This conference will now be recorded. Do we see the hour? >> I do have an addition to the agenda. Um I I forgot to just put it on there, but I'm going to just do an update on Keller Bartman if that's okay. Just um so you guys don't have to ask. So, I'll just just put it on there so you guys are
aware. >> Sounds good. >> I make a motion to approve the agenda. >> I'll second that. >> Motion. >> Motion. Motion. 500 minutes
for you. which is favor. >> I'll make I'll make a motion. >> Okay. >> I'll make motion minutes of last meeting. >> I'll second. All those in favor say I
>> say n. >> Uh yes. Uh so Tony Bigalow approached us um last week or two weeks ago as when we kind of got the information about it. Um but we kind of got rolling on it last week. And so it's this property is located at uh 1430 Anthony Court which
is out like on the edge of town of in town by the new uh church school that's out there. Um if you know where that is out on 460th kind of um but they own there's a vacant there's two or yeah there's a vacant lot out there. It's
kind of confusing. It's a lot of different things. Um so it's a vacant lot for for homes to be put there. It was originally going to be put there but they've kind of changed what they were doing over the years. So they originally had like duplexes or town homes there and there's a few of those there. Then
they had across the street there's two single family houses. Um, but they have two buyers that are interested. They want to split the lot in two. Um, so they're going to have two single family houses. Um, and so we were trying to figure out how we go about this because
it's kind of a weird situation or a unique one because it's not part of a normal development and it's been subdivided a few different times over the years. Um, so we had to wait for well it's been seven years. So our ordinance says every five years you can
subdivide. Um, so they're good on that. Um, and we kind of just consulted with our attorney, Mike Flareity, just to see how do we want to go about this. And so they had said, um, that we can just do a minor subdivision because our ordinance is pretty pretty vague.
I have a packet for you. So our ordinance is pretty vague on it, but it works out well. Um, so they submitted an application and basically legally speaking, it's technically four lots within one parcel, if that makes sense,
which is where they had the duplexes before, but they're going to combine them into two. So, it'll be there's no changes to the plat at all. They they submitted a certificate of survey to us, um, which you can see on your last page. It shows where the lots are as well, um,
I believe, or where they would have been. So basically down the middle get it'll just get cut in two. So there's no changes really to the overall lot or any any measurements at all. It's just that they want to combine those two to make so they can build two single family houses there um for their prospective
buyers. And so all we're doing tonight is for this subdivision uh process we're just going to have to do a public hearing. They wanted to move a little bit faster than that but just because our ordinance is so vague we wanted to just make sure that we're not running into any problems. Um so subdivision is
always a combination of lots. >> Yeah, I we honestly we were we had no idea to be honest with you. We kind of thought it was possible that maybe we could have just done an administrative approval just because they already own it. There's no changes all you know they
own the lots so and there's no changes to the plat so it's kind of their call a little bit but we like our attorney just he wasn't sure where's the attorney does he have anything to say >> yeah I mean I I should have I should have asked him to to come I can ask him
to come next month and we do a public hearing if that works out as well um but yeah I mean he said just the way our like our ordinance is structured weird and we just don't have explicit details on what this is because they're
combining the lots rather than just splitting them in the first place. >> Would this cause anything down the road? You know, they just do it this time. Again, I'm asking I don't know if there >> I don't think so because they, you know, they had already they originally
intended for them to be, you know, dup duplexes. So, that was there originally. But also, this is one kind of single lot. They it's not two lots right now. It's technically like they own the whole thing and so they're gonna split that into the two. >> Was it gonna be just one duplex on that
whole lot? >> Well, right. Yeah. >> It's too big for them. >> Yeah. Well, and it would have been four four people would have owned it because there would have been >> there would have been two here and two here, right? >> Then they would have had to split the lot anyway. >> Yeah. So, that's what they're kind of doing now. But they just want to do
there's not going to be four separate, you know, possible houses. is just going to be two for the single family homes. So, they're larger >> and I would say it's kind of unique compared to the rest of town cuz >> Well, and the other houses there are single family homes, too, right? >> Yep. Across the across the street are
single family ones. And then >> I think those were also supposed to be duplexes originally. that whole thing. >> And then you changed that corner lot to a single family not too long ago. >> Yeah. I think the last time was for those single family ones.
>> Yeah. Right across from STOs and the big house of that one was for townhouse too. >> Yep. Yep. I think that's what happened. family on two big lots. >> Yep. At least 5 years ago at the very minimum. Last last thing we had any data
on was in 2018. So >> we couldn't find anything. Um and this is the original builder too. It's Bigalow. So um and I'll invite Mike Clarity to >> I mean for this from the city's room
>> the city what >> I think they did I think they've owned all the lots so they've done all of these >> they didn't develop No. >> Trust. >> Yeah. >> Didn't Judy Lang develop it?
>> Yeah. >> Trust it. >> She developed it. >> She sew. >> I need to check with uh Pro Works director on that one. He wasn't really in today, but I will um I'll check with him as soon as I can.
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. Well, what we're kind of possibly worried about is if they didn't hook up utilities there, we would have to tear up the road. Um, so that's kind of what we're going to check on. >> Yep. So, I'm going to check on that and I'll bring that information back next month when I have more detail and I'll
invite my clarity to come with as well so he can just explain his thought process, too. So then we just see if anybody from the details answers these questions. >> Yep. >> Who is representing that owns these
lots? >> Uh it would just be uh Tony Bigalow. Um, >> we got a motion on the floor for a city public >> cuz I see they closed on the 8th of August this year and a guy named What
was his name? I thought I wrote it down. Strange name. It says it's the owner of those >> at at this address. >> Who? >> Address. Oh, I don't I I haven't checked on anything yet, so I don't know for sure. There's a motion on the floor.
>> Second discussion about say I >> I think these are split operating or sold. >> Pardon? Yeah, they closed the 8th of August. We just got
>> pardon. >> So it sounds like it's Bigalow that we're talking about, isn't it? >> Yes, that's correct. >> But maybe he's just doing the building or is he saying he owns them? >> Well, as far as I know, he currently owns them. But maybe I'm maybe I'm wrong on that. But that's who I've been
working with this whole time is Big Look. So, they must have owned the lots because they've done the survey and then they brought that to me. >> Did you just say somebody else? >> Yeah, >> but I don't know where I wrote his name because I looked it up this afternoon to see who Bigle owned them and it shows an
owner just that it just got sold the 8th of August of 2025 to this >> strange name. It's a people that are buying >> G H M L. Yeah. The whole property
>> he owns the whole thing and he just bought at the 8th of August. It just closed on it was 105,000 I think he paid for that. >> One person bought >> the whole lot. >> The whole four lots. Yeah. >> Okay.
>> They want to make it in two people that >> I don't know. That's what I'm concerned. That's what I'm wondering. >> Guess they're not so much name. If that guy is big, I don't know.
But it's kind of a not a usual name. No. >> What is his first name? Am >> G A D. >> E M G A D. >> I mean it was already stole requesting. >> I mean technically they they'd be
building the houses anyway. So they'd be within their right I guess to ask. Um so I honestly don't know. I mean, I'll just check with our attorney and see. Um, this is just kind of a unique one uh that I asked Kurt about it as well and
he had no idea. So, >> they are trying I mean they want to move fast on it and that's because they have people that want to purchase it. Um, so um that was kind of the idea, but they try to they did try to go around me. Um, but
>> they did. >> Yes, they did. But but they can't legally speaking. So >> they try to talk to Brian instead. Um but legally they I mean they have to go through this process. So um we checked with our with my clarity and they can't
get around it. It's our ordinance. It's our local authority. So be interesting to know. >> Uh, it's possible. I don't know for sure. Um, I don't know if they were I I just Yeah, I'm just unaware of what's been going on. So, I just know who I've
been working with and I just know we received the survey and they requested that they wanted to, you know, move forward with with this process and then we I've been working with the attorney and that's about all I know about it to be honest. I'll have more information next month for the uh
>> right >> you know I mean they can't get to that's awesome. Yep. >> Yep. >> Yep. I'll check with that and see what Jeff says. And um my assumption is that
it's there because everything else is around them. So it's not, you know, out of the ordinary or in the middle of nowhere. But >> well, I don't think I don't think there's no hookups there already because they build these I think they tap into
my matter if it's a house. >> Yep. Yeah, it'd be just normal, but the I mean the developer would cover those costs. So, >> I'm guessually tap into it as they build. >> Yep.
Uh yes. So um just updating you guys from last month. I know last month I don't believe I tried to look through the minutes but it didn't look like I had anything for you at that time. Um so there's been some development since then. We did receive site plans uh in
July at some point. It was probably after a meeting, but I don't remember exactly. Um so we did receive site plans. Our engineers finished their preliminary review of it and gave comments to them. And on Monday, we did receive a revised version of the site plans as well. Um so just kind of
updating you that we have those. Um little progress has been made on a development agreement and that's because we don't know a lot of things yet. So, we don't know what costs are going to be. We don't know the architecture plan. So, I can't do a zoning review for things yet. Um, we also don't know um
what because a lot of those fees are going to come from the engineers and they'll decide what their costs are going to be and once we get those we can kind of implement things. So, um just updating you not much progress on a development agreement has been made. So, still probably a ways out there definitely um because we'll have to
negotiate those things as well. Um but then yeah, site plans wise it's moving along and engineers are taking care of the review and um it's it's moving as as planned and yeah that's a that's kind of most of the update that I have right now. But yeah, the public parking there
are many spaces >> how many spots are we losing? >> Yeah, >> from what I can estimate right now and this is a guess because not not everything is set in stone. I believe we will be gaining spots for public parking, but that's kind of what that's
the way I view it currently right now based off how it's structured. Um, but it remains to be seen on how the rest of the site plans like shake out and what the final, you know, if they have to make adjustments to the, you know, to the site at large. So
trucks shelf truck. >> Yeah. >> It gets pretty tight sometimes. >> Right. >> Yeah. And I mean it's definitely a valid concern. I think the engineers are doing a good job of making sure there's enough
leeway there. Um so >> Yep. Yeah. Yeah. I I you know I'm still waiting to hear back from you know what their comments are going to be. They're not going to just say that these plans are good. The first the first uh draft of the site plans were on the weaker
side is what engineers kind of described it as. So they gave a lot of comments and it looks like most of them were addressed. I briefly read things over, but I obviously don't know a lot of the terminology that they use, but it looks it looks significantly better to me. Um,
so I expect that at some point we'll get kind of a full draft of of those plans and we can that can get brought um for your >> deliveries. >> Yep. I'll do that definitely.
>> It's an alley and there's that's the requirements of an alley, right? Follow that. Um it's an it's an alley access. So um their property line probably goes
right up to the alley and city of delivery trucks going down the alley. It's very awesome >> how that >> Yep. >> How do they arrange things though? If they can accommodate that makes it
easier to >> Yeah, but they don't have to. >> They don't have to. properties >> because the property lines the property line it meet the requirements that we have in the ordinance for the property
>> and they still have to adhere to you know our state codes as well. So like one example um was just like fire code wise they have to have it be a certain length with across that they have to meet from the edge of their property or edge of the building whatever you want
to call it. Um so that things can fit through in case of an emergency. Um so those things have been adjusted as well. So >> and they had by the county they had to make that one. >> Yep. The county decided that it would be
a oneway there in the alley. >> Yep. >> No further business agenda. >> Second. >> Second. >> Second meeting. In favor say I.
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