this conference will now be recorded oh I know these things would be smart say turn on oh that's what you have to do turn yes have Tom here tonight he is out of
town as you can see this is our first meeting with uh Fred Fred is a newly elected city council member and hey Fred his job is to be on of the commission Joan was so he's
the and then I'll introduce Miles when we're yeah okay so I will uh in the absence of Tom Seager who is the chair of the um Planning and Zoning commission I will call the meeting to order at
whatever time it is 5:32 um any um amendments or changes to the agenda nope all right um the minutes from the January
14th uh regular planning zoning commission meeting is attached oh sorry thank you all right uh motion to adopt the agenda as
provided and also all right motion has been made and seconded um any conversation or discussion all right all in favor say I any opposed motion carries thank you Kim all
right on to the next item on the agenda which is approval of the January 14th minutes take a look a correction I'm listed as absent but I was present okay great any other corrections to the
minutes all right hearing none I will call for a motion to approve the minutes from the January 14th meeting to approve minutes all right second second all in
favor I opposed motion carries okay next item on the agenda is uh public hearings doesn't sound like we have any right Kurt um and no old business is identified on the
agenda excellent so we will quickly get to new business and the introduction of mons yeah so the city of Z has hired a deputy City administrator and Mr miles
Rob is here today and he will be taking over the planning portion uh comes to us from Burnsville worked in shaki went to high school Apple Valley I believe in the cities uh so yeah he'll be he'll be
eventually getting emails from Miles yeah this is Miles R welcome so he sits in K office now if you're in there and can move back an office or two offices so yeah happy to have miles back or
here excellent thank you do you live in Z I do okay Lo work every day oh nice nice that's awesome yeah I still think Rosemont Irish is better
than Apple Valley Eagles but we'll [Laughter] say yeah excellent all right um so the next order of business then is um the variance application for
868 Golf View Avenue y all right so this is Seth freeze construction now if you remember Seth freeze construction came in for a variance last year uh they had that kind of side or
Corner up in the highlands in the house was kind of tilted one way to make it kind of unique and I believe they went in to setback a couple feet um he's looking to build a new house right where the cursor is on 868 GW Avenue so Seth freze construction seeking to build a
new home at 868 Golf View Avenue the plans call for a covered screened in porch to be placed in the rear yard the porch would encroach into the setback by five feet all right so those of you that remember we and you can see the plans
are on page five and the map that I'm showing you here is on page four and the plans if you see your piece of paper on page the front of the the building or Golf View Avenue will be on this side this is the golf
course all right uh the parcel abuts the golf course and has a rear yard setback of 30 feet the setback if those of you that can remember this this setback was amended September 22nd
2023 if you remember Golf View used to have setbacks of 35 ft and then we had an amendment proposed and it was changed so every house that abuts the golf course instead of having
a 35 foot setback now has a 30 foot setback if this if you're staying with me if you're if I'm going too fast let me know okay uh from 35 to 30 foot if approved the variant would go to public hearing on April 8th
2025 535 at City call the part of the house that is going into the setback is the screened in porch so the house itself will stop has plenty of room in the setback and the screened in porch if the
porch didn't have a roof on it it wouldn't be an issue but it does have a roof on it therefore that's why set thre is Seeking a variance and then I attached the variances the procedure that you can see
um since I I don't think we've had a golf course a home AB budding the golf course as for a variance yet but there hasn't been I don't think there's been a house built on the golf course since we've uh done this to AB Bunch the golf
course on that side needs so we're looking for a variance to move to public hearing so this what you amended for all the houses around there that was so I just
want to be clear the Donnie hints that was part of it so this is the same as what Donnie had yeah except it's a brand new house yeah Don was adding the screen at and his was amended to also to be a
30 foot step back to be 30 yeah so 35 to 30 because of that yep request and then at the whole golf course and that it's all open space it's going to be the commission
with okay so we need to just at this point agree or discuss whether it's going to a public hearing yeah and it it will we can discuss it will go to public hearing yep and then if you have any
issues of why this variant shouldn't go through you would bring them to the public hearing as a commission and then if people would show up because then everybody within 350 feet will get a letter Y saying this stuff um and then if you choose to approve or deny it
it'll be done at that time at the public hearing so basically we're just setting the public hearing uh for now for the date of April 8th yeah be the next meeting at 5:3 and the golf course doesn't care right they
they don't have a say they don't care is that right they'll get a letter right okay say this is a bunch ofy or whatever they think so they'll get a letter like y be aware of it so we don't have
to discuss the merits of excuse me the variance at this point correct okay all right so so the number do that say 25 there or it say 35 2 there from the edge of that porch
going to boundary will be 25 [Music] ft 5et so the variance would be requesting the five foot re revision and so when between now and public hearing if you look at the
variance procedures and if you look at procedures which is letter B under that on page two letter B if you kind of just review these for the next meeting if there's anything that pops
out that you believe and bring that the next meeting and we'll discuss so I just want to make one comment on the map I think backwards I thought that too yeah it's got to be backwards so the front is up
here this is the front you're right Brian if you look at the lot look at the lot the way that it's laid out the street curves right thear the back so I think it's actually 26 3 or something
back there that's a porch back there that's a garage the front on the other side Mr free smart Brian all right let's redo this the setback is not as bad as before
so 26 so we'll say roughly 27 feet so that means he will go into the setback by roughly three feet does that make sense to everybody now sorry about that so 26t 10 and
38 from his scre in porch to the actual lot line so instead of going in 5et he is going in roughly 3 feet one inch so on good
call I didn't look at it quick enough makes a lot smaller okay so yeah that's what it is 27 okay any other conversation on that okay um looking for a motion to
move this to a public hearing on April 8th at 5:35 I move to set a public hearing on April I'm sorry what was the day 8 8th at 5:30 by correct
uh anyone for a I'll second that all right uh further discussion all right um all in favor I I opposed motion
carries okay next item on the agenda is another variance application for 1025 Main Street yeah so Mr AR Olson lives at 1025 Main Street Mr ol is here today seeking a variance to build a new garage on his
parcel so you can see his land his his house is at the corner of tenth and Maine his front yard the front of his home is on Main Street and so the side street will be 10th officially this home was built I looked it up 1930 and I believe the shed
was added in 1930 as well so it's really big with Herbert Hoover back then um the garage will be in the same spot as the current garage so the one he's going to build a 32x 24
garage but the side and rear setbacks on his current garage will be the same he's just going to build it out further does that make sense to everybody is that correct so his build will go where the old shed
was it's going to be larger but it's not going to go near 10th Street any closer and it's not going to go near the alley any closer so what he needs is a variance to allow him to build that garage okay
so uh let's see the new garage will be in the same spot as the current garage side and rear yard setbacks will be the same the current garage is roughly 15 feet by 20 feet long the new garage will be 32 feet long by 24 feet wide the
setbacks for the parcel Corner line is going to be 12 feet so if you look on page seven is kind of an artist rendition of his drawing of what he wants to do so the current the house right now
excuse me this the uh setback will be four feet from the side street or excuse me from the side property line where it is now so this is roughly four feet and this is roughly 3 feet
[Music] he's seeking a variance because he's in an R2 a residential two and that says the setbacks are a little bit more the current setbacks for a side or ex me a corner lot on the side
is going to be 12 feet and the back is not bad is only about five because it's a separated uh accessory building it's not attached to the home so the biggest part of this uh variance
will be the side yard back still needs a variance but it's only about a foot so he's not going to build any further south I would think that would be the long way it'll be both I think it'll come out here a little bit like
this will kind of look like the garage the new garage but it says it's going to be longer than wide this is what it says the new garage will be 32 feet long and 24t wide correct so
the new garage 24t wide so the current garage is roughly what what do we say 20 feet yeah it's not much more on the width but it's the length yeah it's the L so the big length that it's going to go 32 from here up about 32 feet so for
him to go this way he doesn't need a variance for that in any ways because he wants to build to the West yes yes yeah yeah so it doesn't want to go closer North or east it's going to go to the West
[Music] roughly to the West roughly I don't know about 17 feet because it'll be a much bigger garage than what's there now it'll be closer to his house instead of closer to the neighbor's property to the South
that's correct it won't be any closer to the road or to the alley it'll be closer to his own home it does fit this um even with this new garage and his home it does fit the percentages it fits the yard so it's not too big for the yard so
if you can imagine new garage going like this where my pit is that's kind of what it'll look like that's what that's kind of a strange have you seen the lot have you been up there yeah yep the South part of that lot
is what's it got Timbers and Landscaping and stuff and it yeah well and then behind coming this way he can't move it back any further because there's a cast line right right
and he when he comes back it'll be 2 ft away from the gas line then 2 ft away from where gas line oh coming coming really what you got is an existing
garage that's already where it is just wants to make a bigger garage not make it any closer to any lot he's just going to take up more of his own yard correct yeah so yeah that's going to be about it and there is a provision under accessory
structures that I was just reading it talks about front yard set back theoretically that's to the road and it basically says that it should be within the easement or any utility did it would again Brian no
under under accessor there's a provision that says side yard not less than 5 ft or interior an but then says front yard setback
shall not be within a utility eement I think what it says so if you consider the front of the garage the front yard of the garage again it's all semantics and how you interpret but but that's just further that it's going to be right
where it is it's just be bigger in his own right and I presume that in 1930 when the shed was built the setbacks weren't established that's corre right you weren't there it was
built actually it wouldn't qualify for a garage right now it was built for modeler I can't use it as a it's just a sh sh I know ever parked car I haven't parked car first time I ever tried I couldn't get out of the
door so picture Okay close to an idea that's still yeah that's better yeah idea I'm only getting four I'm only going four feet further south than the old GR
6 and2 ft from the old garage is the gas line and I've talked to them and they really don't want me to get any closer so the new garage be roughly 768 square feet that's 900 give an idea all the cars will my cars will back
out to West or to 10 Street street so you'll enter the garage from 10th Street then yeah what are you going to do with that big garage just for cars I got two cars okay
okay okay great so at this time we have to set um a public hearing for this variance as well correct place on April 8th 2025 at 5:40
p.m. if you choose to all right any I move to discussion said a a public hearing for April 8th at 5:40 to discuss the variance for second anyone want a second the
motion thanks all right motion has been made and seconded to establish the public hearing on April 8th uh 2025 at 5:40 p.m. to discuss the variance at
1025 Main Street um any further discussion hearing none uh all in favor say I I all opposed motion carries all right step Mike FL is C
attorney everybody I didn't introduce myself but got right into the business but I'm the new City attorney if anybody has questions about planning issues you can feel free to email me Brian has my email Kurt has
my email um and I'll answer your questions so and this is a kind of a new process for me how they do the variances I was reading through your code today on it um but it's very organized so that's good it's uh have a meeting to set a
public hearing have a public hearing send it to council good it's good does anybody have any questions about either of these these ones I don't think I do and I'm going to generally appear
remotely like this I know the old attorney appeared in person but um I just have a lot of meeting Brian I'll tell you I have a lot of meetings to go to so just I represent a lot of cities so it's saves me a lot of time to do it this way so I I prefer this but I'm
happy to come if if there's a contentious issue or whatever of course I would come wanted me to come right it's nice to meet you nice to meet you all thank you thank you well thanks for coming to our meeting yeah
all right any other items bring forward nothing else on the agenda all right then I'll just need a motion for adjournment I motion to adjourn the meeting Connie second Mike anyone for a
second all right Fred all in favor e e e e e e e e
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