions, housing boards, and luxury taxes. Presumably, it will be a buyer market with a glut of houses on the market. In conclusion, the Aspen, Colorado plan doesn't provide a rational solution for Yarmouth when considering
the problems Aspen is facing with its unaffordable housing uh despite implementing its transfer tax, deed restriction policies, and housing board uh since 1978. Uh thank you for the opportunity to speak tonight. >> Thank you, Mr. Garren. Anybody else
would like to address the board in public? >> Yes, ma'am. Please come to the uh podium or here at the table, whichever is more convenient, and identify yourself for the record, please. >> Hi, I'm Marcy Cohen from South Yarmouth, and I'm here um to make an appeal for
volunteers for a wonderful organization called Bay to Sound Neighbors. Um, we are a homegrown nonprofit, all volunteer organization that provides what I call good neighbor kinds of services to
seniors in Yarmouth and Dennis, but our majority, the majority of our members are from Yarmouth. They pay a minimal membership fee and it's on a sliding scale for nine services per month. And our volunteers provide these services.
Uh taking somebody to a doctor's office uh and home again or hanging a light bulb or hooking up a a printer um to a computer, things that don't require a license or certificate, nothing that requires a professional uh training, but
as I said, good neighbor kinds of services. We have an explosion of interest in membership. We have currently about 190 members. We uh have an average of 272
services that we actually deliver per month. And um we have had to stop taking on new members because we don't have enough volunteers. And so right now we're um taking a
waiting list which is growing as I speak. And um just to whoever can hear me um we are looking for volunteers who are willing to give a couple hours a week or four hours a month. It's a very flexible kind of volunteer opportunity.
>> RC, how do they get in touch with you? >> And I just about to give you our website which is bay to sound neighbors. So it's because we're a town that goes from the bay to the sound. So we're baytoound neighbors.org. org and uh more
information is available on that website. You can also volunteer through that website and we would love to have more volunteers. >> Excellent. Thank you. Hopefully um people will hear your plea and >> I hope so. I hope so. >> We have great neighbors here.
>> Thank you. >> Um may Marcy if I may ask. >> So um you you mentioned that there's a small fee for the membership. >> Yeah. Is there is there ever any possibility of um a a fleet of handymen
that you could help that could help? >> Um we have looked into we're actually part of a na of a national movement the village movement and every village is different because we're all every village is grown homegrown um and so
it's based on local needs and and resources. Some villages do offer referral services. We have um for now chosen not to because it adds a level of of complication that we're not prepared right now. Yeah. >> Yep. >> Understood. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. And and another question I guess I would have is I've been talking about something that I picked up in Boston at a conference which is this zero responder concept which the zero responder responds in an emergency
before the first responders and that makes it your neighbors, your community and so on. It >> sounds like your organization >> in some ways um is a model of zero responders. So >> uh we may be yeah an emergency situation.
>> Yeah. But our our our services are such that we need advanced notice so that volunteers will know what is out there to be done. >> Yeah. Sounds like a great network though. >> Yep. It is. It's a great organization. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you.
>> Is there anybody else from the public who'd like to address the board? >> Seeing nobody, I'm going to um I didn't make an announcement, but I would like to make an announcement. and um talk about uh Mr. Thomas George. Um I have this card here and I'm going to read the
prayer of St. Simeon. Lord, now hear thy day, servant, depart in peace according to thy word. For my eyes have seen thy salvation which thou hast prepared before the the face of all the people a light to enlighten the Gentiles and the
glory of thy people Israel. How fa funeral home. This was Tom George's uh card. He was our um town moderator for a uh number of decades
and he also served as the um state representative for our district for eight years. Um somebody who I called my friend. I have far too many of these cards um lately. Um but Tom
uh guided our community for many many years and as I said to his wife Alice um his sacrifice and service uh to our community over decades was um really a family sacrifice because um they dedicate so much of their time and uh my
sister had graduated with his son Tom Jr. who died at the early age of 44 from >> ALS. And Tom is now reunited with his son. And um I would just like to have a moment of silence for uh his many decades of of service to our community.
If you would uh join me for a moment, >> thank you very much. Um >> let me just say before I leave, he was a member of Beta Neighbors. I'm sure there's that, you know, that doesn't surprise me. >> Um, he he really was a great man who
dedicated his life and service. So, I don't know if anybody else in the board has anything to say. >> I just say that I still miss Tom's wit at um our town meetings. There was nobody like he'd always get right to the point and at the hottest point he could
always get a little laugh out of everyone. >> Good for me. He was a wonderful guy. He will be missed. >> Anybody else? Okay. Seeing that, uh we will move to our 6:15 agenda item and it is a public hearing for a weekday and
Sunday entertainment license for Stone 11 Pizza DBA Cape Flats Pizza. Scott Lopes manager. And while you're sitting there, Scott, I am going to read the public hearing notice into the record so we can open it.
The Yarmouth Select Board acting as the local licensing authority has received an application from Stone Love and Pizza DBA Cape Flats Pizza located at 559 Route 6A Yarmouthport, Massachusetts 02675 by Scott Lopes manager. Cape Flats Pizza
proposes to offer indoor entertainment Monday through Sunday from 700 p.m. to 10 p.m. and Sunday from 700 p.m. to 10 p.m. to include live acoust acoustical music with up to two musicians as well as occasional performances for the
enjoyment of the patrons during regular business hours. These performances may include, but are not limited to, trivia nights or other casual family-friendly entertainment suitable for a restaurant setting. Use of a small amplification system at low level is also requested.
The hearing will be held in person on Tuesday, October 21st at Yarma Town Hall, 11:46 through 28. The select board meeting will begin at 6 p.m. Written comments will be accepted until 4:30 Friday, October 17th in the select board's office at town hall or could be submitted electronically to public
comment at yarmit.mma. us. Amy, has there been any correspondence on this application? >> Um, nothing written. No. >> Okay. All right. With that, I will open the public hearing and um you can introduce yourself and talk about what it is that you'd like to do.
>> Hi, I am Scott Lopes. I am the owner of Cape Flats Pizza. Uh changed the name from Yarmouth uh Pizza by Evan back in February and uh just doing a lot of new things over there, renovations and everything. It's just completely
different. So, um, wanted to bring in some acoustic guitars in the wintertime for people in the town that are looking to get out, you know, couple hours a night. And, uh, probably going to do it just two nights a week, you know, either like a Wednesday or Thursday night just
to, uh, kind of add to our, you know, array of what we want to do there. Yeah, it's pretty much it. >> Okay. So, for the for people at home, what he's requested is a two-piece live bandwidth amplification system inside. >> Yep.
>> Um, just so people know, and a PA system, lowlevel as it said in the advertisement. Uh, Amy, you want to get a certificate of insurance here. All of the paperwork for the application
is in place. You've received the notifications to a Butters. I have. Okay. And the green cards. Perfect. All right. With that, um, if the board's okay, we'll go to the public first if that's all right. >> I have a question, but I I can wait if
you pose a quick question. Um, you are serving outside now as well. Do you I notice you have tables and chairs outside? >> So, yeah, that was uh in the summertime. That was uh Jim, the old one that brought that in with CO on the outside deck. >> Okay.
>> Yeah. And I believe you were here recently asking for your liquor license. >> Did you get it? >> I did. Yeah. >> So, yeah. You now also will be serving alcohol with the music and >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We basically have a beer and wine bar. >> Yeah. >> We don't have full alcohol. I mean, we
have a full alcohol license, but we don't do cocktails or anything. It's just the ready tomade drinks and >> and uh beer and wine. >> Thank you. >> Kind of t We're too We're small. >> Okay. I'm going to go to the public. Is there anybody from the public who'd like to speak? Yes, ma'am. Please go to the
microphone if you don't mind so people at home can hear you and introduce yourself. >> I'm Dina Dexter and I live at 16 right behind you. 16ear road. Love the pizza. All right. Yes, >> I do. >> I was hoping he was going to bring me a scallop and bake. >> I was wondering. Yeah. I just happen to
have just a couple concerns that I'm hoping ma'am. You're going to but you're going to address your concerns to the board and we'll give him a chance to respond. >> Just a couple concerns. We've been really good neighbors to each other and I want to mention that I really want that to continue. My concerns, not in
any particular order, are parking, >> y >> noise, crowds. I think there's more crowds with music and um the dumpster. I just I really haven't seen it with you, but when it overflows, it's >> I don't think that's related to I mean,
we need to stick to the what what >> Okay. I was just going to say just because if there's more crowds, there's more trash. Gotcha. >> So, I was worried about that. And I'm actually um my thoughts are when I read that it was seven days a week that maybe we could do it Thursday, Friday, and
Saturday cuz as you can see, I'm still working. So, if there's any kind of noise level, I don't mind it open till 10:00, but maybe Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday, have it close back at 9 or just have trivia end at 9:00, things
like that. And um my husband for a long time was acoust acoustic guitar player for many years for happy hour and everything. Probably would ask to play there, but um just hoping to keep it not every day of the week.
>> So we're not No, I'm I don't plan on doing it. I'm thinking at the most like two days a week. Um and I put up to two acoustic guitar players. Um it'll be one to two at low levels. you I guarantee won't even hear it outside the house.
>> Well, that's well that's what I was going to say. Just just so you know, he's asking for in in inside entertainment. He's not asking for outside, which means that >> he's going to have to be very very careful to make sure that the noise is contained within the building. >> Okay. So, I don't know how you're going
to handle that's another issue we'll have to talk about, but handling every time the door opens and closes, making sure that it's not um intrusive or obstructive to >> Yeah, without a doubt. So I I'm a musician myself. I I did this for years. Um the type of entertainment that I want
to bring in, the type of music I want to bring in. Um it is a very low level. Like if you were to open the door, there is just no way the neighbor I we we have a kind of low ceilings and stuff. So I don't want to even be so loud where people are sitting there and are
uncomfortable. It's supposed to be at a comfortable level where people can still converse and stuff. So, I I totally appreciate your concern. Regarding the traffic, um I'm not going to do it in the summertime. I don't need to do it in the summertime. Um it's mainly to bring in extra business on kind of off nights
in the winter time. >> Um and it'll probably be done by 9:00 because my demographic likes to go go to bed early for sure. >> But yeah, no, I I we it's not going to be that loud. Um, again, my concern
would be the people in the store where they can come in, get a drink, and be able to talk and listen to the music and not get drowned out by it. Um, although I do like to go out and see bands and stuff where I I can't stand going out and not being able to talk to somebody. >> So, you I and if you ever do hear it,
just come on over. The windows will be up again. It's the winter time, right? >> Um, but I won't be doing in the summertime. and and and and again the parking um is a blessing because we've gotten busier. Uh I don't want to do that in the summertime to add to the
parking so that won't be an issue. >> Well, thank you for addressing my concerns. I look forward to listening. >> Yeah. Come over. >> Well, I will I appreciate your concerns, too. Thank you very much. And just so you know, we do take these licenses very serious. So, um, you know, if there are any issues, we can, um, I'm not sure how
the board feels about it, but in any in any event, um, you know, we ask that you do do work with them. And having a license is a privilege. So, if there are complaints, we bring we have to bring them back and and make sure we address your concerns. So, hopefully we can make it. So, it sounds to me like you have a
business owner here who's willing to >> uh, listen. And the thing is is, you know, we want him to be successful, but we want our residents to live in peace. So we we work together. Yes. >> Yeah. I just was nervous over the seven days a week. I was like, whoa, whoa. >> Well, I think I had to put that just to
designate if I whatever, you know, I won't be playing seven nights a week. >> Okay. Thank you guys. Thank you. [Music] >> Your turn, Jackie. >> I knew I was like, how's Jackie here? How are you? >> I'm the person on the other side.
>> Okay. Uh my name is Jackie Rivero and I own the property that's at the corner of Weir Road and 6A and they've been there since 1959 and I too am a former
musician that played in clubs and stuff like that. So I think it's a great idea, but I am concerned about the traffic. One of my big concerns, this is ongoing anyway, is um I have a driveway on the wear roadside and how do you keep people from going down the driveway? I had
three very frightened tourists at night this summer because their GPS had said take a left off of where road and I deliberately don't maintain my driveway so it's really creepy and weird. It's like it's like driving into a Stephen
King film. I just don't want people >> and then they demand pizza. >> Yeah. >> I have the, you know, but um I just what my concern is the traffic and keeping people from, you know, >> I know there's not much you can do if people decide to sit in their car and eat pizza and throw their trash on my
property, but >> Yeah. Well, call me. I'll come pick it up. I that disturbs me, too. I mean, that's just part of being, you know, good community in general. So, we try our best to pick up the grounds and stuff. Um but yeah, if there's any issue like that, give me a call. I don't know if we can post anything. And I mean, you
don't want anything in your driveway, but I didn't know that happened. I I apologize. >> Well, I don't know that the tourists were at your place and ended up in my driveway. It's just an ongoing issue with my driveway. Yeah. >> So, uh that was my concern is mostly the traffic and the seven nights a week. I
probably won't hear it anyway because I'm part of that demographic that hits the hey by seven. So, >> yeah. I mean, I'll definitely work with you on the traffic, especially in the summertime. the winter time when we're doing this, I don't believe it's going to be an issue at all. I don't think we're going to be, you know, turning to
the Oliver's Plank Tavern where we get that packed. I don't think it's going to be like that. Um the summertime, it's always an issue with the parking. That's an ongoing thing. Like you said, it's my first summer where there was a lot of parking. So, we're trying to figure that out as well. >> Yeah. >> The ice cream is great, by the way.
>> Oh, yeah. They're killer. Yeah. >> Thank you, Jackie. I I hope you continue to work together if you see any concerns. Is there anybody else from the public that has any comments on this application? >> Seeing none, I'll take a motion from the
board to close the public part of the hearing. >> So moved. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I. >> Any opposed? Okay. Anybody have any comments or questions? Liz? >> No. >> Joyce, >> it seems like they they work things out well with their neighbors. >> Yeah, I'm going to stay in constant contact with them. Um, to me it's all
more about the I know we won't ever hear any of the noise. I I guarantee that it's always about the parking, but I'm more concerned about the summertime than what I'm going to be doing with the entertainment. So, >> I didn't realize it was just winter. I didn't realize you had to write the whole thing out. >> Yeah. I mean, it is. Yeah, we're we're
doing it for year round, but my business model is just basically for the winter. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Doris, do you have >> no questions? >> Okay. Um, I'll accept a motion. Uh, motion to approve the license as presented. >> Second.
>> Any discussion on the motion. All those in favor? >> I >> post. Good luck. >> Thank you. >> All right. >> Hopefully we have happy neighbors. >> Yes. >> I love the pizza. >> Me, too. >> Great. I'll be in touch tomorrow.
>> Okay. So our next application is for Daget Liquors. If the people from Dagets, I don't think I don't know if anybody's here, but if they are, they can come forward. Um, and we'll have a discussion about that. But the Yarm Select Board acting as the local licensing authority has received an
application for a transfer of license from 1078 Yarmouth, Inc. to Dagots Liquors, Naven Patel, manager located at 1078 Route 28, Yarmouth, Mass. The new license will be uh Kapi Sharawa. Did I
say that correctly? >> Sounds good. >> Okay. What? I'm sorry, Amy. >> Happy. >> Capara. Okay. Thank you. DBA Dagots Liquors and manager will be Rashik Patel. Hearing to be held on Tuesday, October 21st in the hearing room at Town
Hall 11:46 Route 28 South Yarmouth. The select board meeting begins at 6 p.m. Written comments will be accepted until 4:30 p.m. on Friday, October 17th in the select board office at town hall or can be submitted electronically to public
comment at yarmit.mma. us. Verbal comments will be accepted at the hearing. Uh were there any um electronic or comments on this application? >> Um there were not on the application. We did get a letter from the attorney
representing the Capeshwara Corporation asking that this item be continued. >> So I have to open the hearing first which we just did and uh this letter just for the board's no uh
knowledge just came in today. I guess I can if you want I can let you explain it. Um there's a little bit of a question behind behind it and without going into any further things we we need
to get some clarification on on on some things with the attorneys before I feel comfortable moving forward on this. So we're going to ask that um this hearing be continued to December 2nd. >> So moved. >> Second. Is there anybody here from
No, I just want to make sure that they're amendable to that date before we set it. But for now, we will move it. If we have to open it again and move it, we can, but it's been advertised. So, okay. So, there's a motion to move it to December 2nd. Is there a second?
>> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I. >> And we will leave the public hearing open and continue that to December 2nd. hopefully that that's a date that works for them. >> Thank you for all your work on that.
There's a lot of technicalities that go into this and uh I know Amy's been working um very hard. There's been a lot of paperwork back and forth and um a few questions that have arisen. So, we need to get those clarified before we want to go forward.
>> Thank you. I I have to thank the um the staff too, my fellow staff members um my co-workers with the town and the treasurer's office as well as building to um get all this straightened out. So,
it'll be hopefully not in good order and not too long before we can come to a resolution and all can be um satisfied. >> Great. Thank you, Amy. All right. Our next agenda item is
the Yarmama Substance Abuse Committee. We're going to discuss some of the opioid funds. How are you? >> Good. How are you? >> Good. Is it just you tonight? >> Um, no. I think Danny's on Zoom. >> Oh, yes. Mr. Rodriguez, I see him there. We can bring him in. >> Yes. >> Perfect. >> Hey, good evening everybody. >> Evening. How are you?
>> Well, yourselves. >> I'm very well. Thank you very much for asking. All right. >> All right. So, thank you for having both of us here tonight. Introduce yourself for the record, please. >> Sure. I'm Annie Catalano and I serve as one of the co-chairs for the Yarmouth Substance Awareness Committee or
Weissac. >> And good evening. I'm Daniel Rodrig. I am also one of the co-chairs for YSAC. >> And for the people at home, Weiss stands for Yarma Substance Awareness Committee. >> Thank you so much. Yeah. So, we have a little PowerPoint here we're going to go
through. Um, and Danny's going to start us off. >> All right. Well, again, good evening. It's such a privilege to be here with you all tonight. Um just really excited to share alongside Annie some of the amazing work that's happening with our Yarmouth Substance Awareness Committee. Um as you have shared, you know, our
goal is really to be in um very robust and active group of volunteers who are looking to support and better understand the recovery based needs of our community. Um so this has been an ongoing uh committee uh that has been
formed with many different partners. Um so we are just excited to continue that work moving forward. Um so our first slide is just a little bit about our background. So the arm substant committee is again representative um of uh individuals who are either working in
the field are impacted by um substance use disorder or have interest in better understanding um how to uh provide prevention uh uh interventions, treatment or recovery supports. Um we are charged by the town of Yarmouth uh
to be uh as a committee a server of awareness, education and programming uh to again reduce the uh misuse of substances by our residents and to create a recovery community. And everything that we do is based around
evidence-based practice um and ensuring that we're trying to do our best to bring uh those practices within the borders of Yarmouth. The committee is a partnership with in partnership with other uh Cape community towns. We work really closely with some of our
neighboring communities and are also active participants in the Barnstable um substance awareness committee or RSAC as part of the work that we do as well. Um the next slide is just a little um uh illustration of the members that we
have. Uh we do have a 12 member steering committee with some secondary individuals for voting purposes and representation. This does not encompass the full group of members who come to the meetings. Uh but we wanted to make sure that all aspects of the recovery
field were covered in some capacity. Um so that stretches from having representation from first responders, treatment providers, um folks who are doing harm reduction work in the community, um adolescent providers. Uh
we have over the past few years had a really strong student representative uh who actually graduated uh this year and we're looking for a new representative, but making sure that we have the voice of our youth in this committee as well. Um and then looking at uh parents of
folks who have um experienced substance use disorder, folks themselves with lived experience um and then just general membership for voting purposes. I will say that many of the folks who are a part of the um Weissac do have
lived expertise. Um either they themselves have experienced a substance use disorder and are in their own form of recovery um or uh we do have uh many individuals who have family members, loved ones, individuals in their lives who have been impacted and they
themselves have been impacted by substance use. So one of the things that we try to do uh very heavily is to engage the community. Um Weissac has been a uh has been very active in not just recoverybased
um uh settings. So you know your traditional um uh resource fairs or locations where the content is focused on recovery and substance use. We love attending those. But what we also like to do is to attend
non-traditional community events where we are able to be present with our volunteers to talk about a the work that we do. Um but also being a resource broker for our community partners around u creating conversation and better
understanding of what services are currently um uh engageable in our community. So you know if someone's looking for support groups where can they go? um if someone discloses that they themselves are looking for treatment providers, how do we refer you to the um appropriate individual or
organization? Um so we want to uh make sure that we're active in a multitude of different arenas. So then that way we can reduce the stigma that comes with uh being someone who is either um loving someone with substance use disorder or
is experiencing it themselves. So um with that um I would say that I just want to talk a little bit about the opioid abatement funds. So for folks who aren't a part of this committee or in the field um the I think cleanest way to
summarize this is that pharmaceutical companies, vendors and distributors uh were a part of a a lawsuit where they were being charged with um increasing the opioid epidemic through their
prescribing practices and distribution practices. As part of the settlement, um many of these organizations ended up um again settling with the courts to provide funding for communities across
the United States to help remediate the effects of the opioid use disorder, which it has not gone away. We still know that there's a lot of work to be had there. Um but again the inroad and where we saw a heightened uh amount of
use was uh in many ways uh connected to prescribing practices. So, um, Governor Healey at the time was able to support a $26 billion resolution, uh, $500 million of that coming to Massachusetts, uh, to
be able to get directly into the hands of communities, um, across Massachusetts to be able to, um, again increase engagement and, uh, support for for folks who are affected by substance use disorder. What that looks like um from a
guidance standpoint for our communities is that each community identified their own approach to how they wanted to disseminate or distribute the funds. The only guidance that was provided for Massachusetts because they wanted it to be um as least restrictive as possible
was to ensure that uh the spending was happening in certain pots which included uh opioid use disorder treatment, supporting people in their treatment or on their pathway of recovery, connecting them to care, increasing access to harm reduction resources, which also includes
access to overdose prevention medications such as um Nlloxxone or a better known as Narcan, addressing the needs of criminal justice involved individuals. Um, supporting pregnant and parenting women who are incredibly high risk for overdose post delivery, usually
within the first year. I mean, then prevention work in trying to get upstream of the uh epidemic rather than always being on the back end of treatment once folks have uh fallen into um their active addiction uh to that
substance. So, what does this mean for Yarmouth? Uh, we wanted to pull a little bit of data to help folks understand what the distribution of funds will be within the town of Yarmouth for the upcoming years because this is a multi-year settlement. Um, so as you can
see from the chart, there are a few different um organizations, distributors, and companies who are contributing to the uh pot of opioid remediation. And the right side column shows yearover-year the amount of money
Yarmouth um will receive. Um I did see Bob there um with you folks tonight. We actually a few years back advocated to see as a group if we could increase the amount of funding that Yarmouth was receiving because we felt as though it
wasn't reflective of the data that we had. um and we never really got a great answer on how the algorithm was laid out and why um we received um significantly less money than some of our um similar communities across Massachusetts. But the advocacy has not ended, but we
wanted to be mindful of that. Um but as you can see here, there is a significant amount of money that um it does decrease over time, but our task at hand for Weissac is to make recommendations uh for what to do with those funds. Um, so
with that I will kick it over to Annie to continue the presentation. >> Thank you so much Danny. So essentially what we have done at Weissac is really just try to figure out where the needs are in the community based on people with lived experience, people that have come to our meetings, people we've heard
from in the community and figure out what's going to make the most sense. So essentially we've opened up an application each year that the public can access through the website um the Weissac website through the town website and people can fill those out and send them in to us. Then we have formed a
subcommittee um which is made up of a few members of our group who do not have an affiliation with with anyone who has submitted an application essentially to try to make it more fair. and we review the applications to make sure that they're appropriate spending um anticipated amounts that they're looking
for and what services they're going to provide. And then based on that, the subcommittee makes recommendations and brings them back to the Weissac um steering committee at our monthly meeting where we discuss what was in the applications and the amount of money that we feel like is going to make the
most sense to be allocated based on the amount of money we've received. So, you saw all of those all of those numbers up in the screen a minute ago. Um, and so we don't always know when the money's coming in. We don't always know exactly what the amount is going to be. That's just a pro projection of what is to be um anticipated. And sometimes they come
in smaller amounts. So, we have to kind of track all that stuff. Um, >> that's so helpful. >> Yes. Um, but what I will say is that um, finance has been unbelievably helpful to us. Maria, Jen, Spetana with the contracts, everything. Like, we could not do any of this without all of them.
So, um I thank them so much for what they do because I'm just like, "Can you look and see when we got a deposit? Can you tell us when there's a deposit?" Right? Not their job, but they're so helpful in letting us know that. So, once we um are able to determine the amount that we actually have to allocate and the most appropriate applications,
so far every application has been wonderful that we've received um we vote on it. So, and essentially the board of health will then create contracts for um each of the recipients to review and sign so that we're kind of all on the
same page. Oops. Okay. So, in Oh, I think I went too far. Okay. So, FY24 um we had sort of these five categories. So, the first one was a general again. So, looking at what was proposed, what
people requested, and what was granted. we had a little bit of money left over. So, we've been using that and we still have money in that account as sort of a WeAC marketing fund. So, that looks like a lot of different things, but as you saw in some of the pictures for our tableling supplies. So, we have a tablecloth, we have things like stress
balls and chapsticks and things like that that we can take to those family-friendly events and have stuff to hand out as well as information about what we do and other community partners can give us their information as well. So, we still have some money in there for for those kinds of things. But the first year, the Duffy Health Center had
two programs that they've been funding. The alternative peer group, which is a teen- based program, um giving teens uh social activities and a safe place to be together in an arena where there is no substances. Then the RSN recovery
support navigator program. They do a lot of different things, but um supplying basic needs to those in the community that they're interacting with on a on a daily basis that have those needs. the AIDS support group of Cape Cod. They do a lot of different things but also supply like basic needs, harm reduction
supplies, things like that. And then the Yarmouth comprehensive treatment center is our only methodone clinic on the Cape. And they are specifically using their money for transportation. So any residents of Yarmouth who cannot um do not have transportation, cannot afford
transportation to get their daily methodone um treatment, they can use this funding for those residents to pay for them to get there. So that was the first year. Okay. The second year, excuse me. So very similar. So Yarmouth comprehensive treatment center again using
transportation for their patients. The Duffy Health C Center's two programs, the alternative peer group for teens and the RSN basic support needs, the AIDS support group of Cape Cod. Um we took some of the money from our marketing fund and reallocated it into um two
specific events we held last year which was we created floats in the St. Patrick's Day parade um partnered with Duffy their um incredible mobile unit pulled our float that we created. We had people of all ages on the float and then we handed out um we handed out some
candy but we also handed out some of our um our YSAC marketing materials as well. And then we also did a similar um float in the parade for the Fourth of July in the Chattam Parade. So that was kind of two extra marketing ways we got some information out there last year. And
then the new organization we had um got an application from last year was called Parent Supporting Parents. If you haven't heard of them, great organization who supplies scholarships to um anyone who can afford once they leave treatment. Detox tends to be 5 to
seven days. and if they want to further their treatment and move into a sober house, which is great for their recovery, but they aren't always able to come up with the money that quickly. So, they they give them a small scholarship that pays for like their first two weeks to kind of get them in the door, get them settled, and kind of stabilize
themselves as they're out there looking for a job to be able to continue to pay their rent there. So, that's what they're doing. And then our most recent round of funding, I just put together the contracts for these a couple weeks ago, is again very similar stuff. Dovey Health Center's
alternative peer group and recovery support navigator, again, the basic needs in their teen program. AIDS support group. Um they've also added aid support group continues to do harm reduction and basic needs. They've also added um nylaxone, if I'm saying that right, boxes in public places across the
community. and they're also doing a lot of community education and training as well. And then parents supporting parents again had requested funding. So, um that is sort of an overview of how we've disseminated funds over the last three years and that's it. And uh Annie,
if I just may add, um the spend or the dissemination of funding has been really in line with what we what we have also heard from members within our Weiss community. But the most recent needs assessment that was completed by the county that talked about the largest
barriers to folks accessing um support for their recovery is transportation um housing and also uh a major impact uh related to social determinance of health. So where are they going to get their next meal? where are they going to
um you know be able to find funding to be able to support um you know their apartment or electricity or whatever that may be. Um so I think the focus across the region has been to try to invest money into breaking down those barriers. Um so we are just very excited
to see that the organizations who have applied um are really working to meet those gap areas which were identified in that report. So thank you. >> Thank you Danny. I just want to say too, thank you to to Bob, to everybody here that has been so supportive when this first came out. I don't think anyone
quite knew where we were going or what we were doing or how we were going to do it. And we worked really well together, I believe. And we really were able to take in so many different people's perspectives, ideas, feedback. There were some grand ideas that were like, we'll never have that much money, but let's keep talking about how we can do
that on a smaller scale. and really being able to have we had a community forum for people to really say this is what the needs are and this is where this money should go and we have just had unending support from you. Thank you all of you. Um and like I said before the the health department since Sarah's
taken on her position there, she has been absolutely fantastic getting everything paid so quickly turning things around. She is like so organized on top of it and we could not do this without all of you. So thank you. >> Thank you. >> We really appreciate it. >> Thank you very much. Um
I have several questions be before I go to the board. Um your application is that a rolling or is there a cuto off? >> So we usually have it for a cutoff because the funding is for the fiscal year. So we usually have it um the application is due by the end of the
fiscal year. So June 30th. >> Okay. How many how many applications this year? I noticed that it it shrunk this year to only four. or they get a larger amount. >> Um, but how many applications did you get that weren't funded? >> None.
>> That was it. >> That's interesting. Um, is it only um eligible for nonprofits or do you consider all groups? >> No, we consider everybody. >> Interesting.
Um, I'm curious just I know that uh you talked about the county and the I love the data driven piece. I'm just I know I say this every time you're here. I am a huge proponent
of prevention. Um I think you know I'd be interested in if you have um certain ones that you go you know if you break it down like for some for prevention, some for treatment. looks like they're all in in in the treatment for the most part. Um, personally, I feel like, you
know, years ago when they they invested all their money into the antismoking thing, you know, once once somebody is um has an addiction, it's it's a lifelong thing, right? So, we I believe should focus a lot more on prevention
and education to try to get that to not happen in the first place. And I'd be interested if if your committee has a way of, you know, seeing if you could disperse some. I know I know for years Duffy was
working with the school and I'm a huge supporter that and I see Dr. Smith here that we need a a fullscale program in our education system. It seems like and and it's and this is no disrespect to your work. I mean, the the
money problem is a problem because it's it's short. You don't know if you're going to get it. As you said, it would be nice if we had a funding source, a committed funding source consistent that we could actually do like a a full
holistic education program that reaches an age appropriate uh level consistently. >> Yeah. >> We've not been able to do that, you know. I mean, >> yeah. Sorry, not to my apologies not to cut you off. It actually um out of the
individuals who are currently being funded, uh to your point, uh the work that's happening with the alternative peer group is not just a treatment program, but there has been investment over the past year of uh having all of those staff members
certified to complete a curriculum called I decide, which is more on the prevention side of the house. Um, also to expand a little bit about a little bit more on that, um, I also do have the privilege of sitting as one of the co-chairs for the regional substance
addictions council. So, the ARSAC and, uh, the county itself has actually worked really hard to get BOTV um, life skills training, which is that age appropriate curriculum for being able to really uh, promote the prevention side
of of the wing. um that has not been heavily utilized by school districts. Um so even though the county itself is really pushing to have a consistent curriculum across each of the communities, um that has been met with
some challenges with implementation. Um so that is what is being tackled at a regional level at the same time that we're looking to supplement that work with what we're doing within Yarmouth. Um, actually Annie and I have uh some upcoming conversations with the Yarmouth
schools around uh, you know, rejuvenating their commitments to some of this prevention work. Um and I I can speak for the um alternative peer group and the PASS program which is uh supported through behavioral health innovate in innovators um where we have been pushing really hard to get that
information out to younger ages um and just trying to figure out from a DESIE perspective which is obviously our department of secondary education um how um that aligns with what the schools um locally are willing to do um aka DY um in allowing um outside resources to come
in. So, not a great solid clear answer, but the work is happening. >> I appreciate that very much. I think that that that's a great answer and I and I, you know, I feel like the schools are in a difficult position, too, because there's, you know, they have they have uh criteria that they have to
meet on so many different levels. Um, but you know, we got to educate the whole child and and and they do a great job of it. It's it's I'm sure it's just a matter of timing and fitting it into their schedule, but you know, I feel like we're consistently just it's a peacemail, you know, and nobody and and
I wish I wish Desi as a whole would create a curriculum that was mandated in all educational um programs because I think that that would, you know, solve a lot of the issues. But, um until then, I'm happy to hear that you're working on it. I wasn't I'm not trying to
criticize. just um uh I just feel like we're so many years into this and um like I said, I wish the funding was consistent because it just it's it's very peacemail and I'm I'm I'm a big I
think I think education is is really the way you're going to you're going to do it, but it's going to take it's going to take years before we can, you know, if we don't start at a very young age and educate them all the way up. I love I love that um you're doing the team programs. Um that's something that I
feel is is another wonderful thing having positive events and things where they can go and and be safe. I think anytime you provide opportunities for teenagers that are in such a you know this world that we live in now is uh
everything's instant. You know they have they got to be cool. They got to look cool. So, if we can make cool places for them to be together and that's safe, I think those are wonderful things. But, um, Mark, >> yes. Uh, thank you. Uh, thank you for for coming tonight and, uh, for all the
work that you and everybody else on on your committee is doing. Um, is there anything else that we should be doing? Um, you know, what else can we do in support of your your efforts? >> Oh, that's a nice question. I wasn't expecting that. >> I can't think of an answer other than
what you've already been doing. has been so helpful um to know that you all have are supporting what we're doing. >> Yeah. >> No, I and I I think it's important for you to understand we're genuinely very very interested in in your work. Um and you know, we we've talked quite a bit
about getting you before us with more frequency so that we can keep up to speed with what you're working on and what you're doing. We just genuinely want to be supportive and helpful uh because we know how important this issue is in our community and uh I think coming before our board and talking
about it just creates an awareness >> uh that we need to sustain as well. We need to make sure that everybody in our community is aware of not just this issue but some of the good work that's going on to address it and ways in which we and others in the community can be helpful. So don't be shy about coming
here with a list of things for us or others in the community to do. Okay. >> Yeah. Danny and I are not shy. Danny, did you have anything? >> No, we for sure are not shy. Um, and I do want to echo what Annie did say. Um but I I I think one message um that I I
would kind of share with the group is um from your perspectives being able to support us with um with continuing to kind of beat the drum that Yarmouth is a recovery community. aka we are not shying away from recognizing that our
residents have their own struggles, have their successes, have their stories, have their uh positive outcomes and negative outcomes and that those folks are welcome and are able to be a active member within our community is huge. There are other communities on Cape Cod who are not willing to go that far and
are unwilling to say that there are um issues and community members that need this support um within their own four walls of their borders. So, um this is my very convoluted way of showing gratitude as Annie had said to each of you and also um supporting us in
messaging the fact that we are a recovery community and we will continue to do that for our residents here in Yarmouth. >> Very good. Thank you, >> Dorcis. >> I want to thank you very much for the work that you've been doing. It's a
tragic fact of life for us right now and um the the loss that we have had in our young population is staggering and um I just again as Tracy's talking about whatever we can do for prevention
>> is just so key and as Mark's saying whatever we can do to help you believe me come back anytime. Thank you very much. Thank you. >> Well, thank you for the work and love you put into this, uh, Annie and Daniel,
and I wish you continued success in in what's an important contribution to our community. >> Thank you, Liz. Um, I echo my my mates. Um, the ribbon display that was on the front lawn,
that's part of your effort, is it? Was it? >> Yeah. So, I don't Danny can talk more to it. Duffy Health Center did one on their front lawn and then there was another one for the that the county did on the front lawn of the like superior courthouse on 6A there as well. Is that >> in front of town hall?
>> Um and um so to answer that question a little bit more pointed um Don Ro who is actually one of the members of our Weissac um her son is a gentleman who passed from opioid overdose. um and she has been the a very active voice and
bringing awareness to overdose awareness day and recovery month. Um so that is at the end of the day a um tribute to the work that she's done for our larger community around overdose awareness. So that I will give Don all the props in the world because she is a powerhouse.
Um she is the same person who hosts the annual Smugglers Beach overdose awareness event. Um we're just very lucky to be a part of that journey with her um and to support her along the way. >> It was striking and I had um people
mention it to me about wow look at all those ribbons. So that is a very effective way of bringing it forward. Um because yeah it's if it's not in front of you you know it's just not something we're aware of.
>> Yeah. Also, there is a transition center on 28, I believe. Is that it related? No. >> Cath saying no. >> No. >> Okay. >> That is not. >> All right. But thank you. And um I I do think it's important to to reach out and
I wonder too I I visited the Brazilian Resource Center today >> and I'm that might be another place for this group to coordinate some efforts, some outreach. >> Sure. So, >> absolutely. >> Thank you. And it's important to keep it
the visual is very important. So, yay, Don. >> Absolutely. Yes. >> Yes. She is behind a lot of things. >> She's amazing. She actually goes from town to town and make sure that our our first responders are police and fire. You'll see the purple ribbons on them throughout the Cape. That's her. >> Good. >> She does all that work.
>> Good to know. >> Yep. >> Yeah. She's amazing. >> Well, thank you very much. I appreciate the update and your continued hard work. And at some point in time, um, we haven't had the police department in in a while where we talked about numbers and statistics to see,
>> you know, how we're really doing with it, which is which is the key, right? Hopefully, um, we net some positive results and >> we save lives. That's what it's about. So, I appreciate all the work that you guys do. Thank you for being here. Thank you very much, David. Daniel, sorry,
Daniel. >> Oh, no worries. It's a privilege to be here tonight with you folks. Thank you for the time. >> Thank you very much. Thank you, Annie. Thank you, Danny. >> All right. Next, we have our local comprehensive plan article for discussion. I see Kathy.
>> Good evening. >> Tickle. Go away. It's too hard to drink. I can't get the top off. go everywhere. >> Just step up for a minute. >> Yes, ma'am.
>> Thank you. Thanks, Bob. >> Good evening, Madam Chair and members of the select board. I'm Joan Crowley, chair of the planning board, and I am joined uh by our town planner, Kathy Williams, this evening. Also, planning board member Susan Brida is here as
well. Um she has joined us this evening. Thank you for this opportunity to review the final updated Yarmouth local comprehensive plan prepared for adoption at the 2025 special town meeting in November. >> Wow.
>> How about that? >> That must sound good about all your work. >> We met one of your goals. >> Amazing. There's no doubt. >> Number one goal last year. Um uh and and at our October 15th meeting 2025 uh we voted unanimously to recommend the
LCP uh to be included on the warrant. The planning board would also like to thank the many members of the public um who have participated in in so many meetings with us and have been so informative um including our most recent public hearing on October 1st. their
interest and their participation is really greatly appreciated. In your packets this evening, we have provided a memo from Kathy um providing an update since we last met with you on August 12th. Um we've also included comments from the 30-day public review
period which occurred in August. We've also provided comments received at our public hearing and uh Kathy again has prepared a PowerPoint presentation to summarize uh the some of the changes that have happened so far um and and
incorporated into the final draft. Um the planning board is hopeful uh that you will look favorably upon this article um because we've worked really hard as has the members of the public um to help us make it the best document we
can. So, with that, I'd like to turn it over to Kathy, um, who has a a brief PowerPoint presentation. Um, and then we have another, uh, item on the agenda following this with regard to the zoning article on, uh, boat parking.
>> Good evening. Um, what we're really concentrating on this evening is just the changes that were made since we gave the presentation to you guys on August 12th. So, some of the other than, you know, general clarity and legibility and grammarss and that type of thing, some of the notable changes that have been
incorporated into the October 2025 LCP, we've expanded the table of contents, making it easier to navigate around. We also added a glossery of terms. We included the reference to sustainability in both our vision statement and our growth policy. We did add some additional information into the climate
mitigation and energy section. Some of the information we received from Liz Argo, incorporated that in. And then we also relocated the targeted action items to directly behind uh chapter 3 which is the existing conditions, key issues and needs and recent actions just for easy reference instead of putting it at the
end of the of the um LCP. And then we made modifications to uh eight action items which I'll go over very briefly. So in transportation and connectivity we added a new action that really evaluate the potential of undergrounding uh overhead utilities for roadway improvement projects. looking at that on
a project by project basis um seeing whether that's something that can be readily incorporated into a project for climate mitigation and energy. We did update the fact that we did recently hire a municipal energy manager and incorporated that into the plan as well as updating an action item related to
the energy committee who is working on their new 5-year vision plan with objective strategies and performance standards. And also uh with regard to waste management, we updated that action to reference the new disposable plastic foodware rules and regulations for food establishments that was recently um
developed and approved by the board of health and is been also the proposed recision of the 2023 general bylaw which that new regulation would take the place of. For town services, um we did add a new action item to develop a comprehensive emergency management plan update. I
spoke with the fire chief and he's working on that actively now. We eliminated the old action seven regarding triple redundancy for communications at the police uh station that because the police chief indicated that that work has been completed. Um with regard to economy, this came as a
kind of an 11th hour um letter from the fisherman's >> alliance and it was very very thoughtful letter about the kind of the um economic benefits of commercial fishing in the town of Yarmouth. So we wanted to make sure that we took that into consideration. So we added a new action
item under economy to protect and enhance commercial fishing, shell fishing and aquaculture industries. And then something along the same similar along the same lines, we modified the fresh and saltwater resources u modifi modified the action to maintain and enhance commercial
shellfish and fishery resources in addition to recreational. And then as as Joanne mentioned, uh the planning board voted to adopt to voted to recommend the article to adopt the October 2025 local comprehensive plan at their October 15th planning board
meeting and we'll hope you guys will do the same this evening. Thank you. Great. That was a very nice condensed uh just updates. I'm very happy with all of them. I think you guys have done a great job. Miss Mark, do you you look like
>> Sure. >> You look for some reason you look ready. I'm looking I'm looking at your the the u the this this slide here. Um the paint is it a painting or a print that was on your first slide? >> That's actually a photograph that I got
from the Chamber of Commerce. Really? >> It could have been a painting. It was so gorgeous. >> Beautiful. >> Is that going to be on the document? >> I don't think it's in there now. No, >> I think >> you should. Okay. >> I I think No, it's beautiful. It's stunning. I think Yeah, I think it's a
winner. I think it's a home run. This one. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, that's beautiful. Yeah, that original slide was just Huh. >> Yeah, it's gorgeous. So, that >> sunset on Cape Cod >> right there. Bingo. >> The trash can. >> Yeah, that's that's >> that's me by the way on
the orange boat. >> Yeah, there's Joyce out there, too. I see. Um, no, I think I think I I just want to once again commend you for all the work that you've done on this. Um, at the last meeting I was pretty worked up about the the lack of the financial
information and I realized after talking to Cape Cod Commission staff that I was looking at guidelines that have long since come and gone. Uh, this kind of information is something that they were really encouraging that we put in our plans and I've noticed that uh they have
sort of let let go a little bit on uh getting that kind of information. So, uh, they they they updated me and I'm glad that we're going to work on pulling together something separately in our own capital budgeting process because I think we're at a critical time right now
in the community. Um, and I was kind of hoping that this document could be a way to help educate people on the major challenges facing us as a community as we grow and develop. So my hope is that through the capital budgeting process, through these other processes, uh you
know, we can find a way to educate people on the challenges that we're faced because they're significant and uh we've got a lot of work to do. Um I'm glad you've uh you've taken the the the letter from the Commercial Fisherman's Alliance. I think it's important for us
to never lose sight of um the value that our the importance of our fishing community. And the reality is is that they don't ask us to do much. All right? They don't really ask much of our community. And that's why that's why the
the zoning articles uh are important. That's why making references uh to to to the importance of commercial and fishing, you know, in this document are important. I think we all need to find ways to be very very supportive of the industry. So, I'm glad we we we've taken
a stab at this um you know, in this document. So, I think I think we're ready to go. I think uh we're pretty much done. I think you've done uh I don't think you could ever do more outreach >> Yeah. >> and more public involvement than you've done on this particular project. I think it's uh it's it's all well done. So, uh
I'm I'm I'm pleased with the where things stand and I'm glad we're going to, you know, we we have another way of addressing some of the long-term capital uh budgeting and financing. So once again, thank you, >> Dus.
>> I just want to thank you for your Yman's work. I mean, it's incredible. Uh here we are at the Seaside Festival and there's Kathy putting up the tent and out there and got her cards and her hat and everything. um you've done a
tremendous tremendous amount of work and I think that you can feel very comfortable in knowing that you have presented a plan that has active participation. You've gone to the far reaches of town to make sure that
that happens and uh I thank you very much for that. Joyce, >> thank you for the multi-year community dialogue that brought us to this, you know, aspirationally and let's let's hope we all can live up to your
planning, but it's superb planning. This >> yay um this was why I ran back last year. So to see the vision come forward is really exciting. It's such a a
building block. So, um what's the next process vis visa v the Cape Cod Commission? >> We would need to submit to them for certification which requires another public hearing um with them. But usually by the time you get there, they're all there being your cheerleaders. They're just happy that you've gotten through
and that you've done the community involvement and it's your community's plan. >> So, we vote on it at town meeting and then it happened first. Correct. >> I would um take an opportunity. you met the the energy committee met um last night and they were very everybody's
thrilled that you heard that we thought that that was a not leaned into as much as we'd hoped and boy you just heard us and did it and that's like like with the fisheries so gratifying that that there are ears and that it's not you know hey
this is we did it we're done you kept going and um they did the energy committee was looking for more um of a list of action items that they would then accomplish and I I think that that's something that they're going to
develop on their own. >> Right. >> Great. And you know bring it forward but they everybody's very very supportive and thank you. Thank you. Thank you. >> Excellent. My my only other question is how will your presentation at town
meeting be to take such a um significant document that we've dealt with for so many years that is so complex and be able to you know >> deliver it in a succinct way that people can really understand.
>> It's going to have to be higher level. Yeah. >> It's going to have to talk. you know, I haven't really thought about it significantly, but I feel like we'll probably get 10 minutes to give a presentation on it. So, just talking about what's included in it and what it is and what it isn't. You know, it this
is this is the 10,000 ft view. This is not a detailed assembly instructions uh for our community. Those are where the details come into things like the energy committee will develop some of those more details. And also just emphasizing that anything there's a lot of infrastructure that is included in the
LCP, but voting to adopt the LCP isn't voting to spend a dime, >> right? >> You know, these this is just the road map where we're heading. We'll probably be switching it as we go along. Um but we needed to start somewhere, but yeah, it's going to be interesting. I haven't quite thought it through. >> Great.
>> Well, I thank you for that. Yeah, I I think that the tricky part there will be helping the town meeting members understand that an individual action item isn't something that they they are voting on to do. >> Correct.
I think that especially with regard to the portion that's on on necessarily the two chapters that are very relatively specific housing and the capital town meeting is not voting on on
approving those things to do. We are not authorizing anything and we're not appropriating anything. And that's going to be the tricky part to help the town meeting members understand that there's no appropriations and there's no
authorizations associated with this document really other than the the the fact that it is a really valuable thing that will help us secure funding for a lot of different areas in the future. >> That's really what it's about. It's it's
um it's it's it's a a a thing we have to do that we want to do. Um and it's a it's it's something on your portfolio when you put forward an application for a grant or something else, you are way
ahead of everybody else. if yours is a good one and it's been accepted by everybody and it's current and this is current and we've got a lot of stuff going on in town right now where we we will be applying for grants, you know, next year and the year after and we've
got a living new document here. This isn't a 2017 or 2019 document. So that's that's going to be the tricky part I think in terms of our communication at town meeting. >> I agree and we would welcome your help. Yeah, I just think it's welcome your
help in terms of shaping that that presentation and that conversation >> moving forward. I think it's important that people know that there will be further discussions on each of the points before anything really does go forward. So there will be a point I just I just worry about getting mired down in
the detail of every every point in it. While while people's opinion obviously are very important, we've taken a lot of input and we're never going to make 100% of people happy on every piece, but it's a plan and as you said, there's no um
we're not authorizing any plan. We're not expending any any funds and there will be a process in the future for each of those um to participate in. So um good luck with that. Yeah, I um >> Madam Chair, I think we need to talk
about the communication side. Maybe not tonight, but maybe at a future meeting because you're right, it is important. And I think we have to make an extra effort to direct people to where they can read the plan rather than having to read it to people on the town meeting
floor. >> The more we can get the word out soon, I have this vision of a, you know, the flashing lights sign, read your LCP, right? read our LCP >> stop sign at Woodro. >> Yeah. >> Kind of like that. >> No, but I think what we need to do is we
need to invest some time and energy in educating people before the meeting why we're even doing it, what's in it, and why why the approval is important. I don't think many people are aware that it's a require. It's a it's a legal requirement. Uh it was laid out under the Cape Cod Commission Act and uh you
know, we have a regional policy plan that's going through a review process and we need to explain how the local comprehensive plan fits in. And we're not the only town that's doing it. Every town's doing it. And our plan, quite frankly, looks very similar to a lot of the other plans. There's nothing in here
that's earthshattering. It's helping pull the pieces together of a whole variety of components and aspects of our community to show how many of these things tie together. So, I think the more we can get people to see it and uh get get a chance to get their arms
around it on their own time, whether that's having a PDF version published on our website with a video on social media, >> social something on social media. I think >> blogging, >> this is going to be a real challenge for our communications team to really get
that information out. And uh I'm you know I'm I'm happy to work and help and lend a hand um if that if that's something that that that's that's needed or wanted. I'm I'm happy. >> Well, I think we'll probably lean heavily on our communications director. She's been great on lots of other things
and I'm sure she'll be able to step right up and help us on this one. >> I hope so. Thank you. Um, I would love to see something u following up on Mark's uh mention of communications like the top three reasons why your support of this is is
important now. And um you could put at the bottom PS this isn't costing you any money is like the third thing but that it's it's your emotional support and your belief that's necessary and that this will bring resources into Yarmouth. And I think there must be a way to put
that in three bullet points. >> Thank you, Joyce. >> Liz, um, when was the last LCP? >> The the LCP is in chops and pieces. Some stuff goes back to the 1990 something
and then there's the most recent was in 2015. So, this is one full allon comprehensive concise document. Will we have be charged with make doing another one in the in the future? >> You typically want to be looking at them
every every 10 years. >> Every 10 years. >> Okay. >> We've been doing annual progress reviews to see how we're doing. >> Okay. Just >> Yeah. Sorry. Just logistically, do what happens to the chapters that have been previously approved by doing this? Does that supersede it or do we have to take
action on those previous approvals? >> I would assume this would totally supersede it. >> Yes, it does. The new plan updates everything. >> Okay. >> I know that there have been chapters that have been approved by town meeting. And I think one of the solutions that maybe we talked about for the plastics
is also a challenging public relations communications um issue. And one of the the solutions that was come up with for that was the facts, the FAQs. Mhm. >> So to have a nice fact. Um and and I I have a a sort of an outline question. Is
our opioid awareness effort in this support of the YSAC is in there? >> Absolutely. Fantastic. >> Great. >> On to the zoning articles. >> Okay. >> Again, thank you for this opportunity.
The planning board zoning article related to boat parking. uh prepared for adoption at the 2025 special town meeting in November. Uh in your packet this evening is a memo from Kathy >> uh summarizing the article. At our
October 15th meeting, the planning board, we voted unanimously to recommend the article to be included in the warrant. Again, the planning board would also like to thank the many members of the public who have participated and informed and helped our deliberations uh
with regard to this uh particular zoning article and um those who attended our public meet uh public hearing on September 17th. Uh their interest and participation is greatly appreciated. >> Kathy, I'm not sure if you want to run
through the summary not. Yeah, we did um as Joanne mentioned have a very good robust discussion at the U planning board meeting taking into consideration the comments that we did receive from from the select board. I think ultimately taking a lot of different things into consideration they decided
to keep in the seasonality clause. So what you see in the warrant is what was recommended by by the planning board. >> Does anybody have any questions on on the article or any changes to the article? No, I'm just I'm I'm I I was a proponent for the keeping the
seasonality. So, I continue to feel that way. >> I figure with climate change, all seasons are going to be increasingly similar. >> Yeah. And I and with respect to the seasonality, yeah, I my my view hasn't changed on it. I think it's going to be a problem. It's going to be a problem
from an enforcement point of view as the building inspector has said. I also think uh we can't lose sight of the cost that it'll incur with some people. It's it's almost like an added financial burden. There are not many people that can can afford the kind of boat storage requirement that that that literally
will create a financial burden for people. So I think from from my point of view while I don't agree with the language as written I will be supportive of the compro you know you folks have shaped the compromise. Um, I I will vote in favor of recommending the article.
Um, I would be happy to support an amendment to the article that strikes that language, but um, nonetheless, I think you've done a great job in paying a lot of attention to both the lobster issue and and the boat storage issue. I think both of them really relate to who
we are as a community. We're a boating community. We're a fishing community. There are a lot of people that love to work and uh recreate on our ocean and uh you know I'm I'm someone who wants to make as many accommodations as as possible. So I get all that. So we'll
give again as as the chair has said before that it's important for us to give the people the opportunity to vote on it at town meeting. So I appreciate all the time and energy that the planning board has spent on this. you've taken a lot of time away from other pressing and important matters to focus
on on these two items. So, thank you for for doing that. >> Thank you so much. Yes, I agree. I I I may not agree with that article particularly, but I agree with um having watched your process, having watched you
take in and take so much time to try to accommodate so many people and come up with a balance, which is really what you've done. And obviously you really have just which we need more in government, right? We need more people to just come together and find the the happy ground. And I I think that that's what you tried
to do here. Um I'm not sure it's going to resolve any of the issues. I mean, people have to pay for boat storage now, but um I I will say the planning board is is um in parallel with all of you that this this is an item that should be
in front of the of the town meeting members. Um and that there are differing opinions among the planning board members. Um and but we we felt generally it should be we should recommend it to be on the warrant. >> Absolutely. >> Not unlike you, I hope.
>> No, I I I want it on the warrant. Um I I believe it as as I've said before, I believe it belongs in front of the people. I don't personally support it. I don't think I've been quiet about that um at all. But it doesn't mean that it doesn't mean it's not a good article.
It's not has no reflection of your work. I just it is it is what it is. I I I see the enforcement as an issue. I see the enforcement as an issue now. Um as far as being a voting community, we've always been a voting community. This thing's been in in our bylaws for years.
It doesn't change any of that. So, um they're still going to have to, you know, I I'm more comfortable with having the restriction on it. Although I do agree with Mark, it will be harder to enforce, but that's it's a good compromise because otherwise they're sitting there all year long. And so, and
that's certainly not something that I want. So, we'll see what happens. But it's it's um I'm still very very appreciative of everything that you've done. I think you've come up with a great um middle ground. >> Thank you for your time. >> Thank you very much. >> Right. So, we're going to move on to the
recommendation. >> When did this the lobster farming come up? >> Well, we're going to talk sale. We're going to go over the warrant. >> Okay. So, they go away for that. Okay. I see. >> Nothing's Nothing's changed. They only >> We needed to grab them. >> Nope. >> Nope. Not at all. So, we're going to go
through the uh warrant now and we will make our recommendations on the articles and um our votes on that. So, are you going to get into every article or are we just going to go through it? >> We'll um Well, we'll hit every article
needs a a recommendation. We've discussed them. If you want any discussion, feel free. I just want to point out with the um the warrant this week at the direction of the board, we've made um a couple amendments in um
moving the articles around and the LCP article earlier um the feasibility study for the school a little bit later and adding the MacArthur school article and everything else is the same as you've seen it in previous weeks. And the
first article that requires a recommendation is article one on the OPED transfer. >> Is there a recommendation from the board to Is there a motion to recommend article one? >> I move that we re I move the
recommendation of article one. >> Second. >> Any discussion on that? All those in favor? >> I I >> that's 5. And next is the analysis of the PAS groundwater contamination. >> Does anybody want to discussion on that?
And I don't think anything's changed on it. Does anybody want to make a motion? >> Make a motion to support the analysis of PAS groundwater contamination. >> Article two. Okay. Is there a second to that? >> Any discussion on that motion? All those in favor?
>> Any opposed? That passes 5. >> Madam chair, I vote to recommend article three. Second. >> Second. Any discussion on the motion? Anybody want any further clarification? All those in favor? I >> I. >> Any oppose? It passes unanimously. 5-0.
>> Madam chair, I recommend article four. >> Second. >> Any discussion? >> I would just like to point out that I was appreciative that the word continued was added. Thank you, Bob. >> Okay. >> Oh, I forgot to meant yes. Thank you for adding it. >> All right. Any further discussion of
article four? All those in favor? I. >> Any opposed? passes unanimously. Article five, structural analysis for Lawrence MacArthur School. >> I move to recommend article five. >> Second. It's for 130,000. Uh any discussion on that?
>> All those in favor? >> I. >> Any oppose? It passes unanimously. Support article. >> Madam Chair, I vote to recommend article six. >> Second. >> Any discussion? All those in favor? I >> I >> Madam Chair, I vote to I motion to uh
recommend article 7. >> Second. >> Any discussion on the motion? All those in favor? >> I >> uh I have a very controversial motion to make on article. >> All right, let's do it. >> Move to recommend. >> Oh, wow. >> It's meeting time. >> Yeah.
>> All right. Okay. >> It's a hot issue, you know. >> It is. >> Yeah. >> Okay. I didn't know. >> I think he's pulling your clock. >> All right. >> Not really. >> Wow. I don't know how I'm going to vote on this one. All those in favor? >> I >> passes unanimously. You abstain. >> No, no, no.
>> Oh, >> I >> Okay, thank you. That's 50. >> Golf Enterprise. >> I move to recommend article 9. >> Second. >> Any discussion on the motion? All those in favor? >> I passes unanimously.
>> I move to recommend article 10. >> Second. >> Any discussion on the motion? >> All those in favor? I >> passes unanimously. >> Move to recommend article 11. >> I think I see a typo on
>> shoutouted out. >> It's 5 550,000 >> or 500,000. >> Yeah, that is a a typo and >> it's written in words 500,000 too. I think the correct amount is 550.
>> So we need to fix that. That's in the article itself. >> In the article itself. >> Do we Thanks. >> That's a good catch. So I move to recommend with that revision. >> Second. Okay. Good. >> All those in favor? >> I. Any opposed?
>> Okay. Article 11. >> Move to recommend. >> Second. >> Any discussion? All those in favor? >> I oppose. passes unanimously. Revision to the dog bylaw. >> Oh, I I recommend that we >> Wait, I going to discuss it.
>> We were going to have a presentation on this. >> There's a a hearing coming up on November 4. >> Okay. Can we can we hold our recommendation on this? When are you printing this? >> Um, this would have to be printed um before that. So, um you can recommend that on town meeting floor.
>> I personally I would like more information on it. >> So, we're holding off on that. Huh. So I madam chair I I I move that we hold on a recommendation for article 12 until >> second >> uh town town town meeting. >> Okay.
I just won't take action on that one. All right. Article 13 which is the school feasibility study. >> I move to recommend. >> Second. Any discussion on the motion? All those in favor. >> Any opposed? Passes unanimously.
Move to recommend article 14. >> Second. >> A second. >> Any discussion on the motion? All those in favor? >> I I >> unanimously article 15 zoning for boat parking. >> I move to recommend article 15.
>> Second >> discussion. >> Yes. >> Um just a point of order. By recommending it, I'm not specifically I I'm basically just recommending that it come to the town meeting for >> No, because we've already made a warrant. We This is This is our recommend. This is not whether or not it
gets put on. They when the planning board makes their mo motion, it gets put on. >> This is whether or not we recommend to the people the support of the >> support >> to support the article. >> So, you're committing to to put your boat here or there with this. >> Well, you're you're committing to the
yearround portion. I mean the um seasonality portion of it. >> Yes, you are. >> Um okay. >> I know it's complicated when when you have a piece of it that you like the majority of it. >> You could not
>> I think the re the reason why I'm going to vote to recommend is because the chair has made it very clear that there the planning board's open to revisiting it if there's some complications or some issues that could come up. So, um, that's that's the basis for my
recommendation in support. >> I hear you. Okay, I'm ready to vote. >> Okay. All those in favor? >> I opposed. I >> Three to two. >> And that will be a discussion. And >> three yes, two no. >> Yes. Three to two. I I I think it's
worthy if somebody asks you why you don't recommend that you don't it's again >> it's not a reflection of the bylaw overall. It's just the piece of it that you >> perhaps there will be an amendment and a discussion.
>> All right. Okay. Great. So, uh are we going to now um we need to >> need a motion to approve and execute the warrant as amended. >> So moved. >> Second. >> Any discussion on that motion? All those
in favor? >> I. >> Any opposed? Nay. It's 50 to execute. Are we going to No, I think it's our next agenda that we will um appoint. Who is going to >> We'll have the motions, assign the
articles. We're going to have uh um a Minitown meeting, go through all of the articles for the public, and a special public hearing on the dog um article. >> When? >> November 4. >> Okay. So, that's >> Okay.
All right. So, we will divvy them up. There's not too many. >> No. >> Well, I get three each. >> Oh, gee. >> Be so much fun. All right. So, is there anything else with the
warrant that we need to >> No. All set. >> All right. Great. There's a letter here um in our packet from Julian Seir or to Julian Seir. um relative to
uh a vote that had already occurred and adopted um at special town meeting on April 9th, 2025. It needs to be submitted. So, I'd ask for a motion to approve the letter that says, "Dear Julian Sier, at the regular meeting held on October 21st, 2025, the select board
of the town of Yarmouth voted to forward to you the attached petition for special legislation as adopted by Yarmouthtown meeting on April 9th, 2025. The board kindly requests you file this request for special legislation with the general court of the commonwealth. Thank you for your assistance with this legislation.
And this is relating to the Department of Natural Resource um employees. And >> Madam Chair, I move to I move to approve the letter to the senator. >> Okay. Any discussion on the motion? All those in favor? >> I. Any opposed?
>> Great. Perfect. Next step. All right. And the next one is a vote that's going to authorize our town administrator to file an application and execute agreements for grants and or loan assistance relative to the water department for cyber security upgrades.
>> So moved. Madam chair. >> Okay. >> Second. >> Any discussion on the motion? >> Can you just uh educate me a little bit on this? I was going to >> the um we we have the the computer SCADA system, right, that operates um all of
the um you know the water >> pumps and and it's extremely important technology. >> Say no more. >> I gota thank you. >> Yes, this happened something happened uh to another Massachusetts community recently and so I think that this is important thing to secure our very
>> important >> our system. So, one other thing I just wanted to point out on this is that she references additional funding that has been acrewing to the water department through the town IT department's cyber
security. We have um I think one of Southeastern Mass's leading um cyber security programs that had been funded heavily by state grants. We're planning our next tabletop exercise um as we speak. And you know, you read about some
of our area communities that have had critical problems with this and it's so seriously debilitating. You just need to know that Yarmouth is making cyber security. It's one of our huge initiatives. You don't hear a lot about it, but um we are extraordinarily active
on it and that's all through the IT department. Paul Choppy's been >> that that makes a lot of sense in this in this when I visit the IT department and there's so much going on on that level. So I think not enough credit
sometimes and again it's it's invisible. So great. Thank you. >> All those in favor I. >> Any opposed? Passes unanimously. Boards and committee actions. Joyce. >> Okay. um three tonight. Um I nominate
Tom Pendleton to serve um a three-year unexpired term uh well an unexpired term through July 2027. And I would just say that this is replacing um not that anyone can replace um Jim Sabin and Tom
Pendleton will work every bit as hard. >> Second. I I think motion and then second because I nom I nominate. So >> So moved. >> I I took us a while to clear this up. >> Okay. Uh any discussion?
>> All in favor? >> I >> Good job. >> Okay. Um I nominate Joel and Kada Kada Martorii um for a three-year unexpired term um that would go through January 2028.
>> So moved. >> The personnel board second. Do you remember Joella? >> Yes, I do. I think it's great that she's coming back to serve. She's amazing. She is amazing. She's wonderful. She's got a tre tremendous job and that that skill set is perfect for that
>> for that board. >> Yeah. >> Wonderful. >> Okay. Further discussion? >> All in favor signify by saying I. >> I. >> Okay. I nominate uh Jane Martin for a three-year term to serve through October
2028 on the age friendly community committee. >> So moved. >> Second. >> Any discussion? >> I just wondered was that one of the ones where they have their own election.
Okay. Very good. Thank you. >> Okay. All those in favor signify by saying I. Hi. >> All right. Thank you, Joyce. >> I have a question um regarding appointments and it may be why Mark is
still here. What was the decision on the school committee >> applications accepted through Halloween? >> What's going on, I guess? >> Well, first of all, I I had that to give you guys um >> Oh, in your report
>> an update. I and and and I'll do it now. And I I just want to say that um extraordinarily proud of our efforts I think as a community in um advertising on that school committee vacancy uh both in Mark's here uh for the for the school
department. You know, they really uh took us under their wing and got the advertisement and sent it out through their entire network and the communications department. Um I I think really established a new standard which we're trying to do. um every time we set
out that I I think will be extremely helpful in the future. That um notice has been on cable TV incessantly. There's radio spots. Um it's all over our website. Um social media. Uh I I
think at this point everyone in the community uh is is completely aware of it and and that has set a new standard. So I I um think people are going to get sick of hearing about the the vacancy and we're going to use this sort of template now moving forward whenever we
get um anything that we want everyone to know about um you know we've got the um we need a code word for it I I think it's the full monty thing >> there you go
every every aspect of >> so move we'll call it the full monty >> and and we have it set up for I don't have the ad with me but it's coming up I think on the next meeting we've got we indicated exactly like the board had sort of written out the um the advertisement
that people are ready on November 4 um for their interviews. We just need to set up the schedule and then the final date I'm trying to think um we we set it exactly at the meeting. It was I think it was Halloween right around >> Sounds familiar. Yeah.
>> And so um all of that we we carried out and um we we've already you know received some interest. So >> Oh, good. Oh, very good. >> Very happy. And and thanks to the school department as well. >> Great upcoming. >> I'm delighted that it will be um it will
be appointed by us before the town meeting because it would be good for them to have even though they don't have um um budgets voted on or something like that. Be good for them to have a full contingent for the special town meeting. >> All right. So, upcoming agenda review on
November 4th. Uh we'll recognize some retirements. We will do the burn building transfer. There's a finality there that needs to happen. We'll do our interviews for the school committee. We will hear from Amadakis.
Um the re reutilization committee update uh presentation from Habitat. Uh special town meeting review and uh the dog hearing. Okay, that's a full >> busy night.
>> Busy night. >> Do we have Oh, December 2nd. Dagots. Okay. >> Yeah, we'll put in Dagots. >> That's December 2nd. >> Great. I don't think we can do anything else at our next meeting and we can discuss from there. When are we making are were we
making our appointment on the same day? What did we talk about the date it had to be had to be um approved by? >> Um it is that November 4 is the date because >> so we have to do the interviews and the appointment on the same >> on that same day.
>> Okay. >> Which I know we don't like to do. >> No, >> I think for that one >> we we have >> Yeah, >> we have a time constraint so we don't have a choice. All right, great. Individual items. Oh, I have an agenda item, but not for the
4th. It's for either the 2nd or the 16th at one of the December meetings, and that is the resolution that we got all the letters for. >> Well, we already talked about that. >> We talked tonight. >> No, we didn't talk about it tonight, but we we pulled the board before. Is any we
can pull the board again. >> Is the anybody in the board want to make agenda? Yeah, I think because we've received the requests, I'm very comfortable asking them to come before us and explain their petition. >> What date? >> Either one.
>> Which is lighter in December? >> Well, you know, >> the lightest evening. >> We can do We can do either one of them. >> Let's do the December 2nd just to not crush us against the end of the year
type thing. >> Is that okay? December 2nd. >> What do we call that one? The resolution. >> It's a resolution. Um for um >> fair treatment.
>> It's affirmation of um of human rights. >> Okie do. Got it. Okay. Anybody else have anything else on upcoming agenda? >> Okay. Um >> Madam Chair, >> yes. >> Um just just a point of inquiry regarding a a potential
future agenda items. I know we have um firefighters that are being acknowledged as firefighters of the year and um I'm wondering if it would be appropriate for us as a board to maybe invite those firefighters that have been that are
being that have received recognition to invite them at an appropriate time to come here and uh and >> that would be great. And also Jeff Kby would like to recognize him as well. I know we have we have fire on for our next meeting for retirements perhaps.
>> Um but they're available. I guess it depends upon when those people that are being recognized are available, but >> yeah, I think it would be great to have them come before the board and sort of and and the same with Jeff. >> I mean, these are outstanding employees for the town. I think uh for Jeff to
come here and uh you know um for us to be able to acknowledge him and uh thank him and congratulate him on this award I think would be appropriate as well as with the firefighters. I think I I would to some degree leave it up to the chair and the town administrator to work on
the timing of that because it may be appropriate to do our recognition following um those those events and those ceremonies although I think Jeff's has already happened. Mhm. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. But I'm not sure on the firefighter recognitions.
>> There's a November 25. Um >> I I know that that that is the ceremony statewide. So we might want to do the do Jeff next time and do the firefighters on the second. I know we'll have the chief in. >> Whatever works for them. Yeah. It's um
it's not a long agenda item, so we can fit them in anytime. Great idea. So that would be great. Thank you. On indiv and on an individual item for which are we going on to indiv? >> It's open. >> Okay. Great. Um, I just want to uh
congratulate another former uh Yarmouth administrator uh Liz Hartzgrove for being uh getting an appointment as the town administrator >> for the town of uh great great uh Bington. >> Really? >> Yeah. She has been serving as the
assistant in uh Bourne for quite a while and she's done an outstanding job in Bourne and um she's now uh she applied for the the town administrator's job there and uh she's been she's been selected. So >> that's exciting. Yeah, >> that's great. That's a great
>> and she's I think Liz still lives in >> Yarmouth. >> Yeah. So kudos to Liz and um >> hopefully >> very beautiful place. Yeah, >> it is. It is. So congratulations Liz. I had a couple individual items. >> Sure.
>> Um would we guide me please? Uh we received a letter um regarding the title five septic tax credit. Is this something that I would discuss individually with our town administrator or is this something that
the board of selection >> I think this is an item that um we're as individuals or as a board being asked to support. >> Yes. >> Um because I think there's an effort underway by some town officials on the
Cape to expand the tax credit or to maybe have it deducted. I don't know the details of it, but I know I know the email that you're referring to. Doug Brown, who's a select board member in the town of Falmouth, >> that's probably a a future agenda item
at some point. I would say >> that been on the the list >> and I would recommend that we if if that's okay, Madam Chair, um as we add that to the list of things to bring up. Um and we're going to have need you, Liz, to kind of >> brief us and update us on exactly what
it is that Doug >> some more information. Yeah. Ask >> what was his name? I don't have >> Doug Brown. We have this uh >> Doug Brown. >> He's been big on this. He keeps talking about it all the time. >> And then the other >> and the legislators show up at our Cape Islands municipal leaders meetings. He's
alwaysounding them on. And then I noticed just this is more of a comment than a um the Times had a pretty nice um article um that Chris Lampton was interviewed about their town meeting and
um they are voting on a new community fee on short-term rentals which I thought was interesting. >> Well, tonight's their town meeting so we'll see how that turns out. >> Yep. And um [Music]
That's it. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. >> I have one individual item. Um jumping on top of what Mark said about Liz Hartsgrove. Um Yarmouth's dynamic uh politically is expanding still further
because uh the Yarmouth rep to the uh >> bye Mark uh to the um Assembly of Delegates got elected speaker. So Susan Warner is now the speaker. Great. >> I would love for Susan to come to our meeting and tell us what's going on.
I've never seen her. >> We could we could invite >> Yeah, that's okay. >> I mean, when when we had Suzanne there, she used to come and give us regular >> came every three months. >> She was pretty much you can count on her like clockwork. She was here every few
months explaining to us what the county was doing that might impact the town of Yarmouth. She did a great job. So, so Mark, we we don't get all that from you. I assume that you kind of sent it down the table, >> but it's different. She's elected in for Yarmouth. Um, specific there's an
>> two different >> Yeah. There when the delegates positions were created, there was a real debate in Barnstable County about do we need delegates or can't we just stick with the county finance advisory board. So um when it was decided to kind of phase out
the finance advisory board, the understanding was is that all the delegates would make regular interactions and appearances with select boards and keep in touch with town administrators. >> And um we've had to sort of really we've
struggled as a board to get them to come here. Ever since Suzanne stepped down from that position, it's been it's been a challenge to have the delegates come here and explain what they're up to and what they're doing. Um, they vote on the rates for the dredge that have an impact
on our budget. Uh, that there's a series of decisions and things that are going on. I'm I'm happy to fill that void, but I do think there's a that >> Yeah, that should it's part of the job description also for them. I suggest
that we extend an invitation for a a 2025 report for December 16th meeting. >> I think the invitation's always open. >> I have to go to the county. I'll drop in.
>> There you go. If there's anything, Joyce, that you'd like me to update the board on, I'm happy to do it. Again, I it would be my it would be my hope that >> we're open and she could come anytime. She doesn't need to have an agenda. >> The the initiative came from that side.
>> Well, yeah. I think that that's part of should be a part of her responsibility. I mean, we we can invite her if we want. I don't know if she needs an agenda item. It's usually a twominut update. >> She would come public comments. >> Yeah. >> And if there was something uh that required some discussion, she'd get on the agenda.
>> So, yeah, I think >> Oh, so that would be part of the it's part of the job, you know. So, >> agreed. All right. Anybody else have any individual items? >> Okay. Moving on to the consent agenda. We have >> Madam Chair, I move the consent agenda.
>> Second. >> Any discussion? All those in favor? >> I opposed. Okay. Administrator. >> Okay. Madam Chairman, I have a couple of items I wanted to keep the board apprised of. The first one was on
October 16th, we had our second affordable h housing trust meeting to review that chapter 4B comprehensive permit application on 897 Route 28. Um and I I just want to say the correspondence from the select board um
was very helpful in that process and um we have a third meeting that we are in the process of scheduling now and we're expecting some plan revisions um and they've indicated you know that they're willing to make some and we wanted to
see those tremendously and um I know um Liz had occasion knows very well the developer and is also going to be asking him to come in and make those changes in uh cooperation what the correspondence that we've had and the discussions we
had but we're going to do this all in front of the affordable housing trust. So we'll be at at these open public meetings talking about the the possibility of that development. So we do hope to see it improved um and you know we're working quite hard on that.
We think you know they should be the possibility of having a less unfriendly 40V for this parcel. And I'll, you know, leave it at that and we're very hopeful that um the petitioners come around and and make some of those changes, especially with the whole architectural
piece and and they've indicated or willing to study mixed use as well. >> And have they been willing to study the density that they have for that property? >> Yeah, the density is the big problem is that it's kind of a sticking point that they they want to have it, put it this
way, more dense than is allowed under the town zoning. So, one of the things they've requested is a waiver for the town zoning on the density. But what what you know we've all determined is that you shouldn't get any waiver for um something that that's poorly laid out
and that is architecturally designed to look like that. And so what we're going to try to do is incorporate a mixeduse portion of the development which will um reduce somewhat the residential density and and also we want to see the the site
design changed the layout uh the traffic patterns the architecture especially. >> Oh yeah. Um, so I I think that no matter what they come up with, you're going to see a continued request for density in excess of what the zoning currently
allows. I mean, that's the whole thing. That's why you do a 40B. >> Yeah. >> But the way >> very upfront about >> the way it's proposed, um, you know, it it would be very unfriendly. So, we're hoping to bring them around to be a little bit more friendly.
So, that is um is ongoing. and I'll let everyone know as soon as we get that date, we're we're waiting, you know, to make sure that they have the plans and they're ready to come in and and talk to us. And they've agreed to do that. Um, also, we've um been we're halfway
through our interview process for the new deputy fire chief position that was approved at town meeting. It's been a fascinating process. I'm happy to be participating directly, you know, you know, along with the um the command staff of the fire department and we're
making great progress. It's um you know I think going to be one of the most critical positions in really impacting the positive development of that department to be able to focus on the training create those whole mechanisms for pathways forward to um involve the
you know rank and file to to make it so that people are prepared for advancement to do that succession planning in that department. So um very encouraged with that. Um, I want to mention there's a another bill that is coming up that I'll
send everyone. I just got it in this afternoon um on the Municipal Empowerment Act, which we're very much in in favor of and the joint committee on municipalities and regional government is going to have a a public hearing on that on October 28th. And I
do believe it's going to be available if anyone wants to testify um remotely on it. But there's a a lot of new provisions that are local options that that provides the communities um that could help us raise some additional
revenues um and solve some other problems. So I want to make sure that the Municipal Empowerment Act is on everyone's radar screen. >> What was the date of the hearing? >> October 28th. I think it's at 10:30 in the morning. And we haven't heard anything from the state our senator or
or well we don't of course >> we haven't heard >> we had him in here last >> but that was that was seasonal communities. Is this different municipal empowerment? >> Yes this is a different >> the ability to do something with them for in terms of income. >> Yes. What this does is it streamlines a
lot of the provisions of the state regulation of local government and provides additional options for local governments to be more sustainable. So >> Okay. So because um we're it's very different from seasonal communities. >> Correct. >> Yeah. Okay. That's
>> right. But but that like for short-term rentals that's what I was thinking of. You could you you have the ability to um appropriate a local tax. >> Okay. So, it doesn't have anything to do with seasonal communities, and I should read up on it because it sounds very
>> Mass Municipal Association has been a strong advocate for this legislation. I haven't heard anything. >> What it does is it's it's sort of it's if you're a municipal junkie, >> uh a municipal town administrator. Um, typically it's designed to streamline
the business of municipal government. >> Full monty of it really >> is a very robust. It's a robust full monty. >> The robust full monty. You got that right. >> I'll send out um I I have uh some background information that also
announces that that hearing. And >> um I also want to make sure board members are aware and I I know um >> member Forest is um aware he was at the meeting. The um second Emmy small school building committee meeting was held on
October 16th and it was fascinating. It was a very um interesting meeting I felt because uh the school building administration completed their enrollment projections which we saw for the first time and I did participate in
that process to study um the the enrollment and and which is interesting in a in a nutshell. They show the enrollment in our schools to remain fairly steady over the next 10 years. very small drop. But this is despite
what you know is looking to become a pretty significant drop in the overall town population where we have it through 2050 that um you know may go even you know below 20,000 and and those are just um you know
>> projections but but the um the school age population uh is not declining as much as the the total population and that is a fascinating kind of a thing. And um I know it's I I I have difficulty wrapping difficulty wrapping you know my
head around the whole thing and um you know some of the issues that they're interesting issues that that we confront and Dr. Smith points out you know uh anecdotally uh a a new phenomenon that they're coming across is um multiple students
from the single family home in in many respects. So, you know, some households are >> their own. >> Yeah. Are are mixing and and you're you're winding up with um you know, so there so more in migration, but >> Well, I see. So, they're not getting registered as multiple families, but
they're getting because they're not showing up. >> They are they're they're multiple families, but you look at at I think it's a more of a function of inmigration. Yeah. that it's difficult for people to afford their own homes, but that's not stopping them from
migrating to our community. In certain instances, folks are sharing homes, families, and um so you you know where the the >> households size is shrinking. We know that people having less children, but here we are single um you know dwellings
having more than one family. Now all of a sudden they're having more children than than we had expected. And that's all fueling um you know the the population estimates, but it's not a dramatic situation. It's not like we're growing very fast or declining very fast, but I
I do think you could pretty much count on and and this I I believe that that the school enrollment should be fairly stable at least in the immediate short >> term. If I can just add, I think this is a phenomenon that we're seeing in the vineyard out on Nantucket. Uh if you look at the Nantucket enrollment
numbers, you would think that given the average value of a home on Nantucket, it would be that the enrollment numbers would be declining significantly, but that's not the case. The same phenomenon of families doubling up uh you know in properties that you're seeing that
happen. So there's a lot there there's a there's a lot that going on here >> change the way we look at things a little bit. Yeah. >> Exactly. So, that was our first real look at those. And and I I just want to point out also, I um wasn't going to mention this much, but uh you know, the
the Cape Cod municipal managers, we have a joint meeting set up. Um it's going to be in November with the Cape Cod superintendent >> group. and and one of the things that we have as a a major issue on our agenda that we want to discuss is looking
regionally at these population estimates for the school children and um instead of just you know we're hyperfocused on what's happening in the DUI school system which obviously is of primary importance but I think a lot of these trends that are going around in the
community surrounding us impact us directly and so I'm hoping to see some more um regional based school population studies so that we can get a better handle on exactly what is going on with the immigration out migration because you know I'm hearing a
lot that population across the Cape Towns is decreasing and and some of the towns have a rapidly discre decreasing school population >> but our community um is not following that >> trend on those bump do you know
>> yeah when when you take a look at at at like places like Chadam I Dennis is is decreasing not as rapidly as you know I think Orleans Chadam >> in East Ham Province Town it's
>> right >> you know very rapidly so it's a lot of the outer Cape communities that are um losing school age population you know pretty quickly >> while we're on that topic madam chair um the Cape Islands Municipal Leaders
Association is inviting >> How come I don't get emails from them anymore. >> They come to um Mary Alice >> and she she generally distributes them to all members on the board. >> I got one.
>> I'll check with I'll make sure if we get them we we send them out to everybody. >> Okay. >> Yeah. So, um so at the meeting of the Cape Islands Municipal Leaders Association on December 12th, which will be a breakfast meeting at the Emerald
resort. Um the superintendents will be there to talk about many of the same issues uh with the Cape Select board members and other uh municipal leaders. So make a note of that on on your agenda. I think we're interested in
getting a a handle on some of the very same challenges that the managers are talking to the superintendent about. So, >> and finally, I just wanted to make sure everyone knew next week I'll be in attendance at the International City and
County Managers um annual conference. It's going to be down in Florida. There's um a lot of fabulous professional development opportunities and I've already got some appointments set up with um there's one firm I've
targeted that develops um regional recreational facilities on public private partnerships. I think um you know I've seen some of their work before, but I'm going to sit down and try to talk to them and and see um you
know next steps for implementation. on Madakis may very well be to involve and and there's so many different parts in the process where you can involve a company like this to try to get proposals but I know um not so much in
our area but um across the United States especially in you know the southern tier and things these public private partnerships for recreational facilities that have kind of a regional event they're enormously successful they're successful as economic economic
development tools. They're successful as recreational tools. They're successful as community building. So, I'd like to learn a lot more about that and um so that'll be fascinating. And I'll be back in in the office by the tail end of next week. >> Enjoy.
>> Excellent. Anything else? >> No, that's all I have. >> To adjourn. >> So moved. >> Second. All those in favor? Hi. Have a good