This conference will now be recorded. There's the case. podcast today from my daughter who wanted me to be her guest. Then I was like, "Oh, I have city council." She was like, "Oh, okay."
And she just wanted me to be myself. I was like, "I'm in. Kim, how's how's he doing today? >> I got to go afterwards, so I'm bailing out on you. >> But the day >> he looks a little worse for today
probably, right? I got 6:00 and Paul will be in order. We'll start with the pledge of allegiance. >> Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and
justice for all. >> I just need adoption of the agenda. >> I'll make that motion. >> I'll second it. >> Any further discussion? All in favor? I oppose. Passes 500 Z. We'll open the
public comment portion. Individuals may address the city council about any items of concerns. Speakers must state their name and limit their remarks to five minutes. Public comments. I will close the public comment portion
and we'll jump down to the consent agenda. All items listed on this consent agenda are considered routine by council and will be approved by one motion. There will be no separate discussion on these items unless a council member requests if in which ease case the item
will removed from the consent agenda be considered in its normal sequence on the agenda. >> We make a motion to approve the consent agenda. >> Second. >> Uh any further discussion? All in favor?
I oppose. Passes 500. accounts payable, Fred. >> Hey. Um, most of them are pretty self-explanatory. The the shoe marker one 87 or $82,000 is for some work on
the booster station and the Ninth Street final lift. And then that was pretty much it unless you have any other questions. You want to make a motion.
>> Any other questions? No. No questions. >> Okay. I'll make a motion to pay the accounts payable for October 16th. Do >> we have to say the amount, Kim? Mhm. >> Do this >> for 394,578.38.
>> Second. Any further discussions? All in favor? >> I oppose. Passes 500. Thanks, Fred. Uh, let's jump down to a new business. Resolution 202531, reszone 211 Walnut Street. Miles.
>> Uh, yes. Thank you, Mayor Council. Uh on Tuesday night uh a public hearing was held uh from the planning and zoning meeting for reasonzoning 211 Walnut Street. This is a new address by the way. So if you don't recognize 211 Walnut Street is because it's brand new. Um but this is going to be the new
location of the ABS uh veterary clinic and that's going in sometime in the future here. Hoping to get going on that. So it's currently zoned for agricultural and needs to be go moved to commercial 2 which is consistent with our comprehensive plan. Uh that's why we
picked that zone is because of geographic location. Um and I don't know what qu I was not in attendance at the meeting on Tuesday so I don't know what questions there were. Um there were a few people had some questions that might be in relation to the property at large but um yeah the resolution's here
tonight. Uh, planning commission approved recommended approval of the reszone. Um, and staff recommends approving this reszone tonight. >> And I assume planning and zoning passed that. >> Yes, it was passed. I don't know what the numbers were. Um, Fred might know,
but I don't. Yep. 50. >> 5. Okay. >> I'll make a motion to approve resolution 2025-31. >> Second. Uh, any further discussions, Bob? >> No. All I was going to say is I know
Doug has some comments about um about different things um which just some questions on it and uh some concerns. I don't think they're too big, but I think they're in the uh in the works of being addressed. So, >> okay, we're doing real. Okay. No, that's
>> Joan. Hi, >> Kevin. >> Hi, >> Fred. >> And I I passes 5 0. Thanks, Miles. Uh 8B resolution 202532 Street, vacation, 211 Walnut Street, Miles. >> Uh yes, thank you, Mayor Council. Um so,
kind of the same thing. Uh this location is a couple different lots. It was originally platted for houses to go in there. Who knows when? Um so there are no streets there currently, as you may know. It's all just land currently. Um,
so basically, legally speaking, we have to vacate these platted streets so that they can, you know, build within these different lots. Um, and there are no environmental concerns obviously because there's no streets there. Um, so this is
kind of just almost a formality in a way just of getting things rolling. Um, and yep, planning commission addressed this in a public hearing on Tuesday, October 14th. Um, we heard comments from the public and it was recommended approval uh from planning commission to city
council tonight. >> I'll make a motion to approve resolution 202532. >> I'll second. >> Any further discussions? Bob >> I Joan >> I >> Kevin >> I Fred >> hi. >> And I I passes 500. Thanks again Miles.
Let's jump to 8C resolution 202533 Keller Bartman Bridge view apartments parking miles. >> Uh yes, thank you mayor and council. Uh so we've had a variance variance application from Keller Bartman uh on the new proposed Bridge View Apartments
building. Um they are requesting a variance on off- streetet parking. The proposed site plans uh call for 66 parking spots. uh they would need 76 parking spots according to our ordinance which says two spots for every one unit
in a multifamily building. Um and so that's what the variance therefore they're requesting 1.5 spots per unit um as their minimum variance request. Um, and we held a public hearing in public and planning and zoning commission on Tuesday and there were several residents
that expressed concerns about the development that it would not provide adequate parking for the area. Um, and to note the current proposal, it calls for 1.74 parking spaces for every unit right now. Um, and this in contrast with
the current building that's already there adjacent lot size. um they are at one for one give or take on their parking right now. So it might be a little bit I think it's technically.98 but it's about one for every unit right now. Um and just to know we don't we
currently don't are not aware of any parking concerns with the current building. So that was that was something that was expressed that we should bring up in this type of meeting. Um and planning commission voted this variance down on a 4 to one vote recommending
denial. Any discussion council? I know it's kind of been a hot topic. Um um I kind of like to go back with what the uh uh planning and zoning board has recommended.
um that's what they've recommended. Um that's why we have these boards in place. They talk about a practical difficulty of and and one of the practical difficulties is if it's not presented um or if it's a a unique situation not
brought about by um by the landowner. This one is brought about by the landowner because they're asking to change um where they could change what they put on the lot. >> Uh yes, to tag along with that, the reason planning zoning, one of their reasons for denying the variance was
that because the building hasn't been built, these issues are economic in nature which don't constitute practical difficulties according to granting a variance. However, they did receive a Minnesota state grant which is based off
the design. So it it's, you know, give or take. It's kind of what you want to interpret it as, I would say. Um, so that's just something else to keep in mind when you're considering here. Um, but yes, the reason for their denial was based that it could still be changed and
it is the PL the land owner is bringing this upon us because this is their design when they know it does not meet the current zoning code. And part of my I was part of the evolved of the first apartment complex and like I said we're
at one. I talked to Pasquali last night asking what if we've had any parking issues. He goes be honest with you not really. Last snowfall they issued maybe two or three snow violations and it never was a problem after that. And I
think that's all around town. So, um I know one of the property owners there on West Avenue that has a business right there, Westlakes, they they can always park right in front of the building when they come in. I know Ryan's were here and discussed some of their concerns
when they have visitors, but I have visitor house. We have other have visitors house. We have cars there. So, um and they got a variance. I think that was built right into their PUB the first time.
>> We did not Yeah, they >> we did not do that cuz we wanted to make it more aware through the planning and zoning and let have more of a decision versus a POD can kind of get thrown underneath the rug. So that's why we did it this way versus
differently on that first building. I don't know if it makes a big I have a little concern above we're another half block closer to Main Street. A lot of main street traffic uses that back alley for parking businesses and stuff and that's just my kind of my concern and you know going by the grant thing you
know when this first started the zoning voted down the reszone until a lot of this stuff was taken care of. So if it was before they went for the grant, the size of the building could have been changed at that time too.
>> Uh and to add if it's okay, Fred, you did ask a question earlier today I wanted to bring up which was about if they can count the adjacent lots. um because sometimes it's been brought up a few different by a few different people if you know the outside parking can also be counted in their parking total
parking spaces and our zoning ordinance should be in there one of your sheets I gave you J number two it's on the bottom of the very of one of the pages there um it's a little bit kind of an interpretation but it's more of a you can kind of see a um
it says for multifamily units adjacent parking on the principal structure can be applied within 200 feet of the entrance. Where the entrance is, I don't really know. That can kind of be up to interpretation, but just wanted to throw that out there that we usually count the
outside parking with it since it's on the lot. Um, >> so >> is that in our city's zoning? >> Yep, that's our that's our zoning code. And again, it's kind of more of an interpretation if if you will, but it since everything is a little bit vague,
but um just in general via precedent, we have always counted outside parking with the indoor parking as well. So on the proposed lot, and you can't see the numbers exactly, but the indoor parking, they have 30 total spots. Outside is the
rest of the 36. So they're kind of banking on the outside parking there um to hit that as well, if that takes into consideration. But it's the same with the first building as well. So it's not unique to this one. It's the same thing they did with the first one, too. They have some underground parking. It's not
enough for 58 units. They are kind of relying on the outside to get to that one for one mark. Um and so this one's a lot closer to that two for one that we're looking for. Um but again, still doesn't meet that code. So it's for the
reason for the request for variance. As with most Odin zoning stuff, each lot brings a different consideration into it. And I see the zoning as kind of putting out the the cookie cutter model for the optimum situation.
We almost never have that whenever one of these things comes forward. In this case, there's there's actually far more spaces per unit than the existing one. So, I don't have a problem looking at it that way that we're going
to have what was the number here? 1 >> 1.74 >> 1.74 versus the one one almost. So, >> kind of feel the same way that with with the original building that they built. a
one unit. And here now we're almost to two. We're not quite to two, but almost to two. Feels like if we and was approved first time around was okay. Kind of feel like
should be okay with this 1.74 unit. how vague it is. Off street parking is and they're count. I know it's vague in here. I don't know what they can count
and stuff, but there's a lot of I mean, there's even three spots on on Third Street that they're using. And it looks to me like they're making one of them handicap to meet their handicap
spots for the building also. Make a motion to >> approve resolution 202533. >> I would second that. >> Any further discussions? >> We'll do Bob
>> Joan. >> Hi. >> Kevin >> I. >> Fred. >> Nay. >> And I I passes three to two. Thanks Miles. Thanks to planning and zoning for their work on that. And I would have to agree. I I hate going against other
committee the recommendations but um I feel strongly that this is a benefit to the city of Zumbroa and the growth and housing is uh very important for a growth of a town and to strive for other industries from commercial to uh
residentials coming in. So but I want to thank planning and zoning for their time on this matter. Um let's do reports. Miles. >> Uh, yes. Thank you, Mayor and Council. The only report I have is that our recatification process is moving along.
We have an attorney now that's been assigned to us and that are going to be doing our legal review of our all our ordinances. Um, you probably won't hear anything about it until the new year at least at this point. Um, but just want to let you know it's still moving along.
That money is not wasted or anything. that the process is still moving along and that we they have all our materials and things have been in the works to get things in the software correct software um and that we're moving along next step of the process. So that's my report.
>> Perfect. Thanks Miles Chief >> Jeff Kim. Um, I just wanted to bring up one of the things we weren't able to get to at the work session last night, which is the fee they were charging for. Um, well, something we've come up with is there are some people within the
community that do not want a radio read on their home for personal reasons. So, we will need to do manual reads on those, which is a an exception. And we will also have some people probably at some point that will refuse to have the new meter installed. So, what we've
found out from other communities that have done this process is that they charge an extra fee to read their meter. Um, we don't know what that fee is going to be yet. We've been kind of kicking around what we'll present to you, but it will most likely be coming at the at the
fee schedule time so that we can kind of close up this process and hopefully the fee will encourage some of them that don't want people to install the meter to actually install the meter. So, um, but if you have any questions, hear me now? >> Yep.
>> All right. I had to dial in. Sorry, I didn't couldn't get my microphone working before. But, um, in reference to the fee, I do know that cash charge is $100 a month uh for those that refuse to let us in to replace meters. Um, and they keep charging that as long as they keep refusing.
That's just a reference to start with. >> So, there could be two fees. There could be a a meter read fee and then a refusal to install fee. So, >> can I ask why they refuse? radio frequencies. They they don't believe they're healthy >> for the most part.
>> And some people just don't want people in their home. >> And I just think if we don't charge a fee or there's not a penalty, that's going to be we're going to open the door up for more people not wanting the new meters in. So then we're going to have to spend more time with our water guys
to figure out a house here, a house there, three there. And it's going to be more time for our help and for our office staff to enter that in and get it out. So >> yeah, the manual reads are almost um even from the current process is almost a step backwards. I mean he has to
manually do a there'll be a box on the outside of the house and he'll have to go bump the house. Okay. >> He'll have to bump read off the house. >> So kind of almost I mean we're before he could remotely grab readings. Now he'll still he'll be physically bump reading it with a
>> you can't do that on >> there were already radio frequencies before. These are different obviously >> updated. Yeah, correct. But >> cuz Ronnie has to be down the street, be so close to read them. Now we he won't even have to go down the street because it automatically come right here.
>> So I think when we get to that fee price, I think we need give us some numbers or what other communities are doing. >> We actually had one property owner that wanted Ronnie to climb a ladder to read it because they didn't want to put a
hole in their sighting >> and Jeff said no. How many people so far have said that they do not want this? >> Two. >> Two. >> Two right now. >> Two that have the the read. They do have the new meter. >> They do not. No,
>> they do not. Okay. >> That's part of it too is that I think you know as we do get through with some of the verbiage we won't be able to support what they have for water meters at some point either. So that'll be you know another bridge to cross when that
comes too. So, >> um, they can get a reconditioned meter, I think. >> Yeah. >> And that would they would have to pay for that because we're not supplying those. >> But if that meter breaks and they're getting free water and are tells them that they're not using a,000 gallons a month and they're really using 6,000,
the city's going to get stuck paying. So, I mean, we're going to have to figure something on that. >> So, think about it. We'll have a more at the end of November, beginning of December, we'll have a more um a better grasp on how many we aren't don't have installed and how many are refusing
install or not scheduling. So, >> right, and we anticipate maybe this will be on the fee schedule uh January one or or the first meeting in January when we adopt a fee schedule, we can uh incorporate a fee like this in that schedule.
>> Perfect. Anything else, K? >> Nothing. Thank you. >> Brian, do you have any uh public comment or not public comments, reports? >> No, just to say that Mike Flity was having trouble getting in. He gets put into a waiting room all the time when he tries to join. So, he wanted to
apologize that uh he tried to join us uh but just couldn't get in. So, we'll uh we'll get that fixed before the next meeting. >> Sounds good. Kip, you have anything else? All right. No. Okay. I just wanted Jeff wasn't here last night. I did it at the work session, but I ran into a resident that wanted to praise the city
on our walking pass. Um, how being cleaned out and they can see the river and that we you guys do a great job of cleaning the debris and keeping that clean. So, I again I want to thank you and your guys for keeping that clean and looking good and the resident takes
pride of our covered bridge park. So, I want to thank thank you on that. Bob, >> I just wanted to thank you for uh mentioning the planning and zoning committee and thanking them for the work that they're doing. Thank you. >> I mean, and and that to go back to that,
all our boards, I think, are short people. I mean, I think we're short one or two. And we're elected officials, so we kind of know what we have to do, but these meetings of these boards are non I mean, they're not getting I mean, this is free
time. So, I want to thank all the boards as long as we're talking about it and all the members of that for their time they put into it. Some do more than others, but it's appreciated what they all do. Thanks, Bob. >> Joan, >> nothing tonight. >> Kevin, >> nothing tonight. Fred,
>> well, can we get a list? I mean, is that something that we could even be recruiting people for these boards, right? >> Yeah. Advertise out there, >> right? But I mean, >> yeah, >> I mean, we see a lot of people and stuff. We can encourage some people. we get a list of what we need.
>> Well, actually, uh, we did put together there's actually a new page on the website that just is for board applications now. And there should be a list of what spots are open at any given time and a link to apply for each specific one >> because what do you have two on EDA and
two on planning and zoning that I know of? >> Two, planning and zoning, EDA, and >> one one part, >> I think. So, but anyway, so that's available for people if they just want to do it online. They don't even have to come in or call us or send a letter of interest or anything. It's just easy. It
takes five minutes online. So, if you guys know anyone that wants to do it, then >> have I seen it in the paper, too? The one did I see in the paper once? Did we put it in the paper? >> Maybe for planning and zoning, I put one out, but >> Okay. I know I've seen one. >> I've seen it online. >> Yeah.
>> But yeah, perfect. >> And then speak And then speaking of park board, if you haven't been past the park, they put a new sign up. >> Oh, yeah. So >> that looks awesome. >> There's one here. >> Yeah. >> Cover bridge park. >> But the what the front sign when you come in? >> Yeah. >> The entrance of the park or the cover bridge park.
>> Oh, really? >> Yeah. It's really a real eye eye catcher. It really looks nice. >> It looks really nice. >> Yeah. Turned out really sharp. >> Pretty fresh. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Big time. >> It looks really nice. >> Looks awesome. So take a drive by if you haven't seen it. >> I'll have to. I have not. I knew it was getting done. I just didn't know when.
>> Yeah. last weekend I think they >> was that an outside company or do we have members or residents that help? >> I think the metal fabricator guy Dan out here did the metal work is what I've been told right you said and then the printing came from >> Kankowowski
was all local stuff >> perfect >> anything else right meeting I invite What? Oh.