this conference will now be recorded why starting anything a dayare center you mean a daycare center no let's start the parkboard meeting tonight March 3D 2025 welcome everybody
we have an agenda here in front of us I was wondering if for new business I could add C re reusing the pool f for a pickle ball half court fence you can roll it up and post it or something like that some
kind of project like that to think about and D I have a catalog of native seeds cost around 300 bucks to buy like bags of seeds and I was wondering if you guys want a project like
that some I'll make a motion to approve the agenda with the additions that stated second all in favor I opposed and I passed second
I'll make a motion to approve the previous minutes I'll second all right accounts pay aable to look at next for just to let you know that sh electric bill that's still paral
not what percentage of that is left Mike just the B what is whks and Company for pool em I should say C engineer engineering that's uh that was the
uh oh what's the word Mike the runoff the environmental impact stuff for the new pool I'll make a motion to approve the accounts payable pable pass thank you okay
we have public comment at this time and we have a guest tonight or yeah yep okay I think most of you probably know me I'm and the guest Campground host when
Donnie's gone and things are changing now there no doubt and are changing for me also I've been doing this for a few years and now this year I also have a seasonal spot so in the past benefits
for my efforts is I had free camping with full hookups while Donnie was gone now I don't because I had the full full-time seasonal spot I was wondering if
maybe I could get a creditor discount on my location for the efforts that I put in uh I can give you an idea how much Che excuse
me uh it comes to about 15 days a year and only thing that I was getting before is free camping with full hookups so did
a little math you know it's just an idea uh most places to go private places full hookup site is like
6065 like uh B City full hookup is like 45 well I I don't want to be greedy anything I just think figering 15 days for $40 would be about 600 bucks that I
gaining for working if I could get a discount like that I'd be more more than happy so and he's probably thinking that well that's an easy job well it is
but the hours are terrible if you're aake if you're awake you're hosting and sometimes you're not hosting sometimes you're referee and you know and the weekenders when they come in
and opened up the coolers and the party's on now I gotta try to keep the noise down here so that if anybody wants to go to sleep you know and and sometimes collecting the money can be a challenge too for one one person
is I have in mind that's kind of comical he's an older boy from uh up by cities but he's he's there quite often you go to collect the money he goes well I want my senior's discount I said well one you're old
enough he'll get it he's about 80 years old if you want me a leave while you talking over I'm having no problem with that neighbor $50 per per sees water sites
[Music] electric electric water s but on on the positive side for the park I'm paying for my electric [Music] this so well every year he has to go to
uh Wisconsin for the National Truck and Tractor poll so that that's a few days and there's a few weekends where he's him and family and friends go to local lakes and stuff which is fine you know have no problem with that and I enjoy it
uh made a lot of new friends down there we definitely need a mutual relationship for someone who's going to take care of our Campground so it has to be we can trust Neil he can trust us to support him and everything's safe and sound and so what you're asking for is
$600 disc for this yeah I I'd be real happy at that we get what do we give Donnie for doing his part free it's free it's free okay that's what I thought yeah I see no problem with the
request I think it's fair I make a motion that we Grant the $600 discount for services rendered I think that's fair and I'll second that all in favor I and any
opposed thank thank you very much bringing forward we I wouldn't have thought of that so thank you what's that I said thank you for bringing that forward yeah I wouldn't have thought of that thank you it's like I say if you're awake you're hosting thank you very much yep thank
you thank you [Music] yeah it was very recent request good job moving on to unfinished business the pool committee is still isn't isn't is functioning so it's not
finished yet and do you want to give information out or sure we just received uh a $3,200 check from the American Legion for the pancake breakfast that was a free will donation um there was one bigger there was a $500 donation as
part of that so 2,700 bucks for pancakes and a $500 one uh so 3,200 bucks or yeah that that quites yeah um helps out I think we're about 535,000 give or take now Miranda does
that sound right about 535,000 raised um so that put us at 3,535 um which which leaves a little over a million left which is a big gap yet um so there might have to be some decisions at some point um we'd like to get to at
least a million dollars before we start uh which gives us till the end of May approximately so um the committee's out visiting with businesses and that hasn't been fruitful so far but um it has been a little bit tough to get into some of the businesses um they're gone or
whatever's been going on so um the committee is they've got all the materials and they're out and about so hopefully we'll start bringing some more in um I did have a conversation with Kim and there is a little bit of operating
money uh that we could pull more more operating uh from the existing pool and from what we levied and still be comfortable with having the operating dollars there when the pool opens the new pool opens in 2026 but we can talk more about that as as we as we move
forward if needed uh we can pull some more uh roughly $175,000 give or take so we could uh if if we need to do that to get to that million dollars to get started of course I think that's something that we would ask ask you to
do for sure but we'll know each month that goes by let's see what is it this is the March meaning April oh yeah we're going to need we're going to need some next month we'll have to talk about that possibly uh design continues to move
forward we had some discussion on um chlorine for the pool uh liquid or gas um Public Works they use gas everywhere in town uh not everywhere in town but everything we've got for chlorine is gas right now um so the the questions are do
we you know liquid is supposed to be much safer and much easier to train new staff on you know we have got great staff now that they know how to use gas know how to handle it there we haven't had any mishaps but uh what I'm told is that liquid is is much safer and in a
new pool facility uh I'm getting a lot of recommendations to go with with liquid chlorine rather than the gas I don't know if the parkboard has got a feeling either way I spoke to Brad Thatcher from Thatcher pools who did our our rehab work and he
recommended pellets but that's not recommended by our pool company um and then you know Mike's got thoughts as well um there you know gas is more effective we know how to use it spare parts are interchangeable there's
there's Frozen cons for both but uh is there a cost difference um I would think cheaper to run gas yeah it's cheaper to run gas it's a little I think building wise we still have to have the exhaust there's a few less things I believe that
need to be done with the building um but what I'm told is the safety factor it's safer that's what that's what I'm told so uh we know we're not looking for approval or anything like that but just to bring it to your attention that
there's some talk on on which way to go on that so you know existing facility yeah new new facility you know in my mind i' like to go to liquid just
for that reason but again whatever's anybody's got strong feelings let us know yes well actually think I do I gave a bunch of them away to our but yeah I can get a bunch of them do you guys you guys everybody want
some to okay to have on hand and just hand out you can't solicit but you can give uh facts and say contact a pool Committee Member so can I write
as a a request for a grant from my church as a Park Board member yeah I see grants as different because that's not really soliciting for donating donations yeah mean asking them to consider donating money to yeah the Y I would
consider that okay we're actually no we're actually writing grants right now we've got a Taylor Family Foundation grant for $50,000 are written CA helped us out with that but that's that's from a city standpoint so we apply for Grants all
the time as as many as we can possibly apply for to try and bring in dollars so yeah I think that's fine and at some point you know we'll reassess where we're at and and we're still holding out hope
there'll be a few more big big chunks coming in from somewhere um otherwise you know we're getting down to uh putting out there that hey we need you know it would take this much money per resident in the area to get this
done I don't know where we're at now about 180 bucks per resident or something or 190 that's per man woman and child though not dogs and cats not yet they're whittling that going to hopefully Whittle that down
quite a bit before we go out with that we might have to move on to the pets next we might have um you know and then you know there could be discussion at some point about we build a $3.6 million pool you know
that's what that if that's what we have or 3.8 you know $3.9 million pool so hopefully we don't get there um and there'll be there could be discussion on do we hold off for another year and absorb
the0 whatever thousand dollars of inflation or what does the park board having its budget where if they needed to take a loan out to pay for it for so many years an intra fund loan well from from the
park board well the park board is its own entity right it is I know what's under the the city but is that something that they could do on their own and you know we give them so much per year and they would have to use that but yeah we'd have to Levy for that because we Levy for the park board there's have
Levy for it or can they go actually get a loan for it somewhere well could get a loan but but how do we pay the loan payment the loan payment would be from the levy because that's how we F I suppose it's still through the levy but keeping the levy the same what we normally give the park board per
year if they could pull it from that if they had enough funds to do that sure well things would yeah they'd have to I mean I don't think I can't remember how many funds you have available I know the 175 we could pull that um make him a little uncomfortable but she did commit
to the say um beyond that yeah no the only way to get a loan somebody you got to pay those payments yeah for the park board to pay those payments on the loan would come out of uh um something else that the park some
other Park Bo some other parkboard fund yeah or they don't have enough yeah yeah I I can look and see you know but there's you know we've got other areas for INT intra fund loans as well um you know the Enterprise funds are the ones
that are typically used in communities to close any Gap that might need to be closed but we've got a lot of projects coming up too Water and Sewer type projects so that's that's hard to do as well but it's an option you know depending on the Gap that we need to
fill yeah be all kinds of discussion coming up here you know first of all to get us to so we can get started and then as we go few months into into that how the fundraising is going after we get started and more discussions about okay
how do we how do we fill the rest of the Gap yeah after the first $100,000 donation right off the bat we had we had a $50,000 donation and a couple of 25s but we were hoping for three four of those $100,000 donations right but it's just not their economy
you know whatever reasons it's we're grateful for whatever we can get from where every little bit you know even the you know whatever people threw in the the Don bucket down at the park you know that that that all
helps there's no negative tone here it's all hope that's right we happen it's in progress It's in process has to wait it has to wait I still think we could rais goats and quit the mowing bill
every summer of like $4,000 a month that's 12 months payment pay for one go H one go her $4,000 a month and well don't name them then friend
them radical outside of the box thinking there yeah okay that's great information any more discussion on the pro you guys want to have don't give
up okay the cover bridge sign last month that we thought about his name again it's uh Pa thank you we're gonna inform him if we wanted to proceed with a sign and we could decide
no this is the design that's a preliminary design it won't be blue and it won't be blue probably yeah I see not official color do we have a cost to build it
that's what that's what I'm waiting on okay I say it'd be prent to wait until we at least know what it's going to cost yeah can we table this until next month do we get a cost out of
it do you need a motion that discussion till if you do it [Laughter] wased one it gets all slimy and rainy so it's a couple AES on the back
of the part there that was hanging over utility shed and they were in pretty tough shape so we just went ahead and took them down while we could still get in there there probably be a few more here and there in these as because we counted
and we reconed and we still didn't get them all they all yeah and they deteriorate so quickly time yeah they counted them before you know three months later all the bark falls off of another
one do we need to have a motion to cover this to pay it I'll make a motion we pay the $800 for the two trees that were dropped I'll second all in favor I I oppos and the motion
carries I listened to a story about Dutch elm disease resist resilient trees resistant trees that they hybridized and they said the Walnut got taken out the oak came to take care of it then the oak got Oak um fun is it a mold or something
and a and then ashes and Elms and so some species comes in to take this place but now they can hybridize like a walnut with the Chinese Walnut and get it back established something to take care of the box elder trees box elder trees
let's get rid of those things mhm well I was uh thinking we should throw some hyped Elms into the ash trunks just just storytelling right now um Campground picnic tables and fire
Rings stacked up on a nice pile I live in it on the weekend and I don't know what this is about we need to move them or reuse them I'm not sure what's going on where are they um I didn't find the
pi tables but um Judy and Donnie Hol are in today and they had mentioned that that we need more fire rings and more picnic tables for the new sites 10 sites yeah we still have F rings I have to take
and we'll get a price we'll get a price next month on the tables I exactly not got to have them it's going to be dry this summer what time did the seasonal s
open usor is that enough time next mon think we said the date I think we set the date at May 15th in the agreement for fire Rings those can come quick we'll you make sure there's
yeah I think I looked if if we needed to purchase some 10 of them was about $500 yeah but I think we we bought last y I wasn't able to find the picnic tables though because I thought about it with about 10 minutes till the meeting
so I couldn't I couldn't think fast enough did we was it last year that we bought some two years ago because that will help me too probably even look back while we're in one or two years ago I'll do a
range we usually buy them on this time right can I add a c Miranda just mentioned the uh one of the agreements and I think we had talked remember we had the campground rules and the seasonal agreement and the campground agreement and you were gonna read them
and think about them and let us know if there's any comments I haven't heard any comments does that mean no comments or you not get a chance to look at it it's very close I thought they were good I didn't have any feedback to give I don't think
any changes are warranted all right I just gave them to Donnie and and Judy today to read through for any comments as well so oh and they had called just before this afternoon 2 and they said
they didn't have anything to add at okay so I guess they're finalized then Miranda you do you put them on the website or what what should we get copies to Donnie wasn't there some wording that
needed to get changed you sent it off to the attorne yeah they they they saw it before the park board so I think they were all okay then do we just need to all approve motion them
yeah we can do them all at once rules and the two seasonal and the other camping rules called seasonal camping user agreement camping user agreement and rules and
regulations so I'll make a motion to approve all [Music] those that's not fair you have to say them oh gosh I can't and something else and rules Stu just all the C stuff down there that's
that's we I cheated I wrote them down second in favor I oppos thank you very much for that work it was a team effort if you guys want to discuss using reusing the pool fence for the pickle ball that's stupid or if that's a good
use of something we have just that we can't put anything in the pl plane like that put we can't drill it into the concrete we can't put it into the ground next to it so it' be temporary yeah chain link would
definitely be tough Pine Island's pickle ball courts are in the flood plane is my understanding and they have to be able to remove a panel on each end of those boards those permanent boards that's what I'm told whether that's true or not that's something we
could check into but anybody else okay thank you and something I'm just kind of digging out I don't know if you want to fund native seeding projects around different pieces of the park parks East Park the entry
near Quick Trip South Park and U skate park if you just want plots so there's things called like jungle Prairie uh Sandy Prairie deer resistant there's basically just pollinator Prairie plants
to reestablish that are grown in wiona Minnesota and then you plant them it takes three years sometimes you got to burn them down or mow them down for a year re establish but it's cost it cost me about 300 bucks for like a good 500 to a th000
square feet where do you want to put them specifically when we first started design the campground I really wanted strips between the campers so that you'd have like a privacy of prairie grass and also a look you know so that has this
cool look that's um Native and pretty um also the skate park I think we could just kind of start dressing up the skate park paint seeds I was going to put up hand sa that's how station I'm just kidding
but uh station in South Park I really want to buff the plaque so the brass shines and then just have like flowers all around it just little dressy things we can do this year maybe establish them so that they're
perennial they come back every year then cool oh we were talking about that in the big Park here to have less mowing or you know maybe have a trail through it exactly at some point well that's all been done yeah I
think that that was all planted before and they're pretty possessive of all that stuff I think things like that it's conservation sustainability and um trying to subtract
mowing but also adding a managed wildlife so that we're not a messy Park you know and so what are we doing with that what is the city doing with that point of land out there and
Jefferson you know where Jefferson goes up and curves around and then the road and there's that point of land well it's before the school yeah nothing right now you know that's we envision a trail head up there eventually because that'll be
kind of per way be way out there perfect for that how big is that piece oh gosh I don't remember what's left over it like 7 seven point yeah cuz it was 1.9 something Acres the whole thing and then
the road took out a chunk so seven or something like that I think is just under an acre I believe yeah but that could be something for there for now $300 for how much
it's like it's like a 500 square foot strip so how we talked about imagine the in terms of a football field the church would not be happy because they didn't want do talk to them about a dog parang they didn't want that you a school
okay that's it's not there's no parking out there well if we can get the Sanitary District going then we've got a spot but we're still working on that too
yeah in four or five years we may have a spot yeah I that spot up there this year it's the second year and it's just two strips between trees and um it should flower this spring and summer so if you guys want to preview
and I don't want to add it on to the public works at all I want it to be a volunteer and I want to contact chapters of Master naturalists to come and involve themselves so rochest Rochester has a pretty thriving group I just want to kind of have them swing up
here and so what's your vision that they would do do the planting planting and they would um teach about it so they would grow and then they te you know Library effort and then they would bring people through and say hey this is the native flower that grew here before that
the flood took it out these are the trees that were here and have little plaques of trees so it's a Long View long vision for me right now but I gotta start with seeds so are there does well this is a bad time to ask this but does the state of Minnesota offer grants for
this yeah blond the leggings I already got a hold of but they're like backing off now because of things yeah and it's for um I used it for Highland Park so I I can use it for a public area so I'll keep on putting my name in there you
guys l2l LA to legumes um what else is there there's outdoor grants DNR and there's um there's another one with the U that I can work with yeah we don't need to spend money just something that
you wanted to pretty up and more than that to have some kind of legacy plan take over to the park park business thank you for listening to that it's a lot to think about to be honest
with you it is yeah I mean it's a good presentation to the board takes a good presentation so that wasn't the best presentation but we can Envision I can give a Trestle Bridge
update we are bringing a request to the council to um allow us to go out for bids on a a possible repair to get five or 10 five to 10 years out of the bridge um extens
repairs $1 1220 to $150,000 repair uh but we are not sure about the transportation alternative Grant yet uh we went and presented um to amend that board requesting $1.4
million and we're waiting to hear back but even if that $1.4 million would come through that's $229 and so either the bridge stays closed till 2029 or we pre-build which would mean
bonding um or we do a repair for 120 to 150,000 and wait until 2029 when the money's available to replace the bridge so anyway that'll go to the council just just as a request to to go out for bids
in case we decide we want to do a repair we want to have the bids in place uh sooner than later because if anybody's going to want to do the work they're going to want to do it in the spring I'll right away get it open for pedestrian traffic
again could be a looker too you can see it through our new cuting it's part of the view of the campg Y you can see it now yeah for sure the the new bridge is envisioned like the ones on Douglas Trail something like that down in P Island big wide
concrete um deck on them on it so what's a replacement cost for that we're estimating $2 million now we hope we're estimating High Hope um what kind of
um um inflation percentage are you using uh yeah 2029 yeah that's my only question well hopefully the inflation was built in there knowing it was 2029 numbers and in my discussions with okay a city engineer okay yeah and I was just
thinking it may truly be 2 million in 2020 9 even if it's less now I guess I'm just thinking of 150,000 for repairs today how far would that go for four years of inflation right yeah where's where's the break
even you should we Bond and do it well even if we Bond and do it right away it's going to be a year and a half because it still has to go through the it's State dollars so actually it's federal dollars and so it still has to go through the whole Federal process of getting
approvals so it's a year and a half two years before we can build it even if we pre-build it so so that would mean and we could repair it in a month and have it open otherwise it's a
year and a half to two years if we pre-build or what four years if we waited until the money was available if again if we get the grant we haven't heard yet all kinds of decisions for Council
to make coming up I love the brdes on hey Creek concrete yeah well this would be steel with concrete deck yeah if we're going to do it we might as well do one that's gonna be there for a long time not as long as this one well hopefully
as long as this one exactly on our shoulders rest the decisions of Heroes leges you don't have the trails yet so also gets to make that one that's another thing we got to work on parks and
trails rolling that in but them to us yield them now just kidding little bit anybody want to entertain anything I got just a couple things yet too um the trees are
ordered um there's 100 I think 110 115 trees ordered for the park and other boulevards too they'll come in the 1 of April then uh we'll plant them and then April 29th with the school they'll have
a bunch of kids down there we'll get them to mulch them around and the other thing is war trigger construction who's going to put the roof on the new bath house he wants a down payment try to hold the cost where we're at so we're going to run into quite a
bit of cost more with that roof to and we've done that in the past with you just but that that'll probably be coming at the next is that a DNR Nursery or the tree
already I went through J Brash what kind of trees um I have to go back I think there's five five different varieties they wanted bu I think there was some o pin o
um I don't know there was quite a variety of trees was articulated within the grant right those yeah those that coffee trees [Music] pberry and Del along their walking trails they have fruit
trees planted and then they're open for the people of the community come and get fruit from people come so it kind of helps supplement some of that I thought that was really a cool
idea so if we plant any trees up there in that triangle let's do fruit trees up there there a sunny angle to it a sunny sunny size to it yeah true and all the deer will go and eat it because that's
[Laughter] where I almost hit three of them the other night up there no I was driving [Music] yeah but you know that putty we used to
use the cover expansion cracks yeah do you know the name of that um one of them I uses forther finish another one is um um by Shox I think it's s can't remember the name of
it but Shox is another good brand Shox yep I believe it is s c o n Ox something like that on the skateb park they have all these uh screw heads on the ramp do you
think it would withstand weathering um I believe the Shox one is waterproof um I know I used some outside of my concrete in front of the shop and that's held up real well outside and it's like
part SK qu inch F yep about smooth out the ramp um okay what what you could do is is look at sh knox's website and they've got different products in there and there might be one
more water resistant than others and I know where to get it if if you find the the name of one that you like I know where to get it so in the dark alleys of zodo correct actually it's at walcro in Rochester and you've probably been to walcro that's the one where they've got
the Barb wi around it so surpris now the surface on that ramp we had that was a professional that worked on that right Mike on the skate ramp I don't know if he was he was the one who
originally him and Jim were the ones who originally built that first one he was just involved in it this guy but those screw heads they're recess but I'm I'm guessing they need access to those if we ever have to
go replace the sheets again or how does that work I mean they were put back the same way the original one was built unless they're sticking up or something well they recess are pretty big you know a quarter size so I thought if we just putty them up with something that can be
drilled out yeah or shaked out but um I figure if the ramp floor was that degraded that maybe would just tear it out by that time yeah they're you know they're this much apart figure a roll blade could use
a little more um smooth surface skateboard I just know it was a whole to do to get it repaired so it was a whole Todo to get it repaired I right and expensive he was making a
pun no pun intend thanks for your time everybody a little bit sugar chattered still not as long as Fred's meetings used to be nope don't keep us any long I have to write meeting minutes for council
meeting yet tonight Kim was gone I forgot pack it ready to go and I couldn't find the minutes because I never knew I'll make a motion to adjourn a second by by thank you so
much just going to throw this one at yeah thanks everyone