This conference will now be recorded. >> Mine doesn't say. >> At 6:00, I'll call the meeting to order. Pledge of Allegiance. Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Let's see. I believe we have a couple of amendments to the agenda. Um 7F and 7G. Is that correct? >> Yep. 7F. uh promotion of Sergeant Tony
Pasquali to police chief and then the posting of the police sergeant position that will open up when when Tony moves into the chief position. Uh I did send out revised um agendas and the paperwork to you guys.
So >> yes, >> just need a motion for the u amendments to the agenda. >> Uh I'll make that motion. >> Second. All those in favor? >> I >> passes. Um, public comments. Uh,
individual individuals may address the city council about any item of concern. Speakers must state their name and their limit their remarks to three minutes. Generally, the city council will not take official action on these items, but may refer the matter to staff for future report or direct the matter to be
scheduled for a future meeting agenda. Do we have any public comments? If you're here for the public hearing, we'll we'll do comments then uh for the the ordinance, the water ordinance, if that's what you do. Okay. No, >> no, no. We'll do we'll do that under
>> that's under Yeah. >> the new business hearing. >> There are no public comments. I will co excuse me, I will close the public comments portion uh and we'll move on to the consent agenda. All items listed on the consent agenda
are considered routine by the council and will be approved by one motion. >> I would just be looking for a motion for the consent agenda. >> We'll make a motion to approve the consent agenda. >> Second.
>> Any further discussion? All those in favor say I. I. >> I. Passes 30. >> Uh accounts payable. Uh, let's see. That is myself. Nope. Sorry. I'm not following through here.
>> It's in there somewhere. Hopefully, it's in there. >> Where did it go? Hang on. Most things on the uh uh consent agenda were very uh normal. Couple of uh couple of them. Um I know one was uh
oh $114,667 to uh Burbach Aquatics for pool engineering. Uh and the other two that uh uh to highlight one is 82957 to the Zimoda area ambulance for safety dollars allocation of 11,75101.
Uh and the other was into the Somota fireboard for safety dollars of 13,50955. Everything else was very very uh normal. There any questions on that? >> The engineering fees for Burbach, we we've already paid them quite a bit
already, haven't we? >> Yes, we have made a payments I believe prior to this of 273,000. And these are >> a part of that 350 that was >> I believe so >> whatever their percentage of the project
is question is that normally go through the park board or does it go through us? >> Well the thing of it is is that the you are going to be in charge of the construction project. So we will make sure that you both basically approve them because we're going to have to have bills paid in a timely manner. Um
because the parkboard only meets once a month. So, we're going to be running them through, but we'll be making sure that both entities have see the bills and have them. And of course, Jeff will review them for the to make sure the work's been done. >> Okay. I believe that. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Do you recall, Jeff, they were
going to look for bill or look for payment on the first meeting, the first council meeting or was it the second? Do you recall? >> Oh, can't remember what they decided on that. Well, either way, the parkour look good to see it just be. Um, I'll make a motion to approve the
accounts payable in the amount of $158,52.36. >> I'll second. >> All those in favor? >> I passes 30. Uh, now we will move on to the public hearing uh for the ordinance 2026
revised water billing ordinance. typically the same as the com as the public comments. Uh three minutes uh for comments, right? >> Yeah. Do we have was Kim gonna speak first or do we open it up for >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. My bad.
>> All right. So, um, we have been, >> um, actually we had been asked quite some time to, um, include this. Hang on just a second. I was just going to turn my getting some feedback. But, um, we had been asked to,
uh, look into the ordinance, uh, check into how we are going to be doing the new utility billing ordinance. The ordinance currently is not in line with our, uh, practices. So, we started looking at it and we bill monthly was one of the things that is changing.
We've got the new metering system. So, we were asked about uh manual meter read fee for people who would opt out. Uh we looked at how much labor it takes to do that um to go out and have a physical read of the meter. Uh we also looked
into um uh we were asked to look into the cost of mailing bills. We've been having a issue that which hasn't gotten has gotten worse actually lately. Um we spend about $700 to $800 a month just
for postage on the bills not counting paper product staff time cost of copying. Um and they are a lot of the bills are getting lost. Last uh last month I believe we had well over a hundred bills that were lost in the mail. We have no control of them once
they leave. It's not our local people. I believe that it's happening when they get up to the cities. Actually, the old bill came the day before the new bill came. Um, so we're having a lot of issue with mailing of it. Um, we offer email billing free of charge. So, we have that
on there at all times that people can get their bills by email. Um, so that was one of the things Mayor Council or Mayor Hamill asked to look at was the cost of million. we came up with a cost to send those out for each person of $3 per bill is roughly our average cost.
Um, and then the other thing we wanted to talk about would be the establishment of a no read or excuse me, a no read meter fee. And that's specifically when our public works department has reached out several times to a an individual because
something's wrong with the meter and they're not getting any response from them to either fix it or um see if if something's hooked up incorrectly. So in that case, if that fee were to happen, we would notify the homeowner and we were proposing that a uh no read fee go
on their bill, but if they comply within a certain period of time, that fee would be removed. um just so we can keep track of we're all responsible and we get audited on water loss uh un unbuild water that's we're pumping. So it's just another way we can keep efficiency going
for our water system. >> Thank you. Um I'll open that up to any uh public comments on the uh ordinance uh for the water billing. I just ask that you uh state your name and address and uh limit your remarks to just a few
minutes, please. >> Okay. I'm Connie Growth and I live on Lincoln Avenue and I am one probably only one that wants to opt out and I am here because I saw the front page of the
newspaper. I kind of browse through that information that $68 to come manually read my reader and I've offered to can I record my numbers and maybe defer that 68 I mean quarterly
or by yearly or yearly. I mean I my bill and even the business bill arrived and each was at 1,000. I mean that's my standard is 1,00 that I get build. So
it's kind of hard to divvy from that. You know it's always been that way. So I want to opt out. And how have you successfully replaced the whole town of Zamro's meters with these Wi-Fi?
>> I know. >> Has that been complete? Is that >> I believe I believe we've got about 140 roughly to do yet this year. And >> we stopped. Yeah, we stopped during the winter just for better practices when we couldn't find the curb boxes as well anymore. So,
>> and you're doing with their consent to do this, replace them, just swap them out. Um, you know, I'm one person. This is one community amongst the whole world, but we know we're falling to the AI pollution.
You know, we live in a microwave. It's only going to get now we're a super superpower microwave. It's not good. It's not healthy. And then part two, AI. You know, once we're all in on the cloud, it'd be so easy to slip pennies
from my account to feed AI without me knowing it. And I think opting out would be one way to say no, I want to pay for what I owe and not feed AI or
mistakes, you know, accidents, you know, the flood that occurred in the business. Um, that's expensive and >> yeah, it is expensive. Uh, and we've talked about a few different options of of ways to do that.
Um, and I know there was some others that we haven't talked about, too. Um, my wife and I were brainstorming on a few different things, ways to do it. Um, and how to, uh,
how do I say that? Uh, make sure you're paying for what you are. But one of the reasons for this new system is also to um make sure that if there is an issue that it can be seen and taken care of so you don't get hit with a large water bill for someone for
>> Yeah. I've heard that this new system is supposed to be programmed to watch everybody's house. So you're constantly are you, you know, you're constantly just like a whatever. Are you there? Are you there? Are you there? Are you using too much water over here? If so, I'm going to shut you down.
>> Right? That's how it's programmed. What? What they told me too is know that >> I can't bring my meter reader information down >> for my bill because it's not programmed to do data entry.
>> Yeah, I believe it's it's actually it it talks back twice I believe it's twice a day for less than a second a time. Whoever is actually it's comm. It's not a constant. Well, how could you have caught the
business flood in twice a day? Uh, you may have, you may not have. I mean, how accurate is that program? You're only as good as you're programmed. And you don't even know what the program source is programmed to do. And it's pretty bad that you can't ask,
you know, if then, else, or but programming do this. You know, if you are Connie, allow her to deliver her numbers to you to input for her bill. And if it has to
be out on the internet, I the article said I can just come down here. I know the bill's due on the 22nd, preferably before that. I can just come down here. I'm ready to pay my bill. You know, they'll look it up, tell me what I owe.
It's just and and then again you are pushing, plowing, forcing compliance. That's not freedom. >> Opt out costs me $15 a month, not $70 a month. >> And that's but they do not physically do
they have to physically come to your residence at $15 a month? Do they come and read your meter every month for 15 bucks? >> I believe they do. >> They physically come on an opt. Yeah. >> Yeah. What I've been told is they're a big company and they're eating a lot of that cost. >> Okay.
>> We're not a big company. We're a city. We've got >> we've we've got >> Well, we've got we've got fee payers. We we're instituting a meter reading system that that's wonderful. That's going to be able to
be, you know, you can have a uh log in to see your own water usage. Um you know, we can catch leaks. We we're constantly arguing or or or taking complaints on, hey, something's wrong. Uh you're charging me way too much. And then we have to go back through a whole
convoluted system to figure out that the toilet ran for an hour and a half at two in the morning. This system will be able to see it um you know, pretty much real time. So, it's a great system. And you know the uh the RF or whatever it is is
is less than a second a day. Um and um you know this is a system that that went to and um the council wanted to have an option of an opt out. Uh so we went to look and see okay well what's that going to cost? Um and that's how we came up
with the the amount and so that's an option that you can that you can use council yet. free service to read my >> Is there any other public comments on the water bill?
>> If not, I will close the public comments portion of the uh on the public hearing and we'll move on to uh new business. Um 7A uh Zoma drivetrain family car show road closure request. Brian.
>> Uh, yes. We, uh, as you see in the memo there, um, Savannah is here to answer any questions that we have. And her helper, what's your name? >> Lincoln. Here to answer any questions you might have. They'd like to close down a portion of uh, Warren Avenue
between First Street and St. Paul Road for a family a family car show. Um, I told Savannah that you would probably ask if she had spoken to everybody in the neighborhood to make sure they're okay with that. Specifically, you know, shoe boxers and O'Brien because they're
in and out of there with heavy trucks all the time and we're not sure they can get down St. Paul Road. Um, and whatever other questions you might have, I promised I wouldn't make her talk too much. you had to push and hold.
>> Um, yeah, our car show is on a Saturday, so it shouldn't impede anyone's business. I personally went door to door to our business neighbors as well as all of the residents on St. Paul Road and spoke to 90% of them personally. um left
flyers and a note letting them know and inviting them to our car show because we do want to drive community engagement because I know Zamroa drivetrain doesn't always have a great community image and we would like to change that. That's what we're we want to have some
community outreach. We're doing some kids stuff. So, we do want the road closed, at least the part kind of in front of our building so we can have kids in the area without traffic. >> So, am I you're going to go back
>> towards like shoe markers and that that's the the road that you want to >> Yeah. We're not going to first just >> just on Warren right in front of our business as well as shoe markers and most of those businesses do not operate on Saturdays.
Do you have any issues with that? >> Yeah, I was just going to say u public works has approved pending what we had talked about. Um and officer or sergeant for now Piscali um also approved it from a police standpoint. It's just the
council approved with us remaining. >> I guess we'd be just looking for a motion to approve that. >> How long is it for? >> Car show is three hours. We were going to close down just a little for setup before and after. So approximately 5 hours. >> Well, I'll make a motion to approve this
road of drive train family car show road closure. >> All those in favor? >> Can I have one more one more question? You said 5 hours. >> Yeah. >> Yes. I it is 9 to noon is the car show and we would close or put out cones I
guess around 8 >> 8 to 8 sorry >> was counting I was thinking three my bad >> all those in favor >> I >> I passes 30 uh on to 7B ordinance 202609
establishing fees for emergency protection fire services within the city. >> Yes, this is just for your consideration tonight. We know that we're going to have some clean up to do on it. Uh this came about because as you know much like the ambulance service we the city pays
in per capita pays dues into the ambulance service but if you use the ambulance service you end up having to pay for it and fire control is just the exact same way. Um we all we pay dues for the city and our township partners but if you use the service we do ask you
to pay the cost of going out that to getting all the equipment out doing all those things because we need to fund our department. Um so we are a joint powers board and we have been getting some push back more and more from the automotive insurance industries that we are not
authorized to bill for the joint powers board. I do the bookkeeping for the joint powers board. And in order to do that, we need to put this ordinance into place to that says basically the cities and the townships give their permission for the fire board to bill for these
things that happen. And most of the push back we get are for um for traffic things on 52. To be honest, we don't get have too much problems with property at all, but the traffic things with automotive in um insurance seem to be an issue.
So, >> I had spoken with Kim about this and I just had some questions about the wording on always going back to the city versus the fire board. Uh because the fireboard is really the one billing it, but the city does it. And I just didn't know if that wording was going to be
correct and to make sure everything is stated right. I don't know if uh >> uh the attorneys have looked at that too as well or if there is any issues or not. I just wanted to make sure on that. >> Yeah, I did not have uh the attorneys look at it. It's a template from the um
League of Minnesota Cities and their attorneys. Basically, you fill in some roda in multiple places. But you're right, Bob. And just reading a little closer through here. Just some of the wording um should probably point back to the the
fireboard or the joint powers. Oops. >> Yeah. >> Or the joint powers. So, yeah, there there's a few wording changes we make in here. and then um clean up a little bit. >> Perfect. Thank you. >> So, do we want to wait on that motion? >> Yeah, we can. So,
>> okay. >> Uh 7 C the water tower demolition quotes. Yeah, >> we're just uh with uh Scott Honey and WHKS, we put together a bit pack here to get rid of the existing water tower. It
is we've been capped off and running on just the GSR for probably 3 weeks now and did some programming so that all three wells talk now and feed the uh the high pressure system so to speak and everything seems to be running pretty smoothly. So just looking for approval
to demo the water tower. We have a motion to approve that uh demolition quote. >> Motion to approve the water to water water tower demolition quote >> 54,400 discussion. All those in favor
>> I passes 30. Uh 7D organized hauling contract commercial services. >> Yes. Um, we've been talking about this for a little while. Um, and in going through
the process of putting together the RFPs and consulting with uh with Mike Flity, uh, we ran into uh, well, we're going to have to revise an ordinance depending on what you guys want to do. Uh, first thing I'm looking for is some guidance on um,
which way we want to go with the commercial hauling. Right now, the way it's been set up since the first contract that we did, um, is that we bid residential and then commercial is the lowest residential bidder plus the second lowest, uh, residential bid have
the ability to do commercial hauling in Zamrona. Um, we've gotten several complaints from businesses um, that that's not working very well. It hasn't created u competition, enough competition for prices. Um, so as we go
into this RFP process and we still want to bid, you know, I would think we still want to bid the residential. That that's been working very well. Um, but for the commercial, we could we could stay with what we have with the two. We would not have to re uh redo the ordinance at that point. But if we do uh
another option would be to bid both. We have a solid bid on residential and on commercial. It would be a fixed fixed rate. then everybody would know what it's going to be for for commercial. Um I don't know how it would come out. It's been done. I think one amingo did theirs
that way. Um but I think what business owners want is to be able to have some competition and do negotiating. So that's the third option would be to uh just open commercial hauling up to whoever they want to negotiate with or whoever the businesses want to negotiate with. If we did do
that, we would want to limit the number of days that those trucks are in town. Uh because we don't want trucks, big trucks running around all over town every day. Uh commercial be mostly on the main roads downtown. Uh some apartments I suppose. Uh but you know,
we can limit it to one or two specific days that we know they'll be they'll be here. Um so anyway, that's the first thing is guidance on that. Which way do you want me to go with setting up the RFP? Um and then we need to do an
extension again. um asking until the end of September. I spoke with uh with LRS and they're fine with that. Um just to give uh give us a little bit more time. I got to work with uh um Flarity um on revising the ordinance and getting
things in place that way. So, >> I like the idea of just bidding it out for the residential um and at least two um for the uh commercial. Especially in my business, I like going back and forth between different ones if I have that
option. Um my only question is if we're working with commercial as far as our own businesses, can we mandate when they come in and not come in? >> Yes, >> we can. >> Yep. We can we can limit the days. >> Okay.
>> Yeah. I had that actually had that conversation with a couple different haulers. We've got another hauler that calls quite a bit wondering where we're at uh with the RFP and and I and I asked about that. He said, "Yeah, you can say you can only be in town this day or two
days." just, you know, coming from like the background that I had, I know like we were busy on the weekends and I think we might have had a little issue with like the days because we needed the dumpster dumped and they were like, "Well, we can't come in." And that got to be a
little frustrating, but I mean, I'm I'm good with like set up in front when they bidding, they they know or Well, they wouldn't be bidding. But yeah, if it's if if you tell them ahead of time, hey, you can only be here these days. >> Yeah. Yeah. But are you talking like
like each each business would be able to say no >> that you know call out? No, >> we as a city would want to make two preferably one day and then have a mechanism for an exception probably if if you need more than one empty if you have empty more than one day a week you
we talk about it and >> yeah I'm thinking like you know again my prior life we we had two times a week where they dumped our dumpster and I'm assuming that they would still be doing that. So I know like for them they would probably want that option to be able to
get to get it dumped to twice a week. I mean maybe not all year but for sure during the you know spring summer. >> Yeah. We just want to limit >> Yeah. I mean I get that every day. I know that I talked to the engineers Bill and Scott and they said from an engineering standpoint the less big
trucks on roads the better. >> Oh for sure. >> Obviously. But they said you know it's >> they're not dead set against it. I don't you know Jeff's opinion too. same thing that uh the less trucks the better but >> but makes sense >> uh to create some competition open it up
that would be a way that we could go >> so we can still think about like which >> yes >> thought we would like >> yeah because we've got a little while yeah I just when I we have to have the process of revising the ordinance which is >> meetings and posting time and things
like that >> that's if we open up to multiple >> if we open up to multiple bid commercial. >> I don't really like the idea of bidding commercial, but um >> yeah, >> then you're stuck. >> Yeah, >> I'm with you. I think I'd rather have as a business owner, I'd rather have an
option. >> And again, it'll be a second. >> It's a fiveyear contract that we typically put out there. So, in five years, if it's not working very well and we'll visit it again, >> but right now, you do need >> a motion to approve the extension of the
existing contract. Is that correct? >> Yep. to the end the last day in September. >> I'll make a motion to approve uh extending the current uh contracts until September 30th. >> Second.
>> Uh any more discussion? All those in favor? >> I passes 30. Uh 7E revised Highlands 7th development agreement. Miles, >> thank you. Acting mayor and council. Um so last meeting or last month I believe
um we saw the highlands development agreement on the council agenda. Um so you've already approved the preliminary final pass for this to move forward. Um and you also approved a draft highlands uh development agreement. Well, we've been negotiating and working with Tony Bigalow on getting this signed and
getting this put together. Um and he made a request uh for an amendment which was to remove uh some fees of $246,000 um for grading and erosion control from the from the cash security. So not our cash requirements but just the security
that would go in escro account. The reasoning is due that it's actually a private improvement rather than a public improvement. So the city won't hold ownership of it afterwards. And so he made the request because he didn't think that that was necessary. Um, our city engineer, Billingermanman, agreed with
him saying that since the city isn't going to be holding this improvement, it's not a requirement to have a security on it because we won't be after. Um, so we updated the agreement to include that. So the cash security that would be required would be in the
amount of 1,38,750. Um, and so we're agreeing that for tonight and he's given us a verbal agreement to sign this agreement as is. No other changes were made and we'll be basically moving forward pretty quickly after that. So just looking for council
guidance on this one. >> I talked to Brian about this one too a little bit earlier and it all made sense of uh of what they're doing and why they're doing it. Yeah, >> I mean we only had he hadn't gone through the entire agreement beforehand either. So this is kind of a new
development too. So he was just basing it off other agreements he has in other cities as well. So that's the reason for the request and we weren't going to do it as long as Bill agreed to it and my clarity our attorney agreed to it as well and they both were comfortable with it. So um we felt that that was okay too
because >> our ordinance also requires 125% of the total improvements anyways. So we already are getting more typical city. We'll >> make a motion to approve the amended
islands development agreement. Second it. Any further discussion? All those in favor? I >> I passes 300. Uh down to 7F. Uh promotion of Sergeant Tony Pasquali to a police chief. Ryan.
>> Yes. Uh we've got Tony in attendance tonight along with his daughter and wife. Um on behalf of the personnel committee and administration, uh we did Tony's interview last evening and he's very impressive. Um, so we're happy to
offer him the the the next police chief position, take over some big boots to fill uh following Chief Callahan. But Tonyy's well prepared. Um, you can see in the memo here uh lots of qualifications. Um,
he's kind of become the go-to the go-to officer for a lot of uh residents of the city, too. the downtown businesses, they like him to be out there directing traffic during their event because he's dancing and kind of stuff. So, so no, he'll be a an
excellent excellent next chief uh following following Chief Callahan. So, um you know, recommending approving hiring Tony Pasquali as our next chief. >> I would say being on the interview panel too, Tony uh interviewed very well. I
thought it's spoke very well. >> Be just looking for a motion. >> I'll make a motion to approve the promotion of Sergeant Tony Pasquali to police chief. >> I guess I'll second.
>> Um, any further discussion? All those in favor? >> I passes 30. Thank you, acting mayor and councel. I'm extremely honored and humbled for this opportunity. uh ever since 2022 when chief uh suggested that I put in for
that sergeant position to to have that first step in leadership. Um he's done a great job preparing the department for transition but also setting myself up for success to continue the the legacy that he's paved forward to us bringing us up to a 247 agency bringing on some
frontline supervision improving our evidence and reporting. So, I'm looking forward to uh continuing to serve the SROA citizens, businesses, our our annual visitors in the best way that I can. Again, thank you, >> Tony.
>> Uh, which brings us to our next one, 7G, uh, police charge, police sergeant physician recruitment. >> Since, uh, since we're moving Tony out of the sergeant position, that leaves an opening. And so we would like to get
that posted uh tomorrow morning uh with your approval. Um let's see. I gotta find my memo here. The ad I kind of move things around here. There we go. Um so yeah, we want to get a get someone in
here and get them going. Uh get him or her going. Um in case there's a a FDO training period, that's a few months uh typically. Um, so want to get them in, get them going, and u and we propose using the uh the safety dollars if need
be. Uh, using uh the public safety dollars to cover the overlap because uh Sergeant Pasquali will still be in his position when we bring the next sergeant in. Um, uh, Tony will be able to do a
lot of the FDO training, uh, as the sergeant still before he takes over on August 11th or before he moves into the the chief position on August 11th in conjunction with Chief Callahan. There's a two-eek overlap there, too. But, uh, but yeah, so we're asking to post this
right away um, and get interviews set. I've got a timeline on there, pretty specific timeline. Um, you know, it be open for two weeks. It's set to to post tomorrow morning if you guys approve it uh already. Miranda did that for us. U so yeah, be open until the 19th and then
we would want to interview the next week after that um and uh and get that position filled. Um you know, if we had someone that uh didn't necessarily need all the training, we would adjust the the start date for that position accordingly. Um which would require less
safety dollars as well. I'll make a motion to uh approve the police sergeant position recruitment post. >> I just have one question and this is going to be to chief and to future
chief. Um this is having this second sergeant the seventh officer is really what you guys think is best for this community, right? >> Correct. >> Okay. >> Yeah. We we discussed it before uh
hiring Sergeant Miner and that's why we went with that sergeant position initially um was to give the more roundthe-clock supervision and then also having the ability to have schedules uh be covered adequately. So, if someone takes time off or we're sending them to
training, uh, instead of having to use overtime dollars, we already have that person that we just slide the sergeant from that midshift to cover a night shift or bump up a couple hours to cover part of the day shift in conjunction with the chief of police.
>> How much does it usually cost for training somebody new coming in for like a three-month? >> You mean like what the training period would be? >> Yeah. Well, as an example, uh, Sergeant Miner here, we we trained her for 30
days. And for her, certainly, she just really had to learn the lay of the land in supervisory uh duties, not so much to be a police officer. Um, someone fresh out of out of school, um, in an in an entry- level position. You're you're
looking at about 120 days of training. So, 3 to four months. Um, there's a lot to to train there. Experienced staff, you kind of have to gauge it based on their experience. >> Council, Council Member Rash, if you're
looking at strictly just for a dollar amount kind of figure, just figure you're basically adding an extra employee. Um, and you figure a yearly rate, we just right off the top of our head with equipment, insuranceances, everything. It's about $120,000 a year for an employee in that position.
So, if you're talking three months, just divide it by four and you'd be talking about $30,000. >> Is it impossible then to have that person start when you're done for the training to start? Then >> I I think the goal here is to do our
best to leave the department whole. Um any setback and especially in that time frame. I know there's a lot of people that already have approved time off. We don't want to infringe on that certainly. Um but it it's kind of like
what we've tried to do. Um we we can't be because of because we're a small community. we can't afford um when we especially when we know we're going to have a vacancy, we can't do the well, you can't fill it till it's vacated. We
can't do that anymore. We got to be ahead of the game. We got to be proactive. And you know, maybe that's something that you guys really need to look at in that in that perspective. And so far, you you've been doing that with us. you've been allowing us to be proactive because you know depending on
how you know what educ or what experience that person has we that person's not ready until they're done with FTO that means you can't let they can't go solo until then and and in this particular position especially this
person there's minimum requirements here pe people have to have the experience so that's why we figure at we're figuring around 30 days. It could potentially be less. We don't know if it's someone, let's say it's someone that that works
currently in the county and knows the system here very well. That's more knowledge that that person has coming into the into the position. So, it really just depends on who the candidates are and how we go. >> And I suppose like over the years, like
everything else, you have less part-time guys that are available to fill in anywhere. Realistically, we have one right now >> most available. The others have full-time jobs. Uh, and it's it's tough to get them if they're working a night
shift to say, "Hey, uh, either you got to take off vacation for part of your night shift at your full-time job to come work a day shift for us or figuring out some other thing. Really, the the time of employing part-time officers is dwindling fast.
um it's not providing the highest level of service that we should be providing to community members because their usage is so infrequent. We're not able to keep them up with crime trends, with reporting requirements, uh with, you know, they're meeting the state minimums
for training, but they're missing out on some of the other ones because we're not paying for them to come in and do all the same training as our full-time staff where it truly is a disservice to the community to uh put some of these part-timers in this position where uh
they're not unfortunately adequately prepared or in the loop of what's going on with our city. It's not a to discredit them in the service they've provided, but um we need to move to the era of looking at this is a professional agency that's full-time and we need to
keep it at that pace. Um if we were to wait until August 20th when Pat retires to fill this position, we're going to be short then for covered bridgefest. Public safety for the parade route would suffer. Um there's too many things going
on this summer especially that um we wouldn't be adequately prepared for for and then that may require the city to contract with the sheriff's office for an additional body to help out with covered bridgefest with the parade where you're going to be taking on that expense somewhere else because we
wouldn't have the staffing. So, I'd like to avoid that as the new incoming chief. >> And and like uh Brian said too, we do have a buffer here with the public safety dollars. This is a a a wise use of the funds that we have and there's
certainly adequate funding in there to cover this uh if needed. So, this is not affecting the current budget one way either way in that sense. And we will adjust the start date depending on the candidates or whoever
we decide on. We can say, "Hey, that's not going to require much training." Well, we'll adjust the start date till closer to the change. We do have a motion. Do we have a second? >> Any further discussion? All those in
favor? All right, passes 300. Uh, on to reports. Brian. >> Uh, yeah, we had our, uh, North Subro Sanitary District meeting on Wednesday. Of course, I think I said that last time that we received $12 million of state
bonding. That $12 million requires a match. The 10 million that we received originally did not require a match, but this 12 million does. So, there's a lot of decisions to be made on on what we do and when. Um the engineers are putting together a a comprehensive update for
all the councils uh for it'll probably be next meeting um or possibly the meeting in July uh depending on well there's all kinds of regulatory things and all kinds of decisions and we want to have a really good update for you u at that time. So so that'll be
coming. Uh that's all I've got. >> All right. Um, have you >> Morgan, do you have anything for tonight? >> No, I do not. Unless you guys have anything for me.
>> Nope. All right, Chief. Um, just a couple of things. Um, I I got a phone call today from Bill Everett of the uh patrol online, which is one of the training uh resources we've used uh for many many many many years. It's an
online resource. Most agencies in the state of Minnesota use it. It's a product through the League of Minnesota Cities. Um it it uh helps us with, for instance, all our OSHA training we do through there. um uh it it provides quite a bit of uh
your classroom kind of stuff, keeping us uh current with required training as well. Um and so I I got a call from him today. He uh read in the legislative session recently the renaming of a portion of our highway to the Gary
Schroeder Jr. Memorial Highway. And so he did a little bit of looking into that and learned about Gary's story and they he's working on a a mental health awareness course and wants to use some
of the information about Gary um in that in that training. And so he reached out and wanted permission to do that and hopefully get some photos to add u to uh the training. And so I I I feel very
honored that they feel that that's that important as well that they want to share that with the entire state of Minnesota. Um and so it's not very often that you know real officers are used unless it's case law stuff. You know
that's case law. You you get to know who the players are. This is a you know part of Zamroda here. And so um talked to his wife and asked her for uh that permission and if she had photos that she would be willing to share. And so
she provided me with photos and it's it's it's good that uh you know our our league is really looking out and promoting more mental health awareness and so forth. So very uh very good to hear that. Um, with that said, um, also
in regards to, uh, the committee here with hiring, I am very happy on the decision to hire Sergeant Pasquali to fill my role. Um, this is what I've been planning for quite some time. Um it's
important to look for the uh the strengths of your all your staff and you know being that uh Tony started here as a part-time officer very happy where he was as a full-time uh communications uh
uh employee at another agency yet I could see his strengths as a leader and you know having that opportunity to um get him on board as a sergeant and to mentor and
mold him into the pos to the point where he can take on this role. It to me it's an honor and I I'm I'm glad that uh I got to be part of that. It's it's really nice to be able to pass the baton to
something that you helped shape and so I'm very happy for Tony and his family. uh he is absolute asset to this community and uh he will serve it very well. So thank you for seeing it that same way.
>> Yep. >> Kim Miles, >> nothing tonight. >> I do not have anything tonight. Yes, I got the significant Absolutely.
Yeah, the other one was a $10 million cash. at some point. Well, the sanitary district that's kind of the update that they're working people want what you ask them.
>> No, you know, and go back to work, but there's people that are professionals that are doing this and that's what they say we need. And we hired him to make that call and that's when everything position.
>> Yes. In my eyes to the people over here listen to Jeff. I mean so >> how am I supposed to say no? And I got to leave my side. >> I was told this about
when he got on. Once you get in there, there's more to it than just sitting outside. >> Like today, I did my 3:30 discussion right away. I negative. Well, >> we want we want to be the real deal.
>> Well, that's that's what I got to sign it twice. >> I know. I don't know. >> I wondered about that. That's right. >> My old barber shops. >> Yeah.
>> You know, >> that that's like me telling you how to mow lawn or you telling me how do you do? >> Yeah. >> Even after these questions that I ask against well and it does I mean
you know Tony's Tony's invested too because he is in the city so anytime he gets a raise and I know I know it's a small port truck but he's paying for it so he's getting 3% % raise and it's not a true 3% raise because you still got to
pay part of that 2% you know what percentage is taxing that's all and I even have a problem that far employees and deep down I have a problem you know it's like
work to live in the city but I know we can't put that in there >> yeah that's hard So they don't raise but I I truly believe people I truly trust them >> just because they live
>> they want to go to the wider model just small stuff like seen two of them. >> Yeah, I think Ben Boy >> and we don't have the we had the think it was their ide.
Well, still we're called >> basically Facebook again. >> Yeah. >> Different different wayges and >> you do the great work.
>> Don't keep it up. you do for another 20 years. >> Your daughter's older than the last time I saw her. She was just a newborn the basement for you. >> Soy now
finally retired. >> She did. Yeah, we're we're vested in being here to talk as well. >> Very excited to be here. Future.