This conference will now be recorded as much as I wanted up the steps on the deck. >> Well, shoot. Then I might as well call them. I thought that'd be it. Really talk to >> I need somebody for shoveling my driveway. I mean plowing my driveway we were just talking about.
>> You can talk to Fred. He can get online. >> That'd be great. >> Whatever. >> I'm sorry. >> I get you his phone number or whatever. >> I can give you my phone number. >> You can give me my phone number. We can exchange. >> I talked to
I haven't >> That's good. You stay out of it. >> Yeah. Well, for two reasons. I don't like the cold and they don't call me because I'll slow them up. >> There you go. >> I haven't had a little struggle. >> And I don't like the cold. So, yeah, summer is much better.
>> Well, I've had three different people over the last four years and they quit doing it after a year. And it wasn't anything I did, but you know, like Cody Cody Johnson, you know him? Yeah. He I'm going to do full-time, you know, repairing engines and stuff, so I'm not going to do it anymore. Said, "Okay, you
know, anybody else?" So, progressed to now I don't have anybody again. >> So, I don't care. I just need to I need to know it's going to be done and not worry about it. Yeah. If you've got over two inches, these guys don't have to do
you want to come with just an inch or two or inch or whatever. >> Yeah, >> just call them and tell them. >> That's what I should have done less. >> All right, looks like it's 5:30 here. So, we'll call the meeting to order. First item is to adopt or amend the
agenda and just a note or >> no changes. motion to regard it. >> I make a motion to adopt adopt the agenda. >> It's been moved and second that we adopt the agenda as printed. All those in
favor say I. >> I. Say nay. >> Motion carries. 500. Okay. minutes from last meeting on the back agenda. What's your wishes? >> I move to um approve their minutes as
presented. Okay, it's >> been moved and second that we approve the minutes as printed. All those in favor say I. >> I say nay. Motion carries. Just a notation part about the continued interest that the interests that we're supposed to be letting city hall know in
writing. We want to continue to serve. >> I forgot about it too. >> Take the words out of my mouth. But yeah. Yeah. At some point it doesn't, you know, it's not you don't need to do it immediately, but at some point before the first of the year would be preferable so I can have it on the
council agenda. So >> do they want us after this long? Has there has there been any >> Do we do it by email? >> Yeah, of course. Any just form of writing documentation, email, on paper, letter, or there's the application on the website, too. It doesn't bother me.
It'll just be a reappoint. So, this is pretty simple. So, >> does everybody do it? We're still down two members. So, >> yep. We've had no interest that I'm aware of. And we're for our ordinance at the minimum amount anyway. So, I hope none of you leave right now. Um, but
>> that's good to hear. I've been wondering as long as I've been on I I think I don't know when I got on if it was in ' 07 or ' 06 or whenever it was if they would rather have somebody new. >> Right now they're born bodies, I think. But >> yeah, we kind of just need bodies at this point. >> He's not a park board and they got on
here. >> Code committee kind of gets to have their choice to be honest with you. They've had a lot of interest on from people, but we have not. Basically, every board has had gotten someone since we've since we've started kind of recruiting, but except for planning commission. So,
okay. >> So, we have to send them a letter >> or an email or whatever. Yes. >> Okay. >> All righty. Item number four, public comments. Being none, we will move right on to item number five. >> I also just to add on public comments, I
got a public comment about our public hearing. They want to remain anonymous unfortunately, but they were against it. Um because they're >> which public Yeah. for the subdivision. Um
yeah, I to be honest with you as a professional opinion, I think it was a petty comment, but I just wanted it noted that there was a public comment. >> Well, we'll talk about that here now. Item five now. Okay. So, yep. >> Well, public hearing was for the purpose of
reszoning. No. Or >> they're splitting their lot. >> Yeah. Splitting the lot and reddrawing the boundary line for two lots on Second Street. >> Yep. You should have a picture there. It's that's a approximate estimate of um where the lines are going to go. There's
a survey in there as well in the packet. Um after my memos, I believe that you can see the exact line of where they're going to draw it, but I tried to draw best on the map as well as I could. Um, but Jared Post is seeking to move his lot line into his neighboring property,
which he also owns, um, by 35 feet. So, he owns both these properties. Um, and he's doing it because he wants to keep his garden and he wants to sell the other lot. Um, so he wants to keep it so that it's on his property and then he sells the other one. Uh, there's no zoning problems with it, no setback
issues. It's completely fine regulation wise. Um, it's just kind of weird because obviously lot lines are annoying to deal with anyway. So, we just figured that we would send him through the subdivision process as it is and then he goes to the county and gets those lots
split um easily. So, um it's kind of just more of a preference thing, but um yeah, that's what I >> and the comment that you received, was there any reason for it or just saying they're against it? >> They they said they were against it. They they felt as though that he doesn't
a lot of it in my opinion is pretty petty because there are personal qualms that he Jared Post told me about himself before the process began. He doesn't have a good relationship with this person and this person found out about the public hearing and spoke out against
it for personal reasons rather than actual legitimate. >> There's no technical reasons. >> No, she was worried that it was going to be going into her property, but it's not. That wouldn't be legal. Um, and so I explain that to her, but she's still against it. Mine more personal issues
than anything. Um, but personally, I mean, I have no issues either way with it, of course. But >> comment a comment. >> Yep. >> It was only the one. >> It was only the one. >> So, >> Yep. And he did that. Yep.
>> Yep. And he did that already. And I have that survey in there. And then I mean, the county is just going to split the lots or whatever. Since there's no other info, we'll close the public hearing and leave it open for discussion of the commission here. Any other questions or comments on it?
>> I have no questions about it. >> Prefer to make a motion. >> I can make a motion to um approve the request for I'm just making sure it's
right. lot of a subdivision. Is that right, L? >> Yeah. Yeah. Minor subdivision. >> Minor subdivision change for the property at 454 West Second Street.
>> Seconded that we recommend approval of the uh proposed subdivision. Is there any other discussion? Not all those in favor say I. >> I. Post say nay. Motion carries. 502. >> Okay. Old business, the fee schedule.
>> Uh, yes. So, last month I brought it to your attention that we need to look at our fees uh going into next year if we want to make any changes just for thinking on at that time. But now we're going to need to decide uh if we want to make changes, what those changes should
be and um and anything else as well. Um, so I can bring it to city council to discuss. >> Red ones on here. That was your your proposed changes or suggested changes. >> Yep. As a staff member, I'm um I'm seeking to adopt and the number the
building permit ones that you have in here about building fees are from Safe Built, our providers for building inspections, and they gave me the their estimate. Um, and I'm proposing that we stick with them because it's a they're trying to get up to the uniform building code. Um, this is the same exact numbers
that Pine Islands received as well as Lake City. Um, and so I I'm just proposing we stick with it since it's normal for our area. And we'd still even though despite we see an increase, we're still significantly lower than other cities in our area. And I provided my
own assessment in there as well. Um, and I think it's just good because we need to get up to where we need to be. Um, and it's always good, you know, we increase revenue this way that we sell a lot of, um, that eases the burden on taxpayers as well. Um, and I think
that's important as well. So, um, that's just my proposal at least for building these, but it seems to make sense and it it helps to cover the cost of implementing the, uh, the, uh, different permits, too.
>> Yes. make it cheaper. >> And our biggest hitters are always going to be developers anyway. And you know, they're used to it. And bigger cities charge significantly more anyway for these. >> A lot of work, too. So, >> yeah.
>> And these are more in line with what other cities are charging them. >> Yep. This is the ex actually the same exact numbers that Pine Island is getting as well. and they pine now typically charges more for a lot of their services as well too. So I was actually surprised to see that. But um but all the safe build providers that
I've heard of um in our county they all the cities that use safe built have gotten the same numbers because they want to they want everything to be standardized going towards the a specific price point that they have in mind but they want to build over a couple years to get there.
And the other thing I want to mention too is that we'll um if you had a chance to look too that there's some development fees in there as well. And my my colorful assessment that I gave you, there's a whole category of those that we have. So that's our variances,
minor subdivisions, conditional use permits, reszones. Um and if we want to make any changes to that, it's up to you. Um I have no preference out of the way. on my chart there, the red are
numbers that we are behind. Um, the green means we are above them. Um, and so we're behind a lot of the cities when it comes to these development fees. But I also don't think there's really a pressure either way to do one or the other because they're kind of sparse
when we get them. Um, and so it's not I wouldn't say a need for us to increase them, but if we wanted to stay where they are, that's fine with me. I think with all the other my I guess my opinion is with all the other increases that are going on property taxes if we can show at least some of the things that we don't need to raise we can stay static
that's probably not a bad idea she's going to disagree with me >> I'm thinking about one one or two things that I had note that I that I as a staff member would like to see whether or not we want to do them is on the preliminary flat fee. Um
some cities like to have an escrow fee that goes with the application. So that means they would pay the application fee $500 as is, but they would also put up an escro fee of a couple grand because that's typically for a large subdivision
to come in. So that's usually when a lot of houses come in at one time or there's an actual development happening and then we hold that money in escrow until they go through the process and then they get that money back or they can use it to pay things out of whatever fees they
need to pay. So building permit fees and whatnot. So we still get the money but they put up almost a security deposit on the development. >> Is that a problem you think or >> No, it's not a problem. I you need one. We don't I we don't need one, but um you know there's some cities that do it. I I
just like it as more you know we get big developments that come in. It's just nice to have that kind of security where you know the city can guarantee that income um and and you know they get the money back but they still have to pay the building permit and they just pay it
out of the escro fee. Um again whether or not we do it up to you. Um, if we do it, my proposal is $1,000, which is nothing basically at all. Um, that would be for a single house. That's half of a
building permit for for a house permit. Um, so it's really not a ton in my opinion. >> So that would be the purpose of what? >> It would just be like a security deposit for us. So if they don't go through the process, then we have the money. But if they do go through the process, they get
that money back, but they still have other things to pay for. So, it's pretty much it. I mean, there's really no point to have it, but there's also, you know, a benefit to the city um to do so as well. Some of the other cities have large amounts like Byron has a $20,000
escro fee. >> I guess I'm just not quite sure if they do the preliminary plan, they still have to pay the fee for the preliminary plan. If that doesn't go any further, why would we need a security deposit? If they go further, they're going to have to pay fees anyway, right?
>> That's true. Yep. >> I mean, it really doesn't matter out of the way, I guess, but it was more just a thought. So, >> yeah, I get it, but I not quite sure the purpose. And one I would also like to add pending approval is so if someone violates our
zoning ordinance, there's not really a set fee for doing so. Um I'd like to add a set fee of a violation of an ordinance. We had like two this year that since I've been here. Um, so again,
it's sparse, but the problem is if someone violates the ordinance, I don't want to be in a situation where I don't know how to enact a penalty on that >> enforcement. >> Right. So, I kind of have to like guess at that. And technically, our ordinance says I have the authority of a police
officer to >> has that come force before the code committee at all that that topic or >> No, I haven't brought it to them, but since I'm the zoning administrator, I thought I'd bring it to play zoning. Um considering it would be a zoning. >> That makes sense. >> Oh yeah.
>> Uh someone that uh uh they built without a permit basically. Um after I told them no. Um and most of the time I And in those scenarios it was like
they knew and I just told them don't do that. I gave them a stop work order and they stopped. So it really went nowhere. But just in case in the future, like for example, we're writing an animal ordinance right now. In the case where
someone um illegally creates a kennel, that's a zoning problem technically according to our ordinance. Now, how do I enforce that? If there's nothing in the animals that gives a a slight penalty, I need something since it's part of the zoning code that says here
is the fee for that violation. Um, and it just would help me just have more of a enforcement mechanism when it cames to those comes to those things those things. Again, it doesn't happen. It only happened once or twice this year, but it's just on an off chance that like
what if a developer doesn't follow a protocol? So, what form would it take? Like $500 a day until it's fixed or something like that or >> dude, I was thinking like $75. It would be in line with our other >> so much per day until the the violation is addressed. >> It would just be one time and then
because everything's a complaint based and so it would be we got a complaint, I issue the fee $75, but if it comes up again, well, it could be the same thing, but eventually it could be a state citation. >> Um, and so it's a police issue, too. But
um but I just think having some sort of mechanism for me to do it would be helpful in my opinion. >> Just >> Well, you know, we do. The problem is I have discretion over it. >> Yes. >> You could you could give one person $200
and the other person $50 based on >> Right. And a violation and it not that you would, but >> because there isn't a set amount, it's at his discretion. And so that puts him in a bad spot. >> So it seems three questions before the
fee schedule. I guess one is the uh the fees that were outlined on the first three pages here. And we also have the uh the permit fees are on the red colored coded page. And then the question of a a violation fee.
Um I guess the topics we have to look at here. You told that person to stop. They stopped them. >> Yeah, I had some help from say build. Our inspectors are obviously are kind of our ground work of enforcement
mechanisms. Um so they kind of are able to handle it easier. Um but yeah, and they these people were not English speaking as well. So that was a barrier too. But you know when we got to understanding they understood and they
stopped you know but it's just on those scenarios where what happens if big homes you know violates our preliminary plat process how do I enforce that and a lot of that comes down the attorney will do that too and they can handle it as
well but you know this is just like $75 is the same as our administrative fee so if there's ever a fine that's not stated it's $75. $5. So, I just figured it would be nice to just stay in line with that. Well, actually, there's four things,
right? There's the building permits, there's the development fees, >> there's the escrow, which kind of falls under the development fees, and then the um fee for this violation, right?
>> Yep. >> Okay. >> Keep moving along. This the first four pages, the building code permit fees. Do you have any thoughts on those four pages of changes or how we could deal or
are you satisfied with those? That's where the uh the contractor is trying to get us in line with everybody else. >> I don't have these are very inexpensive based on my experience >> relatively speaking. Okay. So then we
move on to the colorcoded page. Um what's anyone's thoughts on those? Did you have any particular ones, Kim, that you thought should be addressed or
>> Well, like the pre fee. Oh, it's just I mean Pine Island is quite a bit more than us, but cannibals like cities less. That one seems like it could go up
slightly. The pre-plat and the final plat. Would you have a suggestion for an amount? >> I'd say like 750 or Yeah. >> We wouldn't be out of line to kind of follow the other cities that have that.
>> So, if we went to 750, we'd be moving up more toward the middle of the pack, it looks like. So if we pencil that in for this purpose the other ones you think were reasonable and like you said there else they're not
we have some but not of that not a lot of applications for all of these >> right this isn't a money maker for us No, no, no. >> It's just more staff time and >> Yeah. Yeah. So, >> and part of it too is >> um also, you know, like we have to send
out public notices, so we pay for postage. Um we pay thousands of dollars a year in postage. Um and same goes for um you know, after afterwards we're all done, I still have to go to the county and pay the county to even record it
>> on that property. Sure. >> I mean, as far as what we what comes before us fre more frequently than anything else is a variance, >> right? >> And so if that one so I don't know, I can't do math super fast in my head, but
um like the average across the board there looks like it's close to >> it's close to 350 >> 400. >> There's 250 in there. >> Yeah. And it can also be a tool of discouraging these things as well,
right? Because I've had pe I've had some people not apply for a variance because they don't want to pay $400 on a chance to get the variance. >> I don't want I'd hate to discourage somebody if they got a reasonable request. >> But if it's if it's someone that knows
that this is what they want and this is something that needs to happen, well, they're going to do it anyway, you know. Um, >> 350 is, you know, lot. We've had a lot of minor things too that, you know, there's a process of notifications and all, but you know, like I say, I hate to
discourage somebody that's got a reasonable request, too. >> They're colored wrong. >> So, the average is $367, not including Zambroa. So, Pine Island all the rest of them. if you take what
the variances are across there. So, um yeah, maybe that one's it's back with the pre-plat the final PL the escrow. >> Do we want to move into that situation too with the escrow or
>> did I understand that you said they would not get their money back then? >> No, they would. >> Maybe they will. Yeah, but a lot of it so like Kim has talked about or Kim, our finance director has talked about um we we had done it for like Keller Barton has an escro account with us and so when
they put up the first building um they gave us money for escrow and they pay a lot of their fees to the city out of that account. >> So like a lot of times they just end up keeping it with us and then they'll pay the billing permits, they'll pay the water bills, whatever else out of those accounts so that they don't have to
think about it really. Do you pay the bill then out of the escrow in favor of them or do they can they write it themselves and write it off? >> Uh >> how does the money get to the water bill or whatever? >> Well, we Yeah, we hold the money in
account, but we just transfer it, I think. I don't know how it works, but um but Kim holds all of it. And >> yeah, because normally with escrow, the escro people will write the check, >> right, >> to make sure it goes where it's supposed to go. >> Doing the escrow here. an account that holds their money. And so it's just a
little bit easier than like they someone might take a long time to pay. Right. >> Right. Might that they've been given a bill, it's going to be 60 or 90 days down the road for them to pay. If that's prepaid, it's in the it's in the city's
account. It moves to pay whatever that is. If it's a building, well, a plat >> I mean. Yeah. Right. Right. And that's probably why some of these cities might have it is so then it's it's essentially prepaying for your services. And if you
don't get the services, you get the money back, but the city has the dollars >> in the account from the get-go instead of having to fill it down the line. >> Right. >> That I I don't >> Yeah. I just fig I don't want to be a
reasonable jump and you know we still want >> it's not it's not going to hinder development >> that would just be for pre-plat item that would be tied to that. >> Yeah. I just wanted to do it for pre pre-plat because pre-plat and final plat our engineer likes to do them at the same time basically because it doesn't
change really from his perspective. So he I was just like why we why would we do it twice if they're doing at the same >> as you'd ask for the escrow at the time of the pre-plant application. Yeah. That seems reasonable to me. The >> schedule in $1,000
>> and leave the fee at 500. I think that seems reasonable. >> The pre-plat fee >> instead of going to 750. >> Yeah. >> Don't you >> What did you recommend? >> Instead of raising two fees to 750, just
add the escrow to the existing. I see. We have consensus on that then. >> I think that's okay. >> If it ends up being a problem too, we can always go back and remove the escrow and jump the price. So if it ends up not working out, if we're like, I know this isn't really helping or anything, then
maybe we can just do that too. >> Question is a fee for a zoning violation. >> Variable thing though depending on the severity of the violation. I'm not sure how you do that. >> It does. I mean, you know, it does matter, but I mean, you look at the
police fines that they have right now, they're basically nothing in my opinion, and they haven't been changed for years. Um, >> so I mean, I was just saying like an administrative penalty, it's more of a slap on the wrist anyway, but like what
can I even do if I had all the authority in the world against them anyway? Because we act on complaints and those don't come in very often. Um, and so it's more of this a safeguard for me because I can still use our city attorney to hit where it counts on
things. >> Yeah. But, you know, on these things where it's if they're not obeying the ordinance and I've told them because I will not, you know, slap a fine on someone off the get-go. It'll be, "Hey, by the way, you
violated this ordinance. Can you fix it?" or I'll send you a letter and then after repeated amounts then it just gives me something where I can actually say I can do something and if they still don't respond to that we can progress from there. So >> like Mr. Schuman and his sheds would
>> when do they have to be removed >> last year? End of 26 >> of this year. >> End of next year. >> Next year September >> end of >> end of September. >> Oh okay. >> Okay. It's changed a couple times. >> I think we need a violation.
>> Yeah. >> If we start >> I can't do that. They went through a lawsuit. So >> yeah, that's a different one. But if we start with the 75 at the discretion of the zone administrator, I think that's a reasonable number.
>> Y that in >> 75. Most of our police fines are like 30 bucks. So, I mean, this is double that. So, I just kind of figure this a couple hours of your time. >> Yeah. I mean, because if I have to write
a letter to them, it's going to take me like 30 minutes, you know? So, it's like that's and then pay for postage or whatnot. I think it equates out and gives us a little bit of bang for our buck, too. >> Different areas that we need to discuss
here. Is there any other thoughts on the schedule? >> Do you want me to make the motion? >> Do I have to describe them all? >> No, you can just say as adopted. Just I move that we adjust the building
permit um fee schedule um and the escro amount and the violation payment as discussed. >> Seconded here during the meeting all those in
favor say I. I post say nay. Motion carries 500. Okay, what we got next? New business staff report on sale of land then. >> Yes. So this is for Keller Bartman properties. Um
so they're Bridge View Apartments building and I think I was mixed up in the packet. So they're the next two are in tandem basically anyway, but it's at the very back is my staff report. Um but so uh Hillman Properties building
here very shortly. Um and so I mean we were aware of this but this is just coming up now just because this is where we are in the process. Um but we own the city owns a chunk of land on this old
bank parcel um that we need to sell to them. And so, um, I provided per our zoning ordinance a staff report on what that sale would look like, um, and provide and it has to be based legally
off our comprehensive plan, how it would fit. And so, the developer has agreed to a market price for this land at $3,600. And this price is recommended by our city engineer as is based on an estimate
of a dollar a square foot. Um, this lot where it is right now is not buildable where it is. And their building plans for the building wouldn't go on the entire property. It would be basically the edge of the building and the I guess
it would be the western portion of that lot on the picture there. Um, but it's not buildable and a portion of it is an easement for the culvert, right? Um and so really it does nothing for the city as it is. Um we got the land for free
and so we'd be getting fair market price for it which I think is a huge win honestly because >> city got the land for free. What was that? >> We got it in we got it was I don't know when it was dispersed to us but I think it was maybe in 2022 from the bank
>> and they just donated it to us. Um, I don't know what that process was, but that's what happened. I guess according to Good Hugh County. Um, and so as far as tenants go with our comprehensive plan, it fits our housing initiatives because the land will be used for new
apartment building, fitting into goal one of mixing our housing types as well as providing more options through our zoning districts. It will also achieve objective two, which is provide workforce housing for us, um, which is our requirement under our comprehensive plan. Um, it'll also be used to attract
career professionals as well as an increase for available housing for residents of an advanced age, achieving our initiative number two in our comprehensive plan and work with the developer to provide workforce housing, achieving initiative 4A. As far as land
use, it fits in because it allows the developer to redevelop this lot, which is not buildable and the city can't do anything with for housing purposes. um >> that fits under tenant or under goal three of our land use.
>> Uh the sale creates mixuse zoning for our downtown area which is what our comprehensive plan outlined is we wanted to mix our zoning district so it wasn't all commercial. Um and it also achieves having efficient and cost-effective use of land because we're receiving fair
market value and we were given the land for free. So the city gets all the benefit for this land that we can do nothing with. We can't put anything there. We can't who would buy it. Um and right now we pay taxes on it and it's
not doing anything. So >> I think we're probably sold on the idea, but we have to go through the do we have to go through a public hearing on that? >> We do not >> topic. Okay. >> So we are good to vote on it tonight and it'll go to city council. >> What are we moving on? uh if we're
selling some of the land and then it goes to the city council >> if they can buy that little green parcel >> but if they you know this whole thing >> I do but I should also point out that this vote is specifically for the
comprehensive plan if we decide to vote no we're setting a precedent to other developers other land that we want to sell and saying that we will go against our comprehensive plan even if it works because from a staff perspective having no opinion on the project as a whole
we're getting money for this thing >> that we can't do nothing with and I think that's a huge win but I know how you all feel of course but that's just my thought process on it >> but this all fits in with the comprehensive plan
>> yes it does it's increasing >> obviously you can interpret it which way every want whichever way you want you could say it doesn't fit with the comprehensive a plan for X, Y, and Z reasons, but those need to be provided as well. Um, but from my perspective, I wasn't able to find anything that goes
explicitly against it because of what the land would be used for and our committees were the one that came up with a comprehensive plan. >> You get got maybe get ahead, but you talked about having to reszone that area too then. Is that presently zone commercial? >> Yes. >> And we'd have to reszone it to the mixed
use. >> Yeah. POD to go along with it. >> Okay. I'll go ahead and make the motion that we recommend a city council the sale of this property to the developer. >> Is there been moved and seconded that we
recommend approval of this sale for the reasons noted in the description that it fits into the comprehensive plan. >> All those in favor say I. I. >> Post say nay. Hi. >> 5 410. It passes.
Okay. Now, instead of public hearing for the reszoning. >> Yep. Guess we'll move that for 5:35. What's the date of the next meeting? >> It's uh January 13th, I want to say. Okay,
let me check. move that we uh schedule a public hearing for that date and time. Is there a second? >> Okay. Verify the date. >> January 13th. >> Okay. All those in favor of scheduling public hearing say I.
>> Post say nay. Motion carries 500. >> Okay. And the final topic on the agenda is the election of officers for next year. >> Yes. So 2026, we need to elect a new chairperson and vice chairperson for our ordinance. So um I just leave it open to
you guys to nominate someone or people to fill these positions and vote on it. Um I'm doing it usually we do it in January, but I'm doing it in December so it takes effect in January. >> I vote for Tom as chair. >> I vote for Tom also.
you want to do it and uh along with it I would vote for Kim to be vice chair. >> That's where I'm at. >> I can take it for us uh reelect the existing officers to new offices for next year.
>> There a second. >> I'll second. >> Those in favor say I. >> I post say nay. I 00. Okay. We can't miss meetings this winter because I'll be in Florida for a couple months.
>> Coordinate our travel schedules. >> Pretty sure. >> Okay. >> March and April. I may or may not March. I won't be April maybe. >> Where are we at with Mr. Johnson and the and the um property on the corner that
he wants to use for storage. >> I have heard nothing >> um from him and I and yeah, I've heard nothing. >> We'll leave it at that. >> We'll leave it at that. And >> not going to initiate it, but then we're not going to worry about the first.
>> Yeah. >> Right. And that's the way I feel about it. I'm treating him like an adult. He He was here. He knows. And so treating him the same so as I would someone else. So when he's ready, he can bring it in. Or if not, whatever. I mean, it's still
kind of iffy on the zoning code anyway. So I don't know if I can write him a violation, but um I'll cross that bridge when we get there, I guess. But >> yeah, I mean I don't know. >> I think there was people looking for something when he came in,
>> right? those people. >> Yeah. And he's been busy with uh his other lot that he's actually putting the storage in out in the industrial park. And so we're kind of busier on that end. So I don't even know if he's even looking at the u what I'm answering
right now. So >> any other questions for bios or >> uh only other thing I'm going to add for the future and I clarified this with our attorney. Uh, so one issue that at least personally I've had is that it can kind of be tedious when we set public
hearings where we have to have a meeting where we set the public hearing and then have wait another month for the public hearing. >> Um, we do not need to do that. >> Oh, I can set the public hearings myself at our next meeting and then we can just hold them as long as I'm within my
public notice timeline, which I usually am because you know the times time frame is a month. So, um, and our attorney said that's totally perfectly okay. So, in future, if it's okay, instead of waiting to set the public hearing, I can set it
for the next meeting and then we can hold it and then we don't have to worry about waiting a whole another month to even review it. >> That makes more sense. >> I see a problem with that. >> No, I think that would be good. >> So, as long as you're okay with that, I am more than happy to do that because makes me Yeah. Yeah. And then sometimes
I might even forget and then I get on the crunch time with the public notices and I don't want to do that. But if someone applies then I can just say, "Hey, it'll be at this time." And then I'll send out the notices and then we can just have our meeting and we're good to go. Send it right to council. So
anything else? That's it for me. Okay. Motion to adjurnn. Second. All those in favor say I. I. >> Say nay. Motion carries 400. Thanks for taking the chairman. >> Oh yeah.