This conference will now be recorded. >> Welcome to the Zamrona Park Board on May 4th, 226. May 4th, 2026 is what I'm trying to say. We're going to call to order the meeting tonight. And we have an agenda. I was wondering if I could add in the
discussion on unfinished business. See, a pickle ball surround and basketball surround. And then on D, I want to mention a signage for the disc golf behind the main entrance sign,
a disc golf map. Just a little talk about them. Nothing in the works except for pickle ball. I need to revisit >> and the disc golf too. If we could add that to it about the T boxes
>> T boxes turn it on. Is it on >> just a quick push on the Yep. >> Okay. Thanks. >> Before we got too far. That would have been a disaster.
>> True. Move to approve agenda as amended. >> That way with the additions and opposed. >> Okay. Thanks for adding those. And then we have minutes from last month, April
6th. Make a motion to approve the minutes from April 6th. 2026. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I opposed. >> Thank you. Minutes passed.
>> And then we have accounts payable of $8,1528. There's nobody on staff this summer, right? For Parkford >> for the >> lifeguards. You mean >> there was like a seasonal
>> seasonal? >> I think yeah, there's a there's a breakdown. It's Yeah, we split it into percentages on based on mowing and stuff like that. So, yeah, we actually >> Miranda, can you turn your microphone on? >> Yep.
one or two years ago there was like a seasonal temporary staff added backward to help with and other gardening things around the park. >> Yep. Yeah. This year it's right down to percentages. So even like our wellhouses and stuff we're keeping track pretty tight on that >> nice
>> sewer plant and everything >> that won't be reflected on here right on the income table. >> What is the insurance for the workers comp and the general liability? Is that for the pool?
>> No, I'm guessing that's for just >> I'm guessing just for the property. >> Got it. >> Yeah, the workers comp is probably assessed to I would say a portion of Adam's wages. >> Oh, yeah. Because Adam's out of park. >> Who's that? >> Adam.
>> Adam Bay. >> Oh, okay. I'll make a motion to approve the accounts payable. >> I'll second I and uh opposed. Thank you. Council payable passes for
the bill this month. And we have space for public comment at this time. >> We take 602. No, I'm sorry. That's it. All right. Approval update on uh letter A. >> Yeah, I can handle that one. Uh we're
just uh well, you heard that the council approved moving forward uh with the abatement uh which kicked the pool uh kicked the pool loose. So, we're we're ready to roll. Uh we're just waiting for contracts. Um they were uh last I heard some of the contracts were on the on the
bonding agency's desks waiting for uh for the bonding uh and insurance certificate things like that. I have several emails I need to read actually tonight. So I think a couple of the two of the three uh contracts are are here.
I just need to get those signed. Um and Burbach is eager to set a pre-construction meeting as soon as possible. So, good news. >> Does this still keep us on track for projection to be open next summer, right? >> Uh, yes. Yeah, we haven't talked about
that yet. Um, we're a little bit into the initial construction start, but yeah, I think uh, you know, that's still the plan. >> Okay. Thank you. Thank you everybody. Um if that's okay, we'll move on to a capital planning discussion in the
letter B. Um was that something that I had on there from the document that's just kind of lingering? >> Yeah, it's just kind of a lingering thing. So, if we want to talk about it, we can. If you guys are still
I don't know, >> Brian, you were kind of the leader of this one. So, >> sure. Yeah, I was uh still reviewing that. It's quite a document. Appreciate all the time you put into that. Um but I think you're on the right track as far as what you added tonight. Um you know,
kind of finishing up what we started uh for now. Uh you know, let's get that Frisbee golf tea boxes signs. Um, you know, whole numbers I think would be good, too. Uh, let's get that done. And then, um, um, campground bath house is well
underway. Um, I can't remember what else we have that that was started and not finished, but but I think for for at least this summer, uh, finishing those things is a good goal. And then, uh, yeah, keep reviewing the the the big plan and and move into
the the pickle ball court and and that type of stuff. um as part of that u uh capital planning moving forward. >> Yeah, >> that's my recommendation. You guys are the board, so do what you want. But >> anybody chew on that or have any advice
or add auditions or retractions on it? Still still a lot to chew on. >> Yeah, it's a lot. It's good. It's great though. >> Yeah. Mike, did you want me to contact Bo or were you contacting Bo um Kennedy for
for that grant you had talked about or is that something we're going to look at doing because I think Bo wanted to to get together and talk about that if if that's something we're going to look at. >> Yeah, the deadline for that grant passed. It was too much of a press. So, I thought we just make an appointment at
a better time. But, uh there was an exchange between Bo Kennedy of the Water Conservation District. He did the prior project along the river branks with the native plantings >> and then um I asked him to um what's the word be like a
sign off for the grant application and he's like I would like to meet with the city and see if we're going to work together going forward before I sign anything. And so I I kind of had a couple days too much press on that and I was like we'll just move it. But still he's in good spirits and very willing to
cooperate. So, the discussion carries forward >> and we'll just chase down another grant. Hopefully, it'll be like next spring. I don't think they have one in the uh twice a year. It' be like once a year. There's money on the table and we'll just have to sign documents and commit
to something and get the partners to do it. That's that's the plan with this capital planning and other things. We've all seen it. >> Okay. >> All right. Good deal. Yeah. We'll we'll work on getting together with both sometime between now and and next
spring. Good. >> Nope. Now and next parkour meeting. >> Perfect. Perfect. We'll do that. >> Okay. That's that's my that's my priority on myself there. Um
what else? One thing I wish I had prepared was an accounting balance of uh what's in our accounts right now to talk about the next issue or next topic which is pickle ball. And we we voted on like a $100,000 project. And I would like to see like
what we have in the accounts that we have to spend this year going forward on our priority list. >> And I don't have that number. So I wish I had that tonight. Sorry. I can get that in the email tonight and tomorrow, I'm sure. Um, but let's move into letter
C and talk about are we still in agree agreements? What happened to the pickle ball project? And >> Jeff, have you heard about any um process or >> No, I I guess going back to that, I don't know if there was actually a vote
to move forward with that. I know we went through dollars, you know, of what Pine Island spent. So, I guess I'd have to look back to see if there was actually a motion to proceed. I don't recall one. >> Okay, we'll double check on that in the
minutes. >> Yeah, I'd be interested to I don't remember exactly either. >> Believe we go back on kind of tidying up what we had and then we were with anticipation of the pool. >> I do too. I think that's accurate. um that we were kind of hurry up and wait
because we're waiting to see what was going to happen with the pool and where that was going to get voted through before we committed to anything else. That's how I remember, but I wouldn't count on it. >> In agreement with that, that's kind of
where I believe we left it. So what >> yeah I would say staff staff city staff recommendation would be to finish what we started this year and then move into the bigger things um you know going into next year because I don't think the dollar is you know the pickle ball
courts those are that's a lot of money um which is fine but uh I think you know rather than getting on another project now um we got to finish that that frisbee frisbee golf people use it quite a bit um already and I think it'll get
used more if it's if it's done right. So, so uh you recommendation from staff would be to concentrate on the on the things that were already started this year and then let's move into the bigger these other ideas uh which are wonderful ideas um you know maybe next year or you
know later this year and then we just keep talking about it along the way but uh I wouldn't anticipate that you're going to have the dollars to do the pickle ball courts um yet this year. Good advice. Good advice. And then uh what do you guys think about spending money this year versus putting it all in
an envelope for the pool or at least like divvy up each month we say hey we got or quarter we say this much goes to the pool this much goes to our project list or just holding off this year on
>> on spending. >> Yeah. Yeah. I would say that we're, you know, the the pool dollars are are in an account for the pool and we've continued to levy those. We're going to need operating dollars for the pool. Um I've spoken to Kim about if we can peel any
more out of there to to lower the abatement. Um and uh yet to be seen on that. Uh you know, Kim's pretty conservative, which I appreciate. Uh you know, in the dollars that we're going to need there for operating. So, so I think those pool dollars, you know, that it'll kind of come out of there if if if
anything goes. Uh, of course, uh, you know, parkboard wise, I I don't know that you want to put any more dollars towards it. You you've got some initiatives that you need to finish. So, uh, we appreciate that, but, uh, something we can look at. >> Uh, oh, silence. Did I lose everybody?
>> Nobody's swearing at me yet, so that's good. >> Could you um remind us about like the cost and the timeline of the disc golf and pickle ball stuff because I wasn't here last
year, so I'm not sure like how to how to decide. >> Oh, for sure. Let's start with uh we'll reorganize the priority as this meeting and like three topics here. First, we should get the disc golf because it's the eldest and easiest. Um second is the
bath house campground which already has funds committed to it and should already be in the works but we need to finish it. And then third, we'll talk about future projects such as pickle mall and other things. >> What do you guys think of that order of priority?
probably almost has to be that way because of the money. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. And I don't I don't recall the dollars that we're going to need for the pickle ball court. We'd have to go back and and look at that or or maybe have Jeff run down some more >> costs on on the concrete pad. Uh which
would be the most expensive part, I guess. Um and then and then signs were going to be sponsored possibly, but that was uh I think that was was it Steve Johnson that was going to sponsor the sign? So, uh, maybe Mosaic would like to sponsor the
big sign. Um, we'll just need to go out and chase that stuff down. In 2023, it was 147,000 for the pickle ball courts. That's what PI's cost them in 2023.
And that was for the boards, the um coating on the concrete. And that's what else? >> The upper chain link fence. That was like a 7,000. Yeah. Having a coated upper cage fence. Yeah. >> For retainage. >> Yeah.
>> You know, balls and >> and that would be on existing concrete. >> Yeah. >> Slide this there. Each disc golf pad requires a slab of concrete which costs money, some woods around and then a nice sign with a laminated UV resistant sign
which you know you can imagine 18 holes say few hundred each. You know we going into the thousands. A sign that would be large. Um maybe the campground sign. Do you remember a cost on that? Like a few hundred dollar for the big campground
sign with the prices on it. That wasn't terrible. Did I have P and K print that or did I >> where we left the panel? Is that where you're thinking? >> No, the one that has the prices
>> when you go into I think I had PNK print that one. Let me pull it. I'll pull that one up. >> So already has funds allocated for it and the disc golf doesn't yet. Okay. So that's kind of >> No, we're trying to put
tea boxes and um hole markers. >> What am I forgetting? >> Each basket would have ability to have a sponsor. >> Yeah, thank you.
>> But it was kind of it didn't really like some of the baskets got sponsors, which still is a thing that you could do. But the holes are already all there just to spruce them up and >> make them more user friendly. And
>> and you guys for you can do this app >> and there's a layout of the whole coverage park >> and if we just take that get high depth and put on the back of the front sign just a few hundred bucks and there you got a layout of the whole course.
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. It's just getting that picture high >> dollars for that. >> Yeah, >> it's pretty large. >> 500 bucks for a front sign and then each hole would be several hundred bucks.
>> It may be more than that though. Well, obviously actually probably will be more than that just because it's a different year and all that, but I would probably have him design it rather than me. Um whereas he just printed the one last
time. So >> just take that picture. >> Uhuh. >> Each hole we can do later diagram >> yardage >> and we were going to have >> Well, maybe volunteers could help with
this and share the cost recruit. Maybe the park board just wants to direct staff to to put all those costs together. Um so we've got those costs for the for the next meeting. Um and then if we can find some volunteers to do some of that stuff or you know we
know concrete people maybe they'd be willing to help us out. Uh you know maybe public works can do some of it too. Sorry Jeff pretty busy summer but >> yeah if you could. But I think maybe first of all, let's get the cost,
reassess the cost as to what what we're looking at here. >> Dig a rectangle, frame a rectangle, and dig a post and see how much we can start. >> Bath house. I am under the impression we've already spent $200,000 on this uh
campground plus the grant money. And so the bath house has been >> funded. It's waiting on a safety permit as of last spring. That's the last I heard on it. >> Nope. It's it's moving. It's uh plumbing passed and the floor is poured. Um Randy
Krauss is ordering block this week. So then the block will go up. We've had the door frames since late last summer. So those will get laid in with the block. Um, >> yeah, we have that hardware. Um, I got a hold of uh the
uh Amish group that put the bid in for doing the framing, the roof, and then this steel on the inside and and the roof they have changed hands, but I got a hold of the new owner and he's ready whenever. So, yeah, we're basically
we're clicking pretty good right now. So, >> any incoming bills for that that we'll see on EP? >> Uh, we'll start Yep. We'll start seeing billing again now. Um, Randy poured the floor, so that'll come in. He took a partial payment for his work to date last year. So, everybody's kind of
basically they caught up at that where we kind of stalled out there. So, >> now we'll start billing back out again. >> But that has been considerable amount of spending on that. And so when we lack that project spent versus what we did
kind of transparency going on. So we got we got to track that down and put a chart out there. >> When do we think that's going to be done, Jeff? Any ballpark? Uh >> contractors can, you know, stay on pace. You know,
>> I' I'd like to be done in three months. >> Cool. But that's, you know, optimistic if everybody can hold, you know, hold tight when I I've been trying to get a hold of everybody, you know, within a couple weeks advance of when they the other contractors supposed to be finishing up.
>> Yeah. >> You know, just to keep on keep on them, let them know. So >> awesome. >> Be nice to see that one get put to bed and get done and put them use. >> Yeah. Exterior concrete yet this year. Get our path tied in and get landscaping done would be, you know, ideal. Yeah, it
looks phenomenal back there, by the way. It's really nice. Even with all the campers in and stuff. It's well used. It looks great. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Vision is coming true. >> Yeah, it's nice back there. It's better than I could have ever thought it was
going to be. It's And I live, you know, you could throw a rock and hit the campers and it's like I mean, you don't even know they're there. It's like it's great. It's great use of our park. So, >> I think all all about three of your
permanence in the new stalls are there. So, we're in and going. So, >> and I thought if you're going to surround that court that the other basketball court could use a fence to catch the balls too and not chase them. But it's good exercise. But, you know,
guys want to chat about that or we can move on. There's a letter from Donnie Hol, our campground host. Not quite a letter. I put the memo together, but it was just thoughts from
Donnie. So, Donniey's going to be taking less vacation, so less time away from the campground. So, he said that we were taking $600 off of Neil's >> um permanent site for when he was
substituting because he thought it would be like six times, but now that's cutting. he's cutting that back quite a bit. So, he thought it would maybe be easier if we maybe just said $100 per time that he substitutes because that's
kind of what it ended up being. Um, >> is that for like a week that he's gone or what? >> I'm not Yeah, I'm not sure how often that he's gone. I know if he's going to pull his camper out, he's going to be gone for a few
days at least. >> Yeah. Neil has been around for several years. >> Y >> sounds like it'll be a savings anyway. So >> yeah. And I think I think Neil had been doing it for quite a few years without any
compensation too if that >> Yeah, >> if that makes a difference. >> Well, and I was going to say like if he doesn't know I mean he says on here he's anticipated to be gone about three times, but like is that something that we can reimburse him at the end of the season? Because if he's not gone more
than three times and we only reimburse him $300, you know what I mean? So, is that something where >> Yeah. >> If we can do it, I mean it I have no problem doing it. I just don't want to discount him like $300 and then Donnie is only gone for a week. You know what I mean? >> Oh, right. Yep. Yep.
>> That's So, I don't mind like reimbursing him, but maybe just wait till the end of the season to reimburse him depending on when he's gone. >> Sure. Put him a check instead. >> Yeah. Sure. Yeah, >> that was kind of my thought on it. Just because if he doesn't know how many times he's going to be gone or if he
does, great. And then we can go off of that. But >> Sure. >> I just don't want to get burnt for spending more than when he's actually gone. >> Sure. >> That almost sounds like a motion. >> I mean, it was a suggestion, not really
a motion, but I could turn it into a motion. Um, I'll make a motion to uh reimburse Neil towards the end of the season depending on how much Don is gone and it will be
$100 per occurrence. >> I second. Moving on to Coverbridge Park from the publisher the news record. Mr. Grimwood is he the publisher publisher. >> You want me to take that one? Miranda,
>> please. >> Sure. >> All right. Yeah, David was in the So, he's always got good ideas. if you've ever talked to him, he is he's fun to talk to. Uh but he he basically to me this is more of a summary of what mostly what we have here down there already. Um
but he did have some questions. Uh he wanted to know about the future use of the waste treatment plant space and I told him that we were considering that area for for a dog park at some point because that's discussions that we've had. Um also we're going to maybe use part of that space for a salt storage or
sand storage building. Um, Pioneer Trail. Mike, are you are you on that committee? The Pioneer Trail Committee uh in place of Roxan Bart. I can't remember who was taking that over. >> Yeah, I made an effort to contact her. It didn't go anywhere. So, I'll try
again, >> but I good. Yep. So, I told them we were keeping tabs on that and and that u you know, one of the one of the park board members was was involved with the with the U committee that's looking at that. Um, and of course, uh, David thinks we
need a town ball team. Um, so, so he wants to see a big baseball field down there where they can drink beer. Uh, that that'll keep a town ball team going. Uh, but again, just ideas. He just wanted us to pass this along to the and and they're great ideas and and he's
just he's wonderful uh with ideas and great ideas. I think uh you know something that uh a town ball field would be way down the road in my opinion that that would take some effort after the sewer plant um um has been moved of
course but but I think that that bears consideration uh by the park board at that time. So anyway just just information I believe from from David I'm hoping more and more um descriptive more of a
visual just have it everywhere we we can put it. >> Yeah, I say >> something to put in their long-term comprehensive long-term plan possibly. I say we chase down the uh twins and MLB
and get some more lights and scoreboard uh generosity. >> I don't know how often we get that twin. >> We'll have to call the twins committee known as Troy. >> I was gonna say I drive by him when I go home. I'll just stop in his yard someday
and be like, "Hey, Troy. We're taking care of bro or sand and dirt on top of that. >> I have not heard anything from him on that, but um yeah, we did set his poles for him. So he I think he is probably looking for volunteers for stretching
chain link to finish those dugouts up if anybody is I think all the poles everything is attached. We did that a couple weeks ago. So >> that establishment of parks and trail board. We uh had a chance to document
but let's see where we're at now. >> Yeah. Did Did you Did someone pass along comments? I don't recall uh making any edits. If if I need to, I certainly can. But that that's kind of my question. Uh do we want to move this forward? Uh do we want to make more edits? Does it look
good? Is it uh you know, where are we at with that? And maybe I missed some some comments. I I don't remember. Sorry if I did. I'm not fully sure with myself on what I'm what I would change or keep or if it's just fine.
>> I and I I I think I had our city attorney look at it already. Uh, but I'll run it back by them again and then maybe uh maybe I'll put an actual ordinance number on it and then bring it back to the next park board meeting and and if you're good with it, then we can bring it to the council uh for a first
reading after that and then get it done in uh June and then then you guys will have the the trails as well. when you were brought in and you signed that weird oath. Is >> that weird or worth keeping or we could
change the way we write it up here? >> It was fine. >> Yeah, I did it for the ADA committee too. Basically the same thing. >> It was weirder that time because I had to stand up there.
I'll note that for next >> we can stand up. >> All right. Send communications about that parks and trail board. This is our chance to set it up for the future.
>> Yeah. Sometime within the next month. If you have anything you want me to change in there, let me know. I'll run it by our city attorney again. just just to make sure everything's buttoned up and then uh yeah, we'll move it forward at the next park board meeting if if if that's the way you want to go.
>> Now or never. Now or next park meeting. >> Thank you, Brian. >> Thank you. >> I got one more question and I should have asked this is back on the pool. um they're still doing fundraising for it. Is there still a fundraising committee?
And if there is, who's in charge of the fundraising committee just to make sure that we got them moving forward with that? >> Yeah, I was going to ask about the fundraiser committee, too. So, >> yep. I've been in contact with them. Brena Nez is is still the uh the the de
facto chair of that committee. Um and um yeah, we should be able to get something moving here. Um, you know, I've been I've been out of town. Uh, so I I don't think they've been been doing anything yet. But, uh, really what we've
what we've got to do is get back to the bigger companies. Um, including some contacts that that one of our our members, uh, Paul Peterman had with, uh, uh, Treasure Island, um, Redwing Shoe, uh, and some of those bigger type places. So, yes, fundraising is is
ongoing and they all know that uh um that was part of uh uh the the the council moving the pool forward with the abatement with the thought that we're going to we're going to lower that as much as we possibly can in the meantime. Um you know, I think we have a good chance of of getting some more
fundraising dollars now that we've got a project. It's easier to fundra for a project that actually is going to be a project, not a a theoretical project. So, we've got numbers. We've got uh you know, some specific item line item numbers that we had split out on the bids uh that we can put out there if
people want to uh you know uh purchase a certain piece of the buildings or piece of the equipment uh that type of stuff. So, yes, uh that's a a long answer to yes, fundraising seeing is going to continue and and it'll get going again shortly.
>> Thank you. Um, one other thing while I'm thinking about it, let's see if I can pull this up quick. Um, the what the timeline looks like for the abatement is let's see. Okay, so
Oh, nope. That's not it. Can't wait. There we go. So from here on out with the abatement uh where are we at? Uh June 18th uh at the city council meeting, we will city council will call for the sale of the
general obligation bonds at 6 pm. Um we've got a ratings call with standard employees on the week of June 29th. July 2nd there'll be a preliminary official statement published. July 16th,
aliers will accept bids and the council will meet and award those geo bonds on on July 16th as well. And we will receive the money uh bond close on August 6th. So, um the pool will be well underway then. We'll uh pay bills in the
meantime with the dollars that we fundraised. Um and uh and then yeah, then we'll get the bond dollars after that. So, Is there anything from city council that you want to share that we need to think about or move forward with?
>> Um, that was just kind of my question with the uh um fundraising to keep that one moving. >> Yeah. >> So, thank you, Brian. >> You bet. Yeah. Have you got any feedback, Bob, from the any citizens since the vote went down for the pool?
Either way, good or bad? >> Both ways. >> Yeah. >> And kind of the same before the vote. >> 50/50. >> Yep. >> So, >> but the vote went through, so that's how we proceed. >> Yep. >> We did we did present to the school
board to to ask them to participate in the abatement. uh they would have, you know, they would have had to give us some dollars every year, which is basically out of one pocket into another. Um and uh they declined that. They don't even know where their their funding is going to be um from the state
yet. So, uh it was a good meeting. They listened to us and and debated, had good discussion, but ultimately they just couldn't uh commit to participating. So, so we're at 20 years for the abatement. Um, and uh, yeah, it'll be a little less than
five bucks a month on a $300,000 house. Hopefully, hopefully quite a bit less so. So, we can, you know, bring some good fundraising money up to Fancy. Go ahead. We're fancy. >> I didn't hear what you said.
>> We're fancying a motion of Brian. >> That's what I thought you were going for, but I was like, uh, I don't know how I should feel about this. I will entertain a motion to adjurnn. >> Second. and approved. >> I mean, >> I
>> thank you everybody. >> Thank you. >> We're doing great. >> Thank you. >> That was a good chat. >> I'm gonna go home and email Brea.