##VIDEO ID:Lby4iXYPiMY## [Applause] good evening ymer select board December 10th 2024 uh 6 p.m Yarmouth Town Hall hearing room 11:46 Route 28 South Yarmouth Mass per Massachusetts General law all town and school boards committee and authorities shall post a notice of every meeting at least 48 hours in advance of the meeting this is to formally advise that as required by mgl chapter 30A sections 18 to 25 and pursuant to chapter 20 of the acts of 2021 an act relative to extending certain covid-19 measures adopted during the state of emergency signed into law on June 16th 20 21 as extended by chapter 2 of the acts of 2023 the yor select board will hold a public meeting on Tuesday December 10 2024 at 6: PM in the hearing room yarmon Hall 11:46 Route 28 South Yarmouth Mass 02664 the public is welcome to attend either in person or via the alternative Public Access provided on the town website I'd ask you all to join me in uh standing for for the Pledge of Allegiance I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all welcome to the yarma select board meeting we'll start with uh do we have any announcements for this evening I have no announcements I I do have um let me get the mic around so that this will go out on the recording um it's good news not quite Santa Claus brings you something great news but good news um the uh power supply rates for the capik compact for the January 2025 um until July 1st 2025 uh period have gone down that's very unusual for rates that are going that are starting in uh um in the winter so anyway the rate now is 12.02 4 cents a kilowatt hour that's for the regular service and that beats out even eversource's um cheapest rate of 13. 34 347 um there are also two options um if you uh would like to help Renewable Power Supply there's a 50% local green rate where you pay a differential and uh um that 50% um the the amount from the uh Renewable Power that's necessary by the state mandate from the uh renewable uh portfolio um it's it's more than the amount of renewable energy uh purchased that's that's from renewable energy sources and that with the rate that's the green rate and the 50% um that additional uh up to 50% between the basic uh requirement and up to 50% is all purchased from renewable energy sources in Massachusetts then there's a 100 uh uh% uh green power local green and that's 15.62 4 cents a kilowatt hour so 100% local green 15 cents in some 50% local green 13 cents in some but already above the required uh minimum by the state is 12.02 4 cents and uh that's the basic residential rate with the compact so we're really pleased good news Joyce good news thank you public comment do I have anyone here present who has any public comments today Kurt uh court is those who don't know um last night's meeting was horrible to be nice about it unfortunately Ken lost control of the whole thing people who apparently show up at town meeting don't know how to run how to behave at town meeting or whatever um you know there's a comment made about the the storm water they should and there's no storm water in the system and if we get a flood that that is that bad that's going to affect that pump station we got way bigger problems than a pump station um I am a little bothered that we're going forward with something we don't even have an easan on yet um and again it was something said wrong and some things unsaid last night which is unfortunate but um you know one person made a comment why don't we put this pump station here well you know the the basic rules of Plumbing is Hots on the left colds on the right and it flows downhill some pump stations need to be at low points otherwise you're going to be digging very very very deep to put a pump station in a high spot and it makes the pumps larger and more expensive to do that also so people need to keep those kind of things in mind when trying to understand why a pump station or some part of a system is put where it's put and I hope you don't cave in on it as long as the Eastman gets straightened out I think the pump station just stay where it is and I don't think I've never heard of anybody trying to threaten the bog take the bog anything else again a lot of stuff was said last night that should not have been said because it wasn't true I hope people keep that in mind thank you Kurt good evening Madam chair select Bo thank you very much Tom Nell Precinct 3 uh I'm just here tonight to um um share a couple things with uh my my counterpart or used to be my chairman Mr D young which is on our agenda tonight um Steve is U for 20 years um twice a month it's like 3500 applications the man has done and he's done good by our town he's uh treated everybody fairly I'm not too sure what the s in the middle of Steven D young is but maybe it's sly because that's what he's good at but um uh Mr D young um did an outstanding job um for being a volunteer on our committee um as you know our volunteers are very few and far and our town is run by committees uh we just happened to lose another Committee Member to be select board member uh so now we have to find another Committee Member and I think it's in the selectman's purview to have two alternates according to the bulletin to replace the now select board member uh which if you're a select board member you cannot be on another committee so but I think there is u a way to uh fill that slot until the next election um and um I also want to make a comment that yesterday was another great volunteer Committee Member board of appeals if anybody remembers Bryant Bob Palmer he would have been 89 yest today thank you thank you chairwoman do we have anyone else here in the room orcus might I just correct a misstatement there sure I just wanted to let everybody know Liz Argo your new select person I will be staying on o Kings Highway committee as well so just to that that so that will not be an empty position thank you okay I see Vita Morris's hand up Vita good evening good evening can you hear me I can indeed all right uh I want to go back to last night's meeting it I could not believe what the town moderator did when the man from the uh Stop and Shop wanted to speak suddenly he got very technical about uh the person having to be a resident and a voter in in yarmi this this is a man representing a the the most agreed group over that whole mess of the Plastics and and uh considering how the uh uh whole situation was going there last night back and forth that that people you know nobody answered the the the questions directly at all when asked several times and he perhaps this man could have gotten given some really good information and to for the the town moderator to get suddenly very technical about it I could not believe that he did that I think he owes an apology to this man and uh and and U I'm surprised that this nobody uh tried to corre collect correct the moderator during the whole meeting I it's a disgrace thank you VA do we have anyone else on on Zoom I don't see any other hands up okay we're going to be moving on to our next agenda item um we heard some words already about Steph D young um recognition tonight of his volunteer service Karen do you have a few words you would like to say sure uh Karen green director of Community Development um Steve is not able to attend tonight's meeting um he's I think down in Florida and um he did want to relay his his thank you for this special recognition I'll Echo uh Tom's comments Steve's been an amazing volunteer he's been here as long as you know many many years on the planning board on the uh zoning board of appeals he ran a great meeting and he did a super job um listening to everybody he had you know hard hard applications easy applications I think he always made people feel welcome and uh he was a great uh you know great with his fellow board members too because you know when you've been here for 35 years or something like that you you see a lot of other people come and go and uh zba in particular and planning board are not easy volunteer jobs um so he was always very helpful uh with new people um but Steve says um I wish I was there to accept this honorarium please thank the select board in abencia so clearly Steve's words well I'd like to read this into the record we have uh town of yarma Select board official citation be it known that the town of Y Yarmouth hereby recognizes stepen EST young for his on his generous contributions as volunteer and be it further known that the town of Yarmouth extends its sincerest thanks and appreciation for his Wireless commitment to and participation within the community for more than 35 years his dedication as a board member on the planning board and on the zoning board of appeals many years during which he held the chair position is especially noted as well as his extensive knowledge diplomacy and respect for applicants from all walks of life this citation is duly signed by the Vice chair yarma select board on this 10th day of of December in the year of Our Lord 2024 Steve In Absentia thank you so much you really and truly have been a true um and dedicated volunteer in this town and we already just recently accepted with regret but our great thanks your resignation from the board of appeals would any of the other select board members like to say something about this yes uh I had the fortune over a decade ago of serving with Steve on the planning board um for many years and he served with great honor and uh he has he took over when David Reed um was no longer on the board of appeals and those were some pretty big shoes to fill and he's done a remarkable job and I just want to personally thank him um for being such a great board member and somebody to serve with and for all of his years that he's dedicated to Yarmouth and to thank his family as well because we all know when we serve the family serves along with them so thank you thank you Tracy we wish you well you're in a good place there in Florida Joyce I'd just like to say I was in the room one time when there was extremely contentious behavior and Steve handled it like a pro good for you Steve thank you and enjoy your warm War climate down there in Florida okay moving on on our next item on the agenda we have two proclamations today say anything is she gonna say anything about Steve I thought Karen was gonna speak Karen did no Karen did you want to say anything else Karen no no but I'm I'm happy to um help get the uh citation off to Steve and we'll actually also share it with the board of appeals who I think will be recognizing Steve uh and thanking him again on Thursday thank you Karen I just okay uh the first Proclamation that we have is for Pearl Harbor Remembrance Day whereas in the annals of American History only a few events are so well known and so deeply rooted in National remembrance that the M mention of their date suffices to describe them of these occurrences none could have had more significance for our nation than December 7th 1941 and whereas on that Sunday morning 83 years ago the Imperial Japanese Navy launched an unprovoked surprise attack upon the United States forces stationed at Pearl Harbor Hawaii this attack claimed the lives of 2,43 Americans wounded 1,000 178 more and damaged our Naval capabilities in the Pacific and whereas every honor is appropriate for the courageous Americans who made the Supreme sacrifice for our nation at Pearl Harbor and in the many battles that followed in World War II their sacrifice was for a cause not for Conquest for a world that would be safe for future Generations their devotion must never be forgotten now therefore we the select Board of the town of Yarmouth Massachusetts to hereby announce and Proclaim December 7th 2024 as National Pearl Harbor Remembrance Day in Yarmouth and we call upon its citizens to observe this occasion with appropriate ceremonies and activities uh we were able to Pro uh provide this Proclamation at the uh ceremony that was held at Smuggler Beach uh for those of you who were not able to attend that day um it was a very moving uh ceremony um and we even had in attendance one of the uh actual veterans of World War II who was there um so my thanks uh to the Yarmouth Rotary Club and um to the organizers of um the event the second Proclamation we have is for Rees Across America day whereas Reese across America year-long mission is to remember the Fallen honor those who serve and teach the Next Generation the value of Freedom since it's in Inception in Maine 32 years ago the program has grown to include more than 3 million volunteers a third of whom are children and over 4600 ceremonies in every United States state and territory on the second Saturday of December and whereas today we honor the men and women of Yarmouth who since our towns founding have answered the call to serve their country in defense of Freedom whether they have reached their final resting place or are standing here today we can never forget their sacrifice for this we say thank you and we are honored to be among you now therefore we the select Board of the town of Yarmouth Massachusetts to hereby announce and Proclaim December 14 2024 as Reese across America day in Yarmouth and we call upon its citizens to observe this occas with appropriate ceremonies and activities both very welld deserved and speaking in this Proclamation about um men and women of Yarmouth who have uh sered since our Town's founding we actually will have the historic commission here today to talk to us about that as well thank you very much do we need a motion on that for the proclamations don't no so okay moving on we come to the next uh item which is reorganization of the select board POS positions I will be happy to accept any nominations write it down I hate not having paper well usually somebody jumps in pretty [Music] quick do I have any nominations for the chair um I will nominate Dorcas if she's interested do I have a second on that nomination second okay all in favor any discussion first all those in favor I I I thank you uh moving on to the vice chair I would like to make a nomination on to uh nominate Tracy Post as Vice chair second any discussion all those in favor I I thank you and I believe on our other uh board positions I'd like to nominate Marcus clerk we have a second on that second all those in favor I okay I think that takes care of the board positions that we needed to do tonight or do we need to go through the entire list I'm very comfortable Madam chair if if if you're acceptable the other members are acceptable just to sort of um uh endorse the others that are on the list now I know typically what we do as a common practice is the Newbie on the board usually gets the position of being the appointments chair oh no and um I I hate to break that to you Joyce um but um My Only Exception would be that we uh for the rest of the current assignments that we keep the current assignments the same with the exception of the appointments chair and again we're following tradition past practice which has been for the new member of the board so that would mean uh Liz Argo our new member of the board would um be the appointments chair and um and you want an desent and then what we would we've had co-chairs before we've had co-chairs before would you like is that acceptable for for both you you I know you've got your your plate full with Oak King's Highway and all but it is as as a point of reference uh the charter Pro prohibits you from serving um on an elected or appointed board even though I checked with the Ethics Committee it's our town chowder oh okay I did check now I think that there's there's a question um as to whether the Old Kings Highway is a regional office correct and Charter so we sent that up to Town Council and and Town Council provided an opinion that says that that's a regional body and and under the town's Charter she's not prevented from holding it's elected by Yarmouth It's Not Elected by a region I'm I'm reading it says no selectman shall hold any other elected town office it's not a Dy School District it's not a town office I think is what Bob's saying I'm just saying that's what the Town Council opinion I saw said there might be some value in checking on that because the it would be an issue I mean the Dy Regional school committee is a regional school committee and that's generally hasn't been accepted in the past I'm with me of course I have no no I just think it's worth it's worth get just getting that I I hear what council has said but again this is how we've come down on things in the past particularly like a regional school committee that's not just a Yarmouth board that is a two toown board and that's been it's been an issue in the past with the the school committee so I don't understand why it wouldn't be a a concern with respect to a board like this we determin that that was a regional committee because I was appointed at one point in time to serve as the school committee because it wasn't a town office so we've covered this before then so that that argument doesn't hold then well I I don't think that old King's highways the same maybe we should just wait and see well my only thing is I I don't care what you do I just wouldn't want any of your decisions to be challenged that and that's what it comes down to so I think um you know perhaps they don't know what the town Charter says they're going off a state law but uh it definitely is something you should look into all I'm saying is I just think it's worth double checking should we then co-chair to clear that I like I love the co-chair idea clear this problem up okay so that would work cuz I only got five months just saying love it so um I would I would that that's the Slate then so all of the other positions that we currently hold so for example um Tracy would still continue as the licensing board chair you and Liz would be the appointments co-chairs um we also have uh the ambulance waiver administrative post that's the that's Dorcas dorcas's assignment the rep for the the rep Dy liaison Prime the primary rep for Dy is Tracy Dy by contract negotiations team is Tracy and the scholarship committee rep those that's Tracy um I would continue to serve on the affordable housing trust I would uh Dorcas would be as the alternate airport rep now the last time around we put on hold the madaki Middle School building committee person and so what I would suggest is that we vote on all the others and then revisit the mes to see whether or not it's appropriate to make an appointment ointment or assignment on that um I currently serve as the town's rep on the clean water trust board um and I enjoy that and I'm interested in continuing that Public Access Media Center Joyce Flynn is our rep with that group uh Bob lton serves as our rep on the RTA uh our mpod Dy section rep is Peter Q Smith and our Cape Cod Commission rep is Dennis pre preon so I would recommend that as a board that we adopt all of those proposed assignments do I have a second second any discussion all in favor I now with the respect to the madaki Middle School building committee rep Madam chair I would just um want to ask the administrator is if this is an assignment that we should act on tonight or is that something that we can wait on and defer no I I I think that the um the purpose for that committee has um ended okay so we don't need an appointment to that very good that answers my question right so we'll take that one off the list okay thank you very [Music] much moving on to our next agenda item um we have members here from the historic commission will be joining us to talk about a discussion and vote of a proposed location for Revolutionary War Monument looking forward to hearing what you have to say gentlemen I turn the floor over to you thank you thank you madam chair and select board members uh the last time we were here um we spoke about uh uh Revolutionary War Monument for 453 participants uh but we did not have a location and so we're back um with uh proposed location uh and we want to go through um the process uh to explain that we look at three locations uh there was a place called Liberty Hill which is on the corner of uh 6A and Summer Street not summer Willow Willow Street Willow which is now a private residence uh so that is out then we looked at the yarmouthport green and uh the armouth port green is is centrally located um but uh having um sat out there in a tent last September during a driving rainstorm I noticed that when it rains is a virtual river that runs through that Park uh also I know that um there are already some monuments on that Park and uh anyhow we thought um that we would also look at Thatcher Park which is the playground which is uh Lo also located on 6a and um that seems to be a place where the original meeting house was there uh it was a place of drill for the revolutioner uh War uh uh participants um the Congregational Church as I mentioned and um we thought that that was a more appropriate Place uh to secure the monument and uh what you see on the uh screen are two possible locations that it could go um it can't go in the front by 6A because there are already three monuments ments there um two that denote uh the park itself and one um that is a single Monument to a a person uh who died in World War II William El Melix um was killed November 16th 1944 and is buried in elas Lorraine France near the German border um in 1951 the town appropriated $375 to erect three monuments to um uh soldiers that died in alas Lorraine William milck David Eric Baker and Carol Adams to Silva and uh it was uh I guess petitioned by the armouth American Legion Post 197 and the planning board um through Clause 12 Section 5 chter 40 and the uh finance committee recommended $375 for this the warrant was passed at town meeting and erected the uh monuments were erected in 1951 in case anybody's interested why a single individual is buried the single individual uh uh is William Melix the other two for instance uh for your information uh David Eric Baker is uh in West Yarmouth um at the junction of Route 28 in Maine and Carol Adams D Silva um is in the Triangle at the junction of the bypass in Main Street in Bass River I'm not quite sure where that is um so uh our a recommendation is in the back on the triangle um it's beyond the basketball courts and it's uh an area that's uh little used the other place that would be not too uh obstructive would be over on the left-and side and we thought um that it would be a good idea if the select board made the decision on where they thought it should be okay does anyone on the board have any questions just what's in that back area now it's covered is it shubber a few trees but other than that there's nothing back there there there are three um Stones there that are just part of the Landscaping they're not marked there's a water spigot on a post but that's it it's uh and the monument um will be just the monument or do you plan on I mean I'm thinking you know there there's not a lot of parking in this area which is an issue um I like the side area because if you had a gathering um it's more visible I guess um but I don't know what the overall Town's plan is or if there are any plans for this particular park at all I think we should make sure before we make a decision does anybody know of any Town plan on this parcel Bob do you know of any Town plan that we have for this parcel and I I do know that Community Development Department sort of assisted with all of these materials and I I think that they um were very supportive of the locations did they have a preference or was it not discussed um no we didn't discuss a preference but I I think that this was out of the three sites the one that was preferred somewhere in the Park yeah I mean I like the visibility of the side but in the back um it gives us more flexibility if there were any Redevelopment plans in the future um it's kind of set aside so I don't really have a strong feeling one way or the other but those are my thoughts and I appreciate all the work that you've done I think this will this is an appropriate place for it based on uh what you just spoke of the other um Memorial that is there um now all the activity was in the north side in at this period of time there was very little going on in the south side of the armouth so Mark yeah thank you I want to thank you for your your work on this um would you have any objection if we just posted this for a 30-day comment to invite people to respond to the board or is there a sense of urgency in terms of making this decision there is a bit of a sense of urgency um the stone will require anywhere from 6 to 8 months to Brook year I see um the town of um Yarmouth I'm not quite sure of the exact date in June but I think it's June 26th 1776 where the town of Yarmouth declared independence and that's kind of like our timeline MH um we're very tight uh we were hoping to get an RFP out uh before Christmas um and then because there's a certain vetting process that could take a few months uh in getting it ready before town meeting if we miss this town meeting vote we're going to miss the timeline we'll have to come up with something else um but we're completely cognizant that people need to weigh in on this so uh so what's your answer I think nor I think normally there's some value in having you know a little bit of time to do further due diligence and to invite the public to speak to this but I I respect your concern as well that you know we're on a very tight time frame and that could be a problem so that's why that's why I asked you the question uh to get your guidance your recommendations um we're supposed to go in front of the CPC next week I see they required a location before they would make any got it you answered my question thank you Joyce um I think then that I would uh go along with Mr Kelly's View for the placement um and also with his timetable because it does seem we want to get this in as soon as possible and that there's this Cascade of deadlines that if the stone isn't ordered but we have to have the site so they can figure the design I I just picture us missing this annual town meeting and that would be a shame so let's hurry Liz I'm think it's going to be a a fabulous Edition I grew up across the street from a civil war monument in New Orleans and it it was such a part of my um upbringing and I don't think it matters a whole lot but maybe the side position only because the middle of the playground is more used and therefore it would be a little bit more in visible to the the children and they might be curious as to what this Monument is all about and it certainly was a part of my education because that's how I learned about the Civil War so Madam chair I'd like to move that the board of Selectmen uh Endor the recommendation of Thatcher Park AKA The yarmouthport Playground as the site for the uh Revolutionary War Monument second all in favor I I I any speciic specific point in the park where we can leave it to the I think we're basically following their recommendations we also we also think we're going to have to um get an approval from the oak Kings Highway and they might have some commentary a suggestion one way or the other understood as long as the park is the location we we can come up with that thank you thank you thank you very much thank you thank you for your diligent work it's going to be great it is assume we'll have Memorial Day Parade down 6A okay our next item on the agenda is a discussion vote for the proposed um for the native Land conser Conservancy conservation restriction for Simkins bog and I see some folks coming to the podium for us good evening my name is Kat G Foley I work for the compact of Cape Cod conservation trusts I'm here on behalf of the Native Land Conservancy as their representative in this really exciting project as many of you know uh the native Land Conservancy has come before you with a similar project um it was preserving 10 acres next to the parcel in question today and that was a couple of years ago where they um also granted a conservation restriction to the Yarmouth conservation trust and now we're in phase two which would be protecting the 9.12 Acres with an additional conservation restriction this property is a long 6A it has a lot of very impactful benefits including um a variety of different Wetland habitats we have a protection of Zone 2 um drinking water area it will help maintain water quality heading out to the chase Garden Creek Watershed this property is also recognized as ancestral homelands to the and that is why the native Land Conservancy felt compelled to protect this property and so we come before you uh we've gotten approval through the state department Depart of conservation services to proceed with this conservation restriction and we're hoping to record it by the end of the year okay any questions from the board uh Madam chair I just want to make a full disclosure um this is this is an organization that I've had a longstanding uh involvement with particularly in its founding so I just want to disclose to the rest of the members of this board that I I was very much involved in the founding of the Native Land Conservancy I know historically there's been an interest in the work I've done on behalf of the Wampanoag people and so I think where where I've had an an experience or a role or some some some some involvement with the organization I think it's important just to disclose that so um I just wanted to make that abundantly clear I support the request I think it's a wonderful It's a Wonderful proposal thank you any other comments um I just wondered if for our viewers you could just give a sense of where in the town this was was so they could kind of visually locate it absolutely so this property is along uh Route 6A right before we Road um it's tucked back behind the Martin farm um so just before the House of Pizza everyone will be able to place it now okay thank you well I think it's fabulous thank you thank you one of my favorite places to look at the deer they always deer there um in at dusk I'd like to sit there and watch them they're beautiful and the peepers thank you for your now he know when spring is coming I assume Town Council is Yes red the are there any other steps after this yes so after all of you sign and have that signature page notorized we send that up to the state and the Secretary of environment of the executive office of energy and environmental Affairs will sign off on it and once we get that back we'll be able to record it as soon as we receive it well thank you to those that uh had the foresight to put this parcel aside the native Land Conservancy um really created a nice relationship with Jackie Rivero who is the person that donated the land to them which is she genuinely felt like the organization had a lot to offer and wanted to give the land you know back in a cultural sort of way and so we're very fortunate that there are people out there that are true conservationists and want to protect land in perpetuity well many thanks to Jackie and Martin thank you very much I'll entertain a motion Madam chair I'd like to move that we uh approve and authorize the execution of the um conservation restriction for the native Land Conservancy on um the simin bogs 2 second any discussion all those in favor I I I it's a wonderful project we're glad to assist you with this onek you very much thank you and if we could just thank the people on um our local community preservation and elsewhere who worked so hard to make this happen thank you is there a signature page for us I think you signed it okay got it's in the did it's in the packet I think you signed it TR okay we would have ripped it you usually do but I think I think you were probably thinking ahead oh it's just that okay all right good y do we have present the people that we need to have here for the mortgage discharge request for no we don't I really need anyone here I can explain it what um this issue is it is a confirmatory discharge so what what that means it's it's actually a reissuance of a mortgage discharge that was issued in 2004 and and it was for a septic betterment loan um and what had happened is that the property owner failed to record the discharge so the lean stayed on the property then they passed away and the property sold and there's still a lean on the property and so uh we vetted this through our town council's office and got all of the official uh you know detailed records from The treasur Collector um and um it requires a second vote to reissue so that this time it can be recorded so this will be the second time we've issued a discharge for this purpose I see any questions from any of the um select board it was paid off and there's nothing to do paid off in full in that we um approve and sign the discharge of mortgage second any discussion all those in favor I I now you have your second vote okay moving on we have board and committee actions Joyce oh thank you um Madam chair I'd also like to note one that um has come in from the Yarmouth Housing Authority that their changing um that they would like to acknowledge uh with thanks Maryanne Walsh who was their representative uh to the community preservation committee uh and they have appreciated her service um they now would like to appoint to the community Reser preservation committee um Drew H Drew Krauss who's a Housing Authority representative uh currently um and uh uh I guess I just wanted to mention that because Maran Walsh because this originated with the Housing Authority didn't seem to be there but we're grateful for her her years of service Madam chair point of order um I'm following the agenda and the first thing item I I see is resignations of the zoning board of appeals yeah we have to go through the list in order Joyce so you start up at the top with resignation zoning board of appeals she's not listed here though right she's not I'm adding her because she's not listed um well if she isn't on the agenda I don't know that we can add her to the next we could we can't say a voluntary thank you even though she served on the Housing Authority we can take a thanks but you're I thought you were asking for us to accept a resignation without it being on the agenda oh we can thank her let let us thank her for her years of service good point do this in in a good way we can put this on the next meeting on December um 19th I don't think we need to cuz it's it's another their Authority that she resigns this is we have just a thanks okay okay um obviously we've noted um with large thanks the zoning board of appeals uh resignation of Steve D young we'd also like to accept with thanks uh the resignation of Lauren V from the recreation excuse me point of order Madam chair do we have to actually we normally would vote accepting a resignation yeah so I just think we should just follow procedure and follow just order right so I move I move that we accept uh the resignation of Steve D young I second that okay any any discussion all those in favor I I um the next appointment is Michael AAR no no we have Lauren Villa I'd like to make a motion that we accept the resignation of Lauren Villa second sorry okay discussion all those in favor I I I okay we're on to appointments now yes um um I'd like to bring up the appointment of Michael aern to the energy committee um for a three-year appointment January 1st 2025 to December 31st 20127 so moved second second discussion all those in favor I I I'd like to introduce the appointment of Paul Rooney as Municipal hearing officer um this dates are not given here so I think we're to assume that he serves until replaced is that a permanent or is it an annual Bob can't tell from the from the form let see um I think you should make it um a Time certain an annual appointment would be fine we could put it on how do usually the three-year appointment so that would be from January 1 2025 to January 1 2028 of its 3 years and just a question again another sort of point of information what what is the nature of the hearing officer position what hearings are being [Music] heard oh and there he is man of the hour timing is impeccable come on up Paul how are you good Paul how are you thank you hi good evening Madam chair members of the board I'm Mark GRS Building Commissioner Lieutenant met bur fire department um the the hearing officer is required by state law for us to enabling us to enforce certain sections of the State Building Code and state fire code so we can't issue tickets on any on certain violations which I have copies of here um unless we have a hearing officer which gives the public the right to appeal so that's their first right of appeal then it they I think they go to Superior Court from there um Mr Rooney was our choice we had one for many years and he just kind of fell off into the abyss so um I I appreciate the opportunity to sit here and and this this is actually a tool that was devised by the state um in as a result of the 2003 Station nightclub fire um they made a lot of changes to chapter 304 the acts of 2004 enabling us to have a little bit more enforcement Authority so we have another tool for enforcement that's great thank you for answering my question and thank you Paul for your interest in serving do I have a motion I make a motion we appoint Paul Rooney as the municipal hearing officer through 12:31 no 2007 2027 y second discussion all those in favor before we I just want to note that this will also be very well appreciated by o Kings Highway so this is a good help aid to the O Kings Highway as well okay all those in favor I I welcome Paul thank you thank you it's nice to see you all welcome back to see you tooo congratulations thank you thank you thanks and I'd like to introduce our final item tonight in board and committee actions um it's for a reappointment to the have the community pres Mission Preservation committee oh oh I I had done Drew CR before but we weren't we didn't consider that valid no we didn't no we didn't vote okay um I would like to uh introduce the um the appointment of Drew Krauss as the Housing Authority representative and Lee Hamilton as the community housing representative through do we know the dates the term um the dates are not on the uh appointment form I think they're uh one year term through 202 December 2025 that makes sense so moved second all those in favor I I now the reappointments okay we just have one um request for reappointment and that's to the old King's Highway committee John steuart as contractor architect I think we need to have some discussion on this one yes if I may Madam chairman okay please so um this had been uh sticking in my craw if you will for the last year because um John Stewart while he is a very respected and um well-known character in the historic group he is not a contractor uh professionally nor an architect and um it doesn't seem appropriate that the the position is outlined to be one of those and he is Nei and we have um possibly come up with a good solution which is um to make a motion I would make a motion to let uh John Stewart uh fill the position until we can find a contractor or architect as is uh required of us when we had discussion on this position for last year my understanding was that he is a contractor he's a boat builder well that's a contractor that is a contractor I think we were I I well I spoke with the chair of our committee today and we that we don't believe that that is a the kind of contractor that is required we are talking about homes and not boats in this capacity I mean I I I think it's always uh historically been that I'm just trying to figure out how he was appointed and why he if you're not going to considering why we put him on here as a reappointment not sure that's why I was glad to deal with it today because it's been a problem it's been inappropriate I think it it's all of the other positions are elected and I I do believe that that's an important part of the process and so to have him um appointed when he's not actually the character or the the qual the qualifications that he's being appointed for are are not his well I will leave it up to the appointments co-chairs to handle that and come back with a recommendation can we not a um move on the uh motion that I made well if we don't have a second if I don't understand this is where I have a problem if he's not qualified why would we be that's that's fine with me we were trying to kind of give the interim um option he served for a year until we find an appropriate replacement that was the motion we were considering but if you think it's just it's it's black or white he's not the appropriate person then we should not approve him that's fine Joyce Madam chair I think that that was done when Richard gagor was leaving um that he was left in place until a replacement could be found so I think this seems like that situation no actually he is replacing the architect um that's right Rick ventron Rick Rick ventron who was um in that position and resigned I'm aware of that Madam chair but uh Richard gwor was um in the contractor architect position prior to Richard Richard Von yeah for a while we were doing only Richards we did Richard and then we did um put in John I'm going to suggest that uh you both go back take a look at this and come back putting it on the agenda for our next meeting on um December 19th and coming in with a recommendation 19th or 17th December is it 17th 17th I'm sorry I got the wrong date from tonight okay we will do that then and that ends all our board and committee actions for tonight okay minutes of the November 19th 2024 meeting I move the minutes second discussion all those in favor I I I one exstension one abstention would be Liz you were not present for the meeting it's generally the not in my seat I was present but if I need to be on the board okay okay upcoming agenda review w we get a whole year there's a whole a whole lot well um there is a an addition on for December 17 I I met today with um Jeff Colby and and we'd like to have a Wastewater update on for the 17th um that's a good idea that's a very good idea and and also if possible an executive session um discussion for um real property um negotiations prior to the meeting and then in the public session or Wastewater update that's a great idea that is well well [Music] received we've got the C I think we have this on the agenda for a future date the green communities report um but if we need needed to move that because of Wastewater I do see it could be postponed by a meeting if we needed a big session on on waste water I think we need to give ample time to waste water okay under s 17th that and I think we need to make sure that we publicized that this is going to be a Wastewater update for that meeting looks to me like our agenda for the 7 is set believe it or not we then start looking at the New Year how about we just look at the month of January so reserve a little slot early for green communities yes green communities is one of like 25 items that we need to find a spot for we have a number of items that need to be found there's we've been kicking the can down the road on a dozen items does that mean we need a an extra meeting in January I'm I'm not sure no no we have we have meetings on January 7th and on January 14th listed and that meets our requirement of two meetings per month correct Bob yes that is correct okay so we're looking at the 7th and the 14th and as Stacy sorry Tracy says we do have a number of items um that are on our list the mass do update haven't we received something recently is there any way we can have them come and talk with us that was the station of study I think we got yeah right that's signed for January 7 it is on there I'm sorry I didn't see it there okay and the mes utilization committee how about if we take some of these items though off our list that we've been I just I just ask that you as chair when we have when you're setting the agenda if there's room that we start to try to move them up that's how it's always worked in the past like we shouldn't have to ask for them to be on there they're there because we've already asked so I would ask that you as chair try to put them on put them on when when there is time available we will do that okay does anyone have any other items that they want to add to the January 7th meeting I might I um Wonder out loud um communication Plan update can I I guess maybe first I should ask what is that entail what does that entail that's on um we had we had an update I I think a couple of months ago where our it team and the communications director um comes in and and discusses the updates to public Outreach issues it's always very helpful and we continue to expand those well I would just note from my experience as doing all of my meet and greets with 100 some odd people over the campaign the communications was a big subject of um focus for my the people that I spoke spoke with so maybe it has some weight from because of that and after our recent experience with the bog as well well one of the reasons why I like having the this agenda item coming on regularly is because communication is always challenging in an era where we're a News desert and there's very little coverage of news anymore on Cape Cod and in Yarmouth um the burden Lally falls on us that's to find a way to get good information out and you're right if you follow town meeting clearly there's a lot of misinformation and fake news that's out there and literally we're having a discussion about a topic in which you have groups of people working from a different set of facts and so that's a problem so it's incumbent on us as a board to periodically engage with our communication staff and find ways to make sure that find better ways oh we always have to be looking for improvements to our overall system that's just that's the reality of it and uh you know um so by periodically getting our Communications team before us to update us on what they're doing what new initiatives they might have get to get feedback from the board I think is incredibly helpful so I'm I'm insistent that this item be on our agenda at least once every 6 months yeah I guess I was thinking where are we talking about prioriti in anything or not I guess see that's the problem with it the problem the problem is we have the staff and the plans in place it's the you know we aren't involved in the micromanaging of what they choose to put out that's up to to staff and I think um you know so I think that I've heard their plan their plan's good they're utilizing all the all the platforms the question is you know how much saturation who who you know who's making the decisions as to what's getting put out how often it's getting put out um those are more administrative I think issues that um you know perhaps we can give more Direction on but in terms of the details of it we can't we we're not here to we're here to set policy we're not here to manage um what staff is doing so you know while we may not agree with it that's you know I think when we talk about our Communications plan I think we have to perhaps maybe better identify our expectations and hope that it's implemented it's not to me it's not the communications plan that we have that's an issue I think that they're doing a great job of putting things out it's not on them but it's it's it's really a a decision from administration of of what they're putting out how often and and when and how right so um platforms yeah I mean my my the reality is is that there's always room for improvement I mean I would argue I mean obviously we I'm not sure we should be having this discussion without it being an agenda item but there's a there's a fairly long list of things I'd like to see Improvement on and I'm anxious to see what they're working on what they're doing cuz they they've told us when they presented the last plan that they're going to be new initiatives and new things that they're working on so I look forward to hearing it let's let's hear what they're up to what they're working on and and to the extent that we as a board have some initiatives and ideas that they should be thinking about let's let's hear let's let them work on those and then come back in six months and let us know how they're doing so we'll kick off the air on January 7th with hearing how communication is going start with just following what's on TV Channel 8 right is there enough cont do you think there's enough content we can each one of us can do our own assessment of what we believe is strong and weak in terms of our overall communication bring that to January 7 exctly and you bring that to the meeting sounds mobel because they they want feedback Lori wants to hear from us Paul wants to hear from us a bottle Bill implementation would have been a great thing throughout the last six months or the plastic plastic actions yes I mean we learned that yesterday that it was well we also learned that we were supposed to be par some people thought we were supposed to be doing something you know so I'm adding that to just as a newbie adding it to my agenda so we'll be putting it on January 7th right okay and just to follow up on what Mark just said I think sometimes everything will be assumed to be something we ought to be doing if we're not clearly pointing it in a different Direction well you know I yeah I think I think on some of these things particularly on Communications um I hear the same thing in town yeah Communications yeah what are we doing how can we and the thing is it seems like the the news desert is getting worse better it is yeah there's sorry it's a little bit more of a discussion that yeah exactly so sorry why don't we hold this so that's the reason why some of us really want to make get get it to keep it on the agenda so I think we've got it on the agenda for January 7th hold those thoughts and we'll bring them to a that meeting and we'll publicize that that's coming up so people will have an opportunity and can I also say one of the reasons why I think the corridor study is very helpful with station EV is because of there's some expectation that we as a board need to have something to say about whether or not a new school uh is to be considered and studied on Station app and I think frankly some of us are already very concerned about the traffic volumes on station AV and so I think if we're going to have something to say on that topic it might be helpful to get some better information in terms of just how bad the traffic situation is and what kind of improvements are necessary and I've mentioned this before that I do think that the if if there is a study looking at the corridor what does it look like with another yet whatever it is the school committee is thinking about it would be nice to have that factored into their studies and get some analysis on that as well so the timing for that couldn't be any better so we be putting that on the January 7th agenda as well at least give them some guidance as to what we feel they should include in their study regarding the new schools and so forth the other item that I think I would recommend that we add to the list is a review of our goals and just a review with the administrator on our goals and progress on goals right I mean we got goals we print that out um and then we you know we we might want to just review the goals and how we're doing I think we need an update on the budget I think we need to start looking at the budget for the coming year Bob what's the um possibility of our being able to do that at January 7 we need a um budget meeting schedule actually budget meeting January 7 or the 14th one of those two days um a budget Workshop session so we're going to add it on January 7th then I think the sooner we get working on it the better you well we also need to work on a budget meeting schedule what what I think that part of the conversation that I would recommend the chair have with the administrator is what are the other budget meetings you know I can recall serving on this board where we spent a good chunk of January and February just getting budget discussions and hearing from the Departments and going over specific so um I'm expecting that that some point we'll be getting that so well for information of the board I happen to be meeting with the chairman of the uh finance committee this tomorrow morning to talk exactly about that putting together a schedule for the budget good okay well then working with Bob I'm assuming Bob's going to be in that meeting okay Bob will be part of that good I think that it might be in our best interest to um to have a really strong working relationship with the finance committee for this particular budget and to have a little more involvement by the finance committee than we have had in the past well with the communication Plan update the transportation Corridor and our budget um and review of our goals I believe we have a full agenda for the 7th very good so we're set if there are suggestions for the January 14th we can hold those for our next meeting unless anyone has anything in particular that they want to speak about today we might want to do the goals on the 14th um I'm just looking at some of these items might take a long time for the 7th especially when you get the the budget Workshop and everything going I certainly don't want to skimp on that so fine we'll move the bowl goals to uh January [Music] 14th are there any individual items that anyone wants to bring up today for me I'd like to um congratulate uh Liz on her election and to uh join with all my colleagues and welcoming welcoming her to the board and uh we look forward to working with you thank you Mark you that's what I was going to say thank you Tracy thank you thank you all welcome Liz thank you Dorcas okay any other items for today no ma'am I'll accept a motion for the consent agenda so move to canect can I ask that we hold or we take out the amusement 2025 Amusement license from the consent agenda and move the rest of it please s so say that's Item B [Applause] right it's the one you want held the 2025 annual Amusement license renewal list if we could just remove that from the consent agenda and that's currently item so I will move the consent agenda items a c d e and f and g okay so it's okay do I have a second on that second okay discussion all those in favor I I I okay discussion on approval of the 2025 annual Alcohol and Other annual license renewals Tracy well we just moved everything but the right the amusement license so if some else I need to abstain from that piece so that's why I did that bingo so I'll move to uh approve item number B on the consent agenda second all those in favor I I abstain we have one abstention and four in favor administrator updates I do have a few items I wanteded to bring the board up to speed on um first you we talk talked about the budget Workshop session on January 7 that'll be very timely right now our budget process is ongoing um it's uh of course a tremendously dense process it takes a um a great deal of time I appreciate um everyone's you know patients during this time it's a little bit of an overwhelming process but we're ongoing with that process we're into it maybe um second week or so meeting with every single Department um scouring all the budgets um and I I I do want to acknowledge our finance director um Jen Mullen she's doing a great job and I've got her involved with me directly also bringing in um you know some strong representation with the finance committee and in in those meetings so we'll be ready um I'll have a budget recommendation by the end of this month um we'll have all of that material to and then we'll start with the the budget Workshop sessions and you know we should probably talk about in in recent years we've gone away from having um all of the budget hearings in front of the select board uh we review the entire budget and then maybe a couple of the select bigger departments but you'll have to um decide whether you want to spend you know your time going over every budget um usually the process is we have the the finance committee meets with every single department just like I do and having a third series of hearings in front of the select board it's it's optional for you but that's something that we've been trying to get a little bit away from um it you know it creates that triple budget review it's a um you know something that we've been trying to avoid I so I think um you know maybe having those discussions with the finance committee taking a look at the overall budget and decide in who you want to meet with any the problem is that the the problem is with that is I think the public needs to hear the get the questions I mean there was a point in time where not only did we meet with all of the Departments we also had a pre-own meeting where we would go over the entire budget with all the department heads because you know it had less confusion in a town meeting because we had all of it in public yeah that's a great that's a great idea I just you know I think the the idea that that we do a detailed review of every single budget independently um I I think you know the best thing to do start with the overall budget workshop and we'll go right through every line item and I think we'll try to have it for that even that um you know start off meeting we'll have all of the Departments here and um you see what questions and then you can decide how many of them you want to have separate hearings on well that's exactly what we did last year we did that last year we had a overview big picture discussion we went through a number of items and then we decided as a group that there were some departments that we needed to get before us to go over in detail so after we did that uh we had a a more definitive um set of meetings with departments and uh I think I tend to air on the side of doing more than less um you know it's like a town meeting I I will insist again that we provide more information than less than trying to abbreviate everything um you know I think we owe it to the voters to explain in detail and as much transparency as possible what we're doing with their money and uh I know some people like to Breeze through these things but from my point of view I think it's It's Our obligation to to make sure that our voters have access to as much information as possible and um if some folks are you know tired of hearing us going over budgets with departments well that's tough they can just change the channel you know or go to zoom or go to Netflix or whatever but I just think that that there's a base I thought the process that we had last year was good um and I think we should continue it sets the game plan perfect so um budget process we're we're working on and and again the rest of this week and next week we'll be continuing those budget meetings I have an update for you on the mass school building Authority uh we did just receive news that it looks as if the msba um wants to accept the EM small school for our feasibility study um I received today um a note from the superintendent of schools to that effect and there's a a zoom meeting on Friday to get more detailed information with the SBA so I'll get that information and bring it back to the board at at your next meeting and um we'll go from there but that was a a big pie piece of news I have a question on that Madam chair mhm um do do we have any further intelligence that they're going to insist on a sort of a pre sort of pre-ordained outcome on this or do we think that there's a real there's a real interest in looking at you know it it it depends how cynical of an answer that that you want you know I I think let's just look at this situation very clearly okay um you know I we've all dealt with you have a lot of experience with the SBA I also have a lot of experience dealing with the state agency over many many years um I will say it has been my personal experience is that the um Mass School building um Authority is extremely opinionated as to what they feel would be beneficial and um my uh feeling is that sometimes they overstep their boundaries um in terms of their they're an agency that is there to distribute these State funds to assist the local municipalities and that it is the decision of the local municipalities of what type of school is most appropriate for that jurisdiction the msba will come in and try to throw their weight around I do not feel that they have the authority to do that but they will Express their opinions in no uncertain terms they tend to be very um you know the I I guess the the executive director they're they're almost larger you know than life with the figures that they come in and and express like well you know um you need to to fall in line and um I I don't feel that that's the case so I think what what you can expect is you can expect the mass School building authority to make every attempt to try to get the biggest school out of this jurisdiction that they can talk you into but I think um when we go into this process matters we we need to understand that and and I think what the most important thing to do is for the local officials and now this is the select board and the school committee members to have these discussions first before we start this feasibility study that that says look we know that the school building authority will try to get us to build the biggest school we can but um our feelings are that um you know we don't want to take on another $150 million project right now but I but I think you know these things you know we should talk about I I do not feel as if this agency has the authority to direct you and say you know that that they're not going to fund you unless you go this a big huge school I think the idea is to um we agreed right that we would look on a number of options at the consolidation and I think that that's all that they can insist that we include that on our list but as far as decision I I think that's why we need to communicate with the school committee folks beforehand so that everyone knows going into it that look we expect the SBA to try to manipulate us into a bigger School than we think that that we should have so I hope that kind of covers that issue it it is one that the community has to have leadership and and we have to get together with school school and town and and be able to control the process because that's a lot of times that's what happens is the school and the town don't communicate well the SBA comes in talks to them independently and then pushes you into a direction yeah I I mean I'm glad you're saying that because that that that's that's a that's a essentially what happened last time and I think what you're hearing is we don't want to go through that again um had we been on top of the feasibility study had we been on top of some other things I think and we're getting and and I'm glad you're engaged in this because you know in hindsight you know we probably should have been more engaged before um but here we are so they do have predetermined conclusions they do have and I think we have to be like you said we have to be in tandem with the school committee and but I we're also going to have to be pretty aggressive with them and make it very clear with our legislators that we have certain expectations on the outcomes of this we want a we want a real study not not not something that's pre-ordained from the very beginning and then we find something shoved down our throats and I we the legislators need to make that very clear as well we all it's not only just us but they need to be part of this conversation because they're going to be the ones that uh are going to be in the best position to help us get what we want um cuz they'll listen to them I mean that that's that's been pretty obvious so um rather than than us asking them to do almost The Impossible at the last minute let's make sure that they're in on this discussion and they're aware of what our where we want to go with this so um I guess the answer is yes they do have a predetermined uh position so we need to weigh in strong opinions yes we need so we definitely need to weigh in so when is this going to be on our agenda next did you say um I don't know it depends on there's the meeting with the SBA is on on Friday it's a zoom meeting I'm I'm going to get the link if and if somebody wants to sit in with me on that um I'm more than happy to um have the um company uh but like I say I just found out about the meeting um today and I think it's you know it's great news but like I say with um any opportunity like that it's a huge responsibility and it is a challenge working with these things I mean some communities move ahead and do their feasibility on their own right so they don't have you know but I I I've done it um you know with SBA and and I think the the key is communication with our colleagues in the school and um the only thing I I can tell you from my end I've been communicating very strongly with the superintendent of schools on this and I feel that we're on you know the same page we'd like to have those resources here to assist us in you know whatever decision is made but um the the idea of you know building this giant Regional School is you know nothing that we want to bite off right now no matter whose opinion that it would be good to look at well may I ask a question Madam chairman sure so how does Dennis get pulled into this as well town of Dennis from when you're saying that we need to be proactive pull ourselves together with the school committee and and Dennis as well no that um the idea is that they would look at consolidating the Station Avenue Elementary School with the Margaret e small school in creating one Mega school right so that would be the um the big the big issue and so it's the school committee but we so we we entrust the school committee to make sure that Dennis's is is actively engaged in this as well well we want to participate in in this process right have have the select board representation working with the schools this is a uh yarmus school so when we when we entered into the feasibil it's not Dy Dennis Yarmouth Regional it's a Yarmouth Elementary School Dennis has their Elementary School at um Baker very good that's my misunderstanding okay and I also want to make sure that we have their understanding that we can be looking at alternative buildings that already exist in town before we look at building a multi-million dollar structure I mean we have Lawrence MacArthur school that's sitting over there that was an elementary school and whatever we would have to do to to arrange to be able to use for instance that location versus our commitments to other agencies um I I think we need to really look at that I mean why would we be going out and spending Millions we already have an elementary school in our town that isn't being used by the by the school yeah no we've had this conversation before yeah and that's the thing is is that they're as as when you when you Liz when you look at the budget numbers and look at the debt and look at's and look at some of the projections I mean we're going to be using so much debt with Wastewater right that our ability to finance other new buildings is going to be very challenged um new school facilities new library just talk about a police I mean I mean look at all the projects that are sort of sort of in the queue and financially it's just devastating to the town so to be forced into building something that's well in excess of what we can afford or what we what we maybe even in terms of what we need when as Dorcas said we've got other buildings and properties here that could be maybe repurposed um and one has to even ask the question you know I mean we we have a middle school that we have a reuse committee looking at I mean how does this conversation fit into that right so um I I think as the years going on and the taxes continue to go up I think the voters have every right to expect from us you know a penny pincher approach I agree uh to our finances and I think the state needs to understand that you know we're going to fight tooth and nail on behalf of the taxpayers of the town of Yarmouth to make sure that we're prudent and very fiscally responsible in terms of how we spend our money so this whole thing is just scary to me and the idea that here we are it's going to be like here we go again where you know the the state and others sort of run off on their own that's one of the things I think that we need to do is meet with the school committee as soon as possible I think we need to have a joint meeting I've been saying that for a while for a lot of issues but um you know if we're accept into this and we move forward I think that we definitely all need to be on the same page do it right away yeah I'd like to participate Friday great I'll get together with you there there's a link there and my last item I just wanted to let folks know this kind of ties into with the communication thing we've got the whole team gearing up on um our route 28 waste water work um is ramping up over the next several weeks um they'll be having um you know more details more um detours and um you know we're working with the website with the Facebook with the ways with the business Community um getting our our new um budsman person um working to to go up and down the street but um so there's a lot ramping up on the Wastewater construction and the communication pieces surrounding it so um look for those and if you you know any feedback that you get um ideas suggestions or or if there's people that you know have issues or concerns uh you know we want to work with them directly so but I just wanted to let folks know you know we're going to be seeing a little bit of a ramp up with some additional detours um as the construction goes and you know I think this is the time of the year to try to get as much done so um when it gets to be the spring it's not a another Mad Dash but um we'll also be able to talk about that next week um a little bit when we have our Wastewater update very good that's it for tonight okay I just have one last item um for the for the Town Administrator I I know that on Monday it was his birthday so I just want to make sure that we we can all wish Bob a happy birthday and thanks for spending your birthday with us thank you very much wouldn't want to happy birthday Bob what a birthday present we gave you too I just so I'm I'm a little clearer on when you are talking about going to meet with the select board with Tracy and yourself is that something that we would all hear know that there's a an a meeting and a date on the select board um well what I know is that um the superintendent of schools got a call from the SBA and they've indicated that um they are leaning towards accepting this is an appliation we had a previous meeting with the school department where it was authorized to make this application so we made the application and then um so the the SBA has set up a zoom call yeah with um the school officials for Friday superintendent invited me and I indicated um it's not a posted meeting of the select board but no I guess what I was talking about is your meeting Tracy and yourself with the school board with the school committee is that separate the school committee is what we're take I ask that we have a joint meeting which would be both full board that's what I'm talking about no it would be that'll be right here and how would I know about it that's what I'm at post it on our agenda very good post it on the agenda yeah it'll be at a it'll be at a select board meeting oh okay so we'll we'll have that and and we won't have any meetings that um you don't know about and you know that's one thing that we're really good about that is will uh we try to keep the board members informed uh totally about all you know major meetings and when members of the board of Selectmen or a select board have these meetings we like to put them on an agenda at a select board meeting okay good thank you and work hard at doing that yeah and as far as I'm concerned one of the reasons why it's helpful to have these assignments is like I know that now Tracy is the Dy person so if there's school stuff going on I'm going to be looking to her and all I care about is if there's a call would the state and it's about the schools if she's on it I'm fine and then we'll get a report when it's time so that's the value of having these assignments I as a member of the affordable housing trust um there's a lot of stuff going on that I'll just get information about but when there's something that I think the Board needs to be aware of I mean it's incumbent on me to share that with the board to let you as a as an entire board know what's going on on that score there are lots of interesting things going on um and that's it's one of the reasons why we just divide up all the work like this speaking which unaffordable housing has there been any information coming out about Forest Road I'm not aware of anything still they they filed with the state as I understand it is that correct Bob I don't know what what any new filings I I you know they they've been working with the state for two years now and um I I haven't seen um anything new um but um the you know the one thing that I would mention is that you know now that there is the um madaky utilization committee I've been outreached and and we have on the affordable housing trust to have a a joint meeting of the um local housing agencies to um determine if it's feasible to put together um a housing component um for consideration at the madaky's property and um now one of the things that we have to talk about um I think that's one of many things yeah do we do we um Outreach the housing authority and um you know we've sort of been almost at odds with them over the disagreements over the Forest Road uh property but um you know do we pull them in and and start talking about you know what their intentions are and and whether there's feasibility of of doing something is there a better spot is is um madaky worth considering is it a potential alternative um all of these issues um they're going to have to come to a head we can't you know let them just sit out there forever and I'm all in favor of bringing it to a head as long as you know it's something that the select board wants to do if I may Madam sh I met with Mary wagens uh as part of my due diligence and after reading the the uh housing production plan and I was in my my amazed at that body of work it's really something and um she's a stellar individual what a great staff person to have and I would agree that I think it would be good to bring the her and the house housing group in because yeah I think it's again it's working together is going to be more advantageous well Rel related to that has I I read the memo that bill put together sort of outlining the overall approach in terms of the madaki school reuse and um I'm very comfortable with that because there have been questions about the committee and should some others be added on to it and whatever um and I I would highly recommend recommend looking at that closely because Bill's sort of laying out a game plan in terms of how to look at this project and one of the one component of it is is to ask individual groups to come in with their ideas their recommendations their thoughts about what could be potentially be done there can you forward that to me Mark would that be appropriate well absolutely I thought everyone had it anyways and remember this I I think one of the reasons to to kind of bring it up is that this is coming up on the agenda very soon and and you know it's almost I think they you know we need a little Direction on is it okay to um you know start using our influence to try to guide some of these groups you know like the housing authority to um potential success um is that possible is that something that that we want to do is that something that we want to um leverage this whole utilization framework to to try to get those discussions rolling just something to think about I believe that memo memo lays out the committee framework and approach okay great and it's generated some discussion surprise great does anyone have any other items for this evening no mam chair I move to adjourn second all in favor I I meeting is adjourned thank you