This conference will now be recorded. >> I got six o'clock. We'll call the meeting in order. We'll start the pledge of allegiance. Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> I just need adoption of the agenda. >> Make a motion to adopt the agenda. I'll second that. >> Any further discussions? All in favor? >> I
>> oppose. Passes 5 0. We'll open the public comment portion. Uh individuals may address the city council about any item of concern. Speakers must state their name and limit the remarks to three minutes. Any public comment portion?
I will close the public portion and I will go to consent agenda. All items listed in the consent agenda are considered routine by council and will be approved by one motion. There will be no separate discussion on these items unless council member requests in which the case will be item will remove from
the consent agenda and be considered in its normal sequence of agenda. >> I'll make a motion to approve the consent agenda. >> I'll second. >> Uh any further discussion? All in favor? I >> oppose. Passes 500. Accounts payable.
Fred. >> Okay, it's pretty self-explanatory on the big items are the water meter project that's going on 102,000 workman's comp looks like it was due and then the am air ambulance was due.
Um inspection fees was 11,000 that went to safe build I think that was two invoice that came down and checked on it. was an invoice for December and then one late in the fall that I don't know didn't get sent or did. So that's
why that's so high in the winter here. Any questions? I'd make a motion to pay the counts payable of $34,7328. >> Second. >> Any further discussion on that council? >> All in favor?
>> I >> oppose. Passes 500. Thanks, Brad. >> Uh we will jump down to a new business. Uh ordinance 2603 2024 Bridgeview Apartments Reszoned. Miles. Thank you, mayor and councel. Uh,
so this ordinance is kind of an odd one. It's with our Bridgeview Apartments building, but it's actually memorializing the reszone that we did in 2024, which we never had a resolution or ordinance actually binding it, binding our council decision. So, this is basically the same thing you saw on
April 18th, 2024. Um, that was approved on a 4 to1 vote. Um, but we were in the process of changing attorneys at the time, so it kind of slipped a little through the mud. Um, and so we are just doing it now to make sure that there's a
binding document for, you know, title reasons so there's no issues in the future with this property. Um, and kind of covering the city's back a little bit as well, too. >> I'll make a motion to approve ordinance 20263.
I'll second. >> Do you feel any discussion? >> All in favor? >> I >> oppose. >> Passes 32. Thanks, Miles. Uh, let's jump down to uh 6B, ordinance
202604, Bridgeview Apartments Land Sale Reszone. >> Myers, >> thank you, mayor, councelor. >> Uh, again, this is this is the other third parcel that is part of this project. Again, kind of in a weird one because there's three separate parcels for this chunk of land. Um, so you can
see kind of on uh I guess I didn't attach the map, but there's this third sliver that's where our parking went um which is the city owned land um that we sold to Keller Barman um properties in December in 2025 for a price of $3,600.
Um because a portion of the building will be on that land, they need all three parcels to complete the project and we're selling them and reszoning it to PUD so that they can actually construct over all three parcels. Um they need will need to still get their
lots combined to do this, but that will be on the developer next. Um so planning commission uh voted to approve this on a 4 to1 vote uh last week in February 10th and so we're going to bring it to forward to council tonight. Any
questions on Miles on the reszone? I think it's all pretty much legality stuff that we're cleaning up right now. So, >> make a motion to adopt ordinance number 202644. >> I'll second.
>> Any further discussion? All in favor? >> I I passes 32. Thanks. Uh we'll jump to 6C. Bridgeview Apartments site plan approval. The mile show. >> Thank you, Mayor and Council. Uh, as part of the Bridgeview Apartments uh,
project, we are bringing forward the site plan approval letter from our city engineer, Bill Angerman. We had these site plans uh, conditionally approved by him as you can see in August. U, we just been holding on to them because sometimes plans change. They've been part of the building permit process
right now. So, uh, we're just bringing that letter for you tonight. Uh you may wonder why they're not in there, but that's because they're also doing the building permit right now. And it's possible some of these things may change. That doesn't mean that the conditions change at all. Uh and as part of this letter, most you can see that
it's a conditional approval. Most of these conditions haven't been satisfied at this point. I think the only one we were still waiting on was maybe the right of entries. Uh but that's up to the business owners and the development. That doesn't really change the process of the site plans at all. It's just whether or not there's going to be a new
paved alley back going back there as well. >> So, this letter came from Angerman, right? >> Yes, that's correct. >> So, there's a list of nine things or seven things, whatever. what's done and what isn't done off of
this that was dated the 26th of August 2025. >> What was done on that date or just now? >> This letter was sent to us. >> Yes. >> What is done and what is not done? The list that is on here. >> The only thing that has not been done is
7B which is the alleyway easements or right of entry permissions. Everything else has been satisfied and completed by us and most of it is administrative approvals for the most part anyway. Um, that's the only one that hasn't been done. And that one really is more of up to the property owners themselves
because they don't have to agree to do that, but that just means they don't get a paved alleyway in their property. >> They don't get their portion of the alley. So, they would have to stop at the property line and cut it and then the old pavement would remain up to up to the So, there's two of them left to
be signed, I believe. And that is not because that was only because they didn't make it to the meeting. >> Yeah. >> Where they were signed. >> And for these site plans, we held an open house with all the adjacent plan uh land owners and business owners. So they got to see the site plans as well. And Bill Angman, Andy, Andy Bartman were
here to explain that as well as their engineer. I think Johnson Scoffield was here. Um and so they explained everything to them and brought those right of entry letters, but not everyone was there. So um they kind of had to track people down as well. So that's kind of the hold up on that too.
>> You know, is there seven? I was saying there's five. >> Okay. >> So two of them are still left to sign. >> Yes, I believe so. I Yeah, I haven't been up on that one, but yeah. >> So on that site plan, you I mean on the
last time or the property, you said they had drawn part of the building on city property anyway. Yep, that's correct. >> And that was done from original. >> It wasn't originally that way, but somewhere along the line, the
engineering firm had done that and we caught it. And that's kind of why all this that's why we ended up selling the land to them and kind of doing all this stuff like the reasonzoning too because we weren't aware of that at the time. But it was not in the original site
plans that you saw back in 2024 or even early 2025 when I first began. Um somewhere along the line the engineers had changed that. We don't really know where. Um but it kind of happened and then we adjusted from there. Our engineers caught it. Bill Ingramman
caught it and was able to inform us so that we were able to make the correct decisions for council >> and then because that alley is going to be a oneway now, right? >> Yes, that's correct. >> Who who makes that decision to change that? >> Good county made that choice. >> Well, that was an option.
>> It's a condition. It was a condition um of approval from Goodyu County um engineering on on basically the driveway or the uh the out the in and out of the parking ramp below uh basically separation
distance. >> Which way is a oneway and uh exiting? Third. >> Yeah. Which the main >> and it's all part of the approval uh of the site plans and all that. It'll be regraded, so it won't be that severe
um climb. I saw a semi hung up there the other day again. Well, a few weeks ago, but we won't have that anymore. It'll be all new, all paved, all orderly back there. New parking. Um
yeah, completely cleaned up. Motion to approve the site plans. Is that right? >> Correct. >> I will make that motion. >> I'll second. >> Any further discussions? All in favor? >> I oppose.
Passes three to two. Brain fart. Uh let's do a 6D Bridgeview Apartments development agreement. Miles. >> Yes. Thank you, Mayor and Council. This is the final thing for this uh Bridge View Apartments on this council meeting. Um and hopefully at all that we'll have to deal with. Um, but over the last few
months, we've been working on negotiating and creating this development agreement, which will inform our construction process on this development and will have our the correct fees that the developer needs to owe the city as part and what their responsibility is to the city while
they're constructing um during this project. And so, I've attached the finalized agreement that we came to uh for your uh guidance and discussion. Um, a few items of note. Again, I also remind you that the first building didn't have a development agreement at
all. So, I think having one at all on this one is a really good sign, too. Um, but to make a couple of uh points that we we came to that there's a two-year warranty on our public improvements um that will bind the developer to paying for themselves if there was an issue
within that two-year gap. Um, we would then if there was an issue, the city would pay for it up front, but we would assess them the cost difference. So, they would still pay for it. It would just be upfront cost for the city, but would be repaid by the developer in time
as well. Um, the alleyway parking, which council had requested remain open to the public, will be open to the public on a first come, first- serve basis. Still serving the residents of the building, too, but it's open to all like council was asking for originally. So, we were
happy that we were able to get that as part of the agreement. Um, the city has no cost really at all with this project at all. We don't pay anything. This is all the developers responsibility. It's their responsibility to pay for public improvements, which are estimated to be
around $80,000. Um, the city has no obligation or cost to do these public improvements if the if the developer were to default. Um, and you can see that in agreements as well. Um, so yeah, I'll open it up to questions on development agreements.
>> Any questions on that? >> I know there's been talk about how close they are to the culver. I had people approach me if we have to redo that culvert sometime. What I mean, how close how close is it to the culvert?
>> I don't I don't know that answer. I don't know, Brian. >> A portion of it is real close, right next to the culvert. Um, but um, we build that culvert from the inside out. Basically, they need to be the foundation needs to be below the culbert. So, you don't put any imposed
lateral loads on the culbert. Um, but as far as, and this was discussed real early on, too, where does there need to be a 30-foot easement or something like that to get equipment in there? And um talking to our engineers and their engineers and everybody's engineers, they said no, we uh we don't build them
that way. They can be maintained from within that space. Is that your understanding, Jeff? >> Y is that I mean, do we have any protection if we're doing that cover and something happens to that building? >> If something happens to the building
when we're redoing it, I mean, you're going to bring heavy equipment in there. There's Yeah, maybe some shoring. Yeah, it's all part of the construction process, but um liability if if they damage the culvert, of course, would be on them. Um
>> and if we're back in there rebuilding the culbert culvert, yeah, I would assume there'd be some responsibility. Mike Flity, are you able to chime in on responsibility if uh if and when we have to well when we have to repair that culvert? If we do some damage to their building, uh who's how's that liability
generally work? Um, thank you, Mayor and Councel. Uh, I think if it's I'm not quite understanding the question. If it's during construction, so the the public improvements are very small in this project. They're about
$90,000 and so they would have to install those improvements and complete the construction and they would be responsible. I think I think what the council member is asking though is what if four years from now, you know, or you
know, in the future if there was damage um that I don't know that that I don't think is covered by the development agreement, that's what he's asking. But if it's during the construction, you know, before the city engineer certifies or or signs off on the improvements,
they would be responsible under the development agreement. if it's years later and we're saying that that covert needs to be reconstructed or fixed um you know I don't think that that circumstance is covered by the this
development agreement or any of the approvals giving um but I think that's a plan for like that's an issue for the construction plans that you just approved you know I think it's got to be designed in a way where it won't that won't happen and the city engineer should review that and
approve that um so that's and that's kind of a long-winded answer. Is that answer the question? Sorry, I don't know. I don't know your voices, so I don't know who's who's speaking, but um >> No, I was just asking say 10 years down
the road we do the covert and something happens to the building, who's responsible for the building, city or I was just looking should we have should we have protection in here for being in so close to the culvert? So you're
saying the opposite if if the city the city reconstructs the culvert and damages the building >> correct >> being that it's so close I would just >> Yeah. Well that that wouldn't be covered by this agreement. I mean the city is obviously liable for damage they cause to private property anytime we do a
public improvement project. Um that goes without saying. I mean we have to you know you know fix fix land private property we damage. So whether whether or not it will be a problem or is likely to be a problem is more of an engineering question. I don't know. Um
probably depends on how close it is and and that maybe Bill couldn't speak to it. I don't know. Um but yeah, I mean we anytime you do any any public improvement project, a road reconstruction project or anything, you know, we have to fix private property that we damage. So whether it will be a
problem, I don't know. Maybe maybe somebody else or Brian answered that already. Yeah, it shouldn't be a problem, but there's always a chance. Um, it wouldn't be a loading problem because the the lateral loads on how they're going to work and the amount of soil between the
building and the the culvert, there's not going to be an issue with that. It would be something where, you know, if they swung a piece of equipment, hit the building on the outside, chance that that might happen. Yeah, I would say that uh the city would probably be liable at that point. >> Yeah. Then you have insurance. I mean,
you have L your LMCIT coverage and I I I mean, I know that that's part of your within the scope of your coverage if you check your coverage guides. So, you're covered by insurance, but you're responsible paying. Yes. I mean, you can't damage the building if you're going to do a project like that. >> But I would assume if it's the
contractor doing the work hits the building, it would be their problem and not the city's problem. Correct. >> Of course. Of course. You have performance and payment bonds and you have um security instruments as part of your construction. contracts with your general contractor and your subcontractors.
Um, and ultimately the city there's waiverss in those contracts, waiverss of liability, and they have to have insurance to the TOR Claims Act. That's the city the responsibility for your insurance and they would have to agree to indemnify us and hold us harmless and
and list the city as a named insured and you would make a claim under that. You know, if you're hiring a third party contractor, if it's the city city and they're doing some work and they damage it, I think you're you're just stuck with your LMC it coverage probably. >> Yeah.
>> And it looks like the closest that the building hits the one corner is about eight or 10 feet from the culver and then it angles off. So eight or 10 feet right at one corner where the point is and then quite a bit more in both
directions. >> Yeah. Ultimate ultimately this is your your engineer needs to review their plans and and approve them approve the the developer's plans as as sufficient and meeting legal standards or not. And if they're building too close to a
culvert that would be an engineering issue and they wouldn't be able to do that. But I assume Bill would be okay with what they're building or or it would come up before now. >> Yes. Yeah. We had the discussion way back at the beginning as well and with the engineers uh that way not
necessarily the other way where if we're in there repairing later um our liability but yeah I think to answer that question yeah if we damage a building we're liable u you know the contractor and the city so
>> did I understand you correctly that there is going to be some rework done on the culbert in the construction process No, >> no, >> nope. They're not touching the culbert. Nope. >> Nope. And the culbert's really good right now. Um, we talked to Jess
from the county on that too to get some projections. Uh, you know, we were talking about that and it's filling up with silt, but that's normal. And there was a whole bunch of discussion and one of the things was the condition of the culvert and it's really good. So, I
don't envision it's going to be touched for a long time, but eventually it will have to be. that are pre-cast number sections in that area that turns it were actually formed and board. So it's it's pretty robust to that area as it turns and
comes across second street and then again to the like like we say with the design the footing is I believe at least the thickness of the footing below the base of that or the collar itself. So that way when you do a project you remove it that you're not
add the depth of that basement foundation to the to the apartment itself. >> Correct. Yep. >> All work is done higher higher elevations. >> I didn't see anything about snow. Is there a We just do a snow removal in that alley once it's all done the same
as we do. We do we do the alley and they they take care of the parking then. >> Yep. when we spoke they were going to treat it the same way as they do their other one. We move. We do our alleyway. They do their parking in there. >> I think it may be sitting there, but I guess the alley will stay open through
the whole construction, right? >> Um, not necessarily. Part parts of it. It's going to depend on they're going to be bringing a crane in there at different points and yeah. So, there'll be times in that alley will be
restricted for sure. Of course, when they rebuild the the slope. uh on the one end. It'll be closed for a while. Then >> I think they're going to try and utilize the slanted parking across from Neielson's for a lot of staging
construction. It's >> what they did last time too, right? On their other building. >> Yep. Yep. And then the the it is spelled out in here that the um um cars for the workers, they'll they'll go park in a
public lot, not take up uh Neielson's parking or we had some of that last time. They were parking right in front of the uh the businesses and and the general contractor took care of that pretty quickly. So So that is addressed as well.
Can't remember where you at. If you had a motion yet. >> No. >> Make a motion to approve the Bridge View Apartment Development Agreement. >> Second. >> Any further discussions? All in favor?
>> I oppose. >> Passes three to two. Thanks, Miles. Uh resolution 2026 06 conditional use permit 910 West 2nd Street. Uh Miles,
>> thank you Mayor Council. Uh so tonight bringing you from planning commission uh and approval for a conditional use permit at 910 West 2nd Street. This permit is going to be used to install a manufactured home on the lot while the primary uh primary building receives
major repairs. the manufactured home will not encroach setbacks as far as I'm aware uh within residential zoning code. Um and I was under the impression that uh manufactured homes must require a conditional use permit uh within
residential zoning. However, we Mike and I had some discussions earlier today as well with Brian that we are not entirely sure if that is the case or not. I was using uh section three of our zoning code, which is general district provisions, which has a provision in
there that states manufactured homes are only allowed in RH districts, which are for mobile trailer parks, um or where a conditional use permit or variance has been granted as set forth and regulated by this ordinance. However, our interpretation
is that possibly that our zoning code doesn't explicitly list a manufactured home as a conditional use. And so we think that it's totally possibly okay under zoning ordinance. Um, so we still
have some possible problems because if that were the case too, then they might have to meet our regular building performance standards, which has a plethora of other restrictions and regulations just like any zoning code has and uh building code has as well.
Um, so I I gave you uh what what they brought the Hennings brought today to to look at for what they were planning to put there. um kind of opening up for discussion, but we uh are possibly not looking to have an approval at this time right now while we kind of sort out
possible details of what our zoning code is okay with, what is okay under state law even as well. Um so possibly looking forward at a March 5th council meeting for having some more time for us to kind of discuss as staff. >> I have a couple questions.
I I have a couple questions without knowing very little what's going on here is one, why do we need a mobile home or a manufactured home there right now? Because my question is, is anybody living in that in them two properties
that are being worked? And what is the projection of the remodel or what's this property going to be used for is the first two questions. Because my question would be if there's nobody living in this property that we're remodeling, why do we have to put a manufactured home on
that property if there's nobody living there now? So that that's kind of my two questions and and if council has more questions, we'll kind of let you speak on that and then we can go from there. >> Sure. Um, my name is Justine L and um, Matt and I are here
approved the condition for manufactured um, home on 910 West Second Street. And the reason that is is um, Matt and I currently rent and the land owners um, want to do something different with the
property. So, um we have our realtor has shown us many many um different homes and all that is within our budget are, um fixerupters and in need of much work. Um so that led us to moving into the
manufactured homes. I'd love to cross these out. I I only have two. >> Oh, awesome. Awesome. Thank you. Thank you. Um so yeah that led us to um you know looking at manufactured homes. >> So sorry to interrupt. So current so
currently right now >> you're living somewhere else >> and it's not going to work. You're whoever owns the property or so you're forced to leave and you want to put a manufactured home on here while you're doing >> Yes. I just want to make sure I'm clear. Perfect. Perfect. >> To answer your questions, I'm sorry. Um,
no one is living in in the buildings that are there right now. And um, I forget your other question. >> What I mean, what's the idea or the the function of these property that you're going to renovate? I mean, are you building a home, a rental property, >> right? Um, ultimately, yeah, our goal
is, you know, well, getting this the putting a manufactured home puts us in the position to be able to afford to renovate the building that is there and make it livable. um be it for us or possibly selling to make it a home for
someone um you know our age being you know I understand that this is a contingent on a 10 year you know the condition has already been set by the planning committee that it's a 10year um deal hopefully we'd be there at that time
that it would be liveable um you know that that would be plan um but um >> the one quick not sorry to interrupt Yep. >> When you say a 10-year plan, what's a 10-year plan? I'm lost on what you mean by what's the 10-year plan? 10-year plan of having the mobile home there to get
that property completed or >> Correct. Well, and according to LA the last meeting that we had with the planning committee um that the uh the conditional use permit, they agreed that it would be reviewed at 10 years. So,
that we have it in our heads that yes, we'd like to have it well as much done. I we don't have anything written out because we don't have any numbers or anything like that. Um but we do have know that we'd have with the ability to afford this money to put towards the
building to rehab it and to renovate it. So um and I know that you know we have that 10-year uh condition on that to review I guess by city council and and what the further plan is from that.
>> Um sorry go ahead. Oh, you know, I mean, yeah, I just wanted to add that the ultimate goal is to um you know, make that that beautiful and historic building livable, >> but as of right now, you have no plans, no sketching, no cost to get that
beautiful. Correct. >> Well, we do have the roof. Yes, we have the roof. That would be the first thing. And >> which is probably not cheap. >> No. And yeah, which made us look in other directions cuz we'll need time, you know, >> cuz that was our first thought as well. We'll put a roof on and you know, but
there's other things that need to be happening and um >> yeah, yeah, we'll take time, but to to add it, you know, it is a beautiful historic building and to be um a I think
it'd be a positive addition to Sombrero. We have any more questions with the homeowners? >> Well, I'm on the zoning part of it and um when we talked about it, we didn't know about this information at all what
he had said. And after we voted on it, I was driving by there and that was my next thing is like I think we got a treated as a a home because I I got looking at dad's house because our setbacks are either the setback or it can't stick out in front. And when I was
driving by, I looked I thought, "Oh, it goes in there and it gets pretty close to that other building." That's why I was just suggesting site plans and all that like would be after I had drove by and looked at it. So, I just think like my said, there's a
lot of leg work to do. >> So, u mayor mayor and councel. >> Yes. >> Can I can I ask a couple questions of the the applicant? >> You sure can, Mr. Okay, thank you. Um, so may maybe this
is on the handout, but where on the property are you planning to put it? >> Is it going to be in the front yard or in the backyard? >> The street side. >> The street side. And that is the in miles. That's the front yard. >> Yes. >> There is a um high wire heavy duty. I
don't know what it would be called. >> Power lines. >> Power line is in the back. So kind of for we wouldn't be able to put it in the back. And then how close to the house is or the what I'm calling the house but the existing structure. How close is it going to be to that structure?
>> Probably 25 30 ft. >> Okay. >> And then how close to the front to the street or to the front lot line do you think? >> Um maybe 40 feet. >> Okay. >> All right. All right. Just wanted to get
clarification on those. I think that I my view of this I looked at this just today for the first time and I think it needs more thought. I think we need to put a little bit more work into figuring out the legal path. There's a legal path to allow this and what that would be. So
that's my advice to the council is just to table this and we'll take a little deeper look at it. >> In my opinion, obviously I have a lot of questions or a lot of concerns on that. Um, one, I've never been in that building, so I don't know even what that
and I'm no builder or stuff, but I can I mean, by looking at the roof, it's going to need a lot of work. Um, I'm also concerned if we did allow a manufactured home on the property if it's one year, 10 years, when that time comes, how we going to get rid of it because once you
got the footings or the plumbing, the structure, um, but then I also look at, it's not zoned for manufactured homes. So then we're going to have issues with other residents making presidents for other areas to do the same thing. So
them are some of my concerns up front. Um and not having a definite plan where you're going, what you're doing kind of has some other questions of what's going to be done. Can I see the >> So mayor, can I ask one more question?
>> Sure. So is ma'am is it are you planning on putting it on a foundation like a concrete foundation? >> No, it's not our plan. >> Okay. >> So So how is it going to sit on the property then? Or or are you going to put skirts on it or is it a trailer
style or is it a house style? >> Well, you don't. Yeah, the they all have a um photograph of it in front of them. I don't know. It does have a pitched roof and there's a a covered front porch and we do plan to put um cement uh underpinning or skirting under it to you
know be more aesthetic and to the neighborhood. Um >> so the so so the the foundation will be like a trailer house pillars of blocks on >> anchor down and then anchored down.
Correct. So you you intended just from a public work stand like like sewer and water hookups >> to this. >> Yes. >> That was my other question too when I was looking at is there water and sewer to the building now? >> Yes.
>> So can they have two two hookups per property? >> You might need a variance on that too. I mean can you because I I thought somebody said >> my neighbor and I are on one. >> You want to check into this? No.
>> Really? You're only on one hookup? >> My There used to be three of us on one. >> Oh, really? >> It's old and we're looking at getting that replaced, but >> that's the sewer part. >> The sewer? Yeah. >> Yeah. I don't know. My opinion is I think we need more answers
to it. I mean, >> it's an intriguing proposition. I understand where you're looking at it and especially in our day and age with this economy that it's hard to get into something anymore. So, I mean, I like it
that there are a lot of questions that we just got to do some more due diligence on. >> And I think from a from a city standpoint, I would love to see that place fixed up. as someone who used to go sledding back there quite a bit.
>> That building was always Yeah. No, I haven't sledded for years. >> Probably break a hip. >> If I'm on site, I can do a lot to it myself as well. >> But currently I'm 15 miles away, you know, >> and we are being forced out basically of where I'm at now is unacceptable living
conditions really. And so the landlord wants to do something different, you know, but uh that's drove us to wanting our own place, you know, doing with what I can with what I have basically.
>> But this is not necessarily fixing up for for a house >> possibly. I mean, I mean to make it liveable, >> right? >> Yes. mobile home or or well I guess I call it a mobile home >> um would be there until you can live in
this place. >> Correct. Correct. So >> yeah, and that could be >> from a city standpoint, it's an opportunity to get this building fixed up and looking good. >> Yes. >> Um but there are >> laws that we have to follow and that's what we're a little leerary of. >> You know, I think we would all agree
that hey, the prospect of being able to get it fixed up is great. Um, you know, I I'm not I don't think we've allowed any of these type of homes, mobile homes on peers on foundations. Well, I know we have a couple on foundations, but those are more modular
homes. No wheels, >> no tongue, and you know, it's >> craned in there, put down, and and it's on a foundation. Those are in residential areas. There's a couple of those. But um you know to say okay you know there's to me there's an argument that hey they're going to fix the place
up. This is going to be 10 years a long time. I was thinking two years uh in my head but um you know whatever it needs to be. We just uh >> you know tonight will be some more information and we'll be in contact with you I think for >> for more information um just so we fully
vet this uh along with our city attorney and our city engineer as well and and public works. Um, and so we know exactly everything that's going to have to go into it. Um, you know, um, I don't know if there's any neighbors at the public hearing. No.
>> Are there any neighbors that wish to speak now? >> Oh, sorry, Tom. I'm stepping on your feet. No, >> um, so you know, if there's no neighbors that showed up, I guess that's that's our answer on that. >> Some positive reactions from neighbors, too. Well, I'm sure everybody wants the place fixed up. So,
>> it is my home site. It's where I grew up. >> Y's question. You have no idea what it's going to cost you to fix the building. >> I know that the roof is going to cost 40,000, >> right? But I mean to make >> other than that, no. might have.
>> Is there a point that you would get to where like, well, that's going to cost us way too much money to make a house out of that and then >> uh well, I wouldn't want to look at it like that ever really. I'd try to do what it
needed to be done to make it at least structurally sound, you know. >> Well, actually, it is structurally sound now. There's just >> the roof. >> Well, besides the roof, we did have the um an engineer come >> Yeah. Yeah.
>> to a structural engineer come and assess the building and um you know it is sound, it just needs renovation. >> He said they thought I had a gem and so it was encouraging to hear from a professional that yes, it's possible to
have this fixed up and is is worthwhile is what I've been told. And that being close to Rochester too might add the attraction to any other person working out of Rochester Mayo Clinic that would want to live in a big
home, you know, an old home like that. >> You probably got a possibility of in your thought is if it gets to be too much, you cut it into a living quarters with apartments or something. >> Yeah. Yeah. Or make just a living space for ourselves. >> Should it be? Yes. Yeah.
Um, I would like to add that we did look at modulars. It's just the price. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And that would be more permanent. We talked about that earlier too with the foundation. And if this is temporary, well, you fix it up. It >> that really doesn't lend itself to >> right
>> a permanent another permanent structure. And there there's discussions about >> what's the primary structure? Can you have two dwelling units? Can you there's all this stuff that we >> need to look at. Um, but yeah, I completely understand, you know, the setup that you're talking about. It makes sense for the purpose. It's just a
matter of how do we fit it into our ordinance and and not have this >> everywhere. >> Yep. Yep. Right. >> I mean, I know another thing. Now, I'm just jumping the gun a little bit. I obviously would not be a fan of doing a 10-year even if I would allow that
because here's my thinking. My thinking. We do it 10 years. You're going to finish it up on your 10th year and move it out. So that is one of my thinking that I would definitely do a shorter I would even struggle with five years to be honest with you in my opinion. Could I handle a year or two? Maybe. Uh there's
some other hiccups that I would that I don't like about it. But I definitely would not be a fan of a 10-year PUD or whatever they call it. of variance would be one of the things that I would have cuz it would be 10 years or the ninth year
you'd finish that project or you don't finish it now what do we do as a city because you've been there 10 years you've done it so that is a couple of questions that have come to my mind on that >> that I'm probably still going to have
questions and stuff like that so >> that's my so I I would recommend like what Miles and Brian and the attorney has said that uh let's try to get some more information prior to next council meeting and then uh if we want to make a
decision either way or what the layout is. >> Yeah. And we talked about that too. There's a 60-day rule where we need to make a decision within 60 days. I think we'll have time to March 5th, but we might ask for an extension on that just because just in case um as we do the
research just, you know, we want to work with you and try to make this happen, but we have to be within the the ordinance and the laws as well. And it's going to take a little bit more time. So, we'll make sure that we're complying with the the rules uh as far as that goes too to uh make a decision on your
your request. And like Miles said, u you know, maybe it's not even a conditional use permit. um in retrospect looking at more sections of the ordinance. So, so we'll study all that. >> Mile, when is the 60 days started? When did that start? Do you know roughly?
>> I don't remember the exact date, but I believe they applied late January at some point. So, I think we're probably okay to go through March 5th at the very minimum. Um, so that'd be my guess, but I would have to go back and look at at the application. >> What the date was when you filed it?
>> Oh, I do. >> Okay. Okay. It's okay. >> Whatever it was, I had to send out public notices obviously in advance of planning commission, too. So, it was at least 10 days before, you know, so it was at least late January. Um, so, >> well, we'll make sure we're >> So, by end of March, we're probably
going to I mean, is that going to give enough time for yourself uh public works, Brian, attorney to look at that or do we want to make just say by the 19th, we'll have everything and make a decision. And it's up to this try for the fifth. >> Yeah. When we're ready, it'll come it'll
be back on the agenda. >> Okay, perfect. >> Do you need any contact information if you have any questions or does Miles have that >> contact information? I'm good. >> Yeah, I imagine we'll be we'll be speaking more with you and maybe have you in for a meeting. Uh but
>> yeah. Okay. >> Do we need to table that? Do we have make a motion or just >> uh just not take action is what we had talked about. I think that's right, Mike. Yeah, you can either just not take action or it's everybody always says table, but if you have a specific item, it's a motion to po postpone is the
correct motion, but I would just move on and not vote on it tonight. That's fine. >> That's kind of what I think we need to do is get some more information. >> Sure. >> Perfect. Thanks for coming in. I mean, I'd love, like you said, I'd love to see that. There's just some questions with the ordinances and
>> other neighborhoods that neighbors got to think of, too. >> Perfect. >> Thank you for >> Thanks, guys. Yeah, thank you. Appreciate it. >> Uh, one quick thing, uh, 6F work session. Um, this is to discuss the pool
bid. >> Well, next steps >> or the next steps or all the above >> and and the and the revised uh personnel policy. >> Okay. So, we're looking at like to do it
next week either Wednesday or sorry, Tuesday or Wednesday time is kind of open. Uh, I was thinking maybe the 24th to Tuesday at 4 to start with that. >> That work for you, Fred?
>> And the reason for next week, >> let me let me look at my schedule. The reason for next week is because we depending on how the the final numbers shake out with these bids, we would be asking council to act on those on March 5th. So, we want to squeeze it in
between. >> So, that's why it's so quick. >> So, when when's the bid opening? >> Bid opening was the 17th and then we're going to ask the council to act on it possibly on March 5th, but we want to have a work session to kind of talk through everything. Um,
>> have fun. I'm gone. >> The bid opening was You said >> it was. Yeah, we already had the bid opening. Yep. And that's Yes. So, that was on my reports here. Um we'll get we'll get to that, but um you know, really you could slip into the beginning
of the week at the the council week, I suppose, too, if you needed to. >> I don't know. I mean, I would prefer to do it next week just cuz if we have some questions or some more work we have the city staff to do before we make that decision. I think if Kim needs to work
numbers or don't work numbers, >> I would like to do it. So, I'm throwing out the 24th to start out to see if everybody can make that. >> If you guys can make it work, I probably don't have Friday is my only evening that has any openings this coming week.
though. >> Is that the only one you're >> That's the only one that's open. Everything else is booked out. >> Thursday works for me. >> I mean, Tuesday works for me. I mean, >> I hate to I mean, if it works, I mean, I just hate to do it on Friday because
>> Yep. >> when you're business owners, you take a lot of Fridays off. >> So, >> let's see. You're a business owner, right? You're right, Todd. >> What? >> You You are a business owner, right? >> Uh my wife is. I just work for her.
>> I know. I do. >> So, Joan, does the 24th step at work? >> Oh, yeah. >> So, I mean, I know Brian and I had talked earlier and he was like he can kind of catch me up. So, if you guys >> I can bring you up to speed. >> I'd like to have at least four
20. You know, I mean, you can't make any you don't need a quorum really. >> It's just a discussion, right? I mean, and kind of everybody's >> information. >> Yeah, it's basically giving information and then Yeah. discussion. >> Yeah.
>> How does the third look? >> Are you still gone, Joan? >> We don't get home until the sixth, so I'll actually miss the fifth. >> Oh, yeah. You did say that. So, >> does that work? The third work for you, Kevin? >> I'm open on the 3. >> Fred.
>> How about How about a 7 a.m.? >> What do you have going on the third? >> I I can be here at what time? >> I don't know. I'm just seeing if that work. I mean, I'm open. >> I can be here at 4. There's a baseball pack meeting at Well, it's the Yeah, at 6. >> Hasn't changed over the last six years. They've been
>> 6:30. So, >> Oh, I know. But >> what time? >> I'm I'm open. >> End of the day. Will it work for me on the third? >> What time is the end of the day? Noon for you. >> Oh my piling on tonight. Good.
>> I just tell him tell him 7 p.m. See how he >> 5:30 on the third. Does that work for majority? >> Is that for Joan? That work for you >> and Fredo? That work for you, Brad? Yeah, I'll make that one.
>> Let's do it on March 3rd at 5:30. All right. I just need a motion for that. Sorry, Joan. You can't I mean it's it's sometimes tough, but >> I'll make a motion to have a work session or Tuesday the 3rd at 5.
>> Perfect. Second. >> Any more discussions? All in favor? >> I oppose. Passes 500. Um, and like I said, I'll do it that they have an hour and a half on work session 7 o'clock we'll be done. So,
perfect. Uh, reports, Brian. >> Yep. I just, uh, mention again on February 25th, Wednesday the 25th, we'll be having the, uh, uh, neighborhood meeting for the Pleasant Road project. It's a lot of neighbors because there's a lot of road there and a lot of homes.
Uh, >> what was that date again that you told me? >> February 25th at 6 PM. So, next Wednesday, 6 p.m. right here in council chambers. Um, the pool project. So, we open bids at 2 p.m. on Tuesday this week. Uh,
we're not ready to put numbers out yet. They still have Rebecca still got some work to do um to look at vet all the numbers and the biders. Um, but I can tell you we had we had five biders. A couple of them bid on multiple contracts. So the numbers I'm
going to give now won't drive. But the contract number one, we had two bids, uh, which that's the pool construction. Contract two is mechanical. We had two bids for that one also. And the general construction contract number three, we had three bids. Uh, but we're we're
optimistic at this point. Uh, that's all Burbach would allow me to say. Um, we'll have more shortly. Uh but they have to uh it's the bidding stuff and and we're not going to award till the 5th and they have to make sure they've got the numbers correct before we put anything out. Um and part of that is uh also uh
calling some references from the low biders uh to make sure that we are able to accept low biders. Uh so once they get all that done, then I'll get more information out to everybody and the pool committee um as to where we're where we're at uh with the bids.
So, um the transportation alternative grant, uh as you recall last year, um we talked about what's it going to cost to replace the trestle bridge and $2 million. Um that's a steel bridge, concrete deck, kind of like what you see
in Pine Island on the Douglas Trail. And back there, um we're after some transportation alternative grant dollars. Uh we can request 1,472,000 uh dollars of the two million is is what
the TA grant would fund for us. Uh last February received $525,000 uh from the district six area transportation partnership. Grateful for that. Um we brought it back this year. Uh last Friday, Bill and I presented
again. Uh it just the the presentation went extremely well. Great questions. Um it was received very well. So we're hopeful. Um I I'm hoping to find out tomorrow. Last year it strung out for a long time, but we're hoping that they
make a decision here. Um and that would be the remaining $947,000. Um last year's money is $209 is when we'll get that. And then if we're lucky enough to be chosen for the rest of it, that'll be uh 2030.
Uh so if we have that money in place then we'll have to start uh shifting in our capital planning um to make that work at that time. So >> that gives us four years if we get that 10
>> four years three and a half three three to four because we can start with the $29 and then finish later. Um, and there are ways if we wanted to do it sooner, there are some ways of shifting dollars and borrowing someone else's grant dollars. I don't
understand all of it, but um, but I would envision that it's going to take us a while to to massage that into our capital planning. So, uh, Jeff and I have already started talking about that if it happens. Well, it's going to happen. We had to commit to doing the
project last year to accept the 525,000. Um >> because that repair we did on there that was like a five to 10 year repair. >> That was a a a three to four year four to five year something like that. >> Four to five year maybe is what it was
is what we had asked for. Um so yeah it'll be about that time. Um it should still be fine um up until that point you know. So we'll let you know as soon as I know something. >> Question on the on the 900. Y
>> that when we're were out seeking grants, is that the total amount that they're going to give out or that was just the portion of of the grant that we were asking we would like 900 and maybe there's $6 million out there that >> now there's about 1.5 or 1.6 I think
>> and then we're asking could we get the 900? >> Yeah, we were asking for the 1.4 last time and we finished second and got 525 because that was what was remaining after they funded the number one project. So, it's either 900 or will they do
another 500 or >> possibly they can do whatever they want. Yep. They could ask if we take less if they wanted to. If they had two really good projects and they want to split it and Yeah, absolutely. They could ask that. >> But I did I did somebody asked the
question, you know, what if we don't get this rest of this money? I said, 'Well, you know, I understand that we committed to doing the project and we will make that work, but it's going to, you know, be very hard with our capital plans, um, road projects that we need to do, possible development and roads that we
need to finish for developments in which we assess the gravel parts of the roads, but we have to carry that cost for 10 years on an assessment typically. I said, so it could u affect um development in Zimroda. Um, so
Yeah. So, that question was asked and and those are the realities of it. So, we'll see. >> So, it's in our best interest if we get that money that we try to figure out how to do it. I mean, by 2030 it'll be $2.5 million. >> Yes, that that's a consideration as
well. um you know, if we can do it earlier and fit it in earlier, probably going to be cheaper, but then we're going to have to shift a road project or something and we're going to pay more for that road project down the line. So, it's going to be a a balancing act. But yeah, those are decisions. I hope we
have to make those decisions. >> Any more questions for Brian? Perfect. Any more? >> No, that's enough for me. >> Thanks, Brian. Mike, do you have any uh comments or thing? No, not tonight. Thank you. >> Thanks, sir. Chief, uh just uh update here with uh our
sergeant position. Um I got a final offer out um to Miss Miner and so she accepted that. We have an anticipated start date of March 9th. So, we're looking forward to getting started with her and get the training process and
hopefully get her on the road sooner than later. So, that's all I got. That was going to be my question. If you didn't answer it, what was the start date? Thanks, Chief S. Do you have anything to add, Jeff? >> James, just one item of good news. We
were the recipients of $10,000 from the Carnegie Corporation, New York. Uh so since we're kind of making poking fun at Bob tonight, maybe he was alive when this was done, but in 1908 uh it was two, but
>> uh the Carnegie the uh Andrew Carnegie had built uh the library for this town. It was the first library here uh physical building and um they just decided out of the blue to give us more money 100 years later. So, >> do you have certain things you have to
do or can do with it or is it just kind of going the >> It was unrestricted. You >> have any ideas or plans what you want to do with it? >> Uh, we talked a little bit about library at library board about how to use the funds. Um, nothing specific at this time, but um kind of waiting to see
where some of these big capital things that we got to spend come out before I make a final decision on that. >> Perfect. Perfect. Thanks, James. Good news. >> Miles, >> nothing. >> Thank god. No, no, >> I have nothing. Um, Joan,
>> Kevin, just a couple things for the ambulance committee. We're going to be meeting on the 25th and we'll be discussing the 2027 assessments, what the costs will be. Um, the new ambulance has arrived. It's being wrapped right now with graphics, adding medical
equipment, and all the supplies to it. Uh, so for the next few weeks, they're down to two ambulances. while that one's getting wrapped. And the last one here, Minnesota Office of Emergency Medical Services did their
banial inspections for the Zabro area ambulance. And this is the third consecutive inspection that they have received a 100% compliance, which is very difficult to do even one time, let alone three times in a row. So um very
much to be thankful for for what they have accomplished there and the stewardship and care that they show for all the equipment that takes care of the residents of Simroa and the surrounding communities. So thanks so much to that question for you because I don't know the answer of you guys meet monthly or
is it quarterly? >> There's a monthly board and then the full board meets twice a year. >> Okay. That meeting is on the >> It just I've never been to. I mean, I've been to just about every meeting. It'd be interesting to sit down on that and just to kind of see the structure of
that. >> Next full board meeting is the 25th. That's Wednesday. >> We already have. What time is that one end? Do you know >> that doesn't start till 7? >> 7 o'clock. >> Okay. And I assume you attend all those too. >> Most of them. Yes. Which ones? I can't go on.
>> Perfect. Thanks. Good news, >> Brad. Is the park work going to be included in network session? >> Good idea. Yes. Yeah, I thought about that uh this morning as well. Um well, at least for the park um about the pool.
>> Yep, >> for sure. Um yeah, we'll be discussing hopefully we'll be discussing next steps. U >> I just Yeah, the whole park. >> Well, the park board and the pool committee, too. I should probably invite them just like we did before, a combined
meeting. So, yeah, that's a good point. I'll uh I'll get that posted right away. Perfect. Anything else, Ben? Pending a journal