This conference will now be recorded. >> Welcome to the park board meeting on April 6, 2026. We'll call to order this beautiful semiwarm April evening.
Um yeah, we have an agenda tonight. Not much not much going on or is there much depends on the relevancy of what time it is at night. >> I'm move to approve the agenda. >> That's all.
>> All in favor? >> I opposed. All right. And the minutes from March 2nd. >> I move to approve the amendments for March 2nd. seconded the agenda. >> And all in favor?
>> I opposed. Minutes approved for March 7. AP. >> I think we had some duplicates on the month before. So, I think we had some overlapping. That may be why it seems a little light this time with some of the
utilities. I'll move to approve the accounts payable dated 331 of 2026. >> Favor I >> and opposed accounts payable of 800 and
$2.30. Hey. Hi, Bob. Um, we want to move right into the unfinished pool update business. Okay. Well, I spent days working on a PowerPoint
presentation for the abatement public hearing that we've got coming up on Wednesday this week. My eyes are red. My head hurts. And trying to go all the way back. 2018 is when a contract was signed with Burbach. Were you on the park board at that time? >> I was.
>> Yep. So 2018, August 21st of 2018, I believe. So that's where my slides start. Well, actually, I start with the history for the old pool first and then 2018 all the way up through the eight-year journey to where we're at now. Just kind of telling people what we talked about. There's some big gaps in
there because we did capital planning along the way. That was most of a year. So, but um letting people know that yes, we did look at an indoor facility for $15 million, which wasn't going to happen. Uh yes, other pools, larger ones
were looked at anywhere from seven and a I found some old minutes from the the pool the old pool committee before I was here. 7 and a half million to 11 a.5 million or something like that is what they were looking at which I do remember because when I came in in 2020 I said uh no we there's no way we'll be able to do
that and that was the end of the pool committee because they had spent a lot of time without any guidelines. Um so then they all stepped away and it reverted back to the park board for quite a while. But anyway, all that's on there. Um, and what you're going to see
is I'm trying to remember now off the top of my head actually. I wonder if I still have it up here. But what you will see in the PowerPoint is um the nuts and bolts once we get down to
it. It is, you know, I've got the uh the bonding in there for the 3 million. 3.1 million is what we went for because you got to borrow a little extra. Um, a second. Let me give you the numbers here. Parks, park board, pool,
bonding, abatement. Got things buried in here. Good luck. Anybody has to if I get hit by a bus, somebody's got to find this stuff. It's going to be going to be rough. Um, so the original 3.1 million in bonding
was about $122 per month for a $300,000 house. Um, what we're looking for uh the council to consider is an abatement. uh that same $300,000 house that would
add $4.56 on top of the voter approved levy. Uh that would allow us to get a pool done for the just a hair under $5 million. Um, of course there's an option.
Actually, it the total ends up being a little less because when you wrap it all in for the $4,345,000 of bonding, uh, total the total ends up only being 1434 per month uh, per $300,000 house. Now, the reason
for that is some of the fees are wrapped in. We don't have a bunch of money and another bonding call that there's a whole bunch of I hope not to get into all the nuts and bolts unless Aaylor's is here. Um but really the nuts and bolts of it is for about five bucks give or take uh extra we can have a pool in a
year. Um if the council were to choose to go back to the voters that would push everything off a year. Inflation is estimated at about 12% roughly $600,000 plus the extra fees you have to you have
to figure in for bonding. 2 million bucks um is what would we'd have to ask for. So rather than building the pool for 1.38 extra now, it would be 2 million extra to go back to the voters if it was approved. But the voters would have had
to say on the whole thing. So but that that's the presentation. That's what it'll be. It'll be okay. Do you want to do an abatement because you have the authority? get the pool done for about $5.34 a month on a $300,000 house or do you
want to go back to the voters or do you want to just not do a pool and bring it back in 10 years or five years or whatever? It's pretty simple, but there's 16 17 18 slides,
but that's that's I think that's the number everybody's looking for. About five bucks, a little over well 530 $524 on a $300,000 house. Yeah. So, right now we're Oh, actually, am I wrong? It's 456 per month on a
$300,000 home. about five bucks. Not talking to Todd and Todd said, "You better say five bucks." Okay. >> Five bucks because it's all estimated, but u it depends on market rates at the time and all that good stuff. >> Yeah. >> So, so that'll be the question is do you
want to do an abatement at roughly five bucks a month on a $300,000 house for 20 years to deliver a pool facility. Um now that that amount could be less hopefully it would be less
because we would continue to fund raise along the way and theoretically when we have a project committed to there's some of the bigger fund or bigger entities that we've contacted that they our answer was we don't have a project we're not going to donate to something that
doesn't is not might not happen. Um they wouldn't do a pledge like some of our other ones did. So so in all likelihood that five bucks would be less than that. Um and and the what we understand about the abatement is it be yeartoear you set
the abatement amount each year. So if a bunch of fundraising comes in we need we can abate less as we go. Now, that probably would be down the line because we really don't want to abate less right away in case there's um
overruns and things like that, but at some point towards the end of the project, that could get to be a lot less well a lot, you know. >> What about the fees to use the pool? Can those be >> changed?
>> Yeah, you don't want to go way above uh other communities. You know, you need to be competitive, too. Um, but what we can do is add to the campground fees once there's a pool there. And then the park board would encumber more money there
and that I suppose that could be talked about if some of that goes back towards the the the debt service payment or if it goes back at the park, whatever. But but um you know once you have a pool amenity, new bath house, all of that, you know, then then campground rents
will go up uh for sure and rightfully so because you have you have more amenities and maybe some more stuff. I haven't read through the 48 pages I might put together here, but there's a lot of good stuff in there. So maybe there'll be more amenities too at some point. >> Okay.
>> Well, when did when did you >> two minutes ago? Yeah, I haven't been home enough to look at my emails or anything. So, >> so, but anyway, that's kind of the the paired down version of what you'll hear. You know, I went through kind of everything I could think of along the
way just, you know, because we've seen posts out there about why did they do this, why did they do that? Well, we did. We looked at it. We looked at this. We looked at that. This got delayed because we need to do capital planning to figure out how much we could reasonably um look at which since has moved because
it's been a few years you know so we can absorb more now theoretically our tax rate is still low um without giving a recommendation you can see where I'm at as a citizen this is our opportunity to do a pool and if if this passes
I guess I wouldn't do a pool you know I wouldn't go back to the voters because that's another 600,000 and and you might as well just wait and maybe you'll do a water park later, a little bit bigger one or there's more tax base, but you'd be without a pool
for 5 10 years. So I again it is what it is only pass along information but I I as a citizen I still have an opinion you know take my five bucks a month give
us a pool because that's going to bring in families. I don't know how many. Could be one. Could be 10. >> I think it's more than you think. >> Yeah. And that'll help the school as well. Uh the school if they participate in the bonding really doesn't help us a whole lot. So,
not as much as I would have thought, but >> what time on Wednesday is this? >> 6 p.m. Todd had 5:30. I said, "Nope, six." "No, it's 5:30." I'm like, "No, no, we it's a public hearing. We have to wait till 6:00 because people are off at work. >> At least he didn't have 6:30. At least
at 5:30. Yeah. >> Yep. 6 p.m. And we'll see. Um the um Aaylor's put together the the public posting for us that we put in the paper and and of course the address said 175
Mil Street. Said City Hall, but 175 Mil Street. >> Where was that? Well, >> well, there's a there's a spot, you know, but um >> there's no >> So, we consulted with our we consulted with our attorneys and Ailers
>> and they both kind of agreed that it says city hall. Everybody knows where city hall is. Um when I reviewed it or when we reviewed the the posting, we were looking at content, not this address never occurred to us. So, I missed it completely missed it. But it
is correct in the this last Wednesday's paper. U. So the attorney said, "Nope, you you're just fine." So we've got that ironed out because we can't delay it because the 16th is the date. Well, this the 17th that we have to act on the bids
either accept or reject. >> Have you gotten any feedback from the citizens of Brian at all? >> I have one email in in support. >> Okay, >> that's it so far. >> How about you, Bob? Have you heard anybody reach out to you and say either
way >> recently? >> But I would say most of what I've heard is kind of 5050. >> Well, you get paid the big bucks to make these decisions. >> I've had more conversations with with Todd and Fred than >> Yeah. Yeah.
>> than than citizens. But um >> I would say a lot of people are have the attitude of that for all of the money. >> Sure. Well, and that's it. That that's really what we're doing now. Yeah, shoot. We should have done that, right? But >> um
yeah, and you know, we may not need all of it, but we don't want to ask for something less and not get the fundraising again. You know, hopefully the fundraising will come through. I just talked to one place today and I kind of pressed for more. Nothing yet,
but but they are committed to the original pledge. So, I've got the staff looking over the PowerPoint because I've been known to have a few spelling errors. >> Yeah. Anything that we can help with the
>> Yeah, PowerPoint. >> Well, not with the PowerPoint probably. Um, >> a meeting. >> Well, I could Yeah, I could email the PowerPoint to you guys too ahead of time. Um, I'm going to have the staff look at it tomorrow morning and then I'm going to maybe get it out to the rest of the department heads and I could email you guys too for any comments. I need to
get to the council at some point before the meeting. So, they need to see what it is before we put it out there. But, um um no, I mean, we just need people here. If you're in support of it and you know others in support of it, bring people. Um if you're against it and and
you know others against it, bring people. Need both sides. Kind of like our flag issue. Heard from both sides. Still are hearing from both sides. I haven't got any emails this week yet, but But, you know, just like that, hopefully
there's good debate and good back and forth and council will not make a decision at that meeting um per se. Uh the decision will come after they've got a week to think about it and act at the uh April 16th
meeting. So, it's going to be going to be good for staff no matter what. Either we're going or we're not finally or I guess it could be back to the voters and we can but we have to have talked to Miles today. If we go back to
the voters we may have to have a special meeting council meeting to approve the wording because it's due May 1st. >> May 1st. Yeah. >> Yep. or or if the talk is that it might go back to the voters, then we can
prepare something for the 16th and possibly act on that. At the same time, have a resolution to just send it back to the voters and this will be the question uh because yeah, May 1st is the date that the county said they need the the
information. So, everything's kind of tightening up here. Would we have to play with the numbers then if it goes back to the voters because of the increased cost? >> We just asked for two million. >> Yeah. >> Versus
Yeah. >> And right now versus what we got now is basically beyond fundraising $4.3 million, right? um give or take um $5 million if we got to go back for the well there's still
fundraising will be yeah >> yeah depends on how we look at it. So >> do they know what the cost difference is if it has to wait until next year >> 12% is what they're saying and they were uncomfortable giving me that number because oil and everything now and who
knows what and so they said it'll be all of 12%. Well, no. They gave me a range and 12% was as far as I wanted to push it on. >> That also rebid. Correct. >> What? >> Does that have to go back to bid?
>> Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's the other thing, too, that I did put that in here. We might not get biders a third time. >> You know, we probably won't get the same bers because they're probably in all likelihood we wouldn't. So, that that throws a wrench to that.
That's why if I was going to give a recommendation, if the staff was going to give a recommendation that we've talked about, it would be do the abatement or put it off. >> Do we get to give a recommendation as a board >> right now? We can pass it along to
>> I agree with you 100%. >> Yeah, actually you can come. >> I think it's now or never. I think we do it now or we bag it. >> You're citizens, too. So, be in attendance and you can identify yourself as a as a school as a school board member. Well, you could be a school board member, too, but as a park board
member. And then >> and then give your opinion. Well, three minutes. I think it's going to be three minutes. We'll see. Maybe it needs to be two minutes. >> He held it to two the other night. >> Yeah. >> Who holds this stopwatch on? >> Miles.
>> Miles. Yeah. If Miranda's here, it's Miranda. But So yeah, I'll just lay it out there and you know, we'll see what the comments come in. You know, the ultimate decision on this part of it lies with the council because this is authority that they have
and and Aaylor said, yeah, this is what communities do. If you have a gap, you know, abatement is what was what you do. Okay. I I'll take the responsibility of not asking for 4 million right off the bat. >> Yeah. >> You know, um
you know, I'm actually sick of talking about it. >> I just got to be transparent and say that we this has been a topic of the park board for 15 years. >> I'm sure before that. I mean it's
we got to make a decision and if it that's why I feel that way that it it either now or fill in the hole and grow grass we'll find something else for there and that's fine too if that's what the decision is in the end. There's
>> there's arguments on both sides of the coin. Um we want to have a pool. It's a great amenity to the city. It attracts people to come here. It's a crown jewel of our park. All that stuff is great, but do we want to raise the taxes again?
Do we want to put something on our taxes that people didn't vote for? >> Right? >> Do we want to have to risk it again and put it out there again for a vote and people then say, "Nah, this time I'm not going to vote for it." Then what do we
do? We fill in the hole anyways. >> Exactly. >> Right. You take money and hopefully return it to the people that donated it. >> Yeah, that's the other thing. We have $300 and some thousand dollars into this, too. I should put that in here somewhere
>> cuz that could have bearing. 326,000 some odd dollars is what we got to do. >> Tough decision. >> Oh, yeah. >> I feel for you, Bob, and the council. I do, honestly. I say that with all sincerity. It's a tough decision, but
support you either way. >> Oh, yeah. No, absolutely. It's it's very tough decision. >> It's a tough decision, but if it doesn't make sense for all the reasons that the council feels, like I said, then let's fill in the hole and be done with it and
move on to other great stuff for the park, like the pickle ball courts and all the other things like Mike had on his plan. I mean, we got a million things we can do other than a pool. It would sting not to have it, but it is
what it is. >> We're about everything. >> What else are we spending money on right now? Gas. Who cares? Be >> great to have everything, but >> yeah, it's it's a small caribou coffee a month.
But it's 20 years of that, >> right? >> But it's only one a month. >> But it's only one a month. >> Some people will spend that. >> Oh, yeah. Spend that. Yeah. >> The whole thing in a month. >> True. >> So, I appreciate your time.
>> Thank you. >> It's the whole It's a whole staff deal and yeah, everybody's been involved and has been wonderful. They're very responsive. get back to me on I keep asking questions because need to get it right. I don't want to pass along.
That's why I told him I said I don't want to pass anything along that's not completely true or not completely transparent. I don't want it to look like I'm hiding anything or we're hiding anything. You know, it just is what it is. And uh so I
need a staff to keep me out of trouble so I can keep the council out of trouble. Okay. Well, anyone else have any more questions for Brian? >> When is the actual vote then, Brian? It's not at There's just going to The
only thing on the agenda for Wednesday is the public discussion. Correct. Yep. >> That's all there is. >> It's It's a required public hearing to do an abatement. >> Okay. But we needed to do that before we ask council to make a decision on whether or not to
>> to accept bids because once you accept bids, good luck getting out of it, >> right? >> It's you could spend a lot of money just buying your way out of accepted bids because they >> theoretically they're starting to arrange their schedules. >> Yeah. It's contractual. >> Yep. >> Yeah.
>> Yep. So, so we got to have a we got to have all the information to the council to make an informed decision. >> And that'll be you said within like a week, >> the 16th. >> Oh, at that >> April 16th at that council meeting. That'll be >> an agenda item on there. We So, we have
60 days from February 17th to accept or reject bids. And that ends up being April 17th. >> Okay. >> Thank you. >> Absolutely. But you're right. I'm I'm tired of talking about it too and tired of >> Oh,
>> that's why one way or another we're looking forward to having some sort of a some sort of a resolution. It was kind of like the apartment building, you know. >> Yeah. >> Miles got dragged >> right.
>> Yep. Yep. >> Next uh item is capital planning discussion. Is this pertaining to the documents? Did anyone want you on it tonight or you want some more time to >> I'm just trying to dig through it.
That's why I brought my laptop because I was like, I can't do this on my phone. >> It's awesome. >> It is. Yeah. I just >> really >> I saw the email come through. I didn't realize what was on there until like quarter two >> and I started pulling up like, whoa, I'm
gonna need some time here. Wonderful. Just wow. A lot of work. Holy cow. >> But honestly, speaking little time to give it a little bit of a read. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Digest a little.
>> I got that wrong email. I think >> we can figure it out later. >> Grant, we probably need to work on that, huh? That you're >> maybe >> Did we not go for that one? There was one that was going out. I have to go
back in my notes, but it wasn't the ENT. We had one grant in process this year with the park, but this one that is in the email is is talking about taking Minnesota's natural resources, not like u minerals and and and
it's more like rivers and plant life. >> Yeah. And then they can fund what what I would want to do is re-establish the soil and water conservation districts work they have on the riverbank. >> I was going to say we should talk to Bo because they did that. I think
>> Jeff were you were you involved in that project at all? >> This whole phased project is at the end of that grant proposal and it would prevent erosion. So it would just save flood water erosion, establish native rooted plants
that filter in the water and prevent downstream pollution from and such and and rehab like fishing environment in the river. Some good things and it's money provided. >> Yeah, it's >> I don't think there's even like a match.
It's just like money provided. We just have to do the proposal, right? that be the same area just on top of what they already did with the with the root falling and stuff that they already did >> as as described in in what I got kind of it's it's I've been helped to write it
up. >> Okay. >> So to fill in the the holes here, but um there's more towards the the bridge that we can still keep >> down the other way. >> Uh the the 58 bridge or this this bridge? >> Trussel. >> Oh, the trussel bridge. Got it. Got it.
Yeah. Yeah. been with the Pirate Trail. And then we could talk to upstream land owners. They want to join in forces and get the buffer going. Then we could talk to downstream land owners, be like, "Hey, you benefit from this. Do you want to join forces?" More of a natural
natural um grant instead of a construction thing. But that would land us in another place where we be like, well, the park has all this and now we can do all these construction things because we prevented flood erosion and
help us with that. Minnesota, something's on in the future. 10-year plan, you know, it's not tomorrow and it's not a pool that we need to vote on. So, it's down the road. Takes about three years to establish good native plants and then have seed propagation
happen after the third year. We could do burns which would help that too. I think golf course burns. Have you had experience with that? >> Uh years ago they used to do it. We haven't done so many recently fire department but >> controlled controlled burns of course
>> and DNR does some of that too if they're involved or however that works. But >> with buckthornne and um nettle stinging nettle is how you say it. >> It's all over. It's not really a bad plant, but it's not very comfortable to
walk with your disc golf. >> It's it's native, you know, it's not like a noxious weed is what I've read. >> Um, yeah, we got requirements for down here on when we can cut because we like
to be able to see the river. When you can cut cut, how low you can cut. They want to cut when it's really hot because then that burns out the the weeds. The grasses stay. It's more hearty. We did have a DNR intern down there pulling out buckthornne and
all that stuff along the whole river bank here a few years ago. Local girl. So, she spent weeks down there just pulling that stuff out. So, there's been some of that stuff worked on down there. But >> have a correspondence with the Canon Trail >> group that did their project. They have
like a little sign by the turtle um natural area turtle preserve buckthorn restoration pro project. So I I have a correspondence that I can include on that. I have to follow through with these things and I need a plan that's in front of my face to do that. So
>> yeah, I'm sharing it with y'all a bit behind but here we are. It's very cool. >> There is a a river what's that committee? Zumbro River Trail Group that's been working for a long
time and they identified our covered bridge area as one of the um they're looking for canoeing things like that, places where people can put in the river. They've identified so we've got a meeting coming up on that with that group. Uh Kurt attends and so do I.
They're online meetings. Um um so yeah, that meeting is coming up and we'll see what they've got to say because they they're looking to get you know spa places on the different rivers that more recreation canoeing mostly. >> Is that brought before the council a
year or two? >> No, that was the uh the vending machine the canoeing >> which is cool. still be nice to do that at some point, but um where you can punch a code in and and it opens up and then you take the the kayak out and and
paddles and you kayak down the river. I know people that put in down here in Gway and MoPa. So, if we can get more of that down there, too, that'd be great. And then one other thing on the We'll bring the trails back at some point,
too. the parks and trails ordinance. Forgot about that. But um to kind of fold trails in which will bring the trestle back into under the park views or or park boards perview. U we get the
notification on the extra $947,000 grant. So we've got 1.447 million for the trestle replacement. $2 million trestle replacement, but you know, getting a lot of it paid for by grant dollars, the transportation
alternative grants. So, so that's good. But that's 2029 and 2030 money. So, we'll have to decide when we're going to replace that truss. So, >> and then the park board will have to be ready to u you know do the road and the trail
about that time or shortly after that'll be the time you can get the road and the rest of the trails paved and redone. So, so when we do the cap the rest of the capital planning or fold that in here somewhere as well and kind of look at dollars and what's going to be needed
there. Um, and we're doing the same thing with the city because Highway 58 reconstruction is coming up right about that same time. We're going to have to come up with who knows how many million dollars. So, hang around. You be the mayor by then, maybe.
uh send me an email. No, I'll get the right contacts going. >> I can get >> Okay. Okay. And um if you want to grab one of the sections and say, "I'm going to make this my baby," then we could just team up like that. Um if you have someone that you know that would like to be involved, definitely drop them a
line. Um and if you don't like doing this or planning, like do that, too. Like, hey, this isn't necessary. It kind of muddles things up. I don't want that to happen either. >> We need the plan because that helps with >> grants.
Yeah. Especially and I don't want to put new burdens on staff and Okay. >> This makes Oh yeah. >> This save a ton of time. That's why you don't even need me. Mike's got it. >> Don't think so. Good, good reception. I
was walking in, I have 559 points and I was like, it's either gonna go no or yes. >> Thanks, guys. All right. So, we'll just keep that. Maybe we'll make it part of our process going forward instead of like a priority
list. We have a capital plan that is more editable, amendable, and such. Yep. >> And we'll start using that. >> Cool. Now, we want to move a monument. Is it easier than building a pool to
move a monument? >> After some digging today, maybe not so much. >> Oh gosh. Fall apart. >> I met with Todd Schumacher up there today and we dug down along. I was hoping what it's resting on was a 9x4 6 in slab that we could use to hold the
monument itself together. You know, get underneath it with a skid loader on one side, lift it up, crib it, do the other side crib, and then they could bring their big payloader forks in and get it from there. And we dug down two feet and to get to the bottom of the concrete
that's underneath it. So that's roughly 10,000 lbs >> on its own, just the footing underneath it. let alone what I don't know what's in inside the structure itself. It's got some fractures on it. It's got some age.
So, I don't trying to take that by itself. I don't think it can make the trip intact. >> I see trying to >> might have to take the plate off of it, put it on something. >> That's what I was kind of looking at too. the other if we pour another
concrete monument kind of like in the picture there like these other ones and then reattach the plate if that's not a if we're not completely after that original structure would probably be the the best option
because it could be done but the amount of dollars would be I think beyond what a person would want to look at spending on making the impossible possible. >> And I don't, you know, the inside of the
actual stonework itself, could be, you know, from back in the day. It could be plump full of concrete, could be full of dirt, could be beer cans. I don't know what's inside there, you know, or whatever. So, >> be hands, >> right? Right. or a castle >> from the dedication or something,
>> you know? Who knows? >> Is there anything historical at all about when that was placed? And >> the structure itself, I I can't imagine it was part of anything. It was probably just built to hold this plaque. >> Yeah.
>> You know, and the the original covered bridge one, is that the one that's inlaid on the bigger one out there? I mean, they're both have been inlaid on something new, right? Original either one of them. So, >> um, and I don't believe that this would
be on any historic register anywhere, >> this this plaque. >> So, what's the best option to move this thing, Jeff? >> I would go back to the plaque >> and do like we did with the other ones, pour a monument again >> and lay it into the
I think would be our best option. I think we would, you know, potentially spend a lot of money to get that lifted, loaded onto something and then get it hoisted into place and potentially have it fall apart.
>> If you can find the bottom, >> right? >> Yeah. I myself would go back after the plaque and if it were to move >> and my understanding is the old stage coach trail is ran through this area as
well. Is that what we heard or I mean because you could have somebody say well you're moving it away from >> where it even was. Well, perhaps Larry, he was around here.
So, >> one would think that that was probably the trail. >> That 3D print I did, too. The little elevation folks demo the old structure. >> Yeah, just clean it up in grass. Yep. I don't know what the plans are with
that because that is a park area or whatever. I don't know what the plans are with that in the future, but >> yeah, that's going to be up to the park board as well if uh >> I know Steve came out and wondered if it was moving because he's been after that piece of property himself or whatever.
He he would like to expand, but >> Well, there's some money for the pool then. >> That's what I was going to say. Prices. What do we need for the pool? $1.3 million. >> There you go. >> A nice donation.
>> 1.3 takes it. >> Oh, there semblance of water, but also it takes money. >> One penny at a time. Well, oh no, the pennies are going out, so they have to be nickels. >> Pennies anymore. >> Okay.
keep us informed. >> Are we looking for action on this right now or is this just an update or >> I don't know if I need to uh >> The EDA is kind of bringing this up. So, I don't I mean I think they would just want your guys's permission to do
something with it. I I was under the understanding they would possibly cover the costs of it. >> Correct. Yep. Yep. The cost would be theirs. It's just basically it's coming out of a park in some shape or form intact or >> off of there. I mean, it's
>> well, it's not doing any good where it's sitting. >> So, I mean, >> I think I think we say that they can do what they want with it, that they can move it the safest way possible when obviously.
>> Are you motioning that? >> Yeah, I'll make a motion. didn't know if you were looking for one, but absolutely >> it would be Mike that was looking for one, but >> I just still question because that second pair of the old debuke trail on which this marker is situated. I mean,
do we need to have something added that we've moved this marker or Yeah, >> I'm trying to find a map because if it ran through here then right? >> Yeah. Is this the old trail? Like 58 was
Debuke Trail and then it said it linked Debuke and St. Paul. Well, no, that would be actually maybe 52 was >> the updated uh GIS maps. Then you can go back into the 20s and 30s with the >> Can you get back to that far? Well, when
was the Debuke Trail? Like 1856. >> Oh, maybe not that far. I know the satellite imagery goes back quite a ways. We just maybe need to have something made that explain that the marker was moved from
the intersection of 58 and 52 or something, >> right? To keep the historical >> significance of it location. >> I think we have plaques out here that are out of date with locations. >> Should I try AI? Wants me to go on AI.
Search on find a map. I suppose like they gold packs. Did you get direction that you need? >> I think so. I think we had a you know we had a second. Go ahead. >> Comfortable with a second um to remove or provide permission for the movement
of the monument. just >> I'm just wondering could amend it by adding if there would need to be some type of a clarification on
the Debuke Trail. Oh, you know, just uh Um, >> are you thinking that's like a some like a smaller plaque we could add to that to that monument >> just to have some type of >> Yeah. >> move from certain location >> where it's original to rig from original
location to here, >> right? Yeah. Or have Yeah. No map showing where the you know, just because it >> I can't find nothing that says where it was. It just says that there was It says
that there are historical markers in Zambroa that point out where the trail ran. >> Well, there's one. Yeah. >> Yeah. Probably just need something that says Yeah, it was at the intersection of 58 and 52
or something. I don't know. Well, >> is that all in favor of a second with the amendment there? >> Have to um yeah, have to have a second on the amendment and vote on the amendment. >> And if that passes, then it's the
amended motion. amended motion and in pro and force right now. Do I have a second on the amended? Amended >> motion. >> Okay. All in favor? >> I >> and opposed. Okay. Thank you for um
diving into that. It's good to think it out. The next item is the children's business fair. And we had a we said yes to this, right? We had a visitor from the school or from the fair
>> last week. Yes. Yes. Is there a note not note about this or new news? >> I think it's essentially the same. It's maybe expanded a little bit but I don't think a ton. >> Yeah.
>> And so he's proposing same spot obviously different date but >> that was last year already >> feel like yesterday. I know. Might have even been two years ago. >> Anybody familiar with it? >> I remember it. >> Yeah. Um they have a children's b
business fair where um if I recall they bring in the kids to the park and then they host like, hey, this is how you can get a job or this is what getting jobs is like. And um there's more to it. >> It's like an entrepreneur thing. like
they make their own stuff and then they bring it to sell it. Whether that's cookies, you know, baked goods, things they've handmade, stuff like that. >> They done this at the school. >> Yes, they they did a fall one, I think,
at the school and then they did one in spring in May in the park. And I'm not sure if they were the same school year or I know I know >> it was really the presentation was just really neat. It's like a super good benefit to the children of our
community, but I don't I don't have the full details. >> Yeah, it's pretty cool. >> You don't know the date that they were looking at or >> June 6th. >> June 6th. >> Yeah. >> And I guess I would ask for a motion to provide permission to use the park for such events.
And that's that's what they're asking for, I believe. >> So moved >> and a second. >> Yeah, I'll second. >> And all in favor? >> I >> and opposed.
The motion passes. >> Wonderful. >> Well, the energy level tonight has subsided as the sun sets on us. Thank you for um all your brain power and thank you for being here tonight. I
would uh fancy a motion to adjurnn. >> Yeah, I'll make a motion to >> and a second. >> I'll second. >> All in favor? >> I >> and opposed an amendment to the opposation.
>> Thank you. the parliamentarian. So we got >> could I get a contact for the fundraiser school fundraiser committee or if that >> I think is still on that or BA neat actually.
>> Okay.